Reposted from Judith Curry’s Climate Etc
by Judith Curry
Politics versus science in attributing extreme weather events to manmade global warming.
If you follow me on twitter, you may have noticed that I was scheduled to testify before the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Jun 12 [link]. The subject of the Hearing is Contending with Natural Disasters in the Wake of Climate Change.
Late on Jun 10, I received an email telling me that the Hearing is postponed (as yet unscheduled). Apparently the Committee finds it more urgent to have a Hearing related to holding the Attorney General and Secretary of Commerce in contempt of Congress [link]. Interesting to ponder that Congressional procedural issues are deemed to be more important than Climate Change.
So I spent all last week working on my testimony (which is why there have been no new blog posts). I hope the Hearing will eventually happen (Michael Mann is also scheduled to testify).
Hurricanes and climate change constitute a major portion of my testimony. You may recall my recent series on Hurricanes & climate change [link]. Specifically with regards to detection and attribution, my bottom line conclusion was:
“In summary, the trend signal in hurricane activity has not yet had time to rise above the background variability of natural processes. Manmade climate change may have caused changes in hurricane activity that are not yet detectable due to the small magnitude of these changes compared to estimated natural variability, or due to observational limitations. But at this point, there is no convincing evidence that manmade global warming has caused a change in hurricane activity.”
I’m sure many would dismiss this conclusion as ‘denial’, in spite of the extensive documentation and logic of my arguments. Lets dig into:
- the latest from the hurricane researchers
- ‘storylines’ from non-hurricane researchers
- why blaming extreme events on AGW is important in ‘winning’ the public debate
- what happens when scientists get in the way of AGW activist ‘scare stories’ about extreme events
- ‘scaring the children’ strategies
New review paper – Knutson et al.
Earlier this week I spotted an in press review article entitled Tropical Cyclones and Climate Change Assessment: Part I. Detection and Attribution [link].
There are 10 coauthors on the paper:
“The authors of this report include some former members of the expert team for the WMO 2010 assessment (Knutson et al. 2010) along with current membership of a WMO Task Team on Tropical Cyclones and Climate Change. The Task Team members were invited to become members by the WMO World Weather Research Program’s Working Group on Tropical Meteorology Research.”
Excerpts from the Summary:
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“In this assessment, we have focused on the question: Can an anthropogenic influence on TC activity be detected in past data? We explore this question from two perspectives: avoiding/reducing either Type I or Type II errors, since we presume that different audiences will have different preferences on which type of error should be avoided to a greater extent.
Using the conventional perspective of avoiding Type I error, the strongest case for a detectable change in TC activity is the observed poleward migration of the latitude of maximum intensity in the northwest Pacific basin, with eight of 11 authors rating the observed change as low-to-medium confidence for detection (with one other author having medium and two other authors having medium-to-high confidence). A slight majority of authors (six of 11) had only low confidence that anthropogenic forcing had contributed to the poleward shift. The majority of the author team also had only low confidence that any other observed TC changes represented either detectable changes or attributable anthropogenic changes.
Regarding storm surge, our expectation is that a widespread worsening of total inundation levels during storms is occurring due to the global mean sea level rise associated with anthropogenic warming, assuming all other factors equal, although we note that no TC climate change signal has been convincingly detected in sea level extremes data. To date, there is not convincing evidence of a detectable anthropogenic influence on hurricane precipitation rates, in contrast to the case for extreme precipitation in general, where some anthropogenic influence has been detected.
The relatively low confidence in TC change detection results from several factors, including: observational limitations, the smallness of the expected human-caused change (signal) relative to the expected natural variability (noise), or the lack of confident estimates of the expected signal and noise levels.”
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JC comments: This paper illustrates an approach that is very unusual in the annals of climate change assessments. The sea level rise community is also using expert elicitation (e.g. Bamber et al.). Expert elicitation and and expert structured judgment is much preferred over ‘consensus seeking’. The Knutson et al. paper is distinguished by clearly explaining the evidence and and arguments that the individual scientists are considering, and in the Supplementary Information also showing individual responses.
Experts disagree on most aspects of climate change. Why do they disagree? I have covered this extensively before, the main reasons are summarized as:
- Insufficient & inadequate observational evidence
- Disagreement about the value of different classes of evidence (e.g. paleoclimate reconstructions, models)
- Disagreement about the appropriate logical framework for linking and assessing the evidence
- Assessments of areas of ambiguity & ignorance
- Belief polarization as a result of politicization of the science
The specific reasons for disagreement on a given issue need to be clarified, which the Knutson paper does. Distinguishing between Type I and II errors is also useful, which clearly identifies the speculative issues as scientifically informed speculation.
ATTP
ATTP has a joint blog post with philosopher Eric Winsberg entitled Extreme weather event attribution.
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Eric has just published, together with Naomi Oreskes and Elisabeth Lloyd, a paper called Severe Weather Event Attribution: Why values won’t go away. The paper discusses the issue of how one might assess the anthropogenic influence on an extreme weather event. This post describes what was presented in the paper and tries to justify why there may be value in approaching this issue from more than one perspective.
A complementary approach is to consider a storyline. For example, given that an event has occured, how might climate change have influenced this event? If the air was warmer, then we may expect enhanced precipitation. If sea surface temperatures are high, then we may expect a tropical cyclone to be more intense. The focus here tends to be on the thermodynamics (i.e., the energy) and to take the dynamics as given (i.e., the event happened).
It turns out, though, that the story-line approach has been rather controversial, with many who favour more formal detection and attribution being highly critical. They argue that it could lead to more false positives and that taking the dynamics as given ignores that dynamical factors could actually work to make some events less likely. Essentially, they argue that the storyline approach may over-estimate anthropogenic influences, potentially mistaking natural variability as being anthropogenic.
The problem, though, is that although the two approaches are complementary, they’re not actually quite addressing the same issue. The detection and attribution approach is essentially trying to determine how anthropogenic-driven climate change influences the probability of a specific class of event. The storyline approach, on the other hand, is more looking at how anthropogenically-driven climate change might have influenced an event that has actually occurred. There is no real reason why we should prefer one approach over the other; they can both play an important role in aiding our understanding of how anthropogenic influences impact extreme weather events.
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JC comment: The epistemic status of formal detection and attribution approaches, versus the storyline approach, should be obvious to all CE readers.
The ‘storyline’ approach is useful for posing hypotheses for for further investigation (and avoiding possible Type II errors). However, these ‘storylines’ are generally posed by climate researchers rather than by meteorological experts on that particular type of extreme weather.
In any event, using such storylines, and claiming (even implicitly) that they are part of the AGW ‘consensus’ is scientifically dishonest.
Roger Pielke Jr’s story
As scientists are interviewed following each hurricane, speculative storylines about hurricanes and global warming abound in the public discourse on climate change. Some of these manage to get published. However, nearly all get knocked back by serious assessments.
As an example, recall the ‘storyline’ whereby Hurricane Sandy (wind speeds equivalent to a Cat 1 hurricane at landfall) was influenced by some magical steering effect associated with AGW that steered to the storm to New York City. Well, the recent U.S. National Climate Assessment Report tackled this one head on (Appendix C, Box C.2) and concluded:
“[T]here is low confidence in determining the net impact to date of anthropogenic climate change on the risk of Sandy-like events, though anthropogenic sea level rise, all other things equal, has increased the surge risk.”
For a more complete discussion, see my previous blog post on hurricanes and attribution to climate change.
Roger Pielke Jr. has been tireless in calling out scientists and others who make statements attributing hurricane impacts to climate change, citing the IPCC and other national/international assessments.
For this, Roger Pielke Jr has been massively attacked and ostracized. See this recent article by Ross McKitrick that appeared in the Financial Post “This scientist proved climate change isn’t causing extreme weather — so politicians attacked“:
“Roger Pielke Jr. is a scientist at University of Colorado in Boulder who, up until a few years ago, did world-leading research on climate change and extreme weather. He found convincing evidence that climate change was not leading to higher rates of weather-related damages worldwide, once you correct for increasing population and wealth. He also helped convene major academic panels to survey the evidence and communicate the near-unanimous scientific consensus on this topic to policymakers. For his efforts, Pielke was subjected to a vicious, well-funded smear campaign backed by, among others, the Obama White House and leading Democratic congressmen, culminating in his decision in 2015 to quit the field.”
If you are unfamiliar with the details of all this, they are quite chilling. RPJr has prepared a twitter thread on his talk ‘Extreme Weather and Extreme Politics” which is a must read. Incidents include:
- the coordinated effort of the Center for American Progress to get RPJr fired from his position on 538
- shenanigans (corruption, really) in the IPCC AR4 Section 1.3.8.5 that passed off an unpublished graph as being published and miscited it, so that they could claim an influence of warming on disaster losses
- Grijalval inquisition
- Dr John Holdren (President Obama’s Director of Office of Science, Technology and Policy) posted a screed on the White House web page against RPJr and his findings on disasters and climate change, which were highly inappropriate (not to mention scientifically incorrect).
Why extreme events matter in the climate debate
Why is attributing extreme events (or not) to AGW such a big deal? Well, the reason for this became apparent to me following Hurricane Katrina (2005), in the heyday of the hurricanes and global warming argument.
Lets face it, in 2005 the public found it very hard to care about 1 degree or even 4 degrees of warming — heck, the temperatures varied by that much on a day-to-day basis. If they wanted a slightly warmer or cooler climate, they could always move a few hundred miles to the north or south.
However, arguments that a relatively small amount of global warming (order 1 C) could result in more intense hurricanes, well that got their attention, particularly as the U.S. was reeling from Katrina catastrophe.
The AGW activists now had new weapon in their arsenal — attributing extreme weather events to manmade climate change. The ‘will to act’ seemed tied to alarmism about extreme weather events. Which provides a key political role for unsupported ‘storylines’ about extreme weather events.
Scaring the children
A corollary to this activist strategy is to scare school children, and enlist their help in politicizing the issue of climate change and extreme events and also convincing their parents.
The poster child for this is Swedish teenager Greta Thunberg. Several relevant articles on scaring the children over climate change:
- Stop scaring children witless about climate change
- Self-harm versus the greater good
- The real problem with Greta Thunberg is not her age.
The obvious issue is that teachers should educate children about climate science and not scare them witless about the apocalypse. The less obvious issue is the harm done by scaring children.
The other glaring example of this is the Juliana v. United States lawsuit, filed by school children (with the help of Jim Hansen and some activist organizations.) Extreme events figure prominently in what the children are worried about.
I sympathize with Greta Thunberg and the other scared children. I have my own ‘scaring children’ story to relate.
Back circa 1960, the ‘scary story’ was Russians taking over the U.S. through nuclear war or via infiltrating the U.S. This scary story was conveyed to me on a weekly basis by a nun in my Saturday Catechism class (Catholic Church). I was well and duly scared by all this. In fact I worried alot about this. When one of my parents was late to come home from shopping or an outing, I was worried that they got captured by the Russians.
In fact I worried about all this so much that I was diagnosed with a stomach ulcer at the ripe old age of 8 years old. In discussing this with my doctor (who had been apprised by my parents that I was a ‘worrier’), he told me I had nothing to worry about, and in any event there was nothing I could do about all this as a kid. And that I should enjoy my childhood. I said ‘ok’, and that was pretty much the end of my worrying about the Russians.
(Note: all this worrying was brought back into my memory by watching the TV show ‘The Americans’ which is absolutely fascinating.
Unlike Greta et al., I was told by responsible adults to stop worrying. In the case of Greta et al., they are cheered on by adults who find these children to be very useful in their propaganda efforts.
Conclusions
So where does all this leave us in the climate debate? There is very little in the way of extreme weather events that can convincingly be attributed to manmade global warming, even if you are assuming that all of the recent warming is manmade.
Global warming activists will continue use extreme events as an argument against fossil fuels, even though there is little to no evidence to support this. Without this argument, there is very little left to worry about in the near term regarding AGW, apart from the slow creep of sea level rise.
The shenanigans of activists and politicians in this regard are not surprising. What is horrifying is the way that schoolchildren are being used (and arguably harmed) in the interests of supporting the activists’ propaganda.
And finally, the silence of scientists who should know better, especially among those who have a vocal public presence (e.g. media interviews, twitter) is very disturbing. Although who among them would want to suffer the hassles and osctracism suffered by RPJr, myself and others.
The ‘establishment’ community of climate scientist activists has much to answer for. But insatiable media market for ‘fake news’ regarding extreme weather events assures them of a path of continued professional success for spouting alarmism regarding extreme weather events.
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Climate and weather extremes are normal. Wide temperature swings are normal. Normally distributed. There is little value to attribute any event within normal to natural or anthropogenic sources. Political myths are selective with anthropogenic significance. That said, disagreement is normal, too. We can’t even reach an agreement when human evolution begins, instead deferring to a “consensus” for social, medical, and corporate opportunity.
Humans do have an effect on extreme weather. The more people, the more weather gets labelled “extreme” because it personally affects them adversely.
” Interesting to ponder that Congressional procedural issues are deemed to be more important than Climate Change.”
Of greater importance is the plastic straw crisis.
You also need to take into account the increase in galactic rays in high latitudes that create paths for lightning.
http://sol.spacenvironment.net/raps_ops/current_files/Cutoff.html
http://sol.spacenvironment.net/nairas/Dose_Rates.html
It is worth remembering that it still takes the minimum of the solar cycle.
The heat wave in Eastern Europe is closely related to the braking of circulation in the Atlantic. This circulation occurs in periods of low solar activity.
Currently, the temperature difference between Western and Eastern Europe exceeds 10 degrees C.
Similarly, the circulation in the Pacific is blocked and the jetstream from the north is directed to the southwest the US.
Despite the fact that the magnetic activity of the Sun at the end of cycle 24 was normal, solar dynamo are still surprising scientists.
http://wso.stanford.edu/gifs/DipallR.gif
From a propaganda standpoint, extreme weather events is the only lever available to the AGW Alarmunists.
Nobody is going pay a dime to keep the world from getting a degree warmer over several decades…let alone up to $100 Trillion (this century). If fact, most (including myself) would be willing to pay a good bit if you COULD make the world a little warmer.
Extreme weather is the only effective propaganda tool they have so don’t expect to see any actual truth to emerge from the MSM propaganda arm of the Socialist Intetnationale cabal.
When these Climate Hearings do resume (if the Trump Inquisition ever pauses long enough), you will find NYT headlines proclaiming that Big Oil-financed climate denier Judith Curry once again committed perjury in Congressional testimony when she denied that Hurricane Sandy wasn’t a unusual tragedy.
Fortunately, extreme weather events don’t happen often enough to maintain effective propaganda momentum. The meter could budge a bit (and “a bit” could be enough) if hurricane landfalls just before the 2020 election were unusually damaging .
Clever story…hard sell.
“There is very little in the way of extreme weather events that can convincingly be attributed to manmade global warming, even if you are assuming that all of the recent warming is manmade.” There is also no real trend in temperature … and I’ve got fed up looking at ice because again that was boring. There is nothing at all to worry about the climate … so how come politicians are calling this an “emergency”.
The simple answer, is that we have left the age of reason … where science and evidence were deemed to be sovereign … and we have entered a new epoch: the age of stupid.
Hear, hear!
We have seen evolution in work. New homo has born: Homo Sapiens Idioticus.
F1nn
We have seen the lack of evolution in work: No death by failure or errors or bad judgement => A new breed: Homo Simpleton Idioticus.
In 1995 the internet supposed to spawn a networked global-mind of superior knowledge and wisdom which turned us all into super nodes (instead of super nerds) – what’s up with that?
“In any event, using such storylines, and claiming (even implicitly) that they are part of the AGW ‘consensus’ is scientifically dishonest.”
The current fad is “science communication” as if there is a science thereof. How many links here go to ‘experts’ with the title and/or group with that or its facsimile. Proper communication is important but if it is just advertising for your product it won’t wash. Academia is now advertising to be our saviour.
The concept of grading evidence is normal practice in clinical medicine.
a. GRADE methodology
The AAFP uses a modified version of the Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation (GRADE) method to systematically examine research to rate the quality of the evidence, and designate the strength of a recommendation based upon that evidence. The GRADE system provides a transparent process and framework for developing evidence-based recommendations using the following system to rate the quality of evidence: eg from https://www.aafp.org/patient-care/clinical-recommendations/cpg-manual.html#ii
” i. High Quality (Level A): Further research is very unlikely to change our confidence in the estimate of effect.
ii. Moderate Quality (Level B): Further research is likely to have an important impact on our confidence in the estimate of effect, and
may change the estimate.
iii. Low Quality (Level C): Further research is very likely to have an important impact on our confidence in the estimate of effect, and
is likely to change the estimate.
iv. Very Low Quality (Level D): Any estimate of effect is very uncertain.”
This is combined with a “Strength of Recommendation” on the confidence that a particular intervention will have the desirable effect is greater than the undesirable effects on a strong/weak axis.
For an example of the use of the grading system, see the European recommendations for treatment of male hypogonadism. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/13685538.2015.1004049
It is interesting to contrast the above with the 2015 update of 2010 Guidelines of the Endocrine Society in the US. Here they recognise the some of the changes in the European Guidelines, but the thresholds for treatment given in 2010 are much higher and unchanged: men in the US are much less likely to be treated. https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2815%2900467-X/fulltext
The contrasts between the approaches in the Americas versus Europe is where one can see the moral and political aspects of the evaluations of in this rather highly charged medical area. The IPCC report is this type of document. What we need to educate people on is the ways in which uncertainty is handled in scientific areas connected with practical application, and also introduce the notion that political and moral positions can have major effects on interpretations of data.
I refer the visitors and commenters to the Milanchovitch Cycles.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GUcn07enz4
I now introduce the well-known phrase, “first encountered pathology” used in medical circles. Scientists with bias often speed past the first encountered pathology because it is far sexier to solve a mystery with some novel and usually tiny catalyst. However, in many cases, the first encountered pathology can also cause changes in smaller steps (think of the slow buildup of ear wax till the patient complains of a hearing loss). This is what the Milanchovitch Cycles could be doing. It certainly stands to reason that the mechanism that plunges us, stepwise, into cold, then rockets us back to warm is not a sudden event. Therefor, the mechanism that causes large change could be the same entity that causes smaller change.
Given that the intrinsic causes of the extreme meteorological events are often opposite, it is an absurdity to claim that the temperatures rise due to climate change might produce in the same time an increase in polar cold waves and canicular heat waves, in extreme droughts and massive floodings.
Already in December 2018, the asymmetrical distribution of ozone in the north was visible in the stratosphere.
http://oi67.tinypic.com/j9yi5k.jpg
This is related to the accumulation of ozone over the Bering Sea and the Earth’s magnetic field. Ozone as diamagnetic is repelled by the magnetic field.
Diamagnetic materials are repelled by a magnetic field; an applied magnetic field creates an induced magnetic field in them in the opposite direction, causing a repulsive force.
http://oi65.tinypic.com/209fvk0.jpg
Annual rate of change of total intensity in region of north pole for 2015.0 to 2020.0 from the
World Magnetic Model (WMM2015v2).
http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/images/charts/jpg/polar_n_df.jpg
This is related to the accumulation of ozone over the Bering Sea and the Earth’s magnetic field. Ozone as diamagnetic is repelled by the magnetic field.
Here’s a link to an alarmist 6/14/19 (Friday) front-page story in the Seattle Times
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/heat-waves-could-kill-hundreds-more-in-seattle-as-globe-warms-researchers-say/#comments
Headline: “Seattle unprepared for deadly heat waves made worse by global warming, researchers say”
June 14, 2019 at 6:00 am Updated June 14, 2019 at 5:37 pm
The original, print-edition, top-of-the-page banner headline, before the digital update 12 hour later, read: “Heat waves could kill hundreds more in Seattle as planet warms, researchers say.”
I dislike the use of the confidence rating scale which asks authors to assign a rating from “low confidence” to “high confidence” to various statements. It presumes that the effect being discussed exists and the issue is how confident scientists are about it. In my opinion it is only suitable for the kind of science which seeks justification for given conclusions.
“Contending with Natural Disasters in the Wake of Climate Change”? I love that! Let’s have one entitled “Contending with Safety at Sea in the Wake of The Flying Dutchman” …
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So is that 640 kW every microsecond ???