Maue on Gore

Another of Dr. Maue’s excellent twitter threads.

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Dave Fair
June 3, 2019 10:14 pm

A dirty, dirty man is Al Gore. He knows better, but profits from his lies.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Dave Fair
June 4, 2019 6:26 am

To paraphrase Nasim Taleb, I’m not as concerned about people going into politics rich.

I’m more concerned about them coming out of politics rich.

I mean…this guy was the son of a Senator, then a Senator for decades. Now he’s a multi-millionaire.

That this doesn’t ring any bells on the Usual Suspects on the left who whine about every.single.negative about capitalism says all you need to know about them.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
June 4, 2019 7:38 am

Charlatans are not constrained to any particular political persuasion besides narcissism and selfishness. If they reside within one camp or another it is purely out of convenience for them.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Rocketscientist
June 4, 2019 9:14 am

No disagreement here.

In this instance, both sides of the political spectrum are hypocrites: the left for becoming the very thing they dislike (i.e., rich), and the right for doing so on the public teat.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
June 4, 2019 6:04 pm

It’s hard to turn down money when you find out how easy it is to persuade folks to give it to you, or almost force you through subsidies.

Reply to  Dave Fair
June 4, 2019 11:35 am

He knows better

He knows better, knows almost all and every thing, about the nothing.
This guy happens to be so knowledgeable, so learned, so powerful, so much so that the idiot still fails to realize the dear implications of the “yellow card” already issued clearly
against him….and the actual implications that caries over time!
A proper real moron…


Joel Snider
Reply to  Dave Fair
June 4, 2019 4:31 pm

I believe the woman here in Portland he tried to rape called him a ‘sex poodle’.

June 3, 2019 10:39 pm

It appears some people want to be told scary bedtime stories, with monsters under the bed and ghosts in the closet. The people who believe this are somehow hard wired differently than natural skeptics, sort of like some people see the glass half full, and others see the glass half empty. This probably comes from our long term past when religion/mythology literally ruled the day and most people just accepted whatever the high priests told them. Or as in some other political states, it can be very bad for your health to go against the grain of the establishment and the status quo.

It seems there is no difference between then and now, and it is still about control, power and money. It may take some time to breed this out of our genetic makeup, since the facts of historic climate trends certainly doesn’t prove that we are in or approaching any climate emergency. Unfortunately, Al Gore and his ilk are still milking this for everything they got, and many people want to be frightened by scary stories.

Reply to  Earthling2
June 4, 2019 12:03 am

Need a word change. “Al Gore and his ilk are still milking this for everything they got”. Change ‘they’ to ‘we’.

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Earthling2
June 4, 2019 12:49 am

I don’t believe in Al Gore, but there ARE ghosts in the closet.

Reply to  Earthling2
June 4, 2019 6:49 am

“It may take some time to breed this out of our genetic makeup” Yes it may.

“Those that are aware of the shadows and lies of their culture, will never be understood let alone believed, by the masses” – Plato

Reply to  Earthling2
June 4, 2019 7:17 am

Or the way some people desperately need to believe that all radiation is dangerous, or that immunizations are actually killing us.

Reply to  Earthling2
June 4, 2019 10:05 am

I see it as halfway to another glass. 😉

June 3, 2019 11:39 pm

Still shaking your fist at clouds? Meantime the Arctic ice blinks out and the glaciers retreat up hill.

Mark Luhman
Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 12:10 am

Why in the hell did you not put 2018 in your graph? I think you are guilty of cherry picking?

Reply to  Mark Luhman
June 4, 2019 1:31 am

Yeah, ignore the elephant taking a dump.

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 7:19 am

It’s more like a gnat than an elephant.

David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 1:24 pm

Loydo does not believe in rational thought or facts that don’t agree with his viewpoint

Joel Snider
Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 4:29 pm

Would you be the elephant or the dump?

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 12:53 am

“the glaciers retreat up hill.”…

….exposing stumps of trees that grew where the glacier is now retreating some hundreds or thousands of years before man made ‘climate change’ existed…

Evidence of climate change is not evidence of man made climate change. Or even Mann made climate change.

Reply to  Leo Smith
June 4, 2019 2:59 am

yeah thats the bit that cracks me up…so the permafrost actually was NOT permananetlyfrosted otherwise the plants ferns etc wouldnt BE under the snow or ice ditto the tree stumps. and the rising oceans faff is hilarious when we consider all the offshore cities and the forests etc being exposed offshore UK from 2014 and again now.
you ask people about that and theyre blank…
they call you a denier but you ask them how much they KNOW nut just msm headers and theyre blank again..
and this is what were up against the gullible nonthinking followers who do jackschitt to BE educted but will vote to make their own lives hellish- complacently
ausie greens are in full climate crisis peril moda all over radio today , gotta beat it up cos the IDIOT not savant gretas going to tour.

Reply to  Leo Smith
June 4, 2019 6:26 am

Also exposing ancient mines on Switzerland, abandoned when the snow-line descended.

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 3:36 am

That graph is using raw sea ice extent data. Useless for any meaningful analysis. Many things (snow, snow cover, wind, etc) affect the raw microwave signal that have to be accounted for with weather-related assumptions and corrective algorithms. That process takes time. The website even admits that data can have errors up to 10% and that ice extent can be underestimated.

A C Osborn
Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 4:28 am

No mention of the Glaciers that are growing?
Why is that?
The Arctic Ice comes back every winter, why do you think Russia are still building more Atomic Ice Breakers, they obviously don’t think the Arctic is going to be Ice free.

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 4:44 am

Wait there is glaciers and arctic sea ice left .. I thought it was supposed to be all gone?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  LdB
June 4, 2019 6:22 am

“Wait there is glaciers and arctic sea ice left”

No, there ARE glaciers and Arctic sea ice left.

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 7:19 am

Except arctic ice isn’t blinking out. 12 years with no net loss of ice.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 9:45 am

Loydo can’t seem to find the appropriate article to comment on.

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 6:19 pm

The arctic ice graph doesn’t show anything unexpected. It’s been this low lower before, just not in hour lifetime.
The mass change graph is informative. Unfortunately is shows that the last five years have leveled out.

Given the size of the variations over the years you probably should use a 30 year(climate) running mean. It would show little change but would be more valid for climate claims.

Reply to  Philo
June 5, 2019 12:30 am

“five years”
“you probably should use a 30 year(climate) running mean”

Yes the longer the better. Here is 40 years worth

How long do you wait before ruling it out as merely being a cycle?

oriel kolnai
Reply to  Loydo
June 6, 2019 6:38 am

Uh, OK. Arctic sea ice less than 1980. Reason? Well, opinions differ, but the IPCC reckons many of the consequences will be good:

When the Arctic melts, it doesn’t raise sea levels does it? Why not (think of whisky on the rocks)? But if the Antarctic did, boy, we’d have something to think about alright. No-one knows enough, but it looks as if it’s getting colder down there:

Reply to  Loydo
June 4, 2019 7:13 pm

Hi Griff,

Robert B
Reply to  Loydo
June 5, 2019 3:22 am

Only your second link works. Its modelling that should show a lot of variability, even if an underlying downward trend, for it to be believable. You have huge differences from scientists so that some say that the Antarctic has gained ice overall while others guestimate All Gore like scary changes.

1920’s news articles warn of disappearing ice with”Last Winter the ocean did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen”. Ice was still covering more than half the coastline half way through spring this year.

It was reported in 1924 that there were two seasons of very little heavy ice in Baffin Bay. Still half the area has heavy ice this June.

It pretty clear that large variation in ice cover is natural.

Flight Level
June 3, 2019 11:42 pm

That Gore guy exhibits all professional assets of a scammer.

Declaring unsubstantiated emergencies to strike deals right here right now, total disdain for criticisms as long as there are new believers to refresh the stock of potential preys.

Like those recurrent internet ads for the “best 2019 antivirus” that invariantly lead to rogue panic generating dangerous malware.

They do not use stealth practices to invade. To the opposite, alike Gore, they get vocal until the user clicks on the install / believe button and chooses to ignore any commonsense warnings.

Then it’s too late to admit being a looser.

Reply to  Flight Level
June 4, 2019 4:46 am

Well, after all, Gore is a career politician, ya’ know. Do you expect anything other than superficial?

Flight Level
Reply to  Tom
June 4, 2019 1:20 pm

Honesty ? Integrity ?

*palmface* I’m just getting old, those values have suffered more inflation than I can think of over the years.

Rob Robertson
June 3, 2019 11:55 pm

Al needs a sack to wear and ad boards hanging over his shoulders saying ‘The End is Nigh’ he’d have more credibility then.

george Tetley
June 3, 2019 11:55 pm

Americans ,
Please explain why your electrical system vomits forth
and the new wave of democratic hopefuls
is it just ignorance , stupidity, or an uneducated nass (millions )

Reply to  george Tetley
June 4, 2019 12:05 am

“Please explain why your *electrical * system vomits forth….”

Because the amount of ‘green’ content has made the system unstable.

Reply to  george Tetley
June 4, 2019 3:40 am

You forgot to add Donald Trump to the list.

A C Osborn
Reply to  Trebla
June 4, 2019 4:30 am

President Trump does not pray at the Altar of AGW & Ruinables.

Reply to  Trebla
June 4, 2019 7:22 am

Funny how actually doing a good job gets some people bent out of shape.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  george Tetley
June 4, 2019 4:58 am

“Americans ,
Please explain why your electoral system vomits forth (various unsavory leftists). . .

is it just ignorance , stupidity, or an uneducated mass (millions)

It’s all three. But mainly it’s leftwing propaganda. The Left in the Western world, not just America, owns the the News Media and the Entertainment Media and put out leftwing propaganda every day, all day long.

The Left also owns the educational systems of the Western world where they spend years propagandizing gullible students in leftwing ideology and hate.

The result is hundreds of millions of brainwashed citizens who don’t understand enough about the world to vote in their own best interests and they vote for bozos like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama..

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 4, 2019 6:33 am


Here in Canada we elected someone who makes Occasional-Cortex look like Einstein.

AND he has more power than Trump could ever dream of, politically. In our system, the leader of the party with the most representatives is the leader of the party with almost unlimited power to hire and fire, push policies, etc.

So be grateful for what you have. It could be worse. Take Europe before the common sense started recently…

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 4, 2019 9:03 am

Unfortunately true.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 4, 2019 11:15 am

Tetley said “ELECTRICAL system vomits forth etc.” Reminds me of one of the great B Movle lines, something to the effect that “Since he comes from H-bomb, shouldn’t we call him H- man?”. Since they come from Consolidated Edison, shouldn’t we call them Con Men?

Michael Ozanne
Reply to  george Tetley
June 4, 2019 11:40 pm

Because T May,Bojo,Corbyn,Cable, etc ad nauseum are *so* much better….

Howard Dewhirst
June 4, 2019 2:22 am

cynical but effective, he is still winning the race

June 4, 2019 2:43 am

Gore and his many multimedia presentation relies on his interpretation of what the IPCC and their climate models say. I wonder how he will take to this …
It is nice to see the work from honest scientist occasionally gets through …

Physica C. Essex, A.A. Tsonis, Model falsifiability and climate slow modes,


• Climate models do not and cannot employ known physics fully. Thus, they are falsified, a priori.
• Incomplete physics and the finite representation of computers can induce false instabilities.
• Eliminating instability can lead to computational overstabilization or false stability.
• Models on ultra-long timescales are dubiously stable. This is referred to as the “climate state.” Is it real?
• Decadal variability is understandable in terms of a specific class of nonlinear dynamical systems.


The most advanced climate models are actually modified meteorological models attempting to capture climate in meteorological terms. This seems a straightforward matter of raw computing power applied to large enough sources of current data. Some believe that models have succeeded in capturing climate in this manner. But have they? This paper outlines difficulties with this picture that derive from the finite representation of our computers, and the fundamental unavailability of future data instead. It suggests that alternative windows onto the multi-decadal timescales are necessary in order to overcome the issues raised for practical problems of prediction.

So Mr Gore, the climate models are apparently not a way to verify the climate actuality, and even less so for projection about the future.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  tom0mason
June 4, 2019 6:26 am

“The most advanced climate models are actually modified meteorological models attempting to capture climate in meteorological terms. This seems a straightforward matter of raw computing power applied to large enough sources of current data.”

Except that meteorological models aren’t very good either. They often get conditions wrong just a few hours out. Our local (Seattle) weather guy often says “I’m waiting for a few more runs of the models.” Why? If they’re accurate, you only need one run. Nope. Useless.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 4, 2019 8:06 am

Weather is not climate. Weather models are the wrong tool for the job.

June 4, 2019 3:38 am

“Al Gore’s Excellent Timing
The former vice president holds a series of climate presentations amid a rash of floods, droughts, heat waves, and hurricanes”

Classic fake news media – like a fart in the wind – decades of the “Gore Effect” vanish like it never happened.

June 4, 2019 4:29 am

So Al the Gorebull is at it again, using disaster to line his pockets and frighten the gullible.

Please ignore the man behind the curtain, folks, He’s an idiot, full of sound, hot air and fury, saying nothing meaningful, but he does want to empty your pockets and lead you to ruin.

June 4, 2019 4:35 am

As Dr Spencer pointed out, the tornado outbreak in the Midwest was due to the upper Midwest being unusually cold, not warm, thus providing the contrast in temperature required to produce tornadoes.
That Algore can claim global warming as the cause of cold weather shows both his chutzpah and his ignorance.

AGW is not Science
Reply to  Tom Halla
June 4, 2019 6:03 am

Yes, that’s the constant elephant being swept under the rug.

It is temperature DIFFERENTIAL, not warmer “average” temperatures, that cause the most violent weather.

And those DIFFERENTIALS are GREATER when the CLIMATE is COLDER, not when the climate is warmer.

Reply to  Tom Halla
June 4, 2019 2:39 pm

I’m still trying to sort that one out: How in the blue-eyed, blinking world does heat produce cold?

I could go into a long harangue about cold being the absence of heat, because it’s so simple. Leave a mug of hot tea on the countertop for about 20 minutes and it cools enough to be nearly room temperature. And stirring it won’t make it heat back up. The cup’s clay body may help it hold heat for a while, but eventually, it cools to room temperature and you have to REHEAT IT.

You have to supply heat to reheat the tea. Do none of those UTTERLY BRILLIANT CAGWers, Greenbeans or Warmians, or Gorebullions understand that simple principle? Maybe if they get lost in a blizzard and come across a kindly family living in a sod house they’ll understand things a little better.

Tom Abbott
June 4, 2019 5:11 am

From the article:

Dr. Maue: “Al Gore’s climate presentations use recent headlines — falsely conflating weather and climate change — to “catalyze a solution to the climate crisis”

Al Gore isn’t alone in this. It seems that every news report we get about the weather does the very same thing. They all claim a connection between human-caused CO2 and any extreme weather they are describing.

None of them could demonstrate a connection between CO2 and a weather event even if their lives depended on it, but they keep on claiming humans are causing the weather to be more extreme. Even though the extreme weather we experience is not any more extreme than it was in the past when human-derived CO2 was not an issue.

Al Gore making these outrageous, unproven claims about CO2 and the weather gives all the rest of the CAGW promoters in the News Media permission to do the very same thing. And they do. They spread these lies and scare people to death.

Bob Hoye
June 4, 2019 6:04 am

For big government, fear has become a growth industry.

Pamela Gray
June 4, 2019 6:12 am

There seems no lack of a pool of stupid people who rise to prominence, and then stay there for some time continuing to spout stupidity. Is it because the wreck unfolding in real time is just too newsworthy and juicy for the media to ignore? News organizations that post this stuff must head for a bar afterwards to wash it all down with a stiff drink. I would imagine that the rank and file members of liberal news organizations are near to being raging alcoholics by now.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Pamela Gray
June 4, 2019 6:28 am

Oh he’s not stupid, but he thinks we are.

Don Perry
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 4, 2019 2:36 pm

No, he is, indeed, stupid.

Reply to  Pamela Gray
June 4, 2019 9:22 am

Not stupid, just evil and corrupt. Most of the smart folks are out doing real work in the world. If you can’t “do”, well, I guess there is always politics….

June 4, 2019 6:19 am

The most disturbing thing for America is not Al Gore and all his failed predictions and scientific illiteracy.

The most disturbing thing is that Harvard U invited him to speak to the graduating seniors. Harvard U does still have a science department that is now more dedicated to politics than science. Science be damned, full speed ahead toward a socialist utopia. California is providing the direction for another failed experiment in the grandeur of failure.

June 4, 2019 6:22 am

The most disturbing thing for America is not Al Gore and all his failed predictions and scientific illiteracy.

The most disturbing thing is that Harvard U invited him to speak to the graduating seniors. Harvard U does still have a science department that is now more dedicated to politics than science. Science be damned, full speed ahead toward a socialist utopia. California is providing the direction for another failed experiment in the grandeur of failure.

June 4, 2019 6:40 am

I’m reminded of the ‘End Times’ preachers of my childhood. The would say ‘you can see the fulfillment of prophecy in today’s headlines’. Then every war or natural disaster or technology would be used to confirm that the world is going to end within a generation. Eventually it died down.

June 4, 2019 6:41 am

I never thought of the hanging chad as the Butterfly Effect but now it’s coming into focus.

Jim in NC
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 4, 2019 8:03 am


Jeff Alberts
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 10, 2019 6:23 am

The Butterfly Effect is even more poorly named than the Greenhouse Effect.

June 4, 2019 6:51 am

Separation of logical domains. Science is, with cause, a near-frame philosophy and practice.

June 4, 2019 7:16 am

“Gore “lamented” that the science was “lagging” on connecting tornadoes to climate change.”

So Gore claims to know more than the “scientists” do?

He knew that more CO2 would cause more tornadoes, so he demanded that the scientists find him the proof he needed.

June 4, 2019 7:47 am

Here is the real Algore after his sisters death from lung cancer.
What Gore didn’t mention is that he grew up on a tobacco farm, worked on it, and continued to accept checks from that farm for years after his sister died. In 1988, while running for president, he defended tobacco farmers while campaigning in Southern tobacco states (and made the quote up above: ‘I’ve raised tobacco … I’ve shredded it, spiked it,… and sold it.’) He accepted contributions from tobacco companies as late as 1990.

Snarling Dolphin
June 4, 2019 8:15 am

Anybody who would place a poor defenseless turtle on a fence post is not to be trusted. Al Gore was raised surrounded by people who did this frequently enough for it to become lore.

John Furst
June 4, 2019 9:30 am

Mr. Gore used to be heavily involved / invested in the carbon trading industry. I recall at one time the value approached $1B. Does he still have this conflict, self-interest ? I’m SURE he would tell audiences if he did.

Rod Evans
June 4, 2019 12:03 pm

If Al Gore had an ounce of belief in the fairy tales he presents, he would put himself forward as a Presidential candidate.
It would be interesting to see how long his run for President would last, before the truth of his failed climate predictions and the firm beliefs about climate change he professes to hold, are exposed as mere adornments just personal aids used to help him stay in the public eye.
What is going on in the USA? How can such a charlatan continue demanding air time for the length he has? He is just peddling one lie after another as truth. People used to be prosecuted for that kind of thing.

Will Nelson
June 4, 2019 2:19 pm

Al Gore is a very very(?) generous man. In fact, his charitable giving in 1997 was a much as 1/10 of the average for his tax bracket, $353. For example, this is an amazing 1/16 of my charitable giving on 1/3 the income for that year. One can only hope to someday achieve such high ratios as Al has set for us… folks, this is a man truly to be looked up to for self sacrifice.

June 4, 2019 2:28 pm

Australia is thankful to Mr. Gore for visiting his “Gore Effect” on them at the moment.
Blizzards, deluges and freezing temps all up and down the east of the the continent.
Yay Big Al!

June 4, 2019 2:29 pm

The falsehoods that Al Gore portrays are indicated by his policy solutions. Like other catastrophists Gore forgets the basic theory. CAGW is supposedly being caused by global emissions. Yet the policy solutions are not global but national, local or even personal. They exclude “developing” countries containing over 80% of the global population, and exclude countries who rely on produning fossil fuels for a large part of their national income, such as Russia, Saudi Arabia and Iran. In the language of the alarmists, even if global policies might save the planet for future generations, current climate policies will make life harder for the current generation without greater returns later.
As an indication of the scale of the problem I have graphed the top 20 fossil fuel producing countries, expressing the approximate value of annual production and expressed as a percentage of GDP. USA and China are the biggest producers, but their economies are vast. Russia’s economy is about 1/13th of the US economy and Saudi Arabia’s about 1/36th, so lower fossil fuel production is far more significant to them.
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Geoff Sherrington
June 4, 2019 2:32 pm

Thirty years ago when I was in major Australian resources management, I also had other tasks like government interactions and President of a Chamber of Mines and Energy. These gave scope for involvement in social matters apart from the main thrust of discovery, development and rehabilitation.
Two social matters dominated, coping with ever-increasing bureaucratic demands and minimising our reputational damage when the several main enviro NGO groups like WWF, Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth would spread a burst of their inaccurate, hate-filled, tailored or general propaganda.
For the latter we maintained good media relations with a major part of the press and we used the Press for initial corrections to the NGO garbage, which was usuall not very clever garbage. Immature school student level, commonly.
We proceeded on the assumption that deliberate attacks on our reputation were able to be settled in a Court. In our State jurisdiction there was case law derived from an event whereby an actor was hired to “find” the tail of a rat while dining in the top pie restaurant whose reputation was the target. People “smelled a rat”, the dodge was exposed and the perps punished.
Back to the NGO problem, rightly or wrongly, we acted with the confidence that the rat tail case allowed us but we never tested the precedent in Court.
After all that preamble, what is the present situation in jurisdictions like USA, UK and Oz? Is there well known case law, what is it, is it being used, are there alternative ways to protect corporate reputations? Or are we past a tipping point that allows these toxic NGOs to harm how they wish? In my days we would have sued and spent big $$$ to minimise repeat attempts to damage us. Geoff

June 4, 2019 3:14 pm

‘Just as former US vice-president and climatic catastrophist guru, Al Gore, visits the Sunshine State to lecture Queenslanders on runaway, man-made global warming, the temperature plummets and the snow begins to fall.’

Mirage News

June 4, 2019 5:07 pm

Al the Gorebull has yet to explain winter events like snow tornadoes (whirlwinds forming in a snowstorm with high winds involved) and thundersnow and lightning in the winter. We get that a lot around here in the winter. The lightning is the only thing that gets my attention. No. really – that’s it.

I’m sure he can’t explain wind shear, either, even though it is the seminal part of a tornado’s birth and existence.

He also can’t explain why the temperature drops so suddenly when a tornado is approaching, but then, if he acknowledges any of these realities, it cooks his moose. (Yes, moose.)

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