From The National Review
By Shawn Regan
And markets are much better
As the Soviet Union began to collapse, the socialist economist Robert Heilbroner admitted that central planning had failed economically but said we needed “to rethink the meaning of socialism.” Now it was the thing that had to emerge if humanity was to cope with “the one transcendent challenge that faces it within a thinkable timespan.” Heilbroner considered this one thing to be “the ecological burden that economic growth is placing on the environment.” Markets may be better at allocating resources, Heilbroner thought, but only socialism could avoid ecological disaster.
Not long after, however, it became clear that the socialist economies of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union were not just economic failures; they were also environmental catastrophes. Economist Jeffrey Sachs noted at the time that the socialist nations had “some of the worst environmental problems in the entire globe.” Air and water pollution abounded. By one estimate, in the late 1980s, particulate air pollution was 13 times higher per unit of GDP in Central and Eastern Europe than in Western Europe. Levels of gaseous air pollution were twice as high as this. Wastewater pollution was three times higher.
And people’s health was suffering as a result. Respiratory illnesses from pollution were rampant. In East Germany, 60 percent of the population suffered from respiratory ailments. In Leningrad (now St. Petersburg), nearly half of all children had intestinal disorders caused by contaminated water. Children in Poland were found to have five times more lead in their blood than children in Western Europe. Conditions were so bad that, as Heilbroner acknowledged, the Soviet Union became the first industrialized country in history to experience a prolonged peacetime decline in average life expectancy.
As the Iron Curtain lifted, socialism’s dirty environmental secret was exposed: Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union were the most polluted and degraded places on earth. “When historians finally conduct an autopsy of the Soviet Union and Soviet Communism,” economist Murray Feshbach and journalist Alfred Friendly Jr. wrote in 1992, “they may reach the verdict of death by ecocide.”
Consider the destruction of the Aral Sea between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, which has been called “one of the planet’s worst environmental disasters.” Once the world’s fourth-largest inland body of water, it shrank to less than half its original size because of Soviet economic policies. Fixated on making the USSR self-sufficient in cotton production, central planners mandated industrial agriculture throughout the arid region. Massive water diversions for irrigation reduced the sea’s inflows to a trickle, causing the biggest manmade loss of water in history. Fishing villages became dry and landlocked. Some, such as the former port city of Muynak, now lie more than 75 miles from the sea.
The desiccation of the Aral Sea also caused severe health problems throughout the region. As the waters receded, the sea’s salty floor was exposed, along with pesticides that had accumulated from agricultural operations. All this was then carried by strong winds to nearby communities. Respiratory problems, throat cancer, and other illnesses became more common as the pollutants were deposited in the lungs of millions. The human and environmental consequences are still being felt. Today, infant-mortality rates in the Aral Sea region remain significantly higher than the national average in Uzbekistan, and children there experience similarly high rates of anemia, diarrheal diseases, and other illnesses caused by exposure to toxic contaminants.
How can this be? “Environmental deterioration was not supposed to occur under socialism,” Cuban-American researchers Sergio Díaz-Briquets and Jorge Pérez-López wrote in a detailed study of Cuba’s environmental legacy. “According to conventional Marxist-Leninist dogma, environmental deterioration was precipitated by the logic of capitalism and its relentless pursuit of profits.” Socialism, on the other hand, would avoid capitalism’s excesses. “Guided by ‘scientific’ principles, socialism’s goal was a classless and bountiful society,” they explained, “populated by men and women living in harmony with each other and the environment.”
But this was clearly not the case in the Soviet empire. Nor was it in Cuba, whose environmental record after decades of socialist control was described by Díaz-Briquets and Pérez-López as “far different from the utopian view.” The West, meanwhile, had not only the consumer goods that socialist societies lacked but also a cleaner environment.
One explanation for the disparity is that central planners, unlike markets, grossly misallocate resources, as a matter of routine. Energy prices, for example, were highly subsidized in the socialist economies of Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union. As a result, industrial production was far more energy-intensive throughout the socialist world than in Western European economies — five to ten times higher, according to one estimate — leading to more pollution. A 1992 World Bank study found that more than half of the air pollution in the former Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe could be attributed to subsidized energy pricing during this period.
A related problem was the fixation of socialist planners on heavy industry at the expense of the environment. “The singular dominant fact of the Soviet economic strategy,” Jeffrey Sachs has noted, “was the subordination of all human and economic goals to the development of heavy industry.” Industrial pollution from factories in Eastern Europe was so bad that Time described it as the region “where the sky stays dark.” Acid rain in Krakow severely damaged the city’s historic structures and buildings, some of which required renovations, and even corroded the faces of many centuries-old statues.
Of course, industry behind the Iron Curtain was anything but efficient, and central planning caused excessive use of natural resources. A 1991 study by Mikhail Bernstam found that market economies used about one-third as much energy and steel per unit of GDP as did socialist countries. Likewise, Polish economist Tomasz Zylicz found that the non-market economies of Central and Eastern Europe required two to three times more inputs to produce a given output than did Western European economies. (The former Soviet world, as well as China, also emitted several times more carbon per unit of GDP than the United States did — a trend that continues today.) Simply put, market economies make more with less and are therefore better for the environment.
Socialist planners, on the other hand, lack the knowledge necessary to rationally coordinate economic activity. Moreover, bureaucratic constraints make accurate price-setting impossible. In their 1989 book The Turning Point, Soviet economists Nikolai Shmelev and Vladimir Popov offered an illustrative example. To bolster the production of gloves, the Soviet government more than doubled the price it paid for moleskin. Warehouses soon filled with mole pelts, but glovemakers were unable to use them all, so many rotted. As the economists explained:
The Ministry of Light Industry has already requested Goskomtsen [the State Committee on Prices] twice to lower the purchasing prices, but “the question has not been decided” yet. And this is not surprising. Its members are too busy to decide. They have no time: besides setting prices on these pelts, they have to keep track of another 24 million prices. And how can they possibly know how much to lower the price today, so they won’t have to raise it tomorrow?
Therein lies a crucial flaw in socialist economic logic, and one that has real environmental consequences: Whereas a capitalist firm has ample incentive to act on such information to economize on the use of natural resources, socialist planners have no such motivation — Soviet bureaucracies, Shmelev and Popov noted, were “able only to correct the most obvious price disproportions several years after” they appeared — nor do they have the knowledge needed to accurately set millions of prices at once. And if there are no market prices to convey accurate information about the value of scarce natural resources, there is little chance of conserving them.
For shame! One is only supposed to judge the intentions of the central planners, not their results.
Socialism is bad for everyone and everything. Except of course the ruling class.
Well, not even them. The ruler of every communist state regularly bumped off underlings. Stalin was a past master at getting rid of potential rivals (20 million plus?). So was Mao (80 million plus?). Communism teaches that the most dangerous enemy is the internal one. The only individual who really benefits from communism is the ruler. Lesser lights may get temporary benefits, but their longevity is often very short. The ordinary person suffers deprivation, lack of freedom, and even starvation.
We should be marching along with the protesters…holding signs saying things like…
No Palm Oil for fuel…
No Corn (FOOD) for Fuel…
Affordable Eneregy NOW…
No burning the Carbon Sink Forests for fuel…
Carbon Free 24/7 Dispatchable Energy Now (Nuclear / Hydro)…
Just say NO to Unreliable Energy Sources…
Perfectly correct!
One author I want to read more of is Thomas Sowell
“Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”
My greatest fear, is the intellectuals know what the problem of central control is/was, and believe that with the integration of Amazon’s and Google’s data bases, central control will work. The servers at Amazon/Google will be able to figure out how many hammers we need to manufacture. Our overlords will rely on AI to solve the problems that occur when a market economy is replaced.
If AI were able to solve the problems caused by replacing a market economy, they could only do so by replicating what the market economy already does.
Government of the blockheads, by the blockheads, and for the blockheads. . .
Socialism, communism, managerialism = centralism whereunder the central controllers are selected by a system that is largely if not totally disconnected from an appropriate level of meaningfull feedback from the shop floor/coalface. Central control invents its own vocabulary and quantification rubric which suits its control over power and is optimised to that end, not to the betterment of the entity/organisation at issue.
The treatment of Peter Ridd by James Cook University is a case study that exemplifies the matter. It provides a narrative that crystallizes the issues and methods of the corruption of power and ambition in the manner of a Shakespearian tragedy. After all, the VC at JCU is an honourable woman and the JCU board are all honorable persons, are they not?
The important part of capitalism is the free market which is far better then centralized control for encouraging growth and prosperity. This is why capitalist countries have done so much better economically then Socialist countries.
Even for Socialist governments, having enough money to run the country is the number one priority and a weak economy means less money is available. Things like polluting the environment, the reckless destruction of entire ecosystems or exploiting natural resources in an environmentally hostile manner are all because such things have a positive impact on their otherwise weak economies. They just can’t afford to do any better.
Capitalism is a dynamically unstable system that is highly responsive to market conditions and expectations. It is optimally designed to mitigate runaway conditions (e.g. monopolies, monopolistic conditions) common to central/single planner (“expert”) systems, and smooth recurring perturbations (“evolution”) innate to organic processes.
Rather than dynamically unstable, chaotically dynamic towards a goal is more descriptive. Much like the climate system which is also chaotically dynamic, exceptionally stable and converges to a goal. In both cases, that goal is a steady state equilibrium matching its outputs to its inputs.
“Capitalism is a dynamically unstable system”
No. Absolutely not. It is the absence of a system. It is free trade, independent of constraints. Free trade is self stabilizing.
The term capitalism was invented by Marx as a pejorative of free trade.
I far prefer the term “Free Enterprise”. It more fully coneys the ability to create the goods and services traded.
As an unashamed proponent of the US “system” of free enterprise currently being reset by TRUMP! and the US military, think of the first Nuclear Aircraft Carrier, the USS Enterprise CVN 65. It is only one of a long history of US navel vessels with that name. True representatives of the US. Note there was even an HMS Enterprise. The third Ford class carrier is to be names Enterprise, the 3rd US carrier to have that name.
And don’t forget the Space Shuttle Enterprise, a test vehicle. I thought at the time that that was a mistake. The first operational shuttle should have been named Enterprise.
An of course USS Enterprise, NCC 1701, the future interstellar spacecraft. I hope there will be and intermediary interplanetary edition of a manned craft with that name, perhaps for the Mars mission. Just saying.
How exactly it is designed to mitigate runway conditions like monopoly?
Is there something changed on “too big to fail”?
Ah, but now you’re talking about the results of government interventions that disturb free trade, not about how free trade, by design, mitigates runaway conditions.
Absent government mandates that banks and other lending institutions provide mortgage loans to parties highly unlikely to pay their debts (which WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED absent the government meddling), there would not have been any such “failures” to begin with.
Dork alert in caption!
As history shows, Socialism is bad for the environment, freedom, business, living standards, social and technical development, economic growth, etc.
The US private sector spends $2 trillion/year (mostly wasted) in compliance costs for the mountains of US government rules, regulations and mandates, which is almost equivalent to the entire GDP of India…
Most of these compliance costs are imposed by the EPA, of which, most have little or no real cost/benefit affect…
The irony is that these excessive EPA compliance costs make US products uncompetitive, and force US manufactures to move production to countries without any real EPA compliance costs (like China), which severely hurts our industrial sector and actually INCREASES worldwide pollution emissions…
All EPA regulations should be determined by conducting careful cost/benefit analyses. Trump has massively cut regulations, which has drawn some manufacturers back to the US, but after he finishes his second term, Leftists will likely try reinstate most of the irrational EPA regulations he cut…
There is nothing more dangerous than Socialist zealots imposing their irrational beliefs on others against their will “for their own good”….
Problem is that Liberals Environmental scientists play a key role in society’s responses to environmental problems, and many of the studies they perform are intended ultimately to affect policy. The precautionary principle, proposed as a new guideline in environmental decision making, has four central components: taking preventive action in the face of uncertainty; shifting the burden of proof to the proponents of an activity; exploring a wide range of alternatives to possibly harmful actions; and increasing public participation in decision making. All of this cost money and the cost/benifit analysis incorporates these components.
The central problem of environmentalism:
The EPA can never stop promulgating more regulations, no matter how useless they are and how badly they wreck the economy.
It’s also the central problem with liberalism; when do you stop?
It’s the same with Health and Safety. They’re a business after all and every week their employees must find something to have a pretend panic attack over and ask the fetid over-abused question “But what if a small child..?”. This is just to maintain their own KPI’s and keep their jobs. Meantime it only gets harder for everyone around them, the business and employees. Health and Safety won’t be happy even if they successfully mandate to have small cages over the green “start” button so you can’t use the machine anymore.
As with Health and Safety, EPA’s mandate is to grow, never to be clawed back into a smaller institution after they’ve done a good job. They always manage to find something often bordering on the ridiculous and utterly dishonest to maintain their “business”.
Yup – It’s the problem with all bureaucracies – they live to grow and fester for their own benefit and to the detriment of everything else, ultimately – like a cancer.
“Zealous statesmen perhaps did more mischief than anything in the Galaxy–with the possible exception of procrastinating soldiers. That could indicate the fundamental difference between statecraft and war.”
― H. Beam Piper, Works of H. Beam Piper
Here is how socialism fails it takes away the rewards from those that perform and give them to those that don’t, with the government skimming off the top and handing out rewards to their friends that help keep them in power; thereby eliminating the incentive for folks to produce.
+100
It also demands the right to tell you what to think.
Orwell was not just a writer he was clearly a visionary. The ministry of truth now exists, it travels under the name of The United Nations.
Those who make the decisions are insulated from the consequences of those decisions.
They have no skin in the game.
They can live away from the poluted areas, eat and drink food imported from clean areas and never have to face the wrath of disadvantaged voters or shareholders.
It’s a good job that fossil fuels have been rebranded as ‘molecules of freedom’!
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/us-rebrands-fossil-fuels-as-molecules-of-freedom
We must stop calling welfare countries Socialist and it takes Capitalism to finance a welfare state. Cuba and Venezuela are probably the only true examples of Socialist states left standing. For now. Cuba is toying with Capitalistic changes but is still hard core Marxist and the citizens are paying the price. But after over a half a century most Cubans don’t remember the years of prosperity. Once vibrant economies gone in both countries.
Any state where government substantially tells industry how to operate, has strong socialist elements.
The title of the following article is very misleading: https://www.businessinsider.com/why-socialist-scandinavia-has-some-of-the-highest-inequality-in-europe-2014-10
The Scandinavian welfare states are actually very capitalistic. Among other places, it shows up in the income data. “The top 10% of wealth holders in three Nordic countries (Norway, Sweden and Denmark) hold between 65 and 69 per cent of those nations’ wealth.”
Somebody figured out that you really need a very productive economy to adequately finance a welfare state, as markl noted.
Don’t forget North Korea.
The article, while entirely correct so far as it goes, still does not identify the root cause for the destruction.
The fact is that any system of government that concentrates excessive power to a relatively small group of people in a central location is soon taken over by corruption. Socialism is only one of those systems.
This group does not care what happens in the hinterlands. In flyover country, if you will. So long as their environment is not damaged, there is no problem in their eyes.
The same thing is happening here in the United States, as power is concentrated in the coastal states. Vast areas of land covered over by solar arrays (whether PV or mirrors). Bird chopping windmills. Incompetent people breaching the containment of heavy metal laden water in an abandoned mine. The list is long.
It doesn’t have to be “excessive power”.
Any concentration of power will be targeted by those whose only goal is power.
All power corrupts, the more power, the bigger the corruption.
The crux problem in socialist societies is that there is no negative feedback on bad decisions.
There are punishments but they may be perverse. One of my favorite stories is about how all the Soviet trains moved at midnight.
At midnight, every railroad dispatcher sent all the trains in his district into the neighboring districts. That way he wouldn’t have to account for those trains.
While I certainly am not advocating socialism, I am not quite buying the thesis of the article. I’m not seeing how industrial practices of an earlier era can be compared to now. It seems to me that the stage of development of industrial practices at the time were bad for the environment. The consciousness we have now was not there for socialism to tap into. Socialism happened to be the controlling philosophy over those industrial practices at the time. Did socialism itself cause ineffective choices in how those industrial practices were universally applied? I’m not convinced that it did.
Maybe socialism caused a push to drive those industrial practices of the time at a higher rate, in an attempt to create enough resources to spread around, but is this the result of socialism, per se? I don’t know.
I just don’t know. Some clarification might help.
Central control slows advancement of technology. A factory has no incentive to use resources more efficiently if supply is subsidized. After ten years, technology in factories is 9 years behind the times.
SR
“It is said that there isn’t a single person who possesses the knowledge and skill required to make a pencil”
The premise behind “I, Pencil”, downloadable as an audiobook.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100620021238/http://fee.org/media/audiobooks/i-pencil-4/
Sorry. Seems you can’t download it but you can listen online.
The research referred to in the article was conducted in 1989 and 1992, and the comparisons being made were contemporary comparisons. The article does point out the inefficiency of central planning, which naturally results in more pollution. In the full version, it also addresses the lack of property rights in socialist countries, which ultimately protect the environment. Where property rights exist, neighbors will take a polluter to court and make them clean up their act. Not so much under socialism. Ultimately the State was responsible for the pollution and no Soviet citizen could sue the state and maintain their upright, breathing status.
History is so replete with examples of the inefficiency and failure of centralized planning, that I believe we can safely call it settled economic science. Even without the empirical evidence, however, it is pretty obvious why such a system would fail. The market is far too complex to be governed by a small group of people.
It is said that there isn’t a single person who possesses the knowledge and skill required to make a pencil from the natural Earth. It takes miners, lumberjacks, machinists, designers, smelters and…well…people who understand where erasers come from and what they are made of. And that is just one very simple product. Pencils get made because there is a large web of people doing their part to make a pencil happen. Each person makes decisions based on their knowledge of that one small part, steered by prices. Prices play the role of communication between all the desperate endeavours associated with pencil making, and bring them all together to make those pencils in the most efficient way possible.
Socialism (in practice) attempts to circumvent all of that efficient coordination and replace it with a bureaucrat who knows little about any part of the process, and then gives that bureaucrat hundreds or thousands of other products to oversee and coordinate. Who in their right mind would think that is a better way to get things done?
Socialism with a market based decision-making process (is that still socialism?) may have a chance at economic survival, but no system with central planning at its core has any chance of longevity.
Socialism is defined by centralized decision making. The difference lies in how much control and how critical the decisions.
Robert at 7:59
I’m not quite sure of the issue you raise – “industrial practices of an earlier era” – because, in the USA, the clean air movement started in the 1940s or before. The 2nd paragraph of the post mentions the conditions in the USSR and Eastern Europe in the 1980s. By then, US cities were getting cleaner by the year. Corrective practices were insisted upon by society – people, newspapers, politicians, and so on.
Apparently socialism had/has no means of forcing corrective practices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Donora_smog
“The Donora Smog was one of the incidents where Americans recognized that exposure to large amounts of pollution in a short period of time can result in injuries and fatalities. The event is often credited for helping to trigger the clean-air movement in the United States, . . . “
As I read the article, it compares resource use and environmental impact -or proxies thereof – between socialist and capitalist countries AT THE SAME TIME.
If your argument were correct, then both capitalist and socialist nations would have similar pollution levels, but the don’t. The only way that you argument *could* apply is in the sense that socialist countries remained industrially primitive for far longer….. and the most reasonable explanation for that is socialism and central planning.
So regardless of how you look at it, socialism is bad for the environment.
Yes, and deadly for people.
As I read the article, it compares resource use and environmental impact -or proxies thereof – between socialist and capitalist countries AT THE SAME TIME.
If your argument were correct, then both capitalist and socialist nations would have similar pollution levels, but the don’t. The only way that you argument *could* apply is in the sense that socialist countries remained industrially primitive for far longer….. and the most reasonable explanation for that is socialism and central plannin…..
So regardless of how you look at it, socialism is bad for the environment.
As economies and populations grew. Activities that didn’t call problems in small doses, started to create problems.
It wasn’t capitalism that caused environmental problems, it was growth. As proof of this, even those areas that lacked any capitalism saw the same problems.
The difference was that capitalistic societies were able to create the wealth and technology to solve the problems that their newfound wealth was creating. Socialist societies didn’t.
Okay, thanks, I think I’m getting it now.
Ignorance is a bitch.
Robert,
All the problems with collectivist type governments has to do with the nature of human beings. We are all flawed, we each have different goals, and everybody values things differently. Since our nature has not changed in centuries, there is absolutely no reason to believe that a few decades would make any difference at all.
I don’t believe our differences are “flaws.”
Nor do I. The three things I listed are different reasons why collectivist type governments fail (since they assume we are all virtuous and have the same goals and have the same values). When I said flaws, I mean things like dishonesty, cruelty, easily corrupted, etc. While we don’t all have the same flaws, we have some mix; nobody is perfect.
I spent my childhood in socialist east european country. And now in my 40s, I can honestly say there is absolutely no way you can advocate socialism.
From principle redistribution from success to fail is attenuating all progress in society.
It has self driving dampening effect on economy inevitably ending in total collapse, without exception.
Worse, I can say I can see this happening in former capitalistic countries like France, Germany and to some extent in the US (I lived and worked 4 years in CA).
Current social, leftist governments are always balancing on edge of crisis and collapse, leaching as much of economy as it is possible to not tear it down immediately.
Isn’t it all about the power in the end? It is getting kinda heavy out there…… right or wrong……
With respect to socialism, what is more important: the murder of many tens of millions of citizens in the USSR and Mao’s China or the destruction of their environment? Rusty hulks and dried sea-beds are all that remain after the bones of the dead have been consigned to the realms of non-existence.
There are 2 sorts of capitalism-free market and crony capitalism. The excesses of capitalism in terms of exploitation are far more likely from crony capitalism. Alas, free market (natural) capitalism is being blamed for the excesses of crony capitalism.
The distinction must be made to avoid the guilty blaming the innocent.
The word ‘crony’ negates the principles that define capitalism, so it has little relationship to capitalism at all. Crony Capitalism is more fascism-lite than it is capitalism. Free market capitalism is redundant. A free market is part of a capitalist system by definition. If the market ain’t predominantly free, it ain’t capitalism.
The left has no desire to make the distinction, because they are guilty and want to blame the innocent. That is their goal.
Crony capitalism is socialism.
Capitalism is when individuals decide for themselves.
Socialism is when government decides for everyone. Without socialism, crony capitalists have no power to affect anything.
Crony capitalism is fascism. The cooperation of government and business.
Calling it capitalism doesn’t make it capitalism.
Shawn Regan,
Excellent article! Thank You!
RE: “Socialist planners, on the other hand, lack the knowledge necessary to rationally coordinate economic activity.”
We see this in evidence yet again, as the oil rich nation of Venezuela economically succumbs to the failing socialist administration there.
Bummer. Regan just shattered my firm belief that we could happily follow North Korea’s example.
Yesterday’s centrally planned socialist economy had no way to account for the value of things. Planning sounds OK in principle: we get our spreadsheets (or accountants) out and figure out how much something will cost to make. In practice it’s all about politics and political deals.
In practice, no factory could surely rely on another because there was no good quality control; which the market gives capitalism for free. For example: a plant assembles cars. It needs body-making, engines, transmission, tires, seats, glass screens, etc. If one supplier doesn’t deliver, say seats, the soviet assembly plant would try making its own, as well as assemble. Another example: the public couldn’t rely on collective agriculture keeping supermarkets full; so many workers would try to get an allotment to grow their own food. That kind of think wrecked havoc with timekeeping at their official job! The whole trashes “economy of scale”; which is one reason today’s market economies are so much more productive than yesterday’s.
Tomorrow’s socialism will be different to the past. They will keep the market but deform it with ever sillier subsidy, directives and taxes. It will be more central directive plus MMT = Modern Monetary Theory; better known as “Magic Money Tree”. One of the sad consequences of the GFC is today’s socialist economists have even more faith in printing money than yesterdays’. They want to “invest in” masses of green energy infrastructure and pay for it by printing money. As if the Chinese, who supply it, are interested in getting even more MMT-dollar debt! Tomorrows socialism will be another environmental disaster; but with a different flavour than yesterdays.
Socialism Is bad for the Environment and is even worse for the population.
Good point!
The difference between socialism and capitalism is clear. They are better described as totalitarianism versus freedom.
Socialism’s/totalitarianism prime objective, is to maintain socialism. No amount of effort is spared in that objective. It will persist while resources are available to maintain the objective. The spiral towards poverty and failure is baked into the principles advanced by socialists.
Capitalism/freedom’s prime objective is wealth creation and liberation of the innate skills within society.
Capitalism/freedom is core to human evolution. People strive to improve their personal well being and their security.
Socialism can only exist by removing the freedom to choose.
Capitalism exists because people have the freedom to choose.
As Winston Churchill once said, “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Under capitalism, the only way to get rich is to provide goods/services that people want to buy.
The only way to get people to want to buy is to have goods/services that either cheaper or better than the ones already on the market. (Yes, there is marketing, but most marketing only informs consumers of options, it can’t force anyone to buy your product.)
If your stuff is no good, people won’t buy from you again.
There have been already retailers in zaristic Russia — compare nowadays Hudson Company:
“Kunst and Albers (German: Kunst und Albers, Russian: Кунст и Альберс) or Kunst & Albers was a German trading company in Russia.
Founded by Gustav Kunst, a merchant, and Gustav Albers, a sailor, it operated the first department store in Vladivostok. At its height, it was a vast business empire and the largest trading company in the Russian Far East.[1]”
WWI destroyed merchandise in Russia:
“By 1914, Kunst & Albers had 32 branch stores. World War I brought an end to the flow of merchandise from Germany. Multiple publications spread the rumour that the firm was operating a German spying network, the main source of such rumours being the publicist Ferdynand Antoni Ossendowski. In the 1950s, George F. Kennan wrote that: “it is doubtful whether the history of journalism could produce another instance of such a violent and prolonged personal vendetta.”[5]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunst_and_Albers
Yes, compared with what I’ve seen with my own eyes in industrial regions of the USSR, most of the territories in western countries are green paradise. Simply moving from the USSR to Austria on the train was like being transferred from the black-and-white, mostly dirty gray movie to the bright, colorful, different planet.
Only… one really need to think about the meaning of the term “socialsm.” Sweden, for example, is a predominantly socialist country. Yes, there are private property and private companies but the whole system of government there is clearly on the socialist side. Meanwhile, while the USSR contained some superficial features of socialism, it was mostly a feudal dictatorship masquerading as a socialist society.
It’s a pertinent observation that the majority of casualties from the Chernobyl nuclear disaster were not from exposure to radiation, but from increased mortality amongst those forcibly evacuated from the countryside surrounding the nuclear plant, to the grossly polluted cities.
Not sure you’re right about Sweden. The country has rigorous, well-enforced laws protecting property rights.
In Scandinavia it´s different kind of “socialism”?
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/national-review-williamson-bernie-sanders-sweden/
Sweden is a welfare state sitting on a capitalist society.
Totalitarianism is the only way to implement full socialism.
What is (barely) possible in countries with relatively ethnically homogeneous population is decisively impossible in omnigenous “melting pots” of the USA or Russian Federation.
“Consider the destruction of the Aral Sea between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, which has been called “one of the planet’s worst environmental disasters.” Once the world’s fourth-largest inland body of water, it shrank to less than half its original size because of Soviet economic policies.”
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Over geological times sea level of aral sea oscillated from 0 to some 100 feet –
WITHOUT HUMAN INFLUENCE:
https://www.google.com/search?q=aral+sea+sea+level+geological+times&oq=aral+sea+sea+level+geological+times&aqs=chrome.
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Commerce and production has to be measured like climate – over decades to centuries to …
So, in your opinion. The diversion of water flowing into the Aral Sea had nothing to do with it’s drop in size? Over geological time, rainfall over the watershed that fed the Aral Sea changed dramatically as the world’s climate changed. What in your opinion has changed in the climate that caused the change to the Aral Sea?
A century ago, most people were still riding horses. A few decades ago nobody had smart phones. What’s this nonsense about measuring commerce and production over decades to centuries?
On geological time scales this happened in an instant. That doesn’t seem natural to me, Johann.
Rivers to Aral Sea were turned to irrigate cotton fields. That was manmade disaster. And it was like an eyeblink compared geological timescales.
The EPA like all Bureaucracies exists by maintaining the taxpool and by extension, their livelihoods within its comfortable confines. They are quite happy to entertain the running of all society off Taxation. They know little else in a practical sense.
A political system is only as good as it’s trustworthiness and the skill base of those who maintain it. Increasingly they are regulating free enterprise out of existence and allocating access to resources to “Taxable” crony corporates that are amenable to the umbrella of Government oversight….. This was Mussolini’s economic plan for Fascism.
The Free market is no longer all that “Free”. It’s increasingly becoming a slave to bureaucratic regulations and interference. We can’t trust these people with our money or our freedom anymore. They waste both.
To Aral sea sea levels compare anatolian Van sea sea levels geological times :
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung&ei=QH3vXOvzDNeEk74P8smd4AI&q=Van+sea+sea+level+geological+times&oq=Van+sea+sea+level+geological+times&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.
An American historian once said:
When you travel through the Balkan and ask e.g. an albanian farmer “why are you so poor”
he answers
“Because for centuries we had to fight the osman empire”
And when you travel through Turkey and ask an anatolian farmer “why are you so poor”
he answers
“Because for centuries we had to conquer Europe”.
And the relevance of this is …?
Easy excuses for incompetent governments. Relevance to this thread is about nil.