An End… and a New Direction

Guest Editorial: Dr. Tim Ball

I thought about making this my last article on climate for this or any other website except my own. I planned the action some time ago, but it was the recent headline in the Telegraph that triggered this penultimate move. It said, “Climate change is a risk investors can’t ignore: Black Rock latest to sound the alarm on environment.”

Climate change is not a risk factor. Current climate and climate changes are normal and well within the pattern of change over history, certainly the last 10,000 years. The world believes otherwise, despite efforts by me and others to make the correct information available.

This means that after 50 years (1968-2019) of trying to educate the public about the weather, global warming, and climate change I achieved little or no change in understanding, attitude, or most importantly, policy on the world stage. My attempts to counter the massive deception that began as human-caused global warming (AGW) and later shifted to human-caused climate change, fell short. The deception is now what people accept, although they don’t necessarily believe. Because of that it is now the underlying reason for all policy on energy and environment that are the mainstay of these business-world views, indeed all views.

The only risk is not climate, but the one that governments created by the pseudoscience of climate science. All elements of society from energy to the environment and from industry to business and daily living are based on completely unnecessary and expensive limitations. The sad irony is that the climate change risk the investors face is a shift to colder weather when all governments are warning them to prepare for warmer conditions. This false basis for society thinking and planning is so pervasive that it is unlikely to change.

I am frustrated by the success of the deception, but I am angry about the waste of time, money, and opportunities lost. I think about the trillions wasted on a non-existent problem while real problems go wanting. For example, it is likely that enough money was wasted to provide clean water and adequate sewage for the entire world.

Apart from my overall failure, there was one failure restricted to the skeptics that might create different results. Skeptics are people who recognized the false science used to create the threat of human-caused global warming. It’s a group that slowly grew in numbers over the years but achieved little impact in the wider community. A major reason is the division of that community into approximately 15% who are competent and comfortable in science and 85% who are not. While I achieved some recognition in this group of skeptics, I failed to convince them that the wider public would never understand climatology. Worse, I failed to convince them that even if they could identify all the bad science, manipulation of data, creation of false and misleading reports, and deliberate exaggeration of stories to amplify fear that they wanted, it would do little to spread the truth and correct the story. I failed to convince the skeptics that without explanation of the MOTIVE, people would not listen to their critiques and warnings.

Recently, I received the charge through my web site that I was just “another conspiracy theorist.” Other attempts to marginalize included the term global warming skeptic or climate change denier. These were effectively what I call collective ad hominems, but the fall back dismissal was usually that you are a ‘conspiracy theorist.’

It is encouraging that a recent article appeared on the WUWT website that proposes a motive for the misuse of climate.

But the Left seeks far more. In fact, its goal is nothing less than total control of every aspect of human life, which we call “totalitarianism”, justified by fear of climate change.

The types of commentary that article will engender are predictable. They will indicate why people have not considered motive in the discussion to date. It is a classic Catch 22 you must provide a motive and marginalized or don’t provide one and get no traction with the wider public. It is critical to remember that you are asking people to believe that a small group of people managed to deceive the world into believing that a trace gas (0.04% of the total atmosphere) was changing the entire climate because of humans. In addition, that group convinced many others to participate in the deception. The public view is that deceiving so many is just not possible. The trouble is it was possible. To paraphrase Lincoln, they effectively fooled most of the people and marginalized the few not fooled.

After 50 years of combating hysteria over climate change, it is time to take a new direction. I say a new direction because the last 50 years attempted to educate the people to the lie that is human-caused global warming and effectively changed nothing. It especially did not change the unnecessary, ineffective, and massively expensive energy and environment policies that control everything in the world. When I see a car advertisement identifying its low CO2 output as a major selling feature, I know how badly I lost. Millions of more people now believe in AGW than when I began. Now, most governments believe and act on the AGW belief compared to the few when I started.

The first 10 years of the 50 involved dealing with the threats about the end of the world due to global cooling. The last 40 years dealt with the same threats about warming. In recent years, I used the quote from Lowell Ponte’s 1976 book The Cooling to illustrate how similar they were.

It is cold fact: the global cooling presents humankind with the most important social, political, and adaptive challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years. Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children, our species.

Change the seventh-word “cooling” to warming, and it applies to the entire 50 years. What happens going forward? What are governments preparing for? Is it appropriate? Are we victims of the adage that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing? Will governments prove once again that they always make a situation worse?

In the 1970s I knew that the cooling trend would end because it fit the overall pattern. This included the longer-term emergence from the nadir of the Little Ice Age circa 1680 and shorter cycles since. The world warmed from 1900 to 1940, cooled from 1940 to 1980, warmed from 1980 to 1998 and has cooled slightly from 1998 to the present.

Fortunately, the idiots we call leaders did nothing about the climate when cooling was the trend in the 1970s. Unfortunately, after the 1980s they began to succumb to the lies, misrepresentations, and pressure of the eco-bullies; those who used the environment and later climate for a political agenda. We needed the paradigm shift to environmentalism because it doesn’t make sense to soil our own nest. However, as with all such shifts, a few seized it for the power and financial rewards it provided. They were able to obtain power up to the UN General Assembly. They introduced the full environment and climate change plans at the Earth Summit conference in Rio de Janeiro in 1992 as Agenda 21.

The movement appeared to falter at the international level when even Greenpeace announced that Rio +20 was a failure. This was not a falter but exactly as Maurice Strong and the proponents of Agenda 21 planned. The entire objective of Agenda 21 is firmly ensconced in all societies through the municipal level of government.

The climate plan that isolated and demonized CO2 through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was designed and implemented at the national level through every weather office in nations throughout the world. This puts the idea and control of those countries almost completely in the hands of the deep state and beyond the control of international and national politicians. They then promote the concepts of the environmental and climate plans through the Climate Action Plan imposed at the Municipal level. This puts the original plan of thinking globally and acting locally into practice at the lowest political level. A conference in San Francisco in July 2018 explains the objective.

California Governor Jerry Brown has announced that a Global Climate Action summit will be held in San Francisco in September 2018, in a challenge to President Donald Trump’s plan to withdraw the United States from the Paris climate accord.

Nearly 200 nations have signed the 2015 agreement to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, which are widely thought to be responsible for rising temperatures, and Brown is one of a number of local and regional leaders working to build coalitions without Trump.

Here is what one mayor wrote about what occurred in San Francisco.

The Global Climate Action summit in San Francisco began on Wednesday. This year’s goal: “Take Ambition to the Next Level.”

What is that next level? As part of the We Are Still In, Mayors Climate Alliance, and other city climate-action efforts, many U.S cities are creating their first ever climate-action plans; others are rewriting theirs to meet more ambitious goals. The next level is ensuring that these multi-year plans integrate equity considerations or risk perpetuating an unjust life for millions of already marginalized Americans.

The original intention of the CO2 pseudoscience deception was purely political as this quote confirms. Note the word “equity.” It confirms quotes that were around before the deception reached the world stage. Former US Senator Timothy Wirth who went on to head the UN Climate Foundation said,

We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing, in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

Former Canadian Environment Minister Christine Stewart said,

“No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits…. climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

What those quotes really mean is that we must use the climate for total political and economic control. If people continue to buy the false science story so much the better. For example, on April 13, 2019, US Presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren promised,

Besides an executive order barring new fossil fuel leases on public lands on shore and offshore, Warren said Monday that she would work toward boosting U.S. electricity generation from renewable sources offshore or on public lands.

This is planned despite the failure of such actions everywhere they are applied.

The climate deception and the climate debate are complete and, though they will continue, they are irrelevant. The Paris Climate Agreement is almost dead. At the 2018 meeting of the Green Climate Fund, the Director resigned.

Howard Bamsey, an Australian diplomat who served as the GCF’s executive director since January 2017, resigned after a “difficult” meeting in which no new projects were approved, according to a statement released after the gathering in Songdo, South Korea.

There are many charges and warnings of corruption and misuse of funds against GCF. The institutions associated with climate change at the international and national level are collapsing. It creates an illusion that the skeptics are winning. It distracts from the fact that the entire focus quietly shifted to the municipal level and is infiltrating through the world. Much of the funding for the San Francisco meeting came from the World Bank.

I agree with the author who claims the misuse of climate was originally a left-wing agenda for control. However, I think the idea is so attractive because it is under the cloak of ‘saving the planet’ that it fits the platform of all politicians. They all want control. The only difference is in the degree and method. Of course, the ultimate irony is that the massive cost of this anti-CO2 system is only possible because of the one thing it demonizes, fossil fuels.

As a result of this train of events, I decided to stop trying to educate people about the global deception that is AGW. It is a firmly established false fact. Most skeptics know this because many are stunned by the strong hostile reaction they get when they state their position publicly. In many cases, they become ostracized in their family. The challenge now is to help people understand the differences between deceptively derived policies, and what is the best, most adaptive, most profitable, and most rewarding strategy for survival of the individual, business, or industry. In this age of the big lie, survival and success strategy is more important and challenging than ever. I want to help people bridge the gap between the false world of government and the real world. I will not achieve that through explaining the corrupted science but providing a credible motive.

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April 20, 2019 6:31 pm

Dr. Ball, please don’t for a minute think that your efforts were unappreciated, or even worse, ineffective!

YOU HAVE BEEN TEACHING THE TEACHERS.

Jim Hansen took advantage of an upswing the natural cycles of temperature, allowing the left leaning MSM and politicians to use that as an opportunity to promote a global ideology, using emotion not data, as their ally. You were fighting a rising tide for much of your battle.

In the long game, I think DATA, actual observation, will eventually prevail if we persist (At 78, I may have to hand the baton off).

Despite the indoctrination of public education, I believe human intellect will force people as they mature, to understand that the end of the world has not occurred, and the draconian measure proscribed were not necessary, especially if we keep putting observations in the forefront.

I sense the “Consensus” team are already looking for “escape” explanations for an avenue out.

There is a paradox that as nations and economies develop, there is a tendency to reject capitalism, which is what got them to where they are (including uplifting the poorest compared to other current systems), in favor of Socialism and its big brother Globalism.

We WILL prevail and it was because as Isaac Newton quoted: “We were standing on the shoulders of Giants“.

Thank you.

April 20, 2019 6:33 pm

“Apart from my overall failure”

I believe you need to watch “It’s a wonderful life” with Jimmy Stewart again; and perhaps you need a Clarence.

Instead, consider what the world would be like if the lies of alarmists were not countered?

“Recently, I received the charge through my web site that I was just “another conspiracy theorist.”

* Completely overlooking the fact that several elitist billionaires actively fund online disinformation campaigns and fake alarmists.
* Others are simply deluded believers who do not have another life besides online trolling.
* Lastly, there are many whose jobs are dependent upon the CAGW scam continuing.
* If $1 Trillion dollars is spent globally on CAGW, then it behooves those dependent upon CAGW continuing to devote all of their grant funds and time promoting alarmism.

“It’s a group that slowly grew in numbers over the years but achieved little impact in the wider community. A major reason is the division of that community into approximately 15% who are competent and comfortable in science and 85% who are not.”

No competence in science is necessary. All it takes to rebut alarmists are simple questions.
* Why hasn’t either pole melted away as predicted?
* Why do temperatures seem the same ones I grew up with.
* In spite of alarming news articles, NOAA proves that storms are not more frequent nor more violent.
* No animals are dying from climate change. Polar Bears, whales and penguins are thriving.
* Oceans are not warming. SST temperatures are restricted to surface waters that were basically unmeasured until recently. NOAA’s fake ocean increase measured in joules works out to less than instrument capability.
etc. etc. etc.

While these arguments do not convince deluded or employment dependent alarmists; no argument will! These arguments do introduce doubt into ordinary citizens. Especially those citizens who can still ask their grandparents about the depression era.

Johann Wundersamer
April 20, 2019 6:36 pm

“recent headline in the Telegraph that triggered this penultimate move. It said, “Climate change is a risk investors can’t ignore: Black Rock latest to sound the alarm on environment.”
___________________________________________________

what can black rock do. a hedge fund is committed to its investors.

as investors are attracted by the “morally superior” image there’s always the risk of declining returns from potential losses:

real world evidence of what is feasible and what turns out to be wishful thinking, make believe.

Editor
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
April 21, 2019 12:45 am

So Black Rock thinks it can ride the CAGW wave to greater profit. I readily concede that they are far greater investment experts than I am, but it seems to me that they are too late. The wave is surely near its peak, green projects are starting to go bust, public pushback against carbon taxes (a feedstock of green projects) appears to be strengthening, and decline for green investments in future is starting to look more likely than strong growth.

BTW, I’m up 200% on my coal shares. Black Rock may know a lot more than I do, but sometimes I reckon I know enough.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike Jonas
April 21, 2019 7:22 am

“BTW, I’m up 200% on my coal shares.”

200 percent ain’t bad! Good for you! Good choice! 🙂

April 20, 2019 6:37 pm

eugenics

u.k.(us)
April 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Things you can do if you really put your minds to it:

Harry Passfield
Reply to  u.k.(us)
April 21, 2019 9:52 am

As I once heard an American say, searching for a superlative: “That’s awesomer!”

jrchips
Reply to  u.k.(us)
April 21, 2019 10:24 am

Many years ago I was an apprentice with Rolls-Royce. One of my favorite grunt jobs was taking manometer readings in the test beds when they were running full power tests on military jet engines. Full afterburners are awesome indeed.

Dave's not here
April 20, 2019 7:20 pm

It tends to be that when on the precipice of a win, things tend to look the most lost. The increasing rhetoric of climate change, while discouraging on it’s face, indicated the foundation is getting ever more unstable, thus needs reinforcements from the top. So I think you drastically underestimate the effects you’ve had.

April 20, 2019 7:24 pm

Tim,

You’re on the right track.

Providing facts, reality, well-reasoned logic will not win this battle.

Understanding our opponents’, their belief system, their strategy and their tactics is the first step toward winning. You’ve been slowly taking that first step.

Politically Correct Progressives’ belief system is what we are up against.

It was created, beginning in the 1920s, to destroy Normal American culture.

The genius who conceived of, and created the operation that planted this toxic belief system in our culture targeted the transmission belts of American culture: the media, Hollywood, and education/academia.

He created the message of hatred, and he created the tactics to spread the hatred, and to make the hatred “cool.” He created what he called Innocents Clubs, funded them, and proliferated them. Today these hate-mongers include Greenpeace, SPLC, and others.

The beliefs he created were: America is a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, imperialist, capitalist hell-hole. And it must be changed.

The operation was successful. It took 80 years, but it now is the dominant cultural force in the USA.

It is based on hatred of everything that made America successful and a beacon of hope for the world. Their goal is to destroy America.

“Global warming” is just one manifestation of PC-Progs’ destruction.

You’re on the right track. Keep up the journey, and fight the good fight.

Here’s a short video that might help:

http://willingaccomplices.com/willing_accomplices/videos

April 20, 2019 7:31 pm

Why end? Start all over again.

New people have been born. New people have never seen competent treatments of the subject, and they need to.

Maybe this is the start of a period that WILL have greater effect, and you are ending right at the pivotal moment.

Take a break, … chill a bit, … refresh, and get back to it.

I appreciate your disciplined, competent, informed, civil treatments.

Tony Anderson
April 20, 2019 7:38 pm

As Roosevelt said “We have nothing to fear but fear itself!” And the climate alarmists trade on fear not on scientific facts. It is why the Democrats are trying, trying to bring down Trump. The sooner he establishes his proposed committee to verify the science or otherwise about climate change the better.
If we continue along the path of fear, Western civilization has not progress from when we first left the caves or acted like the builders of the Tower of Babel.
I can only wish that an Australian government will set up a committee such as the one Trump proposed, but I hold little hope, as we jump off the cliff, talking about carbon credits (and who would trade with Australia as we provide negligible CO2 emissions anyway), as Australia takes on a virtuous stance to save the planet.
Long may climate change denialist live.

accorduonsrule
April 20, 2019 7:49 pm

I listened to a huge, huge investor make the virtual signaling decision of divesting from oil and gas, and the reasoning was the fund was doing so terrific, what the heck, we can afford to take the hit of a couple percentage points. So in a sense, the booming economy is being an enabler of climate change alarmism. Ironic, isn’t it?
Nevada’s idiot leguslature this week made it a law that the state would get 50% of its energy from sun, wind, bio and geo by 2030. Existing hydro excluded. It’s not even possible to do a geothem project from exploration to production in 10 years, but since the fines and penalties for failure go right into the general fund, it’s a big win either way. Works? Great, tax money from new licenses. Doesn’t work? Even better, fines and penalties out the yazoo.
Watching our industrialized economy get deconstructed with the stroke of a pen is like watching the cathedral burn. 100 years in the making, reduced to rubble in 24 hours. But while some people are mourning the loss of a symbol of man’s spirituality and an archtectural marvel, others are celebrating the destruction of the symbol of an oppressive religion and a useless relic of the past.
This is a chasm deeper and wider than will ever be bridged, I fear.
While I’m on a rant, another Nevada bill will require public and private schools to institute a sun protection awareness program and allow schoolkids to wear sunscreen or a hat in the sun. This is the kind of micromanagement that appeals to the Big Government People. Public Service Announcements won’t do, they gotta have a law on the books pertaining to sunscreen. smh

April 20, 2019 7:54 pm

I sense the start of a paradigm shift in Western consciousness itself.
We no longer believe even Big Lies.

The unthinkable thought is that people in politics, in the media, and in the corporate world are not actually interested in the truth, because truth wins no votes, sells no product, attracts no advertising revenue.., but are instead only interested in what people can be persuaded is true. Truth is mundane and boring. Emotional narratives are captivating and emotionally satisfying

This works brilliantly with fuzzy imponderables like what gender you really are if you find yourself fondling your nips instead of your balls one morning, or wondering what it would like to have a penis instead of a pussy, but its no damned good when it comes to supplying real solutions to real problems, like how to make sure civilisation is kept running so all the air heads can have thoughts like these instead of ‘why hasn’t my turd flushed down the toilet today?’

Ideally you have this muppet show of a political farce where unreal issues are discussed with all the gravitas of a led zeppelin with uranium ballast, whilst engineers get on with actually keeping things running.
But now when they start fiddling with energy production and making it into a political football, and profiteering on the back of it, that is too far gentlemen, and you have to stop that.

It’s not about science. It’s about public consciousness and the view the public has of the political, media and corporate class and how much they trust and believe in them and what they decide to do about it.

We are losing faith in our ‘leaders’. And they have only themselves to blame. The next questions is what shall we do about it?

Kim
April 20, 2019 8:11 pm

All is not lost. Many people on the ground don’t believe in CAGW. And the world is moving politically and demographically Conservative and sceptical. The ranks of the sceptics are certainly swelling thanks in part to all the extreme left wing politics and thanks to the facts on the ground. We are also, with the Internet, going through a similar situation to the invention of the printing press. Then, as now, authoritative sources were displaced and replaced by more reliable localised sources. The Internet allows the arguments to be made by anyone and the facts to speak for themselves. Sure a lot of money has been wasted. But, hopefully, it will be a lesson learned for future generations – “granddad you believed in that nonsense?”.

Spuds
April 20, 2019 8:14 pm

Unfortunately influential entertainers like Howard Stern have a large audience believing the hoax …if you challenge Howard, you are belittled and essentially “toast”. Of course, Howard is one of biggest hypocrites out there when he by being a multi millionaire must be chauffeured to work (only a few blocks) and everywhere else in a gas guzzling SUV and owns several large and inefficient homes, especially one out in the Hamptons on Long Island which would be in the crosshairs of “climate change”.
Therefore, our society is lost.

Ryan Welch
April 20, 2019 8:31 pm

Marshall McLuhan famously said, “The Medium is the Message.” What that means is that the medium you use to convey information influences people more than the information transmitted.

The truth is only losing because we are not using the best medium. While I have not invested 50 years into a losing battle as Mr. Ball laments, I have been involved long enough to recognize that skeptics are great at using math, words, and graphs on paper and in text on websites, but we are not great at producing videos. Generation X and Millennials watch videos to get their information, they don’t read dry blogs where people discuss the error bars of a graph or interpolation of data points. The don’t read about retracted papers that achieved their political goals regardless of the bed science that produced the paper.

If we are to retain freedom and defend truth against those who admit they are willing to lie to achieve an agenda, then we must “out-G the G” (Col. Hackworth). We must out-guerrilla the guerrilla. We must do what they are doing first and better, and we have an advantage, because we have the truth and the truth always wins……eventually.

We must saturate the media with daily videos debunking their lies daily and hit them first with daily videos that forces them to respond to us. We must take the initiative and one we have it, never give it back until their agenda for power disguised as a call to “save the planed” is utterly defeated.

That is why I am back in college at the age of 53 to obtain a degree in mass media. Once I graduate, in December, I plan on using my new skills to turn the tide against the steady stream of lies and doomsday predictions. I am fully committed, the lives of my children and grandchildren depend on it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ryan Welch
April 21, 2019 7:33 am

“Once I graduate, in December, I plan on using my new skills to turn the tide against the steady stream of lies and doomsday predictions. I am fully committed, the lives of my children and grandchildren depend on it.”

Good for you and us, Ryan. Thanks for giving us a glimpse of your fighting spirit! 🙂

SAMURAI
April 20, 2019 9:35 pm

I totally disagree.

The disparity between CAGW’s global warming model projections vs. reality (UAH6.0/Radiosonde data), and ALL other predictions on: Sea Level Rise, ocean acidification, extreme weather frequency/intensity, Polar land/sea ice disappearance, etc., are hilariously devoid from reality.

Things will only get worse for the CAGW Delusion as the PDO/AMO/NAO are all in (or soon will be) their respective 30-year cool cycles. Moreover, a 50-year Grand Solar Minimum event just started, which will likely add to global cooling.

Within 5 years, actual global temp anomalies will be so devoid from CAGW projections, the entire CAGW scam will be laughed at.

Once the inane CAGW hypothesis is finally tossed on to the trash heap of history, the blowback against the Left will be epic for wasting $10’s of trillions on the CAGW Hoax for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

April 20, 2019 9:39 pm

Dr Ball
Don’t go
We need you………

Alexander Feht
April 20, 2019 9:45 pm

Alas, I think Dr. Ball is exactly right. Playing with graphs and numbers, however scientifically correct, is not going “to win hearts and minds” of the poorly educated, emotionally motivated people who want to think of themselves as being better than hard-working achievers just because they are “right-thinking progressives.”

Until radical green policies would result in a real, obvious social catastrophe, it is futile to expect that these people would understand the huge danger of the environmentalists’ lies. As a Russian proverb goes, “a peasant doesn’t cross himself until a thunder strikes.”

Wim Röst
April 20, 2019 9:55 pm

Dr. Tim Ball: “I want to help people bridge the gap between the false world of government and the real world.”

WR: That is what is needed to be done. But it is a difficult task as well. As ’emotions’ rule the masses nobody is listening, nobody is arguing. Present behavior is like the behavior of horses in a herd of horses that went crazy: no horse is using his brains anymore, not even his eyes. Every horse just does do ‘what other horses do’. Emotions rule.

I watched several times this video of horses that went mad after only one started. People’s frightened reactions helped: it became a mess. See: https://youtu.be/qufkvD5V9V4?t=4

This craziness is what the masses are in now. It is all emotions.

We need to tell the real story about the Earth’s climate. About how climate really works. So far you did a wonderful job. I am sure you will find a good way to continue.

LittleOil
April 20, 2019 10:02 pm

Dear Dr Ball,

I have read and saved many of your postings over the years.
Do not underestimate your contribution. You have enabled me to argue the sceptical case and win frequently.

I am most grateful for your wise contributions.

I have one last request. I think there is a need for a brief guide to climate change and a related more detailed guide for those that want more. Such a publication could be distributed easily and might open the eyes of believers.

I suggest you enlist readers to help in the structure and edit the text.

If it would help you I can make a donation towards your time.

Warm Regards, you have already made a difference!!

n.n
April 20, 2019 11:28 pm

Do what you can, when you can, if you can, within reason. Remember your family, and set priorities accordingly. That said, your integrity, sacrifice, and courage are noted. The desire to share knowledge and skill is a worthy endeavor. Good luck to you. Good luck to us. May the observations, replications, and deductions in a scientific frame of reference prevail over diverse interests clamoring for capital, control. and leverage.

Izaak Walton
April 20, 2019 11:35 pm

It would appear that no one here seems to have noticed that Tim Ball has claimed that
85% of you are too stupid to understand the physics of climate change. Why am I not
surprised…

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Izaak Walton
April 21, 2019 7:43 am

“It would appear that no one here seems to have noticed that Tim Ball has claimed that
85% of you are too stupid to understand the physics of climate change.”

We didn’t notice because Tim Ball didn’t say that.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 21, 2019 10:08 pm

Tom,
He stated that “a major reason is the division of that community into approximately 15% who are competent and comfortable in science and 85% who are not”. Which is the same thing as saying
that 85% if skeptics are incompetent and uncomfortable in science. So if you would prefer to be
called incompetent rather than stupid then that is fine with me.

April 20, 2019 11:45 pm

Thank Dr Ball for all that you have contributed. I imagine there must be plenty of people you have inspired to pick up the torch and continue the fight. As many of the commenters rightly point out, the rhetoric is currently at fever pitch. This may actually suggest we are closer to an end than we know. “It is darkest before the dawn” is a fitting quote.

Endure
The darkness just before the dawn,
Gives no reason for hope forlorn.
Facing off my westing shroud,
Blue faith cuts though my coldest cloud.
The warmth, the faintest of all glows,
Warns off the darkness from my foe’s.
Stay firm, in spite of all the fears,
For those will fall, as darkness clears.
RGB

Luc Ozade
April 20, 2019 11:45 pm

Dr Ball, please don’t throw in the towel. Changing the minds of so many was never going to be easy. But your contribution over the years has been incalculable. You cannot know how many you have helped to persuade. What you said about restricting your future posts to your own website carries little merit.

I believe it is every sceptics duty to stand firm and spread the truth about AGW as far and as wide as they possibly can and for as long as they have breath in their bodies. To simply throw one’s hands in the air and say “Well, I did all I could and made no difference” is not an option. Just think – how many people you reach on WUWT (384 million people, and counting) and compare that with the stats for your own website.

With every year that passes (and no significant change takes place in climate-related matters) is a year nearer to the public slowly realising how much they have been hoodwinked. I believe we ARE winning and things are coming to a head, as the alarmists get ever more desperate.

I reiterate previous comments I have made in thanking you for your so-valuable contributions but fervently plead for you to continue. With your credentials, what you say carries enormous weight PLUS, I might add, a responsibility to never give up. Thank you.

Rod Evans
April 20, 2019 11:54 pm

Tim,
It is only through people such as you, people with credentials in climate science, people with credentials in physics and the scientific method, that the lies and false scares pushed into the mainstream media and promoted by the main stream media can be challenged.
Do not underestimate the growing awareness of what is real science versus what is faux science. You and so many others who have not been prepared to be silenced by the nonsense of Mann Made Climate change are winning the arguments. You are winning and true science is the victor. The pseudo science pushed by the Al Gores, Hansens, Attenboroughs and others supported by the public purse are losing and they know they are, which is why the uptick in street demo’s by so called Green activists is happening.

Do not stop what you are doing Tim, the world needs good men to stand up and not be silenced. We need to have faith in true science. The political dimension will always exist, and yes we will have to get more political but not at the expense of science.

Reply to  Rod Evans
April 21, 2019 10:00 am

Well said Rod !!!

goldminor
April 21, 2019 1:04 am

Nature will back us up, Dr Ball. We will be vindicated with the passage of time.