New app delivers automated local weather feeds on Bitcoin SV chain

From COINGEEK

A new app has been launched for recording local weather and climate data on the Bitcoin SV (BSV) blockchain, in the latest example of an app developer using OP_RETURN transactions in a practical use case.

The app, WeatherSV, was put together by the team behind Australian IT services firm FNQComputers, which announced the launch of the app on Twitter. According to the team, the automated weather channels can be activated from 40,000 live stations and the climate data can be stored on the BSV chain forever.

https://twitter.com/FnqComp/status/1113351739158126592

The app provides a web interface for users to begin recording weather data on the blockchain, covering a comprehensive data set including temperature, humidity, wind speed and air pressure.

Notably, the tweet references notable Bitcoin developer Unwriter, nChain Global and Money Button for their contributions to the project. According to the WeatherSV website, the service relies on bitdb, datapay, Money Button, and Open Weather Map, as well as the BSV blockchain.

WeatherSV allows users to record weather data for their local area, written immutably to the BSV blockchain as a permanent data record. The data is indexed for easy retrieval, and can be searched as required.

With some 40,000 live weather stations covered in the network, the app offers potentially wide ranging access to local weather data. New channels can be created for A$5 (about $4), the A$1/month (about $0.71) to maintain the feed, which writes the data immutably to the blockchain as a permanent, searchable record.

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yarpos
April 17, 2019 2:32 am

Given the propensity to fiddle with the climate record, and means of storing actual readings “forever” seems very desirable

Rod Evans
Reply to  yarpos
April 17, 2019 2:48 am

only if the readings are true and accurate…

Reply to  Rod Evans
April 29, 2019 10:54 pm

We can store this data forever for less that $1 per month as fees are only paid to write data and not to read data. Currently fees are actually allowing for about 2 months of updates every hour per channel for AU50c . Bitcoin is a write once read many (WORM) system.

Reply to  WeatherSV
April 29, 2019 10:58 pm

Sorry replied to wrong comment but your comment is fair however we need to start somewhere. Overtime we can will allow stations to connect directly to our platform. Human and machine intelligence can be employed to create a range of oracles to rate and improve the accuracy of overall datasets. The topology of Bitcoin makes it a great platform for AI or neural networks. This will create methods to rate, verify and model the data more effectively and efficiently than has been done in the past.

Greg
Reply to  yarpos
April 17, 2019 5:43 am

Well it may mean that Phil Jones can’t claim to have “lost” the original records next time around. But this is an immensely stupid idea.

The amount of energy going into bitcoin mining is already greater than that used by countries like the Republic of Ireland.

Putting crappy, worthless local weather data into a blockchain is an insane waste of energy. Just so some nerd in a basement can say “there an app for that !”

Greg
Reply to  Greg
April 17, 2019 5:48 am

At a cost of AUS$1 every month I doubt any of these records will be more than a year long. Totally worthless scientifically.

Reply to  Greg
April 29, 2019 10:55 pm

We can store this data forever for less that $1 per month as fees are only paid to write data and not to read data. Currently fees are actually allowing for about 2 months of updates every hour per channel for AU50c . Bitcoin is a write once read many (WORM) system.

Reply to  Greg
April 17, 2019 7:06 am

Blockchain is not Bitcoin. It is simply a method to record data in a form that it cannot be tampered with. Bitcoin uses blockchain for that purpose; it’s problems with mining have nothing to do with that one underlying technology.

The confusion here is that the app developers are simply using the implementation of blockchain that was developed by the originators of Bitcoin, and is therefore called the “Bitcoin SV.”

John Brisbin
Reply to  Writing Observer
April 17, 2019 1:20 pm

Well explained.

Reply to  Greg
April 29, 2019 11:03 pm

The general misconception with mining is that as it grows and scales it will consume more energy. The reality is that if it scaled to replace current system of VISA, swift, cloud data storage etc it would use dramatically less energy than these current technologies and would not need to increase much from the current levels. ie It still takes the same energy to mine a block whether it includes our data or not.

Schitzree
April 17, 2019 2:55 am

writes the data immutably to the blockchain as a permanent, searchable record.

Clearly this has no possible use for Climatology. As everyone knows all true climate data needs periodic adjustment to better fit to the perfect and unsuitable* models.

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* I originally was trying to typed ‘immutable’, but spellcheck changed it. And for once, I have to agree with it. 😉

Tom Abbott
April 17, 2019 3:46 am

This might be a good idea because it seems that NOAA is now manipulating temperature records of individual states to change the original record, from showing cooling to showing warming.

The Climate Change Fraudsters are still at it. Next thing you know they will be changing temperature records for every city. These people ought to go to jail for what they are doing to people’s sanity by scaring the hell out of them over CAGW, and for the amount of money their lies have caused to be wasted. These data manipulators are out-right criminals and their crimes are ongoing.

https://realclimatescience.com/2019/04/plummeting-temperatures-in-ohio/#comments

Trump needs to assign a federal prosecutor to the new commission he is setting up with Dr. Happer to evaluate the CAGW claims.

Carl Friis-Hansen
April 17, 2019 5:42 am

Not sure I understand the value of storing data encrypted.
Why not just store it in a standard sql3 database? Something with business, maybe.

Does this help getting more accurate weather data?
Currently I live in Sweden, where the national weather bureau SMHI stores and publishes the data from their automated stations around the country. On their website they state that hourly readings are delayed, generally 20min, for verification. This verification makes me somewhat skeptic. Further, I have noticed that the SMHI station nearest my location is mostly showing a 1 to 3℃ higher temperature for under 0℃, compared to my own recently calibrated Pt1000Ω system. I have seen the station, it looks good and they claim to use calibrated Pt100Ω system. So my worry is if SMHI tend to adjust the raw data from the sensor. It would be so nice if SMHI would allow the real time raw data to be accessed by the public, but that will probably remain a dream forever.

Greg
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
April 17, 2019 5:58 am

The 1 to 3 deg difference it possibly legit depending on the differences is siting. There is not much they can do to the current era, too many eyes on the ball. ( They may possibly remove undesirable cold records as being erroneous. ).

Keep a serious log of you own data station and ensure controlled surroundings there compare their record to yours all year round paying special attention to day of min / max extremes. Keep us posted.

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Greg
April 17, 2019 6:26 am

, I will do my best. My own system is not fully implemented for continuous data acquisition, but I hope to have it ready in a month or two. I have logged SMHI station cityId=2694560 for about a year by now. Up to the latest 3 months of this log can be seen here:
https://carl-fh.com/climate

Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
April 29, 2019 11:16 pm

We are not encrypting data(although could be) it is plain text stored in a BitcoinSV transaction

Here is an example transaction:

“1LtyME6b5AnMopQrBPLk4FGN8UBuhxKqrn3{“t”:12.4,”h”:76,”p”:1024,”c”:90,”ws”:2.6,”wd”:150}”1Fwnezeeu89ofsQFE1QrzEwChZS3WkDnUq 1556586004

Using a public blockchain will replace many of the issues and expenses associated with exchaning data between businesses like EDI. Anyone with there own station could connect it with our platform by braodcasting a TX to network in this format which is considerably easier than current methods of sharing data on other platforms.

Mirco Romanato
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
April 30, 2019 11:47 am

The data is not encrypted; it is in plain text.
The point of the service is to store the data in an uncensorable way. After it is published it can not be changed by anyone. Technically, the data is stored in an “Op_Return ” instruction and could be safely deleted by the nodes storing the full blockchain data. BUT, if anyone has the data he can prove the data published at that time was that and not something else (here and now it is not the place for explaining how; if you enquire about Merkle Tree and Bitcoin (BSV in this case) you can understand the inner working of the system).

Of course, the service can not prove the data was accurate. But, when you have large sets of data, you can easily find bias and manipulations. Also, data has value (E.G. wine quality is linked to temperatures, humidity, light, etc. in a specific zone). So some people and business will pay for accurate censor resistant data.

E.G. the vineyards’ owners will pay to get accurate data for their own use; winemakers will pay for accurate data about the grapes they want to buy; wine distributors and buyers will pay for accurate data to understand the quality of the wine they are buying. And so on.

Ten years later, someone will cross check the data from NOAA, SMHI and the wine industry.

The same blockchain will store data about logistics, other plants, the temperatures of hospitals, consumption of energy day and night, etc.

Why is the winter warmer and the people is burning more fuel to warm their homes at the same time?

Alex
April 17, 2019 6:15 am

For just a dollar a month per station I could screw up the network with bogus data. What a joke.

whiten
Reply to  Alex
April 17, 2019 2:34 pm

Alex, that will be only a silly human thinking…as far as I can tell in this given subject.

Bogus data still will be bogus data, or data from monkeys in typewriters will still be that…no more and no less.
No problem for the blockchain network to identify bogus or “monkey” data.
Very easy actually, in consideration of the point of enough volume and high enough density of the data in the given medium, entered within the blockchain network…

Or as it could be put otherwise simply, the blockchain validation,
the new and latest integrated Internet upgraded networking version for precise validation of data and info…
in a way that can be put or considered.

Only needed ingredient there, in such a validation, is time and “critical mass” achieved, which may
not be much of a problem in both counts as per given condition, if enough entry intensity point with the data and info…
whatever the medium of the data in question related happens to be.

The very concept of the blockchain, as far as I can tell and understand is the very consideration of validating data, data validation for high precision in any conceivable form entered, without a chance of intended or arbitrary reversal.

No way, as far as I can tell, in considering of the blockchain network being “fooled” by bogus or “monkey” data…or “sexed up” data or info.
The best ever offered or expected support, by the blockchain network process or blockchain protocols, according to my understanding…where all or most orientated only towards;
precise validation and preservation of proper values, with no any chance of arbitrary damages involved with, over time, either in or as per the count of intention or premeditation, or simply due to some silly randomness, or errors due to simply some “stupidity” corruption of/by chance, or else.

Oh, well maybe that only a figment of imagination on my part…but!

cheers

Alex
Reply to  whiten
April 17, 2019 10:35 pm

I misunderstood the post. I thought you could create your own station for $5. It’s simply a method for accessing existing, established weather stations. I already have that with Weather Underground on my computer. There are other methods for downloading and recording weather data. Maybe it’s not for me. I don’t get a ‘little stiffy’ from the mere mention of the word ‘blockchain’.

Hocus Locus
Reply to  Alex
April 19, 2019 10:06 am

“BLOCKCHAIN.”
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“FLOPPY DISC.”
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Reply to  Alex
April 29, 2019 11:20 pm

This is a starting point we are currently working on getting stations connected direct to our platform if you want to get involved in uploading data from your station directly then we are happy to help.

Mirco Romanato
Reply to  Alex
April 30, 2019 11:55 am

Ten years from now, your data, in your HDD will not be valuable, because you have no way to prove it was not forged.

ten years from now, the blockchain data has 2.100.000 blocks confirmed over that data and the only way to forge the data is to redo all the Proof of Work of every single block. You can prove when the data was published on the blockchain.

BTW, You could get paid for accurate data today and to publish the data on the blockchain (a lot of people and services could find useful to pay you for the data). They will stop to pay you if the data is unreliable or unuseful. So you have an incentive to publish reliable and useful data today. The same data, in the future, can be read as many times as it is needed but can never be changed.

Reply to  Mirco Romanato
April 30, 2019 12:17 pm

Of course, the current data is frequently unreliable, and very useful indeed to the catastrophists.

Blockchain is at this point a mechanism of perfectly preserving and guaranteeing the stability of the Garbage In.

I’d be delighted to see something like this done retroactively, preserving the weather station data from decades ago, and able to demonstrate that the entries match the actual original logs. That makes some sense. I could see a little cottage industry set up around this effort.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)

Walter Sobchak
April 17, 2019 8:41 am

This seems rather like using a .45 to crack walnuts. The processing cost of writing new data must outweigh the value of the data tremendously.

Mirco Romanato
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
April 30, 2019 12:01 pm

If you computed the taxes justified by false data used to prop up AGW I doubt the value is outweighed by the costs.

As I wrote before, someone could find useful to pay local weather stations to publishing their data. If the data is useful to agriculture or industry they could pay for it. And it would be useful only if it is true.

April 17, 2019 10:00 am

Bitcoin SV has worn out its welcome in the crypto community. It is being delisted from exchanges for bad behavior, and will probably be gone or at least worthless in a month or so.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)

Reply to  Keith DeHavelle
April 29, 2019 11:29 pm

BitcoinSV is the only surviving original version of the Bitcoin protocol. The original protocol was designed to scale infinitely. BTC Bitcoin has been shackled and led most to believe we need many blockchains to address different needs. Scaling and other innovation in BSV is now proving the doubters wrong.
Exchanges such as Kraken, Binance and others that have joined the delist BSV movement are protecting their business model which is being threatened as people realise we do not need or want thousands of blockchains. These gambling shops similar to bucketshops of old make money from people flipping from coin to coin but add no real utility to the technology.
Although technically we could do similar on Bitcoin(BTC) current fees are 6000x more expensive on BTC than BSV so would be cost prohibitive.

Mirco Romanato
Reply to  Keith DeHavelle
April 30, 2019 12:04 pm

This post is about an useful application of BSV.
BSV has real utility for real people.

BTC, BCH, ETH and the rest of shit-coins and shit-tokens are just useful to gamble and trade a crypto-coin with another crypto-coin. They are not useful to real people.

April 17, 2019 10:25 am

Here’s some background:

https://blog.kraken.com/post/2274/kraken-is-delisting-bsv/

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)