Fraud: Trudeau Uses Photo Of Forest Fire Caused By Wind Turbine Construction Project To Sell His Carbon Tax Scam

From Spencer Fernando

Trudeau Climate Action Fraud

The fraud never ends with the Trudeau Liberals.

Justin Trudeau recently tweeted an article with the following photo, in an effort to fear-monger Canadians into supporting his hated carbon tax scam.

The photo is attempting to make some sort of link between supporting Trudeau’s carbon tax scam, and avoiding forest fires, which is an astoundingly absurd argument.

And it’s even more absurd, once you realize where the photo is from:

This photo is from the Parry Sound 33 fire.

Parry Sound 33 Fire

And it’s the same photo that was in the article Trudeau tweeted.

As David Jacobs pointed out on Twitter, the fire in that photo was caused by a construction project for a wind turbine:

The connection between the wind turbine construction project and the fire has been made in multiple sources:

A CBC report included quotes from workers saying “We heard on two-way radios that there was an Argo [an all-terrain vehicle] that broke down in the bush where the fire began,” one worker said. “During the week, as we proceeded through work, there were fires that started up from our machines … little fires,” he said. “But this one started and it was too big for [workers] to control. And it got out of hand and it turned into devastation.”

Read the full article here.

HT/Willie Soon

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April 7, 2019 10:07 am

Leftists are willing to commit fraud and produce propaganda in order to support their political positions? Who’da thunk it.

Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 10:45 am

Nah…….they are just too stupid to understand the blunders they make in their zealous pursuit of global elitism.

Reply to  HotScot
April 7, 2019 12:06 pm

….like not realizing they just admitted temps have only increased 0.8 degree…since 1948

Jim Whelan
Reply to  HotScot
April 7, 2019 1:46 pm

Some are stupid and/or ignorant but there a lot of dishonest warmunists stoking the flames for political and monetary gain.

Bill Powers
Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 12:25 pm

They don’t see it that way SMC. They live in The Land of Make Believe, (google Chuck Mangione who wrote and preformed the theme song for their fantasy land) and it operates as their alternate universe. Point of Fact they don’t see what they say as propaganda They would call it Post-Modernist Deconstructionism where they deconstruct reality, facts, truth and then reconstruct it into what they want it to be and mean. They even call it “their truth” because it cannot pass any empirical scientific scrutiny. Which is not a requirement whilst living in The Land Of Make Believe.

Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 3:12 pm

Well, what else do you all expect from Trudy Trudeau? He’s a prime example of The Jerk As Politician.

When is Canada going to fire him?

Alan Davidson
Reply to  Sara
April 7, 2019 5:11 pm


Reply to  Sara
April 8, 2019 12:13 am

I just received this comment about Justin Trudeau from a Canadian doctor who lives overseas.
I have added no comments.
Regards to all, Allan

The Irving, Desmarais, Bombardier & McCain (Morneau by marriage) families, along with SNC Lavalin, Quebec Inc. and whomever holds the premiership of Quebec, own the Liberal Party of Canada and always have. This is why Quebec has always been the most powerful and entitled of tails, wagging the complacent Canadian dog.

Trudeau would have us believe his judicial interference was all about protecting 9,000 supposed jobs? Like these contracts wouldn’t have, or couldn’t have, been awarded if no SNC Lavalin? No other Canadian engineering groups exists besides this corrupt entity that the Liberals keep rewarding with billions in subsidies and contracts? Construction workers wouldn’t be hired if not for SNC’s existence? Does he really think Canadians are that stupid?

And let’s dispel the “you have to bribe to get contracts in certain jurisdictions” argument for cutting SNC some slack. This may be true, but Libya is far from SNC Lavalin’s only malfeasance. Let’s not forget SNC was convicted in 2018 for over $100,000 plus of illegal contributions (bribes) to Federal Liberal Party members? And that SNC was deeply connected to the Porter scandal and the corruption associated with Montreal’s new general Hospital. Or that they are currently under RCMP investigation for corruption related to the recently rebuilt Champlain bridge in Montreal.

Never mind SNC expensing $2 million for Qadhafi’s son while entertaining in Canada for security details, concerts, hotels and prostitutes on Canadian soil. Btw, this went over really well with our CAF pilots tasked with bombing Libya. And how does SNC’s buying Qadhafi’s prostitutes fit with Mr. Feminist’s disparaging comments towards Alberta oil workers, suggesting that sex workers follow work camps?

This is simply Federal Liberal Quebec politics per usual and the Liberal party’s corrupt and seemingly eternal hold over Quebec and by extension Canada, being clearly illuminated for even the most truly blind partisan Liberal. As Cohen sang, “there is a crack in everything, that’s how the light gets in”

And, 90,000 energy job losses in Alberta don’t matter a damn to this government. No liberal votes out there folks!

So, let’s do a quick review of things Canadians shouldn’t forget about this charlatan;

• Let’s not forget the Trudeau Foundation? The mini-Clinton globalist drama teacher plays this money grab to the hilt with millions flowing in from Chinese billionaires after his “play for pay” dinners? Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what SNC Lavalin has contributed?

• Let’s not forget his slimy Minister of Finance, Bill Morneau screwing over small corporations with his passive income tax grab, while conveniently selling 680,000 Morneau-Shepell shares just days before changing Canada’s Pension laws.

• Let’s not forget Trudeau’s greasy pal Gerald Butts, the brains behind Trudeau, who bailed on McGinty before his government blew-up, who’s disastrous energy policy saddled Ontario with the highest sub-national debt in the world.

• Let’s not forget about his sleazy Agha Kahn vacation, breaking every ethical and conflict of interest rule in the book.

• His India dress-up fiasco with a convicted terrorist among his delegation and then trying to blame the PM of India, who didn’t bother to even greet him on what turned out to be a very expensive taxpayer family adventure tour.

• His very avoidable foreign affair disasters with our 2 biggest trading partners, America & China. Backstabbing Trump when promises were made at the G7. But more egregiously, admitting he knew about the Meng (Weiwei) arrest before it happened, making the bogus claim that this most political of actions (the Justice Minister makes the final call on extradition) was simply following the “rule of law” which Trump quickly made a mockery by wedging her into his trade dispute with China. This never should have happened, as even prominent senior Liberals admit.

• His welcome to Canada tweet and the silliness of our refugee policy suggesting those that cross the border between customs are “irregulars” and not “illegals”. George Orwell would be proud!

• His refusal to revoke the citizenship of returning ISIS fighters and the RCMP’s lack of ability to lay charges.

• His payment of $10.5 million to Omar Kadri in such a way as to thwart the American widow seeking to sue. Kadri’s mother & sister had already appeared on video denouncing Canada while declaring their support for ISIS

• His meeting with Boyle and his wife in the PM’s office, even though their journey and bogus story on being kidnapped was highly suspect. Boyle had been married to Kadri’s self-identified terrorist sympathizing sister and he is now in jail for beating and drugging his wife.

• His explanation to charges of groping a woman being “I do not feel that I acted inappropriately in any way. But I respect the fact that someone else might have experienced that differently” WTF…from our champion of feminism?

• His “the budget will balance itself” adding $100 million of additional national debt over his mandate and his own government releasing numbers that would indicate the budget won’t be balanced until 2041…some balancing? And we have what to show for these expenditures?

• His tweeting $50 million pledge to a B star American actor raising money for some third world woman & daughters group, just to get some attention on TV. Meanwhile, our veterans get stiffed.

• Peoplekind

• His cancelling Northern Gateway and Energy East pipelines leaving only one option, forcing him to spend $4.5 billion to buy Kinder Morgan only to see it too go up in regulatory flames. We could hear the champagne corks popping all the way from Texas. His Bill C-69 will only exacerbate regulatory approvals with downstream emissions & gender BS. So, its ok to ship 750,000 plus barrels per day to the east coast (Irvings) by tanker from nefarious regimes who have no environmental standards, but disallow tankers for the Northern Gateway pipeline. Let’s face the facts, if Quebec had oil, we would have pipelines running all over this country.

• His making outrageous promises to Indigenous Canadian’s who can only once again feel deceived by the white man with forked tongue. And look what happened with the “Truth & Reconciliation” farce.

• His apologizing for every conceivable historical grievance under the sun. Is there anything left?

• His legalizing marijuana long before the country was ready, suggesting it was to “protect the kids” REALLY? But no worries, the Indigenous peoples will have a field day supplying the market as they already do with cigarettes, and I say all the power to them. But, as a result of marijuana legislation, they passed Bill C-46 that allows police unprecedented powers in impaired driving apprehensions (even in the sanctity of our homes) which will cause considerable misery before being constitutionally struck down as it must be, if we can even remotely claim to not being a Police State.

• His promising a government of “transparency” slamming Harper’s ways, vowing to “never introduce an omnibus bill” and then did just that with the SNC Lavalin intended DPA (get out of jail free card) buried within an omnibus bill.

• His promising a more open and accessible PMO, suggesting the problem started with his father but soon ushering in Gerald Butts as his Principle Secretary causing many Liberals to grumble his office is manically controlled by Butts & Telford.

• His Chief of Staff Telford, saying she could “provide cover” for JWR to break the law, by arranging op-ed articles “saying what she was doing re SNC DPA was proper”…WTF, if that doesn’t get your attention, you should move to China or Russia. This from a government who the CBC already salivates over with their juicy extra funding and a government that is now subsidizing print journalism. No dots to connect here folks?

• His $300 plus million taxpayer gift to the inept Bombardier, because “aerospace was so vital to the Canadian economy” who promptly gave their board $50 million in bonuses (virtually all family members) and then ended up selling the C-Series to Airbus. Trudeau’s business acumen obviously didn’t include a clause for “job protection” since only taxpayers monies.

• And his carbon tax with its first phase kicking in April 1st, that will do nothing for the environment (Canada is 1.6% of world carbon output) while hurting those that need to use the most energy living outside Liberal dominated cities. Further, since neither of our two largest trading partners have such a tax, it further impairs our abilities to compete. And, anyone who thinks Trudeau will continue to rebate this tax after he he’s reelected, probably hasn’t read this far.

• His…ok, that’s enough, or will be here all night, suffice to say he’s a Conservative’s gift that keeps on giving…only, it’s not so funny anymore.
Trudeau was the anti-Harper choice for Canadians that I’ve admittedly never understood. But so what, he’s a Liberal, the “natural governing party of Canada” and it was inevitable that they would be back. He also seemed clueless and awfully naive with his prancing around the world playing Mr. Environment, (even flying the largest contingent of any nation to the Paris climate change gabfest) trying to insert gender, environment and workers’ rights into trade talks with countries like China who could give a rats ass. But still, it all seemed rather harmless, if not irritating that this decidedly not serious or grown-up man was prattling on this way, because Canada, in my opinion, hasn’t been a truly serious country in decades, other than regulating its citizens to death.

But, this is no longer a joke, he is actually becoming quite dangerous to Canada. Not only is he fanning the divisions of our country between East & West (have you read Alberta newspapers lately) while pitting Indigenous peoples against each other, and their governments, with countless energy related lawsuits. BUT, if he can interfere in the Justice system on behalf of a seriously corrupt entity for clearly partisan purposes, he can also lean on the Justice system to litigate other entities or people with whom he has a vendetta. Sound farfetched? Isn’t this banana republic stuff? Perhaps, but watch Vice-Admiral Mark Norman’s legal proceedings very closely. This was a witch hunt with Trudeau, Irving & Scott Brison (former President of the Treasury board) fingerprints all over it. This fine military officer, unique in Canadian history for delivering a warship on time and on budget, is made a scapegoat for cabinet leaks that exposed Irving interference and Trudeau complicity. Trudeau thought he would screw Norman by refusing him government legal defense funds generally available to military officers of the crown, only to have a Go Fund Me campaign pay for the services of the brilliant Marie Henein, who will leave no stone unturned. In fact, my bet is that this could well be the next shoe to drop on our dumbass PM’s head when the bogus “solicitor/client privilege” muzzle is finally removed from Jody Wilson Raybould. She will know all about the prosecution’s extremely dubious case.

How ironic that our halo-bound Liberal Prime Minister, proud feminist, defender of minority rights, inclusivity, advocate for transparency, apologist for centuries of wrongdoings to the Indigenous, was morally eviscerated by such a strong willed, meticulously prepared Indigenous woman and now has another very strong feminist opponent in Maria Henein perhaps finishing the job. Good riddance to that smug hypocrite. Professor Jordon Peterson’s brilliant evisceration of his character is must see video.

Sunny ways?…more like “shady ways” while proving a most unfortunate stooge for the “king makers” of Canada. Like “House of Cards” they forgot to consider that the wrong designate can create havoc to their entitled ways.

P.S. I purposely Bcc’d the few liberals still talking to me and would welcome how they might still consider voting for this imbecilic twit who still thinks invoking the scary Stephen Harper, as the satanic master of the Conservative party, isn’t growing a tad stale? In fact, vote Green, NDP, Max Bernier for all I care, but rewarding this smarmy, smug, entitled little prick, would truly be a sad day for this once great nation.

Brad Bakuska
Reply to  R
April 8, 2019 8:53 am

Amen. Great letter, wish it appeared in all newspapers!

Dale Mullen
Reply to  R
April 8, 2019 9:32 am

R: Excellent.
Wish I knew who the author is/was so that I could first extend my appreciation for his/her astuteness, and then republish the information under the correct name.

Reply to  R
April 8, 2019 1:08 pm

This is fantastic, thank you for sharing. I’m sure the writer would appreciate this getting to as many Canadians as possible. Everyone should copy and share this.

Reply to  R
April 9, 2019 2:15 am

Excellent this should be published in every newspaper but that will never happen!

Reply to  R
April 10, 2019 12:45 am

WOW! Thanks. Awesome.

Reply to  Sara
April 8, 2019 7:28 am

Unfortunately, the Conservative leader, Andrew Scheer, has shown himself to be rather meek up to now. His party has endorsed the Paris Climate Accord, one of the reasons prompting Maxime Bernier to walk out and form his own almost-libertarian party (People’s Party of Canada), which could do just enough damage to the Conservatives to ensure Justin Trudeau’s re-election.
Liberals will also gain from the expected weakness of the NDP, following this party’s unfortunate choice of a new leader wearing ostentatious religious “singhs”.

Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 3:45 pm

Justin Turdeau lies, tells falsehoods, and misleads. As such he is a perfect spokesperson for the climate change (aka tax them some more) movement.

David Blackall
Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 4:19 pm

Imposing Technocracy. That’s what the old Left, in serving its Capitalist masters, is doing. Imposing Technocracy.

The Expulsive
Reply to  SMC
April 8, 2019 4:49 am

Justin is just a true believer, like the last Liberal premier of Ontario, the policies of whom we in Ontario are just trying to clean up after years of hyperbole. Justin’s BFF and lead enforcer in the PMO was in that horrid government as well, before he went to a high profile environmental job and then to the PMO, where he brought forward all of the baggage of the Marxists who are now environmentalists

April 7, 2019 10:13 am

Trueduh! What a poser mofo. Are Canadians really this stupid to elect such a fool?

Reply to  icisil
April 7, 2019 10:19 am

They elected him so, apparently, they are.

Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 10:30 am

Don’t forget, this is round two of a True Dough as PM.

The True Dough family made their fortune with Quebec GAS STATIONS.

R Shearer
Reply to  Davis
April 7, 2019 10:34 am

Reparations are in order.

Reply to  Davis
April 7, 2019 10:39 am

Not surprising the progeny often turn on what made the family fortune.

Reply to  rakman
April 7, 2019 4:37 pm

Like Maurice Strong. a coauthor with Gorbachev, of the Kyoto Treaty, designed to destroy the western economy in order to save the world from capitalism, and not to save the world from climate change.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 10:47 am

I was looking at my options for getting out of this crazy country when Ontario voted in a conservative government to deconstuct, the carbon tx grab/renubles skim and stop scaring and guilt- invoking CA Glob W propaganda and the egregious promotional sex ed.

But yes, Canadians need their Liberal fix, even though it is the most corrupt party in N.America. Their former PM lost an election because of scandal in doling out millions to “consultant” friends who never produced any deliverables, reversing decisions of the Federal business dev bank, etc. even let alone the mafia bagmen who were raising funds for them with offers to donors they couldn’t refuse. Trudeau Sr. was at least an intellectual who never passed on this legacy to his son.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 7, 2019 11:28 am

“I was looking at my options for getting out of this crazy country”

May you be blessed and come hither south that you may strengthen sanity therein.

Alan Davidson
Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 7, 2019 12:23 pm

Wait till October. Good chance that Trudeau’s Liberals will not be Canada’s Federal Government after the next election.

Reply to  SMC
April 7, 2019 10:31 pm

Who elected Oba-ma?

Reply to  nc
April 8, 2019 9:24 am

You won’t catch me saying Americans aren’t stupid…

Reply to  nc
April 10, 2019 12:53 am

Yes, true. But, then, we elected Trump who is fixing all of Obama’s mistakes and resurrecting the US from the dead. Our stupidity was not incurable.

Reply to  icisil
April 7, 2019 10:53 am

A great many Canadian journalists are convinced that a tax can change the weather. Thyetalk about it every day, and it doesn’t seem to matter whether the journalist is liberal or conservative, they truly believe that a tax can change the weather of the entire world.

Canadians already pay about $1.50 /gallon in taxes on fuel, yet journalists actually believe that another 20cents will do the trick. Astonishing.

Do any Canadian journalists have a background in science? Like any?

Reply to  Klem
April 7, 2019 10:58 am

Canadian climate scientists don’t even need a climate science background, just some degree to study bugs.

Jeff Labute
Reply to  Klem
April 7, 2019 1:03 pm

Canadian journalists, such as the CBC get more money from liberal governments while the conservative governments tend to cut them back.

Hey journalists, here’s an extra $600M, don’t spent it all in one place.

Reply to  icisil
April 7, 2019 11:11 am

They are, mainly in Ontario, where they are like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed BS.

Robert of Texas
April 7, 2019 10:13 am

“This is why we need #ClimateAction NOW, & a price on pollution is a key part of that. Our kids and grandkids are counting on us.”

Maybe he meant that the photo demonstrates we need to stop building these stupid wind turbines because of the damage they do and redefine pollution so that it does not apply to critical-to-life atmospheric gases, and therefore has no arbitrary harmful price attached to it? I think he is ON to something here!

April 7, 2019 10:26 am

President Trump is refunding tax dollars, instituting tariffs against unfair traders, and creating jobs in a vibrant economy to rebuild America’s Middle Class. Truedope is crushing Canada’s middle class against the millstone of “Carbon” taxes, and failed trade negotiations. A stark portrait of neighboring Leaders. Trump 2020!

Reply to  Kenji
April 7, 2019 10:45 am

You are going to need two walls.

True Dough would be dumb enough to pay for it with western Canadian money and build it with corrupt Quebec contractors.

Reply to  Davis
April 8, 2019 1:24 am

Oh! So close!

What you meant was that True Dough would be dumb enough to pay for it with western Canadian money and would nod his head in agreement when the corrupt Quebec contractors claimed they had already built the wall. This would be widely reported by a complicit MSM who would cover the ribbon cutting ceremony from a camera angle clearly showing an empty field because they know for certain that only stupid people can’t see the wall….

Reply to  Davis
April 10, 2019 12:58 am

Haha! If Democrats thought Canadian Conservatives were crossing the border illegally, they’d be up north in minute building a wall with their own two hands to keep you out.

Ron Long
April 7, 2019 10:29 am

Give poor Trudeau a break, he’s the President of Where the Sun Don’t Shine.

Reply to  Ron Long
April 7, 2019 10:37 am

But the sun does shine here six months of the year, it is only during the winter months that the sun hides below the horizon. Actually, during the summer the darn sun won’t go down, making it hard to get a good night’s sleep.

Politically though, you are correct.

Reply to  Ron Long
April 7, 2019 11:07 am

Well he DOES have his head stuffed into an orifice where the sun NEVER shines. However, back to Canadian geography … how is it possible for a world Leader to TAX his people for powering and heating their homes … where the sun angle makes supplemental energy a SURVIVAL commodity? WTH is TrueDope doing!? Someone tell PM shortStockings that he is KILLING his own people!!!

April 7, 2019 10:34 am

Darn trees causing all that CO2 to go into the air with their constantly burning. Shouldn’t have shut down the Canadian lumber and paper industries.

When I worked at a pulp mill years ago, a forester told me “Old forests have to be cut down, or they burn down”, that is the only two choices.

J Mac
April 7, 2019 10:45 am

Trudeau demonstrates a special brand of shallow disingenuousness. Apparently, half of the voters support him though. Hard to believe…..

Reply to  J Mac
April 7, 2019 10:54 am

Unfortunately, the population between Windsor Ontario and Quebec City Quebec decide Canadian federal politics. Our founders didn’t want an electoral college style vote as the system is designed for the rest of Canada to be vassals of Quebec, even the people of Ontario are blind to this.

April 7, 2019 10:46 am

Good afternoon freedom loving peeps. Rainy day in Kentucky but temp is a balmy 75 so all is good. Happened to zipline with a young Quebecois yesterday. Almost checked myself into the hospital afterwards.

Trudeau is a manifestation of the rot on the left. The “anatomically smooth Ken doll” personifies the quest for power with no other propose no meaning no substance. Just a job because he has daddies name. Carbon taxes are completely meaningless other than providing a funding stream for favored rent seekers. As has been said here before they are indulgences. We stand opposed to indulgences. We stand opposed to bleeding the people to pay for private jets and island vacations.

Pat Frank
Reply to  troe
April 7, 2019 10:56 am

I have to give him credit for one outstanding talent.

Having heard him speak a few times, Trudeau has a first-class ability to speak at length without actually saying anything. A master of vacu-talk.

James Fosser
Reply to  Pat Frank
April 7, 2019 1:59 pm

For hour upon hour, day in day out,Trudeau must have been watching this titillating political speech by Peter Sellers.

ferd berple
Reply to  Pat Frank
April 7, 2019 5:52 pm

speak at length without actually saying anything.

Reply to  Pat Frank
April 9, 2019 9:49 am

I refer to it as coach-talk, as sport coaches seem particularly gifted in it.

Reply to  troe
April 7, 2019 10:56 am

You should at least have a long hot shower, maybe use some abrasive cleaners as well, hard to get that stuff off………

April 7, 2019 10:47 am

They did not even photoshopped a starving polar bear somewhere on the picture. 🙁

Plantation Willie
April 7, 2019 10:57 am

“Trueduh! What a poser mofo. Are Canadians really this stupid to elect such a fool?”

Hey, Americans elected AOC, Pelosi, Maxine Waters…..97% of people with an above average IQ believe in a global stupidity climate. I know because some journalists said so.

April 7, 2019 11:14 am

This is the second Trudeau since 1980 to attack and destroy the west, and Alberta in particular. This time around I will be voting Alberta independence. Enough is enough.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rob
April 7, 2019 11:44 am

I’d like to see a Mulroney replace a Trudeau again. How about Caroline?

Reply to  Rich Davis
April 7, 2019 12:23 pm

I really don’t care. Alberta is being deliberately attacked and destroyed. Who in their right mind would want to stay in this thieving Marxist crap hole of a country.

Lee L
Reply to  Rob
April 7, 2019 1:03 pm

I do understand your feelings Rob. But honestly, talk to some people who lived in an ACTUAL Marxist craphole and you may simmer down.

Nonetheless, when the so called leader of our craphole calls Canda, (and I quote),
“The world’s first post national state”… then this bozo really has to go. He appears to be doing a fine job of it himself though.

Reply to  Lee L
April 7, 2019 1:56 pm

I’m not even gona waste my time voting in another federal election. I didn’t even vote in the by – election to replace our MP Rona Ambrose, who did nothing for us. Harper sold Alberta out to try and buy votes in the east, Scheer and his gang of trained seals voted for the Paris agreement, trying to do the same thing, so all you’re doing is replacing dumb with just as dumb by voting CP.

John F. Hultquist
April 7, 2019 11:23 am

In the summer and fall of 1950, the Chinchaga Fire – the single largest recorded fire in North American history – produced a massive firestorm and created the world’s largest smoke layer. {Wikipedia}

This, of course (sarc), heated Canada, and “global warming” began.
Trudeau, and Canada, owes all of the rest of us a deep apology. Okay, I know he has a few other things he is dealing with this week. I’ll wait.

ferd berple
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
April 7, 2019 5:46 pm

Trudy Trudeau? He’s a prime example of The Jerk As Politician.
Trudeau is more like the upper class twit of the year. Stuck on the final event.

Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 11:44 am

You commenters are giving Justin Trudeau too much credit IMHO. It’s arguable that he doesn’t have the intellectual depth to devise a policy about anything. All of the liberal policies about climate change/global warming and “how we can stop it” are the work of Gerry Butts, who was until recently the chief advisor in the PMO. He is also a close personal friend of JT, such that they “finish each others’ sentences”

Butts is a true believer in AGW; he was advisor to the former Liberal government of Ontario, who inherited an electrical generation system that was 60% nuclear and 24% hydro and tried to make it more “carbon-free” by promoting and subsidizing a load of wind power schemes that made electricity almost twice as expensive at the consumer level. They got voted out as a consequence and he turned up in Ottawa just in time to mastermind the feds doing the same sorts of things. Power generation is regulated by the provinces, so they had to get clever.

The carbon tax is really just the tip of the iceberg. Their big achievement will be passing a new law called Bill C-69, which introduces whole new levels of complexity and uncertainty in the Environmental Assessment process. This will open all kinds of doors to Big Green to raise objections to pipelines (and any other big project, but mostly interprovincial pipelines, which are the real target) on the basis of gender equity (really!), effects on marine life, and “downstream carbon emissions”. Meanwhile, the publicity for Bill C-69 says that it is intended to “introduce clarity and reduce uncertainty in the environmental assessment process”. Right.

Butts is gone from the PMO (forced to resign for senselessly trying to interfere in a prosecution), but I think we can rest assured that he’s still pulling the strings behind the scenes. Puppet master extraordinaire.

(PMO = Prime Minister’s Office)

Reply to  Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 11:58 am

That is why Alberta has to separate from Canada and become its own country. The UN guarantees that a foreign country has access to tidewater. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the face to BC.

Dave in Puna
Reply to  Davis
April 7, 2019 3:14 pm

I hope we can persuade Albertans to join the US. Win win.

Reply to  Dave in Puna
April 7, 2019 6:03 pm

Democrats would allow it…(since Alberta is a conservative province) so no votes…!

Reply to  lance
April 7, 2019 6:08 pm

that should have been “wouldn’t”…..typing to fast

Reply to  Davis
April 8, 2019 1:37 pm

Agreed. 100%!

Reply to  Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 12:14 pm

Smart Rock, it’s more than Butts…way more.

In Canada, all of our academic, media, corporate and governing elites along with the post secondary educated population are on board with the Al Gore MMGW scary narrative.

The pounding stench is horrific…
Radio, print, television and social media…
Constantly barfing climate change climate change climate change.

Patrick Hrushowy
Reply to  M.W.Plia
April 7, 2019 1:18 pm

Whenever I hear or read the term climate change I know I am dealing with someone of limited intellectual capacity and who is thoroughly infected with group speak.

Malcolm Carter
Reply to  M.W.Plia
April 7, 2019 1:43 pm

To give them their due they alternate:
climate change, victims of the week, climate change, victims of the week
Ain’t it awful?

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 1:24 pm

“…The carbon tax is really just the tip of the iceberg. Their big achievement will be passing a new law called Bill C-69, which introduces whole new levels of complexity and uncertainty in the Environmental Assessment process. This will open all kinds of doors to Big Green to raise objections to pipelines (and any other big project, but mostly interprovincial pipelines, which are the real target) on the basis of gender equity (really!)…”

“…Worldwide, the average lifespan is about 71 years. Men, though, live an average of 68 years while women live an average of 73 years.

In the United States, the average lifespan is almost 79 years. Men live on average about 76 years while woman live an average of 81 years….”

When gender equality is mentioned with regards to fossil fuel infrastructure and climate change, I presume activists are talking about equalizing some perceived gap between men and women. If so, the linked article above from shows that women, both globally and in the U.S., have a longer lifespan than men do.

If fossil fuel infrastructure presumably favors men somehow in the minds of eco-activists, they will need to explain why women in the world have the longer life spans. Blending feminism, Marxism and other ideologies into environmental activism keeps getting more strange as time goes on.

ferd berple
Reply to  Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 2:19 pm

TrueDope and Butts remind me of Charlie McCarthy and Edgar Bergen. Charlie never had a thought of his own, and could only talk when Bergen had his arm up Charlie’s backside. Yet the audience thought Charlie had the brains and Bergen was the dummy.

John Robertson
April 7, 2019 12:03 pm

Even after imposing the TAX on EVERYTHING,The Hair Apparent,Trudeau,will be reelected by Eastern Canadians.
Fraud,deception and corruption is the Laurentian Way.
So it matters little how stupid the Prime Minister is,there are a whole bunch of Canadians just as or dumber.
Canada is done.
In pushing an Independent West,I argue I am not leaving Canada,Canada left me decades ago.
I am greatful to Mr Trudeau and his henchmen, for they have made it very clear,Rule of Law does not live in their Canada. And the trained seals of the political class have all stood up and clapped their support for Post National Canada.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  John Robertson
April 7, 2019 2:15 pm

John R. The problem is you imported so many lefty unemployed, on the pogie Atlantic Canadians to work in the oil patch that the province voted in the first socialist government ever. Actually it was the first non conservative government ever and you guys blew past the liberals at the halfway leveland voted in the totalitarians directly. You better get your province back first before you separate.

ferd berple
Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 8, 2019 11:29 am

This is the problem with mass migration. 200,000 Canadians moved to Alberta from eastern Canada because their were no jobs in the east. And when they got to Alberta these 200,000 voted the same way they had back east, never taking the time to question why there were no jobs in the east. And of course the end result was a change of government and the 200,000 lost their jobs and returned to eastern Canada.

Joel O’Bryan
April 7, 2019 12:04 pm

Trudeau exhibits the same kind of illiteracy as US leftists like AO-c.

Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 12:08 pm

When I was a student at a prestigious university in England (back in the early1960s) I learned a few things about formal clothes. One thing was, never wear brown shoes with a blue suit. Justin Trudeau always wears brown shoes and blue suits. I should have known not to vote for this guy.

ferd berple
Reply to  Smart Rock
April 7, 2019 6:01 pm

Trudôpe. light in the loafers.

April 7, 2019 12:15 pm

Maybe if Canadian liberals would stop exhaling Canada wouldn’t warm so much or as quickly.

M__ S__
April 7, 2019 12:30 pm

Leftists of all stripes (the Totalitarian Party of the US, included) are fundamentally dishonest. They have to be, because no one with accurate data would go for their wealth destroying, liberty stealing policies.

Dennis Sandberg
April 7, 2019 12:47 pm

Liberalism is a birth defect. It’s not nice to make fun of people who are ill. I try very hard to treat them appropriately, but it’s not easy knowing their “convictions” about energy are destroying western societies. The Chinese have a superior approach. They virtue signal and provide jobs by building lots of wind mills but protect the grid by not connecting them into the system.

Reply to  Dennis Sandberg
April 7, 2019 4:08 pm

Liberalism is not a defect. The folks we call Liberals, aren’t liberals. Part of the problem is the leftists have corrupted and expanded the definition of liberalism, as they do with many terms, to the point where it becomes meaningless. It’s a marketing effort to make their corrupt ways sound noble and good.

Patrick Hrushowy
April 7, 2019 1:21 pm

Whenever I hear or read the term climate change I know I am dealing with someone of limited intellectual capacity and who is thoroughly infected with group speak.

Reply to  Patrick Hrushowy
April 7, 2019 1:55 pm

There’s weather and there’s climate which is defined as average weather over a defined period.

Climate change? Meaningless. Unless you are Al Gore. Ker-ching!

April 7, 2019 1:45 pm

I figured out how to reduce global emissions by 86.9% using fossil fuels and the government of Canada told me to get out, and not come back for 1 year.

April 7, 2019 1:56 pm

Trudeau’s win in 2015 could have bearing upon the US election in 2020.
Going into that election, the “ABC” movement was the serious driver. “Anything But Conservatives”.
The Liberal Party of Canada had had two hopeless leaders, so Liberals, who hated the Conservatives for trying to re-introduce the concept of limited government, swung to the NDP (socialist in thought, word and deed).
This put the NDP in first place in the polls. Never happened before and the Liberals in third place (ditto).
The the Left in sensing a rare victory came out with the “Leap Manifesto” and the Liberals vote swung back to the Liberals.
Who won placing another Communist-admiring Trudeau in office.
Bloody disaster for Canada, but an instruction for the US.
The crazy Leftist Dems with AOC and Bernie are committing the equivalent of the “Leap Manifesto”.
Which is dividing and will continue to divide the deplorable Dems.
Divided, the Left in either country can lose.
The Liberals will likely lose in our general election in this October.
Conservatives winning will keep the NDP in a very poor third place.

April 7, 2019 3:51 pm

2. Justin Trudeau is clearly attempting to libel chill any public discussion of Lavscam. It won’t work. With this SLAPP suit, the Liberal leader looks scared.

April 7, 2019 4:18 pm

The argument about fires is about fuel aridity, not the source of fires. Climate change is not creating sparks, it is claimed to be creating fuel. This is not hard to learn reading literally anything about the topic sourced to scientific information.

For this fire in particular:

“The severity with which forest fires are burning in areas that have peat or organic soil, which are typically wet, is concerning, said James Michael Waddington, a McMaster University professor who has studied wildfires for over a decade. “Several decades of fire suppression combined with unprecedented dry conditions fuelled by climate change means that peat is burning more often,” said Waddington, who added that the more severe the burning of the peat, the greater the resources and time required to fight the fire.

Related example (for western U.S.), topic is aridity not sources:

Abatzoglou 2016, “Impact of anthropogenic climate change on wildfire across western US forests”
“Anthropogenic climate change accounted for ∼55% of observed increases in fuel aridity from 1979 to 2015 across western US forests”

Contesting the reasoning in such papers could be fair game, and could even be skepticism (though, given the incredibly partisan slant of commentary it should be pretty obvious to a reasonable reader that immense motivated biases are in play).

But it is pretty striking that so much commentary and vitriol proceeds from absolutely missing the point by miles and taking a false premise for granted, without question. Thinking that if you can show the start of a fire was not due to “climate” (whatever that would mean) that therefore advocacy for greenhouse gas mitigation is flatly false propaganda in the same category as the claims that routinely recirculate in criticism of mainstream science (say that NOAA fraudulently adjusted the temperature record – a literal example of anti-science propaganda.)

In other words, the post and commentary here are yet another example of the *opposite* of skepticism, not examples of it.

Reply to  Geoff Price
April 7, 2019 4:39 pm

Climatechange Fighters started the fire.

Reply to  Geoff Price
April 7, 2019 4:49 pm

Fully grow forests have one of two destinies, they get cut down, or they burn down, our choice.

April 7, 2019 4:48 pm

Do an y of these people who believe that we can change the weather by raising taxes, ever pause to think, “But what about China and India ”

True they got a “Get out of jail free” card from Kyoto, but if the rising CO2 is truly a great danger to the world, then we cannot afford any such Get out cards to any country. Or we are Doomed as Frazer said. Hi.


Reply to  Michael
April 7, 2019 7:22 pm

Of course.

Relevant starting points for discussion –

The U.S. remains the largest carbon polluter in history, and the only country to walk officially from any responsibility for greenhouse pollution, via non-participation in Paris

U.S. emissions are on the rise

I believe U.S. per capita emission rates remain > 2x that of China, >8x that of India

“China, in its submission, said that, compared to 2005 levels, it would seek to cut its carbon emissions by 60 to 65 percent per unit of GDP by 2030. India said it would reduce its emissions per unit of economic output by 33 to 35 percent below 2005 by 2030”

“After adopting its final National Electricity Plan (NEP) earlier in 2018, India remains on track to overachieving its “2˚C compatible” rated Paris Agreement NDC climate action targets. Estimates show India could achieve part of its NDC goals—a 40% non-fossil-based power capacity by 2030—more than a decade earlier than targeted. But a question still remains over the future of coal.”

Reply to  Geoff Price
April 10, 2019 1:17 am

You have drowned in the Kool-aid, Geoff.
I’m not even going to try to introduce facts to your brain. It would be an impossible endeavor and might cause your brain permanent damage.

John Robertson
April 7, 2019 5:34 pm

Strikes me the airhead needs some pushback.
There are two coal veins burning in the Arctic Wilderness,which must be the most horrible carbon pollution possible, smouldering fossil fuel fires,..Federal responsibilities no less.
Naturally the combined federal and Territorial governments have made zero effort to put these century old fires out…
Yet we are lectured endlessly now as to how BAD this type of “pollution” is.
By the way,nice photo of the trust fund baby,that is one you will never see on CBC.

Edward A. Katz
April 7, 2019 5:59 pm

The big joke accompanying this carbon tax is that Environment Minister Catherine McKenna has conceded that it would have to rise to $300/tonne before it could have any effect on Canadian emissions. This would be 6 times higher than it’s planned to reach in 2022, but any government that attempted to raise it anywhere close to $300 would be voted out of office in short order. So since the current tax proposals will be ineffectual, it’s more than obvious they’re just another tax grab, and this is likely to be confirmed once Canadians see how the revenue is being spent. If it’s found to be going to prop up various social programs, their suspicions will be confirmed because this is what has happened to varying degrees in Alberta and British Columbia after they introduced their own provincial carbon pricing.

Reply to  Edward A. Katz
April 8, 2019 11:54 am

If you really want a window into the way the Green Blob has infested the Canadian government, follow Environment Minister Catherine McKenna’s twitter feed. (Sorry, the official title is “Minister of Environment and Climate Change”.) Beware, though, your IQ will probably drop 0.97% for each tweet read.

April 7, 2019 6:53 pm

‘Canada has jumped by 1.7 degrees since 1948.’

M’kay. What exactly is the problem?

Tom Foley
April 8, 2019 12:18 am

A construction project causes a forest fire. It happens to be a wind turbine project, so obviously renewables cause forest fires. On this logic, if it had been a construction project for a coal mine, that would mean coal power causes forest fires.

In fact faulty power lines cause lots of bush or forest fires. .

So we can we conclude that electricity causes bushfires, regardless of whether it’s from renewables or coal. Still, Jo Nova manages to blame renewables for power line initiated fires:

” The Green Industry could have cared enough about the environment to speak out about reducing fire risks through managing fuel loads, and the fires would have been less damaging. Instead they were busy putting up windfarms to stop bushfires instead.”

Do we really need to wait for the Greens to speak out before the rest of us get serious about managing fuel loads and stopping bushfires? And building non-flammable power poles? And maintaining power lines? Regardless of the origin of the electricity they carry? And managing fire risks on constructive sites, regardless of the purpose of the construction? (Would you listen to the Greens anyway?)

Reply to  Tom Foley
April 8, 2019 6:48 am

Granted, power lines and construction projects start fires regardless of the kind of electric power generation which engenders the use or activity. But, low density generators (wind, solar, etc) require more powerlines, roads, construction, etc. that in turn create more fires. So, build one conventional plant, with one set of power lines, or one hundred windmills with one hundred lines? Which costs more to maintain? Which is more vulnerable to fire/flood/wind/earthquake/… ?

April 8, 2019 8:00 am

Is he a graduate of the Jerry Brown School of Misinformation Money Laundering?

April 8, 2019 8:05 am

I’m thinking Trudeau meant that, regardless of how the fires started, “Climate change” is making them worse. That’s Wa State Gov Jay Inslee’s mantra, repeated ad nauseum with every interview. He is apparently ignorant of the history of his own state, or for the reasons it’s called the Evergreen State.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
April 8, 2019 4:08 pm

Abatzoglou 2016, “Impact of anthropogenic climate change on wildfire across western US forests”
“Anthropogenic climate change accounted for ∼55% of observed increases in fuel aridity from 1979 to 2015 across western US forests”

Reply to  Geoff Price
April 11, 2019 5:45 pm

Since no one can pinpoint the human fingerprint on climate, the paper is nonsense.

Russell Johnson
April 8, 2019 7:24 pm

Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Trudeau, May, Macron, Merkel are all cut from the same cloth–totally ultra liberal liars each and every one. Their propaganda is their truth and we’re the ones that must pay and pay and pay. No matter the price extracted they will always demand more; it’s too good a scam to give up………

April 9, 2019 2:59 pm

Seven immigration offices in China ,as a pay off to his most favored country and how much Chinese money went into the Trudeau Foundation ? What ever happened to a diverse immigration policy ?
Trudeau is a commie lover who has allowed Canada to be taken over without a shot . Not my words , my Chinese friends who laugh at how easy it was .
The west will separate long before Quebec and it’s coming .

Central Canada will reelect Trudeau and in one more term Canada will look like the shit show Ontario has become after his buddy Gerald Butts , former World Wildlife Fund President , help wreck it .
What kind of a dumb ass actually thinks budgets balance themselves . Trudeau .

Alan Davidson
Reply to  Amber
April 9, 2019 4:57 pm

I’m in “Central Canada” near to Ottawa. I don’t see much evidence that Trudeau and his Liberals will be re-elected in the federal election in October. They seem to be having one screw-up after another and people see them as greatly lacking in competence and ability to make sensible decisions.

Keith C. Cowan
April 11, 2019 10:21 am

Lots of insightful comments here. What happened to Allan and his a Doctor friend?

Jon Scott
April 12, 2019 7:10 am

What is really worrying is that he and his friends on the left realize they can openly lie now because they are supporting a religion and if they are caught out there are little or no consequences.

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