Leftists like Bill McKibben of 350.org suffer from irrational fantasies that lead them to believe that we can move society forward without all the benefits that petroleum brings to our modern society.
They’re dead wrong of course, and this short humorous video illustrates just what life might be like without the many products and energy sources that are derived from petroleum. My favorite is ink, which if we didn’t get from petroleum, we wouldn’t have to see print editions of NYT, WaPo, and the Lost Angeles Times, to name a few.
You also wouldn’t be able to read this article, because the very keyboard I am typing this on is made from plastic, which you guessed it, is derived from petroleum.
According to the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), this is a list of petroleum products and their share of total US petroleum consumption in 2013.
- Gasoline 46%
- Heating Oil / Diesel Fuel 20%
- Jet Fuel ( kerosene) 8%
- Propane / Propylene 7%
- NGL / LRG 6%
- Still Gas 4%
- Petrochemical Feedstocks 2%
- Petroleum Coke 2%
- Residual / Heavy Fuel Oil 2%
- Asphalt / Road Oil 2%
- Lubricants 1%
- Miscellaneous Products / Special Naphthas 0.4%
- Other Liquids 1%
- Aviation Gasoline 0.1%
- Waxes 0.04%
- Kerosene 0.02%
Here is a partial list of products made from petroleum.
There is a quite a large list of products made from petroleum. This list is constantly growing as new inventions are created. Here are some of the items which are made from petroleum.
| Solvents | Diesel fuel | Motor Oil | Bearing Grease |
| Ink | Floor Wax | Ballpoint Pens | Football Cleats |
| Upholstery | Sweaters | Boats | Insecticides |
| Bicycle Tires | Sports Car Bodies | Nail Polish | Fishing lures |
| Dresses | Tires | Golf Bags | Perfumes |
| Cassettes | Dishwasher parts | Tool Boxes | Shoe Polish |
| Motorcycle Helmet | Caulking | Petroleum Jelly | Transparent Tape |
| CD Player | Faucet Washers | Antiseptics | Clothesline |
| Curtains | Food Preservatives | Basketballs | Soap |
| Vitamin Capsules | Antihistamines | Purses | Shoes |
| Dashboards | Cortisone | Deodorant | Footballs |
| Putty | Dyes | Panty Hose | Refrigerant |
| Percolators | Life Jackets | Rubbing Alcohol | Linings |
| Skis | TV Cabinets | Shag Rugs | Electricianās Tape |
| Tool Racks | Car Battery Cases | Epoxy | Paint |
| Mops | Slacks | Insect Repellent | Oil Filters |
| Umbrellas | Yarn | Fertilizers | Hair Coloring |
| Roofing | Toilet Seats | Fishing Rods | Lipstick |
| Denture Adhesive | Linoleum | Ice Cube Trays | Synthetic Rubber |
| Speakers | Plastic Wood | Electric Blankets | Glycerin |
| Tennis Rackets | Rubber Cement | Fishing Boots | Dice |
| Nylon Rope | Candles | Trash Bags | House Paint |
| Water Pipes | Hand Lotion | Roller Skates | Surf Boards |
| Shampoo | Cell phone case | Paint Rollers | Shower Curtains |
| Guitar Strings | Luggage | Aspirin | Safety Glasses |
| Antifreeze | Football Helmets | Awnings | Eyeglasses |
| Clothes | Toothbrushes | Ice Chests | Footballs |
| Combs | CDās & DVDās | Paint Brushes | Detergents |
| Vaporizers | Balloons | Sun Glasses | Tents |
| Heart Valves | Crayons | Parachutes | Telephones |
| Enamel | Pillows | Dishes | Cameras |
| Anesthetics | Artificial Turf | Artificial limbs | Bandages |
| Dentures | Model Cars | Folding Doors | Hair Curlers |
| Cold cream | Movie film | Soft Contact lenses | Drinking Cups |
| Fan Belts | Car Enamel | Shaving Cream | Ammonia |
| Refrigerators | Golf Balls | Toothpaste | Gasoline |
Source: IAG
A.O.C. needs to walk the talk and stop using these products.
And AOC should consider not expelling CO2 with every breath. What could she possibly be thinking the hypocrite.
Not to mention her other noxious eructations
FOOD.
without petroleum, no tractors, no transport from farm to market, no markets for that matter.
You wonāt even have tent cities near farms because tents are made with hydrocarbons!
But, but, but … think of ALL the people who can be employed to offset the loss of tractors and mechanized farm equipment. Think of alllll the farriers needed to shoe alllll the horses necessary to pull the harvesters. All the weed pullers to offset the use of Roundup and similar chemical killers. Alllll the pickers moving from farm-to-farm, crop-to-crop … in mass walking migrations. And everyone making $15/hr minimum wage and FREE National Health Insurance. Think of allllll the Doctors we will need to care for all the farm injuries. Bad backs, worn out rotator cuffs, early deaths. Yeah, the good ol pre-industrialized World was soooooo romantic and wonderful. Living in harrrrrmony with nature.
And since there are no urea/ammonium fertilizers, corn crop yields can go back to pre-1930 values of 20 bu/acre. With mass starvation who is AOC saving the world for?
Herself alone
The Club of Rome
Brazil, India and China. Africa and many other underdeveloped nations will stay where the West will join them.
their standard of living will also decline – no food imports from more productive nations for one thing. No grain shipments overseas, both because there won’t be the grain surplus and because there would be no ships that can transport it there.
No, no no. There will be less people to feed and less people needed to feed them.
The intersection between socialism and technology is about to cross.
Extremely less consumption can be handled by extremely less demand from extremely less population supported by extremely more efficient production (ie robots and gmo).
So it goes.
Life becomes brutal and short. No refrigeration. No antibiotics. No hospitals. No CT or MRI scans. No planes. No trains. No cars or trucks. No concrete or asphalt paved highways. Decimation of forests for lumber to build…. everything. And more firewood to cook with and heat your homes.
And for what? A new age Luddite fantasy, based on the fraud that CO2 gas is ‘pollution’.
Stephen,
Right on.
Just the difficulties of transporting food and related produce to the markets in the cities will result in wide spread starvation.
Anyone who has studied economics can figure that out. Except the type of economics that AOC is supposed to have studied.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurc.com
There’s no way she got an economics degree through the normal method of studying and taking tests, as she’s totally economically illiterate. Either she performed some “special services” for her professors in exchange for better grades, or Boston University’s economic department should have its credentials yanked as they’re clearly not teaching economics.
Don, your last suggestion that Boston U have its credentials yanked for malfeasance and misfeasance. Problem is that many of our university economics departments are teaching their version of economics which has its bases in socialism, the evils of capitalism and economic justice.
I hope someone is running down AOC’s bar customers and finding out what AOC was like when she “worked.”
What she was like when she worked? She got fired. That should tell ya all you need to know.
A wood crate and pallet commune would spring up, the residents idly waiting to be served by the farmer.
@Stephen
The situation is neatly summarised in the title of this book:
“Eating Oil — Energy Use in Food Production”
Maurice B. Green
Westview Press 1978
I can’t picture her without 2 kg of lipstick!
R2DToo
Love to see it smeared over my coc…….Damn, fossil fuel allocation just ran out, switching to wind pow…….
You know that line that you shouldn’t step over? It’s behind you.
In reality everything that takes energy to manufacture like glass, steel, cement would likely not exist or the world would all look like Easter Island without moai.
Did that guy in the commercial have a door made of PVC or what? š¤
Most of my outdoor is probably solid wood, with exception to the lock that contains some plastic parts, but not a single electronic device works without plastics / petroleum based materials.
In addition, we use them indirectly in =everything= as production lines depend on fossil based electricity and fossil based transportation. There is not many products hauled by horse from the field or forest, and you can’t keep horses today without fossils.
People who don’t have this realism are very possibly gullible enough to vote for green parties, socialists, or even communists.
People who think we could stop using petroleum in transport and energy production in 20 years are severely deluded. It is so much worse than giving up convenient SUVs and replacing them with collective traffic. These people do not understand that succesfully decarbonizing the west would simply mean people will start moving from dying western countries to China, Russia, India and other places which have jobs, working economies, and carbon-enabled prosperity.
You can’t simply stop using fossils without an alternate plan. The GND is not one. And China is not a climate leader — it is the number one emitter in the world, larger per capita than e.g. the United Kingdom.
“There is not many products ”
Even poor grammar is powered by fossil fuels. š
ffs. That was poor, I admit.
It was more than likely was fiberglass.
Fiberglass (glass) needs fossil fuels to make too.
“Fiberglass” is a glass fiber web held in place by a petroleum based epoxy.
There is that too. I was thinking of what was needed to make the glass fiber.
PVC or fiberglass
Humorous, but not accurate – all the metal and those humans needed to blink out of existence too
Anyway to add to the list. Marijuana grow lamps, very important…
YUP! But the Leftists think that stopping CC (controlling the weather) is just a matter of political will, vote for socialists and then they will soak the rich, greedy oil companies. Liberals are such HYPOCRITES!! they all use fossil fuels every day.
“the rich, greedy oil companies” … whose owners include many pension/retirement funds
And once we “leave it in the ground”, those “rich, greedy oil companies” won’t have any revenue to tax. Similar problem to taxing fossil fuel use at the pump to maintain the roads, and then encouraging economical cars and electric cars. Duh.
And many roads are made from asphalt.
cement takes a lot of energy (usually fossil fuels) to make.
I often wonder just how many people know where cement comes from. Cement dust mines I suppose.
The video should include all things made with fossil fuels, not just petroleum products. Then just about everything but wood would disappear. Ironically, wind turbines and solar panels are made and installed using fossil fuels. To completely eliminate fossil fuels would be like taking society back about 200 years or more, but back then the technology could only support about 0.5 billion people and now there are close to 8 billion. A lot of people would have to die to go back to that technology.
” Then just about everything but wood would disappear”
Wood wouldn’t get to market without hydrocarbons, e.g., chainsaws, skid-steers, dozers, loaders, log haulers, drying kilns, lumber haulers, etc.
It would still get to market like it did back in the early 1800s. Sawmills would be set up along rivers for power sources and rough hewn lumber would be pulled by Horse and Mule delivered by wagons
Hauling lumber by mule and horse to a sawmill by a river might work east of the Mississippi. Where does the lumber for Oklahoma City, Dallas, etc. come from? Not much native lumber available around there.
Actually, back in “the day” there was a good bit of usable timber in the regions of OKC and Dallas and whatnot. It is just that all us Evil White People(patent pending) cut it all down and used it.(ya know how we be like) Hell, timber quality cottonwoods are still rather common, getting people to part with them is the issue now.
Now you just might as well FORGET about using horses and mules for hauling cut timber to sawmills and/or for hauling the sawed lumber anywhere ā¦ā¦.. because PETA would have you arse arrested ālickety splitā for the severe MISTREATMENT of animals.
2hotel9: You are thinking of east Texas and east Oklahoma, not Dallas and OK City. Those locations were part of the Great Plains where the buffalo roamed. The only places you found anything other than mesquite and scrub trees were along a few rivers that had water in them other than when it rained. Why do you think the early pioneers in TX, OK, KS, NE, etc built houses of SOD instead of lumber? It wasn’t because it was easier!
They definitely used any available trees, and soddies and adobe were very common till railroad made moving lumber and other materials a bit easier. Making bricks was an onsite operation well into the late 19th century, moving them any distance was a bit prohibitive. A friend in Oklahoma, west and north of Ft Sill, still has the soddie his great grandparents built, got a metal roof when they were “rich” in the ’20s, other than that still the same. Cottonwoods grew along most stream beds, some smaller than others, all got used for building something.
Use of cottonwood lumber is one of the main reasons so many old, old barns and fences wound up collapsed. Cottonwood lumber is light and easy to cut but twists like a pretzel as it weathers. The old blacksmithed “peg” nails simply weren’t capable of holding the wood in place. The Osage Orange was also available in Texas and Oklahoma but not good for lumber. It was used mainly for fencing, either in hedgerows or fence posts. The Osage Orange was imported into Kansas at some point, probably the last half of the 1800’s for the same purpose.
You use what is available. Adaptation. It is what humans do.
2hotel9: Now you are dissembling. Yes, you use what is available. But the point was that there wasn’t enough usable lumber around OK City and Dallas to supply their needs. There wasn’t in old times and there isn’t enough today.
And yet they built any way, using horse drawn wagons when materials in their area were used up or not adequate. Humans do things, even when they are hideously expensive and stupid. And don’t forget there were times of the year that sections of Trinity, Sabine and Brazzos could be used to pole boats and timber rafts. Not a whole lot of the year, and not big sections, it was done. I believe railroad did not come to the Dallas area until 1860s, maybe 1870. People were building in the region for a long time before that.
90% of the US would be dead before that could happen. There really aren’t many horses and mules anymore.
I recall a passage from the book Stilwell and the American Experience in China where he spoke of seeing a “giant caterpillar” which was several hundred men pushing a steam locomotive up a grade because it had stopped working. Where there is a will there is a way. And where there are sufficient numbers of laborers will can be applied to them.
theres quite a lot, its just theyre not suited for heavy hauling and you presently use em for petmeat or ship em to china/japan EU for human and pet food.
but yeah even the cattle wont be good for hauling like oxen were, tsk tsk
and Peta would have fits as commented above;-)
a lot of the oilbased stuff was made of wood or glass or leather prior like tap washers either presssed paper /felt or leather.
of course the skills to MAKE stuff also went a long time ago too
Steam engines would still work – think wood fired locomotives and stern wheelers on the Mississippi. The issue there is how to make the steel and iron without coal.
Farming would be a bi**h though. Horses, oxen and very large families to feed. [Need large families to make up for the infant/adolescent death rate and for farm workers]. Very hard to make more food to sell than the family uses though. Ask your wife if she likes the idea of having 10-12 children! I think I know what the answer is!
My father farmed with horses. He said it took 1/3 of the crops you raised to feed the horses.
The Flintstones got around with wood and stone cars. Look how long ago that was.
dentures also would be an issue. anyone want to go back to wooden dentures?
Don’t think there’d be wooden dentures either. Carving dentures from wood takes a chisel; a chisel is made by a blacksmith in a forge; a forge is fueled by coal or a gas of some kind. No coal or gas, no metalworking.
I suppose obsidian could work as a chisel.
“a forge is fueled by coal or a gas of some kind. No coal or gas, no metalworking.”
Charcoal would work, just not as effectively. Also, you’d be cutting down a _lot_ of trees to get enough charcoal.
That is what the Greens really want. “Mankind is a cancer on the face of the Earth.”
I’ll work up a business plan for a company to make renewable oil and products. It’ll be called Whalemart, with headquarters in Hawaii.
Whalemart – We Light The WORLD
Bryan you are forgetting that it is only the USA that is clamouring for this return to basic living. So only 350 million are involved. The rest of the 8 billion in the world will continue to live in the 21st Cent and look forward to the 22nd with China leading the way.
Footballs must be exceptionally important, they’re listed twice.
1) Oblate spheroid for American football and 2) round for the other kind of football.
Oh. They meant soccer balls. Got it. š
Film doesn’t go far enough. Roof caves in as the adhesives in OSB and plywood disappear; car disappears with gasoline gone – replaced with bicycle frame; grass looks mottled green w/o gas based fertilizer; guy instantly loses 10-20 lbs and shows signs of protein malnutrition…
funny how those malnourished elders of ours cleared acres of land by hand with some help from horse teams or oxen, built homes with handsawn planks/logs or handmade mudbrick didnt have obesity issues, probably had better educated and mannered kids too;-) no vandalism no spare time. I notice that usa clears roadsides so replanting fast growing tree all over every verge would give firewood coppicing in 10yrs of large volumes and might help snow loads on rds?
not all new stuff is good, not all old style was great.
I wouldnt worry if a lot of whats around now vanished as I dont use it anyywa.
i would miss my pc a lot though;-))
we would sure be recycling properly though for a change
I’d like to point out that those “elders” were 30-40 years old and most died in their 50’s. Generally their children were lucky if they were able to read a little and write their own name by the time they married and started their own families.
Nope. Elders were still in their 60’s or 70’s or occasionally older.
“Average life expectancy” is not a good indicator of actual length of life. What kills people in a pre-industrial society are: Infant mortality (if you make it to age 5 you’re likely to make it to adulthood), maternal mortality (pregnancy and childbirth are dangerous), farm accidents and war (take out the young men). If you survive all that, you stand a good chance of making it into old age.
Looking at the ages on gravestones in 18th and 19th century cemeteries, you’ll see a lot of infant deaths, a lot of young women (often same date of death as a child), a fair number of young men (though more of them are in military cemeteries), but those who made it in to middle age usually made it on in to old age.
In 1950 only 8% of the population made it to age 65. It was even fewer in the 1800’s. I’m not sure why you think that if you made it to middle age you would also make it to old age. Renal failure, heart failure, and pnuemonia were big killers of those over age 50 in those days. It’s one of the reasons why Soc Sec seemed like it wouldn’t be a big deal when it was established – hardly anyone lived to age 65!
“those who made it in to middle age usually made it on in to old age.” An old age of poverty, bad health, scanty food and bad water. Precisely what Democrats/Progressives want to drag the human race back into. You really want to be defending that?
Indeed Tim. When Social Security started in 1935 with a retirement age of 65, the life expectancy was 61. Now life expectancy is 75+. More people are living longer.
However, Hugh also has a point. life expectancy can be a bit skewed by the fact that many died in the very earliest years of life, whereas today the mortality rate at those young ages is lower. In 1940, when SS started making monthly payments, for those who reached adulthood (age 21) at that time, a little over half of them would be expected to live to age 65 (53% for men 60% for women). Fifty years later (1990), and around three quarters of those who reach adulthood at that time are expected to live to age 65 (72% men 83% women)
And if you did make it to 65 in 1940, you could expect to collect for 12 (male) to 14 (female) years whereas if you did make it to 65 in 1990, you could expect to collect for 15 (male) to 19 (female) years.
Bottom line is the closer you are to 65 the better your odds of living to see 65 (and beyond). That was true then and it’s true now. However, as pointed out, larger percentages of people died younger back than then they do now. And the people who did live long enough to collect didn’t get to collect for as long.
Or to look at it from another angle. In 1900, the elderly (65+) comprised only 1 in every 25 (that’s 4%) Americans. By 1994 they were 1 in 8 of the population (that’s 12.5%) and it’s estimated that it will be 1 in 5 by 2050 (that’s 20%).
I’ve had the thought of Hollywood making a full-length feature film about a future USA where fossil fuels (and crude oil in particular) are gradually phased out by federal law (or fossil fuels and fossil fuel-based products gradually and magically disappearing as in the post) with the aftermath of economic collapse and social upheaval that would follow it. It would I believe raise a few eyebrows and would get people to really start to think (and talk) about the rhetoric from the environmental movement and its mouthpieces in the mainstream media and government.
If you are going to phase out a technology, you have to do things in the right order. Right now, trying to force fossil fuels out of the picture in the absence of suitable replacement technologies (save for nuclear) is doing things bass ackwards. I certainly support technologies that are capable of scaling up to displace fossil fuels such as nuclear. But 4th gen nuclear, if it ever sees the commercial light of day, is still quite a ways off. It has yet to be seen if 4th gen nuclear lives up to its billing, but we’ll have wait and see while the R&D on them is being done. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Of course AOC and her Green New Deal could easily form the basis and inspiration for this film. Given how left wing Hollywood seems to be however, I find it highly unlikely that a movie of this type would get approved and funded. If it did see the light of day, such a film would no doubt be condemned by the eco-activists and their minions in the MSM and govt because it would seriously undermine everything they are trying to do. The truth can really hurt when it hits you.
Oh if I was only a bigtime Hollywood movie producer…
Maybe rapid phase-out of fossil fuels is the unspecified apocalypse that preceded the events of The Postman…..
On that book/movie, the obvious survival method would be “become a Survivalist”! And THOSE are the baddies!
In case readers of the blog haven’t met the book “The Postman” – it’s by David Brin, and he’s written a lot of good SF. His “Earth” for example shows a “Global Warm” world in a GOOD light, because people ADAPT!
Iāve had the thought of Hollywood making a full-length feature film about a future USA where fossil fuels (and crude oil in particular) are gradually phased out by federal law (or fossil fuels and fossil fuel-based products gradually and magically disappearing as in the post) with the aftermath of economic collapse and social upheaval that would follow it
There was a tv series a couple years back with a similar premise call Revolution. there was a “magical” (well weaponized nano-technology caused) worldwide electric power blackout.
Doors:
The Most Common Exterior Door Materials
Wood. Wood is the traditional choice for exterior doors, and it’s easy to see why: it’s beautiful and customizable. …
Steel. Insulated steel is praised for energy efficiency, security, and durability. …
Fiberglass. …
Aluminum. …
Vinyl.
whats that steel door insulated with???
Foam, or in the case of the side door my house in Fargo nothing, the steel door on the house when I bought it was a interior door, That on got replace rather fast, ad did most of the single pane windows.
and foam uses petroleum products.
Steel wool of course!
Grown by steel sheep!
Shearing those sheep however….
The incredibly versatile hydrocarbon family of natural resources and the carbon-based lifeforms that developed viable civilizations with a conservative perspective of life, love, and everything. #42
I love it – that list.
Gives a nice insight into someone’s life and their priorities.
Cassette tapes?
and their age
and isn’t ‘Transparent Tape made of cellulose (as in = Sellotape) and the glue is made of old cows
Gorra laugh
Does whoever have a day-job by any chance – I’m sure there must be openings for Lily Gilders *somewhere* on this Planet – will lead to a fruitful & productive future in their twilight years
Wait!! Climate Science is full of Lily Gilders.
maybe not
curiouser and curiouser – I iz intreeged – these kinds of things do tickle me.
What will they use to insulate the wires from Solar Panels and Wind Turbines?
“What will they use to insulate the wires from Solar Panels and Wind Turbines?”
Soy-based insulators. Actually, most cars from SE Asia use that kind of insulator. If you live in the country in Nevada, you see lots of cars in the driveway with the hoods up. They are not old wrecks, and they are not being worked on. The sunlight discourages the rats who think the insulation tastes really good. But then, the car does require repair to run.
We’re building lots of windmills so we can ship power to Kalifornia. I’ll bet they don’t use soy-based insulators. Too bad.
Add how will they transmit the electricity from the solar panels and wind turbines? You can’t mine and smelt copper without fossil fuels.
They used to use varnish and silk thread – still can.
What would life be like without fossil fuels such as gas and oil?
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shi*y
Yes, it would actually be rather like death for most of the people on the planet.
The list of items that DO NOT require fossil fuels at some point in their manufacture/transport/storage/use is a very very short list.
Humans built the modern world over hundreds of years with the sustained efforts and suffering of billions of people aided by the indispensable use of fossil fuels. The world cannot simply be re-invented in just a few years with just a bit of wishful thinking derived from adolescent ideology and good “green” intentions.
Someone needs to go get daddy’s belt.
“shi*y”
Is that better or worse than shi**y?
The real reason hydrocarbons have made us so prosperous is that the energy in them is so cheap. We can put more calories into food production than we get out and it doesn’t matter because the cost is low. Get rid of hydrocarbons and you lose that advantage. Pre-industrial farmers had to use animals that partially competed for the same food resource they helped produce, at dramatically lower efficiency of course. Energy advantage: gone. Without hydrocarbons all farming is little more than subsistence farming. Without hydrocarbons we are effed.
You pretty much nailed it. I can remember my grandfather and father talking about life on their small Kansas farm in the 20’s and 30’s. Almost everything they grew went to feed themselves or the animals, from goats to chickens to mules to horses. They did take eggs into town once in a while to sell.
Transportation of food to the cities simply won’t be a problem. There won’t be any food to transport! Ammunition, however, will be at a premium to protect the subsidence farm produce from the starving city dwellers!
Let’s not forget the sperm whale, which was hunted for its oil, which made for a nice smoke free light when burnt. I’m glad we don’t hunt them anymore.
Venezuela is leading the world in reducing their carbon footprint. They have been very forward looking and are rapidly shutting down their oil extraction and also greatly reducing their electricity usage. They have even gone the extra step by reducing their citizens caloric intake, thereby reducing the carbon dioxide they exhale.
This demonstrates how a powerful and forward looking leader like Maduro backed by a determined and well armed group of dedicated climate activists can save the world.
They have even gone the extra step by reducing their citizens caloric intake
However, some ungrateful citizens have been seen “cheating” the system by scavaging food scraps from garbage trucks. Looks like Venezuela needs to start filling the re-education camps with those cheaters. (need I add /sarc?)
Nobody should kid themselves – western civilization will cease to exist without hydrocarbons. Imagine what they will, hungry zombies will kill them and eat their children.
First try went into wordpress moderation. Let’s try this:
Nobody should kid themselves ā western civilization will cease to exist without hydrocarbons. LEt greens imagine what they will, hungry zombies will k!ll them and eat their children.
Hard, short and brutish.
I believe that many of y’all are missing the point.
These people don’t believe a word they are saying because they would have the commitment to not use them in all of the obvious ways that they are directly using hydro-carbon based products.
These people deliberately, and knowingly lie. They enjoy telling lies; their lives are empty unless they are on some campaign to mislead, misinform and emotionally charge people. They thrive off of the myrmidons who are incapable of rational thought who support these lies because they don’t know better and prefer the emotional high of magical thinking as opposed to facing reality.
Furthermore, these liars enjoy the celebrity status they get when telling these lies and well intended people trip over themselves to correct these lies. They are getting the attention they desperately need, they point at the skeptics claim how much of a victim they are to the evil Deniers and thus get a level of holiness attributed to them.
Which encourages them to tell even more bold lies, and to keep the dopamine rush, they get shriller and shriller.
I make this very point routinely. Environazi leaders don’t believe any of this. Envirotards gobble it up like ccandy.
And both believe that they’ll wind up in charge of this New Utopia.
They are in the government, elitists not beholden to the laws they make. They’ll have all the “luxuries” of a normal life, while the rest of us will live in a sh*thole existence.
‘We didn’t mean for all of those ‘other’ things to no longer be available, only the ‘bad’ things (cue back-lit cooling tower photo).
OOPS!!!
The GND-types need to look up ‘unintended consequences’
To summarize? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfSLuEj99d0
Tribology. The science of friction, lubrication and the actions of contact between surfaces.
Back to the days of whaling and the seal hunt with ships of sail.
Excellent example of dystopia.
Every time I give a lecture about mining, I start with this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp1t8rPVnpA
From now on I’ll finish saying: Now think, mining without oil? We would return to the Paleolithic.
They had mines in the Neolithic period. There’s one that’s been excavated in Norfolk, England — Grime’s Graves. Can’t say it was a fun job — but they made it work. Antler pickaxes, tallow lamps and tunnels you could just about crawl through. Interestingly, there was industrial specialization back then. Mining was one village’s operation, another one worked the flints, which were then traded across southern England.
Grime’s Graves is a fascinating site — I first went there as a kid, when a lot of it was open to the public and you could climb down a 30ft ladder into the mine and crawl through a couple of the tunnels. Terribly unsafe –couldn’t possibly let kids do that now!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grime%27s_Graves
Yes, a very informative video, but the mistake that normal people make is that they think they can reason with leftists. You can’t. Whether it is from hatred or ignorance they are wedded obsessively to their beliefs. They want the world to be a certain way, so they act out the fantasy that it is that way. For example, they are so emotionally tied to their desire for a 100% ‘renewable’ energy world that it has become reality to them. Look at their language: solar and wind are coming down in price and will soon be cheaper than coal; batteries will one day be able to store all our energy needs; electric vehicles are coming down in price and will soon be able to travel 1,000 miles and be recharged in under 10 minutes – and so on. It’s always the same: they so much want it all to be true that they act on the basis that all their wishes are coming true.
And you have just described a spoiled brat stuck on demanding “I want what I want!” So many of the genuine grownups have left the scene that we are left with the puerile who can’t be bothered to actually dig down for what has provided them their own life’s essentials, as they ingraciously float along on the accomplishments of their forebears whom they witlessly despise for being ‘so yesterday’. Meanwhile they virtue signal contrived substitutes for genuine virtues to assure themselves of some worth.
“What would life be like without fossil fuels such as gas and oil?”
Venezuela only worse.
Or the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, where 24% of the population was dead within four years.
It might be an idea to give the pupils who skipped class a copy of the list and get them to tick off the items that they would willingly sacrifice to achieve their aim of stopping the use of fossil fuels.
As an aside there was a very comprehensive look at the importance of the much criticised diesel engine on BBC 4 called ‘ The engine that powers the world ‘ , but it is ‘not available’ on the BBC website now. I wonder why? However it seems to be available on:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5v74wq
It would be interesting to see how all the uses could be replaced by electric vehicles, and how would we generate the amount of electricity be.
..electricity needed.
the film clip is a black nothing for me.
anyone got a link to whatever it is?
No steel.
If you control co2 you control everthing.
what life might be like without the many products and energy sources that are derived from petroleum.
[] ink, which if we didnāt get from petroleum, we wouldnāt have to see print editions of NYT, WaPo, and the Lost Angeles Times, to name a few.
The Guardian has an work around – oktopus ink:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/aug/09/why-do-cephalopods-produce-ink-and-what-on-earth-is-it-anyway
partial list of products made from petroleum:
Hair Curlers + clip hair + hair extensions + etc.pp.