I must have slept through that event, thankfully, I’m still here. Global Warming zealots have been predicting doom for years, the latest being that we now have only 12 years left.
But, back in 1989, we were told we have only 11 years left, till the year 2000. If we didn’t act, “entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels“.
That date came and went. Yet here we are again, with the same old doom-mongering.
Don’t believe me? AP archived the story here:
https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0
And, I’ve saved it as a PDF, since things like this tend to get “disappeared”.
There are two things wrong with your description of the article. To begin with, it was not “The U.N. told us” but “A U.N. official told us.” Further, his claim is not that there will be a catastrophe by 2000 if we do nothing, but that if we do nothing by 2000, there will eventually be a catastrophe. That’s similar to claims made by other alarmists with other dates–that we have only X years to reduce our CO2 emissions, and if we don’t we will pass the point at which it is possible to prevent a future environmental catastrophe.
The proper response to such claims is not to point out that the catastrophe hasn’t yet happened, since that isn’t inconsistent with the alarmist claim. It is to point out that if the alarmist really believes what he said, it is now too late to prevent catastrophe, so he should stop trying to persuade people to cut emissions and instead encourage them to dike their coasts, build up stores of food, or, if none of that helps, eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
I have not yet observed any of the catastrophists whose deadline has passed follow out the logic of their claims.
Nope, just like the telemarketers who call for the 27th last chance to take advantage of their once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
Washington State seems to be holding up well, despite lurid warnings of impending catastrophe. Seattle is a mess however….. a self-induced mess.
“Poor AOC. Megalomania got the best of her when she decided to debate Patrick Moore, former President of Greenpeace-Canada. ”
https://www.inquisitr.com/5322741/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-called-pompous-little-twit-by-greenpeace-co-founder-trump-mocks-green-new-deal/
We are doomed! Well, I guess we’ve always been doomed:
http://youtu.be/FZuBWeaQmlk
Nice video!
Killer bees did me in long ago and I’m doing my time posting in this Purgatory.
There is a backed by irrefutable facts consensus that climate research is an exact science.
*palmface*
I’m out for a coffee, anyone could toss me an aspirin ?
http://www.bluecommunity.info/topics/view/51cbfc77f702fc2ba8129a34/
“…Dr. Noel Brown is the former Director of the United Nations Environment Programme, North American Regional office. Dr. Brown holds a B.A. in Political Science and Economics from Seattle University, an M.A. in International Law and Organization from Georgetown University and Ph. D. in International Relations from Yale University…
WTF would he know? Scientific credentials only seem to matter if you are a skeptic.
“The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown.”
Finally I can understand the need to continually adjust the temperature records.
Those useless instruments are showing nothing near that!
If 1 to 7 degrees were “most conservative,” then what would moderate and high-end ranges have been? 7 to 13 and 13 to 19?
This is like predicting imminent destruction of a city from a nearby dormant volcano only to end up without even any harmonic tremors.
So the most absurd aspect of “entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth” is that there been no movement towards that happening at all.
It’s not like it’s underway but a few years off.
There are no signs of it happening at all.
Of course tall tales are abundant in efforts to keep the meme alive.
I tell people that I will starting man-made global warming more serious when, and only when, their predictions improve to 1% accurate.
People living in comfortable surroundings, are susceptible to conflate logical domains, operating well beyond science’s near-space and time, and indulge in predictions fueled by inference for short-term secular gains and democratic leverage. This is the observable, reproducible force and direction of evolution (e.g. human life).
n.n: lovely
IMO, they (climate catastrophists) have only one way to control the conversation: to ‘confess’ that they understated natural variability, and we have entered a short-term cold spell like the 1970s; that temperatures won’t get as low as then because of our contribution to warming; when the normal (which they won’t define) climate returns it will be hotter that the 1930s; and when natural variability turns hot like in the 1930s, our added warmth will cause catastrophes. But rest assured, everything is WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. WE CAN’T PREDICT IT (finally, a grain of truth). Please send more money so we can research this further.
Sadly, I think you are almost certainly going to be correct.
When it comes to climate alarmism, it seems like the more wrong predictions you make, the more credibility you acquire. So it’s pretty safe to go out on a limb and predict the end of the world.
In spite of all the failed predictions, I’ll venture to make one of my own…….. within no more than a month our average temperature will rise an astonishing ten degrees or more. At least I sure hope so.
that is only true for the North have the the planet
that is only true for the North half the the planet
History is replete with doomsday predictions whose deadlines come and go, yet the Earth continues to spin on…
Around here alarmists are continually claiming they see climate change all around them.
With that kind of belief system gripping so many people ………………
If it were not such a serious topic it would be a laugh. Just like the story about the disappearing rats. At first they had a plan for their recovery and did did not believe that climate change would be enough to impact them significantly. The rats disappeared and it was “probably” climate change. The 2 to 3 inches of sea level rise just devastated them evidently. By the time the story get to a reporter climate change is the cause and the only cause.
The Press are slightly lazy and time pressed. That’s why every new prediction of climate catastrophe, laid out in a press release, is seized on greedily and printed.
It needs a new “body” of experts, with sufficient letters after their names, to annually present a new “Wilson Award”, to the most provably ridiculous climate prediction. I’ve called it the Wilson Award because he said;
“When the Paris Exhibition [of 1878] closes, electric light will close with it and no more will be heard of it.” – Oxford professor Erasmus Wilson”, although other well known scientists are available.
Although he was probably representative of 98% of scientists who believed that the science on electricity was settled in 1878 it’s very lucky that the 2% ignored him.
The Award could be presented after careful deliberation of the climate fails for that year and notified to the world by press release. It will get publicity.
So you think AOC want’s to look at any facts, along with all the other Dems…???
Now there are too many whales.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/queensland/humpback-whales-at-risk-from-population-explosion-20190304-p511me.html
If in 1989 the world was doomed in 11 years and 30 years later it will be doomed in 12 years then by logical progression in 2049 the world will 13 years later in 2062.
Have they ever got anything right? Ever?
It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.
Attributed to Mark Twain.
Attributed, but there’s no evidence he ever actually said it. The earliest known instance of any variation of the phrase is “Farvel Og Tak” (released in 1948) by Danish politician Karl Kristian Steincke which attribute it to something said in relation to the Danish Parliament of the 1930s (well after Twain’s death) with Early English appearances of the quote (from the 1950s) citing the Danish origins e.g. “Alas, it is always dangerous to prophesy, particularly, as the Danish proverb says, about the future.”
bottom line: while it’s possible Mark Twain said it or something like it (it certainly sounds like something he might have said), there doesn’t appear to be any record of him doing so.
Rinse. Repeat.
Now we’ve got twelve more years.
And in twelve, we’ll have twelve more.
If any of us are still here after the ‘New Green Deal’.
I think we’ve all misunderstood AOC’s talking points (not surprising considering how unintelligible she can be). It’s not that we currently have 12 years left, it’s that we will have 12 years left once her “Green New Deal” is in place. I think she’s being generous, it won’t take the full 12 years to turn the US into Venezuela under the Green New Deal.
So – twelve years to DESTROY the planet – or at least modern western civilization – AFTER she implements her green doctrine.
I agree – it won’t take nearly that long.
The article doesn’t say when the disaster will hit. Just that we had to stop it by 2000.
So if the disaster hits in the year 3000, they can still claim to be right.
It also said that we had to reverse the trend by 2000 to avoid the disaster. We didn’t reverse the trend therefore it’s too late to avoid the disaster, so we need not waste our time on these green initiatives that are decades too late to stop the coming apocalypse!
Just playing devil’s advocate here, but the prediction is that drastic action must be taken by that time. Not that catastrophe would occur by that time. So if some catastrophe occurs some time in the future, they can claim they accurately predicted it. Also convenient, if some catastrophe does not occur some time in the future, they can claim their timely actions averted it. Heads I win, tails you lose.
You will find almost every warmist statement worded in similarly convenient terms.