Oh this is precious. California’s senator Dianne Feinstein is facing criticism over a video showing her responding to a group of children and teenagers asking her to support the Ocasio-Cortez backed Green New Deal.
The video clip, which was posted on Twitter, shows Feinstein meeting with some kids that are part of the Sunrise Movement. The kids were asking her to support the “Green New Deal”.
Feinstein rebuked the young activists’ request, in the video, one kid says:
“The government is supposed to be for the people, by the people, and all for the people.”
Feinstein responded:
“I’ve been doing this for 30 years. I know what I’ve been doing,”
“You come in here and say it has to be my way or the highway. I’ve gotten elected. I just ran. I was elected by almost a million vote plurality and I know what I’m doing. Maybe people should listen a little bit.”
The conversation continues:
“I hear what you’re saying,” “But we’re the people who voted you, you’re supposed to listen to us.”
“How old are you?” Feinstein asks her.
“I’m 16,” the kid responds.
“Well, you didn’t vote for me,” Feinstein says.
LOL I don’t know what’s worse; kids being used for propaganda, or an old political crony more concerned about votes than issues.
But, at least senator Feinstein realizes the “Green New Deal” is an unworkable fantasy, and rightly rejects it.
Feinstein’s office issued a damage-control statement Friday evening, saying:
Apparently, “real and meaningful” doesn’t include the AOC fantasy Green New Deal.
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The Sunrise Movement is abusing these children by scaring them to death and using them as pawns in their political games.
One little girl at the meeting blurted out that “we only have 12 years!” No doubt, she thinks she only has about 12 more years of life.
The little girl is going to be very angry in 12 years when nothing happens and she realizes she has been fooled by people with political agendas who thought it was a good idea to scare little girls to death in furtherance of their goals.
It’s Child Abuse! It’s Truth Abuse! Leave the Kids out of it!
They’ll be even more brain washed in 12 years.
Their brains will be washed so much that they’ll be brain-wiped.
Excellent.
That little girl said “scientists” say we only have 12 years.
Someone should tell her that AOC is NOT a “scientist” and what the “scientist” she’s been told to revere were saying 30 years ago.
(Was there snow on the ground in DC when these kids showed up?)
Truth, that.
But, having had a fair number of weeks doing just as you describe, so long as you don’t get wet, and have sufficiently warm layers, you adjust pretty fast. Getting up at oh-dark-hundred, to light the wood stove, with fingers so cold you just can’t feel the splinters is a joy not to be forgotten. However, the real joy of having the whole cabin warm up in an hour to quite pleasant warmness is a delight.
Then, going outside to find the tray of yesterday’s caught fish with the trout frozen hard … is disappointing. Reminder to self, take today’s trout inside tonight. When the sun finally comes up, with thin-but-serviceable coffee in your craw, your fingers tingling with bloodflow, your toes complaining about the tightness of the boots and 3 layers of socks… outside you venture, for some kindling chopping. And to use the privy.
The root cellar is a mixed bag: being marooned for a WHOLE winter at 8,500 feet (Rockies, Colorado) is a culinary hardship, to be sure. Yet, the roots last pretty good, as long as you don’t let ’em freeze. Or, if they do freeze, you don’t let them thaw again until needed. Spuds are pretty durable, and in that wood oven, they roast up pretty tasty. With neither thermometer or timer or iPhone or sandglass.
However, without meat, animal protein (or fishies), you’re pretty much a goner. Its less about protein than the complex fats, enzymes, vitamins, minerals. While it is prosaic to think about simmering pots of beans and steamers of rice (and baked potatoes, and resurrected carrots), they just don’t do it all. Gotta have the fishies, or hung cured meats, or fresh trapped and hunted vittles. And a lot of backup knives, axes, hatchets, sharpening stones.
Where I stayed we din’t run into bear, at least not in Winter. Nothing more pessimistic than a few wolverines. And they really don’t like people, stay away. Even when the aromas of cooking entice them to insobrietious misadventures.
Mostly your worst enemy is boredom.
And getting wet. And getting lost near dusk.
But those are solved with companions, with spare clothes, with really solid packs and tough silk topographic maps of the area. And a compass. Its funny when the sun goes down how you really do lose a sense of where you are, without a compass.
It’d definitely cure ’em of their idealism.
And they’d come out with a taste for hare.
Not rare hare, either.
LOL
GoatGuy
Huh? … yet your cabin in the woods has GREAT wi-fi… go figure
So here’s the thing kids: bottom line is the 12 year thing is a lie. Whoever convinced you of that is lying to you. They may sincerely believe it, but it’s a lie just the same. So the thing to ask yourself is, “I wonder what else they’re lying to me about?” You’re smart. If you think for yourself you’ll figure it out.
Dolphin: One of the things I learned in my professional life, and which I try to pass on to my young is the old trick of asking ‘why?’ – to the seventh!
‘Twelve years? You say.’ ‘Why 12?’…..and so on….
Rep. Ocasio said we only have 12 years, so it must be true. She’s an expert on everything and wouldn’t lie.
Reminds me. https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1098985879853563905
Mao mobilized 12, 13, and 14 year old children to launch the Cultural Revolution. When he was done with them they were sent into the squalid countryside to help with the harvest. Today this generation bemoans the years of education it lost.
The ones you attack are the ones fighting for your future. You will realize that some day.
This is why you never send your kids to government schools.
Strangely, the (mis-)quote from one of the teenagers about: ‘of the people, by the people, etc’ was not the one that came to mind. More like: ‘You can fool all of the people some of the time; some of the people all of the time; but not all of the people all of the time.’ (Although, it seems some are trying to fool all of the kids all of the time).
The econazi indoctrination of these children should be criminalized.
It is frankly unacceptable to see a teacher (?) behave in this way.
She should be fired.
Of course the established democrats aren’t keen on the green deal and Occasio Cortez… because unlike the Republicans they understand these ideas are going to seize the imagination of the young and be run away successes.
Griff,
How many young people oppose cars, planes and dairy products? How many want to support strangers who don’t want to work?
We understand the power of malicious stupidity and grievance mongering little tiny troll. We have been fighting it all our lives. Some with their voices. Some at the risk of death. Against racism, against socialist poverty, for open minds and opportunities. You are using the technology our principles made possible.
WE created the opportunity for you to speak nonsense freely. You’re welcome.
So, griff, by your post you really do believe that the AOC GND call to replace all US transportation that is currently powered by fossil fuels (including aircraft transportation) with EVs and high speed rail within the next 10 years is realistic and will be a “run away success” (your words)?
The stupidity, it burns.
What color sky do you have on your planet, Griff? Just womdering…
Is this what you have in mind, griff? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Mg6Gfh9Co
Obviously, Griffie has been subjected to the same brainwashing rammed down the throats of those kids by our resident ecobrownshirts.
The independent people of Venezuela are being seized (and killed) as we speak.
lets invade and screw the fallout. At this point we need to be in it to win it. I would be happy to go. Again. Scumbags gotta go down and everybody needs to witness it. Anybody gets in the way they get dropped like a bag of crap. Particularly vertically challenged Russians. We have the power. Use it.
Raw and true. The hegemon acts alone. It’s cleaner.
Oh, come on man!
Griff, that was a horrible troll. It’s clear you don’t even buy what you’re selling with that one.
Look. Have another cup of coffee and come back in a couple of hours. We’ll give you a do-over.
Give the girl a Tide pod to throw into that coffee or just to suck on for a while (or even to wash some undies).
Heh, running away with a fantasy is not sustainable.
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Like most leftists, griff is utterly convinced that this time, communism is going to work.
I’m curious as to how many of these eco-kids are managing a 4 or 5 acre plot of land as a garden, growing the food that their family will use over the next 10 to 12 months, and how many of them have any idea where their food really comes from.
Do they understand the rather vast interconnection between the clothing they wear and what it takes to produce the raw materials to make it? Doubtful. A lot of US cotton comes from Texas and other areas in the south. I once talked to a sheep ranch manager in the PacNW who told me that he ran a minimum of 5,000 head of sheep to fill orders from Pendleton and other wool buyers. Even back in the Elizabethan period, and going forward, there were farmers raising chickens for household sales of eggs and meat, along with other livestock. The Industrial Revolution simply increased production levels, and that was long before any of the things we take for granted now existed.
Modern refrigeration? The monitor top antique fridges are available, restored to working condition, if you want one. That’s a 1920s item. Before that, it was icehouses where ice cut from ponds and rivers was stored for spring through fall, to keep food cold, and when iceboxes were developed, a big ice block went into a compartment next to the food compartment.
If these kids really want what they are describing (and I’m not one bit sure they really understand any of it), then put them and their ridiculous parents into the 18th century and let them find out what it was like before all this modern stuff that they take for granted came along. I doubt that any of them have EVER seen smog, or had to use a privy or pump water by hand and have the well tested regularly to make sure it’s fit for human consumption. I doubt seriously that they could last the 16 hours it took to get electricity back up and running in my area in November when an ice storm dragged the power lines into zero transmission.
This nonsense gets tiresome after a while. These kids and their obnoxious parents need a hard dose of reality. It isn’t all sunshine and flowers in the real world.
It would be interesting to visit their homes and remove any fossil fuel derived creature comforts or necessities and sever their tie with the grid. They need to realize what divesting from fossil fuel really feels like. Take their gas ICE engine vehicles and replace them with electric only with a 100 mile range then send them on a 300 mile journey.
Of course the Leaf will not have rubber tires on it’s wheels
Feinstein — hmmm, that would be the same political apparatchik that fabricated the false accusations at the Kavanaugh hearing. And also sheltered a Chinese spy for many yrs.
To the comment from Tom Abbott,
What you say is true, but only if the kids survive the 12 years to see the lie. Teen suicide is on a hockey stick path along with emotional problems etc and etc. Being a teen is hard enough without the vision of the Grim Reaper coming quickly to end your short life.
I’m sure our educational system is to blame along with helecopter parents – but the thought of life ending soon is clear to many young people – witness the person who exploded after Trump won shouting to the Democratic Leadership ” You’ve just killed me”
Really some sad sad stuff.
“Really some sad sad stuff”
Yes, it really is. These poor kids think they are going to die in 12 years. That has to be extremely traumatic. And they won’t find out the truth for 12 years. Twelve years of trauma and stress, and feeling like there is no future.
Too bad they didn’t read Tony Heller’s website. If they had, they would find an article there that shows there was another 12-year period of predicted CAGW doom in our recent past when it was stated that we only had 12 more years to do something before it was too late. This dire prediction took place in 1988.
Kids, we lived through that one without anything bad happening, and this latest ridiculous dire 12-year warning will end up the same. Kids, in 12 years you will understand the situation much better than you do today. I lament that you have to wait 12 years to learn this lesson. Twelve years of torturing yourself. This false narrative is child abuse, plain and simple.
This is the fallout from Climategate and the dishonest surface temperature data manipulators. They have created a false, fearful CAGW narrative and are beating the kids (and adults) over the head with it.
It’s criminal..
Hitler Youth Parade circa 1937…..
CD in Wisconsin
Good point. We must include all those other times when young innocence was subverted and children were indoctrinated into thinking and doing terrible things, at the same time believing they were righteous. China’s Cultural Revolution made full use of children to attack authority figures:
http://laurenream.github.io/culturalrevolution/images/chineserevolutionaries-2000×817.jpg
Sadly Stephen, history has a tendency to repeat itself more often than we probably care to admit to. Those who do not heed history’s lessons are the ones most likely to repeat its mistakes.
It is interesting that the back-bone of such organisations are supposedly well educated people. That raises the question of what ‘educated’ means? Of course I don’t mean that ignorance or the uneducated are better, but perhaps reading books alone and knowing the ideas within books is not education. Knowing the theory of music inside out doesn’t make anyone a musician, in fact knowing the theory of anything is worthless unless put into practice. However, there are numerous studies that are primarily theoretical. It is interesting the difference between people like Karl Marx and Charles Dickens. Both wrote about the inequalities and injustices of the societies they were in but Dickens is the more humane and ultimately useful. I think that is because he had first hand experience of life’s difficulties and he was a superior observer able to comprehend the complexities and contradictions of life. Dickens wrote about people and Marx wrote about theory. You cannot observe by only studying and also the best learning is doing.
…And when I say doing I mean something useful and meaningful. How about creating energy such as electricity?
Heh, like red pepper to dynamite.
H/t Bernie Shaw.
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“That raises the question of what ‘educated’ means?”
When the left say ‘educated’, they usually mean ‘schooled’.
In the modern world, the more years you spend in school, the more indoctrinated you are, and the less you know about the real world. That’s why so many ‘educated’ people for for left-wing nonsense; it’s all they heard for most of the first twenty to thirty years of their life.
Yep, but I’d venture that on the scale of children and youth being used as shock troops for the ideas of those who have removed critics, the Young Pioneers, and Red Guards represent a much better example 🙂
Any educator teaching this garbage needs to be fired immediately.
So Feinstein realized the GND is baloney. Good for her, but as the saying goes; even a blind squirrel finds a nut one in a while.
When she was the Mayor of San Francisco in the 1980’s she verbally backed eco-loons who wanted to restore the Hecht Hechty reservoir. Once comparable to Yosemite this valley was flooded to supply fresh water to San Francisco. The Reagan administration called her out by expressing it’s willingness to do this. She did a 180 saying it was impractical.
She’s proven that she will say whatever in the moment.
The Gray New Deal is founded on an unrealized hypothesis, a conflation of logical domains, and motivated by clean, renewable greenbacks.
Should have asked the kids why they think climate sensitivity is very high and how did they reach that conclusion.
The smart ones would do as everyone else does on the warming side of this issue and argue from authority….the 97% nonsense etc., freeing them from the scientific requirement of factual understanding in order to have a valid opinion.
The kids never heard of George, Feinstein for sure has. Could it be George’s money is sinking the Dems – has that boat taken on too much water?
The March 15 “School Strike 4 Climate” day, especially venal targeting vulnerable youth to boycott classes, to protest that adults are too slow to act against C02, targets nations including the US, Germany, Sweden, Australia, and many more.
The idea that this climate action day is a “grass roots,” locally run phenomenon, is bunk – a key coordinating outfit is 350.org, present in 180 nations, which has received millions in funding since its founding in 2007, from the George Soros-funded Tides Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and others.
This echoes the Davos billionaires’ invitation to a young climate-anxious Swede where George gave the keynote address.
I bet those Klimate Kidz keep little black notebooks, ready to “write up” anyone, kid or adult for their “climate missteps”.
All the while they wait to be fitted for their brown shirts and jack boots.
There is a similarity in this with those that prophecy the end of the world and cults like Jim Jones’. The most obvious is Harold Camping who managed to get people to part with life savings to support his organisation. He predicted the world would end on:
September 4 or 6, 1994.
May 21st 2011
Oct 21st 2011
AOC has a comic book coming out called: ” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez And The Freshman Force. Issue #1, New Party: Who Dis?”
On the cover she is dressed as Wonder Woman and is standing on the corpse of a Red Elephant.
https://www.firstcomicsnews.com/devils-due-present-a-commemorative-comic-book-celebrating-aoc-americas-superstar-new-congresswoman/
Very interesting. I see the Senator as someone who is confronted by some overly optimistic zealots operating on limited information with great hopes and plans. She is struggling because she sees their plans as unrealistic because of her greater knowledge and because she has put more effort into it.
At the same time the Senator has a “greenplan” that is similarly well intentioned but that should be judged as overly optimistic and zealous because it was formed with limited information and grand hopes.
It’s hard for people of knowledge and prudence to confront naive earnest believers at all levels,
It’s hard for knowledge and experience to hold up against naive
Even harder to hold up against big money.
The good Senator knows very well which money put these kids at her door, and exactly the same money put Obama in the WH who signed the Stimulus Act 2009 giving the GND.
A buck too far?
The success rate for billionaires running for office is very low.
Ironically, none of these children (including AOC) has ever known or experienced ANY significant warming. GK
Madam Feinstein should have done “Trump”
“Hi kids,
Nice to see you. Do you believe in Santa Claus”
” … but … but we are here to talk about climate change ….”
“now, now climate change is for the silly grown ups … lets all sing a harpy little tune”
https://youtu.be/zcAwOwocHDQ
As I tried to correct ‘happy’ typo I accidentally hit ‘return’ and post disappeared into Ether.
The last line that was meant to go after the link:
“…. There, there … you see kids, that little happy tune tells everything you need to know about the catastrophic global warming”
I think “harpy” works for Feinstein.
” We gain our innocence by taking yours” 1000 Maniacs Give em what they want
I happen to have read Stephen King’s “It” (the horror novel) not that long ago, so I find it easy to think of a lot of these grandstanding alarmists (like the teacher in the video maybe), as, well, you know —
“eViL cLoWnS, who StAnd rEadY to sCaRe the LyFFe from bOtH you oLdEr and yOuNgEr children . . .”
— and, say, how about an “It” like quote such as “Oh My Yes, you’ll really Float in that Awful Future when the Langoliers descend from a Green and Murky Sky, yes Float you will —
Neah, its a nice try, anyhow.
I just finished some work I’m a house in San Francisco of which the occupants are committed Democrats. I’m sure their behind the Green Deal. Meanwhile they heat a huge house to 80 degrees even when they’re not there and spend their time flying all over the world. They’ll use as much energy in a month as I do in 5 years. But I’m sure their young children will be Democrats and ‘environmentalists’
““Well, you didn’t vote for me,” Feinstein says.”
What she really meant was “You didn’t donate any money to me”.
Now, as a Senator, she is supposed to represent the State of California in the federal government not just those who voted for her or donated money to her.
If you don’t get elected, what you think doesn’t mean shit. If you don’t raise money, you don’t get elected.
“How old are you?” Feinstein asks her.
“I’m 16,” the kid responds.
“Well, you didn’t vote for me,” Feinstein says.
LOL I don’t know what’s worse; kids being used for propaganda, or an old political crony more concerned about votes than issues.
Reminds me of a line from Summertime Blues:
… Well’ I went to my congressman
He said ‘quote’
‘I’d like to help you son,
But you’re too young to vote’ …
“And there ain’t no cure for the
Not so warm, Wintertime Blues . . .”