From NASA Earth Observatory and the “doing what ice shelves normally do but now we have satellites to observe them” department.
Countdown to Calving at Brunt Ice Shelf
Cracks growing across Antarctica’s Brunt Ice Shelf are poised to release an iceberg with an area about twice size of New York City. It is not yet clear how the remaining ice shelf will respond following the break, posing an uncertain future for scientific infrastructure and a human presence on the shelf that was first established in 1955.
The cracks are apparent by comparing these images acquired with Landsat satellites. The Thematic Mapper (TM) on Landsat 5 obtained the first image (left) on January 30, 1986. The second image (right), from the Operational Land Imager (OLI) on Landsat 8, shows the same area on January 23, 2019.
The crack along the top of the January 23 image—the so-called Halloween crack—first appeared in late October 2016 and continues to grow eastward from an area known as the McDonald Ice Rumples. The rumples are due to the way ice flows over an underwater formation, where the bedrock rises high enough to reach into the underside of the ice shelf. This rocky formation impedes the flow of ice and causes pressure waves, crevasses, and rifts to form at the surface.
The more immediate concern is the rift visible in the center of the image. Previously stable for about 35 years, this crack recently started accelerating northward as fast as 4 kilometers per year.

The detailed view shows this northward expanding rift coming within a few kilometers of the McDonald Ice Rumples and the Halloween crack. When it cuts all the way across, the area of ice lost from the shelf will likely be at least 1700 square kilometers (660 square miles). That’s not a terribly large iceberg by Antarctic standards—probably not even making the top 20 list. But it may be the largest berg to break from the Brunt Ice Shelf since observations began in 1915. Scientists are watching to see if the loss will trigger the shelf to further change and possibly become unstable or break up.
“The near-term future of Brunt Ice Shelf likely depends on where the existing rifts merge relative to the McDonald Ice Rumples,” said Joe MacGregor, a glaciologist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center. “If they merge upstream (south) of the McDonald Ice Rumples, then it’s possible that the ice shelf will be destabilized.”
The growing cracks have prompted safety concerns for people working on the shelf, particularly researchers at the British Antarctic Survey’s Halley Station. This major base for Earth, atmospheric, and space science research typically operates year-round, but has been closed down twice in recent years due to unpredictable changes in the ice. The station has also been rebuilt and relocated over the decades. The detailed image shows the station’s location (Halley IV) until it was closed in 1992. In 2016-2017, the Halley VI station was relocated to a safer location (Halley VIa) upstream of the growing crack.
Calving is a normal part of the life cycle of ice shelves, but the recent changes are unfamiliar in this area. The edge of the Brunt Ice Shelf has evolved slowly since Ernest Shackleton surveyed the coast in 1915, but it has been speeding up in the past several years.
“We don’t have a clear picture of what drives the shelf’s periods of advance and retreat through calving,” said NASA/UMBC glaciologist Chris Shuman. “The likely future loss of the ice on the other side of the Halloween Crack suggests that more instability is possible, with associated risk to Halley VIa.”
NASA Earth Observatory image by Joshua Stevens, using Landsat data from the U.S. Geological Survey. Story by Kathryn Hansen, with image interpretation by Chris Shuman (NASA/UMBC).
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We have a new measurement now? New York Cities?? What happened to Manhattens?
My first thought as well. Just to be sure … does this “measurement” include The Bronx? AOC’s District? If it does, I expect she will introduce a bill to punish every American who sets their furnace higher than 62 deg.F. with a new thermostat tax.
Just think how much bigger this iceberg would be, if it also included an Amazon headquarters!
How many Des Moines is that?
It’s the size of 17327 football fields, and is lashing out in a Bombshell report.
How many Hiroshima bombs?
How many Olympic swimming-pools?
How many Wales’s?
How many man-bear-pig’s seafront mansions?
How many ping-pong balls, for goodness’ sake?
So many questions.
Yet – it’s worse than we thought . . . .
Mods. /Sarc. Yes.
Auto
Ping Pongs?
Okay… So, 40mm dia balls should pack down to 720 per square metre.
So… 1,000,000 square metres = 1 square km, or 720,000,000 ping pongs per square km.
1700 square km berg should therefore be the size of 1,224,000,000,000 ping pong balls spread evenly across a flat surface. SCEINCE!
Of course now to actually have any meaningful reference points people understand we must convert this number into the number of games of Beer Pong that can be played with said number, then use the ratio of Beer Pong games to House Party exchange rate.
Only then will we be able to express the size of this environmental catastrophe – which may also be Worse Than We Thought(tm) – in terms of Drunken House Parties and we must do this within the next 10 years Before It Is Too Late!
Honest! 😀
The next time I have to talk about velocity it will be in furlongs per fortnight….. /Sarc??
Craig from Oz, it’s ALWAYS worse than we thought. But… now that I think it’s worse than we thought, it must be even worse than worse than we thought!! AAAARRRGGGGHHH!
With one Hiroshima of the mighty crack’s sound energy released, advice: if in vicinity use solid concrete ear plugs.
Imagine the tsunami generated when a New York sized chunk of glacier suddenly calves into the ocean. Run for a high ground now! 🙂
I think you will find this is an ice SHELF and the vast majority of the mass of the ice is already supported by the ocean.
Pretty sure that unless you are physically at the ice shelf you can nap, read a book, yawn and then stroll casually to slightly raised ground in complete safety.
I want to know what happens when the new ice chunk hits NY City. AOC will be predicting this for her next installment.
(and yes, I have an attitude adjustment issue!)
Are you 4 yrs. old?
your humour seem lost on this very literal crowd George
How many Hiroshima’s of energy will the ice cube absorb when it melts? Will it be enough to freeze all the penguins in the Antarctic?
4,2 kJ per kilo and Kelvin (from ninus 40-50 to plus 10-20) plus 334 kJ per kg kilo conversion from ice to liquid water…
(4,2*60+334)*1000000000000 is 586,000,000 terajoule per cubic kilometer.
1 Hiroshima nuke: 54-75 Terajoule.
About 90 days worth of Fat Boys at one nuke per second?
Oddgeir
Ups, wrong by a factor of 1000…
Oddgeir
Ups, seems I was out 1000 times there. 1 nuke per second for 3 hours per cubic kilometer of ice.
Oddgeir
“seems I was out 1000 times there.”
Close enough for Government work
What happened to Wales?
It was to cold in Antarctica so we moved to the Irish Sea,
you can find us between England & Ireland.
New York is used to the cold.
So, that would be the Isle of Man, correct?
Or the Island of Sodor for all the Thomas The Tank Engine fans.
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Bratby was probably referring to this from a couple of years ago.
The eco-alarmist don’t really care about Wales, just wailing. (Though they’ve been known to use whales to “sound the alarm”!)
“What happened ??” It is worse than we thought.
Let’s have all the Democratic candidates stand together on it to take a selfie, while we give a strong push!
New York Cities?? What happened to Manhattens?
Best to go back to the old, standard comparison — the scary, wet & cold iceberg is the size of 10 Hiroshimas.
especially useful to the international audience
“Cracks growing across Antarctica’s Brunt Ice Shelf are poised to release an iceberg with an area about twice size of New York City”
Ok so maybe that’s bigger than manhattan but is it bigger than Rhode Island or Delaware?
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/06/09/history-of-the-global-warming-scare-chapter-5-2000-2005/
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/06/15/history-of-the-global-warming-scare-chapter-6-2005-2010/
Wow, thanks for the link. I’ve been sort of trying to keep track of some of this, but that’s a nice, comprehensive list.
Oh Hum, business as usual watch out Australia here I come (crack, crack ! )
Bet Jeff Bezo’s misunderstood this gripping story motivating him to pull Amazon HQ out of NYC.
AOC also misunderstanding the story has added a free crack guarantee to the GND
NASA should develop a capacity to detect what bears do in the woods.
I don’t know aobut NASA but I caught this bear… last year on my way up the Alaska Highway!
Interesting — a blondish grizzly I assume….
What happened to measuring Antarctic ice bergs in Delawares? Does NBS know about this change?
Delawares? What about Manhattens?
a quick search for “Delawares of Ice” didn’t turn up any relevant hits (adding NBC to the search term did get one NBC story whereas adding ABC gets one ABC story of the same event as the NBC one), whereas Manhattens seems to be the more widely used measurement just a few of the many results from searching for “Manhattens of Ice” from different story events:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2886997/iceberg-the-size-of-manhattan-breaks-away-from-antarctic-glacier/
https://www.businessinsider.com/cavity-underneath-antarctica-ice-sheet-melting-fast-2019-2
https://www.foxnews.com/science/scientists-reach-mysterious-antarctic-lake-buried-underneath-3500-feet-of-ice
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/26/iceberg-4-times-size-manhattan-breaks-off-antarctica/703578001/
Another little used measurement is Luxembourgs
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf
Maybe we should say the iceberg is 1/1600th the size of Michigan….Kinda sounds like a non-problem when you put it like that ;0)
Including or excluding the UP?
How about1/1024th the size of the Cherokee Nation (no, that wouldn’t be politically correct).
In other words measure it in Elizabeth Warren Egos. I don’t think there’s a large enough mass of ice on the planet to equal the size of one Elizabeth Warren Ego. 😉
John Endicott,
🙂
What about the super healine conveyer. That goes round the planet that amount of freshwater . Would cause desalination wouldn’t it ??
Luxembourgs is the metric system.
So the 12 years to end of the world prediction was a bit optimistic?
Yep. We’re doomed.
Holding your breath?
1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippis…
I can’t wait for the breakup. I have a tanker of gin on standby along with a bottle of dry vermouth, a jar of olives, and an ice pick. 😜
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This will be cool to watch. Portions of ice shelves have been breaking off since nearly forever, but now we have aerial imaging capabilities to get a really good view of the show.
What was that one 6-8 years ago? The big Larsen B(?) ice shelf chunk? Obviously I can’t recall the pertinent details – date or place – but the images of the crack were awesome. Sadly, the primary use of those images was to alarm the sheeple.
Hmmm… I also can’t recall any followup on the whereabouts of that chunk.
Anthony, I’m not seeing the first (1986) image.
Try:
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144563/countdown-to-calving-at-brunt-ice-shelf
Holy cr*p, that’s pretty cool. I notice they’re all hysterical about the size of the ice shelf about to calve, but no recognition or comment on how much the ice shelf grew (as can be seen in the side-by-side comparison) between 1986 % 2019. Based on the Mark IV eyeball method and using the scale in the bottom corner, it appears that parts of the ice shelf may have extended up to 40-50 km @30 years. No wonder it’s getting ready to split.
PETA objects to using the word … “calving”. A PETA spokesperson said; “Americans obsession with beef consumption should not influence our Climate-protectors at NASA’s Goddard Climate Center to use bovine-insulting language. PETA recommends using the term “aborted”. The ice shelf is being ABORTED”.
How sad is it that it’s hard to distinguish between that being parody and that being something PETA would actually say
Aborted? There isn’t a bottle of gin big enough.
There are strange things happening beneath a midnight sun. Icebergs birthed while penguins mate, walruses meeting to decide our fate. While miles away across the seas this change is caused by SUVs, by cows a farting and coal fires burning. Our world to hell is surely turning. Just hide your head in burning sand a half degree warmer than once it was.
I like this poem! The midnight sun is sooo beautiful.
oh oh can’t comment after Rick’s poem….no one would be able to read it anyway…TOO FUNNY!
Nice little prose poem. The metre seems to be a bit off though.
Enough with the farting cows already. Cows don’t fart nearly as much as they belch. Horses fart. Citiots please read: https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/digestive/burps-not-farts.htm.
I milked a cow for three years and don’t recall a single fart unless it was associated with generating manure.
QUICK! Someone get there with a few thousand rolls of duct tape and seal that crack back up!
…ah-la Red Green?
http://www.redgreen.com/
In Alaska, the duck tape solution is a reality!
Two days ago, a Belgian newspaper wrote that the iceberg to be broken from Antarctica has twice the size of Belgium, and that this could rise the sea-level by 3 meters. If that is correct, then calculation shows that the iceberg should have a height of 18 kilometers, twice the height of Mount Everest.
We are doomed. / sarc.
If the ice is floating then the rise in sea level is zero.
On the other hand, this iceberg is calving in the Southern Atlantic, and if all that water goes directly towards Belgium, they may be inundated to 30 meters easily. Long live the Precautionary Principle!
As Jesus said “the idiots are always with us”
or maybe he said the poor. My reading comprehension isn’t what it should be.
I’m sure he meant ‘poor in intellect’ as well.
BTW they usually go hand-in-hand unless acted upon by an outside or random force (such as luck).
It’s sad, but true, that few people
know glaciers are rivers of ice
moving over land.
I’d guess 99% of Americans
don’t know that.
And as they move toward sea level,
chunks of the glacier
break off and land in the sea,
whether the climate is warming,
or cooling.
Sometimes the chunks are
very large.
Sometimes, before the age
of satellites, no one noticed them,
no matter how large they were.
I’m sure AOC** can explain
the natural movement of ice glaciers
to the American people.
** Alexandria Occasionally Coherent
I have seen that on ‘Weerliefhebbers’, and made about the same calculation. But I haven’t found any confirmation of this huge size claim as well.
Back in the 80’s when an area of Brazilian rain forest the size of Belgium was being burned every year, comedians called for Belgium to be burned instead.
Two words: Super Glue.
Really big staples
I know that water is measured by Olympic size swimming pools but I thought ice was measured by golf balls.
Oh No! We’re All Gonna Die!
Scary
London’s ‘science’ magazine ‘Daily Express’ shows image of the event and is confident that the NASA could be of the view that the asteroid 1999VF22 is about to hit the iceberg, evaporating all the ice via process of sublimation, causing an atmospheric river dumping all that huge volume of water on the N. California flooding Sacramento Valley, but on the plus side the Bronx will not be flooded by the resulting sea level rise if iceberg did simply melt.
On the plus side, NO sea level rise will occur if the iceberg does calve and melt. It’s already caused as much displacement as it can. It’s floating.
The complete TDS meltdown in the DNC inner circle could lead to sea level rise of up to 6 m (20 feet).
Jussie Smollett denies any responsibility. Harris says the culprit is the Chicago Police Dept. which framed two African-Americans as Trump supporters.
Jussie Smollett is being processed by CPD now. Brothers were paid 3500. Say Smollett was unhappy with his salary. Of course he’s a hyper progressive SJW.
Here’s an image showing how the ice front has evolved since 1915: link
The scale is different but you can orient yourself on Halley IV.
There’s something wrong with your data – it shows more ice now than before the evil molecule was unleashed. Nothing like a little data to ruin a hypothesis.
This is exactly the type of [INSERT NORMAL EVENT ] we can expect with global warming.
I think you mean climate queering.
Geez, c’mon people use proper labels!
😵
Please do not be queerophobic. (Q in LGBTQ stands for queer).
Joke, you must..
I can’t tell if you are being serious, as if I didn’t know that and also purposefully use it in jest, or whether you are a pretty funny guy.
Either way. I’ll clarify for onlookers: There are only two genders, with random genetic mishaps as outliers. The rest is preference and has zero to do with gender.
Queer isn’t a real thing, it’s an fairy tale idea from childhood make believe land that a person can play pretend because they don’t like labels.
Fine. Be queer, but don’t expect me to refer to queers as anything other than what their biological gender visually expresses.
Pansexual? Still born a girl or boy
Asexual? Same
MTF, FTM… Still born a boy or girl.
And it’s cool. I genuinely support people living as they choose, but I’m not going to play party to normalising mental health issues, and I’m damn sure going to joke about whatever I want, especially sensitive topics. Because otherwise….
The terrorists win!
🤔
Good grief all this comfort and convenience has really permitted those with mental health issues to multiply. Maybe AOC had the right idea
You might be interested in Galileo’s Middle Finger by Alice Dreger. It details the corruption of science by some pretty nasty LGBTQ/SJW activists. These folks are a serious danger to our freedom and, therefore, to the well being of the nation.
Just as Dr. Mann’s hockey stick pushed me into skepticism, the folks Dreger describes are pushing me away from my previously automatic tolerance.
Commi, I have tolerance and acceptance for anyone who engaged in consensual interactions with other adults. How they live or dress or any of that, isn’t my concern, but I will shame them depending on the circumstances.
Many of them deserve shaming.
But what is really going on is the agenda to destroy the family and usher in their dystopian socialist dream world. It is only about power with them. Few want to actually be seen as equals, love freely: the vast majority want to punish normal white males for some perceived Injustice
I followed that link. It looks interesting. That may be my next read
Can be a bit tricky when you have intersex individuals. For example someone with androgen insensitivity syndrome can have a Y chromosome but no external male genitalia and in fact a medical exam would show them to be female. Sometimes only diagnosed when undergoing treatment for the inability to conceive!
I think I see one volcano in the same general area.
http://cdn.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Smellie-1.jpg
https://www.google.com/search?q=brunt+ice+shelf&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=JYYlymhyMRdYKM%253A%252CbvfGM1Eed6KPeM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kTxi4D6HcqZ7P8KD41OrW3hJAQkHg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj1yo_Rl83gAhUJKa0KHTs8BIwQ9QEwA3oECAQQBg#imgrc=JYYlymhyMRdYKM:
I wondered the same thing, but not even close. The ‘berg is on the east side of Amundsen embayment, who knows how many hundreds of kilometers from the nearest volcano.
Sorry, Weddell, not Amundsen
That is a small iceberg. This is a BIG one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg_B-15
Larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined.
Or this one. https://realclimatescience.com/2017/07/1956-iceberg-was-the-size-of-massachusetts-and-connecticut-combined/
McDonald Ice Rumples are my favorite, especially with chocolate sauce
+42. 🙂
Oregonians need to know how many Dufurs = 1NY
Our world gets more like South Park every day.
NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center seems to have too much money to spend on meaningless studies.
I’d rather the Gov. study ice than build wind turbines.