Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t TomRude – will nobody think of the children?!
By 2080, the climate in these Canadian cities will look nothing like it does today
A study looked at 540 cities across Canada and the U.S.
Nicole Mortillaro · CBC News · Posted: Feb 12, 2019 2:14 PM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago
The average summertime temperature in Edmonton is around 15 C. It’s comfortable and familiar for residents. But in 60 years, that temperature is forecast to rise by almost 5 C, more reminiscent of the climate just outside St. Paul, Minn.
That’s just one of many specific geographic conclusions in a new study published in Nature Communications.
In an effort to improve climate change communication, the authors came up with an idea: what if they forecast the temperature and precipitation changes for cities in 2080, and matched them with a city that has a similar climate today?
“We wanted to answer the question: How do we communicate these expected changes in a way that’s relatable to people?” said Matt Fitzpatrick, associate professor at the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science and the study’s lead author.
“The basic idea was to use this technique of climate analogue mapping, which isn’t a new technique … and to do that in a comprehensive way, so we can better communicate what these changes mean.”
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Read more: https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canadian-climate-cities-2080-1.5014695
The study is available here.
No offence to Canadians, but myself, I suspect a lot of people who read WUWT, would find the Minnesotan climate to be a little on the chilly side, especially after some of the brutal winter weather Minnesotans have experienced this year.
Even if the predictions are true, is a gradual rise in temperature from bitterly, bone chillingly cold to be careful of exposed flesh cold really a problem worth spending trillions of dollars to reverse?
The CBC “a fully funded agency of the Federal government of Canada,” no they are not! They are fully funded by the taxpayers and only answer to the Liberal Party and spout any leftie loony theory they can find. Haven’t watched or listened to them in more than twenty years.
I was trying to be polite.
However I have come to believe that we actually only have one government party in Canada.
A party devoted to stealing everything everything it can.
Just has 3 or 4 different political branches and a fully integrated bureaucracy.
How is it possible that these folks don’t realize how incredibly dumb this is. Really can’t be understood in a normal context.
The horror!
That Manitoba should suffer the climate of Minnesota. But that means that Minnesota will endure the climate of Iowa. Children won’t know what ice fishing is anymore.
Land of 10,000 Fetid, Stinking Swamps Infested with Alligators and Chiggers.
Climate novelty? they’re just making this sh*t up.
Way to go, Nicole!
Those kinds of specious claims will frighten… Nobody.
Which does bring up the question, why make such an outrageous claim?
Is this one-upmanship? A scarier claim than another reporter is working on at the eco-loon greenie bar? After how many losses at drinking games?
Instead, all Nicole has done is given thousands faint hope that weather will moderat, more crops will grow and for a few summer days around June 20th one can suntan, briefly, with goosebumps.
Faint elusive hope, because most people are well aware that all predicted climate dooms have utterly failed.
Nicole completely forgets where in this interglacial climate cycle Earth is proceeding, as the planet cools.
Oh, come on now…!
Alarmism 10.1 – this is how advocate science, if you can call it that, performs dishonest and deceitful studies on anthropogenic global warming.
Studies now show no proof of temperature rise, storm numbers or increasing intensities, flooding or droughts or any other climate change consequences. These advocates merely pick this information from the latest suspect United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report and run with it as it’s the environmental gospel.
Here we have a study of what temperatures and precipitation will be like in certain cities 61 years from now. The beauty of this study is that its lazy researchers will not be alive when their predictions fail.
These people call it “climate communication”. It’s essentially the idea the peasantry is too dumb to understand the terror and alarmism we constantly report, let’s just make it really simple for them to get scared.
St Paul bills itself as “The most livable city in America.”
That is the city’s official motto.
https://www.stpaul.gov/
Shudder the thought of them losing that billing to Edmonton.
On the Reality-bites Front:
St Paul yesterday (Feb 12th) declared a snow emergency.
https://www.stpaul.gov/departments/public-works/street-maintenance/snow-emergency-update
More the point of how ridiculous this study is:
While both cities (Edmonton and St Paul) have major rivers running through them, the Saskatchewan River and the Mississippi River, St Paul has an elevation of 795 feet MSL, but Edmonton nearer to the Canadian Rockies is at 2,100 feet MSL. That elevation difference, and the much drier air on the lee side of the Rockies means the daily temperature swings will always be much greater in Edmonton. So from a physical climatology view, it would be impossible for Edmonton’s climate to ever be anything like St Paul.
Being from Phoenix, Minnesocold is still really cold. Not much different than Canada that I can tell, aye. On the other hand, we have a lot of Canadians around here, so they must like the heat too.
Well, from where I sit (Mississauga, Ontario). The man-made global warming threat is not in question.
Along with the media our political and academic elites consistently avoid explaining the uncertainties surrounding the issue. There is no doubt, the consensus is “proof”….”thousands” of scientists agree. To think otherwise is to be a fool…Trump, for example.
The ignorance on this issue is dominant and there is no excuse for it. Here in Ontario the damage done from implementing “The Green Energy Act” is horrific. The waste is approaching $100 billion. A fiscal boondoggle of irresponsible spending unmatched in Canadian history.
Shutting down coal…for no reason other than the fervid imaginations of some very influential people. For jurisdictions without access to natural gas, coal is by far the safest, least expensive and quickest route to base load power for the grid. But try telling that to any of our academic, media and governing elites and they will perceive you as a conspiracy nut.
Not only did these people shut down coal, they spent double digit billions refurbishing old nukes that should have been decommissioned, then unbelievably investing multiple billions in wind/solar parks along with the required conventional back-up and creating an almost daily requirement for excess “alternative” power to be sold to the spot market for a fraction. On top of all that…a carbon tax.….total $fiasco and no reason for it.
All they had to do was hook up to the hydro power available from Quebec. By making gasoline and electricity more expensive these people think they can change the clouds, and they have the blessing from our educated, political and media elites.
Furthermore we have elected a new government and “The Green Energy Act” is not yet up for discussion. In this neck of the woods if you are not on board with the politically correct man-made climate change alarmist narrative you are irrelevant.
Good grief.
Treating a warmer Canada as if that would be a bad thing is like a skit out of Monty Python.
As Phil R. pointed out, this article is based on RCP 8.5. In the article it is referred to as the scenario where “global emissions stay more or less the same.” That is not a good description of RCP 8.5. If instead they had said that the world embraces coal, gives up on renewables and nuclear, reverses the trend of lower birth rates with population exploding, and finds it difficult to innovate to find new solutions–then that might be closer to the pathway described. If they had mentioned that the models run 2-3 times too warm, even better.
We will be lucky to get even half of the temperature increase predicted/projected if the world continues to warm and if that warming is a consequence of increasing carbon dioxide concentrations.
Minnesotans for Global Warming: http://www.m4gw.com/
Need we say more? 🙂
Great video. Didn’t know Mickey Man has a good singing voice 🙂
M4GW has the art of skewering CAGW ideology down to a science.
Who said the temperature is going to rise 5C in 60 years?
Models.
Probably. At least one of them. Once. If you tortured it.
Then took the garbage that came out of it, and poured it into another model.
Sort of like a garbage climate model turducken.
I think if you dig into the ICPCC documents, you will find that kind of predicted temperature rise is in the “Low Confidence” area. For “High Confidence” you have to stick to 2 degrees C, but that doesn’t sound as scary. But for me, living in Minnesota, even 5C sounds inviting; I imagine it’s even more-so to Canadians.
Them? In order get people involved and empowered, you need to ride this greenhouse stuff so that ‘we’ can overturn the capitalist system. Lying is called efficient communication by these good people.
“By 2080, Climate Change will Force Canadians to Endure Warm Conditions Like Today’s Minnesota” So how many Canadians would object to that? Minnesota is cold enough and it only gets colder the further north you go. Canada’s cold environment does place a limitation on their way of life. Probably, also, limits who would be willing to live the country.
Forced to endure warm conditions like today’s Minnesota? Gentlemen, start your engines and bring it on, I say. Even though I’ve been known to shovel six feet of snow off my roof when it was -35 in Prince George, I’m so rugged and adaptable – and I’m not making this up – I have been able to endure warm conditions like today’s Hawaii!
“more reminiscent of the climate just outside St. Paul, Minn.”
I live just outside St. Paul, Minn. Does this mean we’ll be moving up to the climate just outside Chicago?
YES!!!!!
So, one the more southern cities in Mid western Canada will have a similar temperatures to one of the more northern cities in mid western US. OMG, the horrors!
As a Canadian I am disappointing. I would rather have weather like Georgia.
Turn it up.
5°C in 60 years would represent an extraordinary acceleration in warming. To make such a prediction, even though the annual CO2 forcing increase has been hardly more than linear for the last 40 years, and is likely to drop below linear in the next few decades, seems crazy. You can see how nearly straight the log(CO2) [i.e., CO2 forcing] graph is, here:
https://www.sealevel.info/co2.html?co2scale=2
Land temperatures have been rising between 0.2 and 0.25 °C / decade, depending on whose numbers you believe:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/crutem4vgl/from:1950/plot/crutem4vgl/from:1950/trend/plot/rss-land/offset:1/plot/rss-land/offset:1/trend/plot/uah6-land/offset:2/plot/uah6-land/offset:2/trend
+5°C in 60 years would be +0.833 °C per decade, which is about 3½ times as fast as temperatures have been rising for the last forty years. That seems crazy.
However, it’s not as crazy as the claims that Antarctica is going to melt. It averages more than 40 degrees below zero, but climate activists think a couple of degrees of warming will melt much of the ice, and raise sea-levels catastrophically. “Because physics.” 🤔
Climate Science is one of those fields, like “gender studies” and “critical race theory,” in which the lunatics have taken over the asylum:
Well only 5 degrees C warmer near Edmonton is a ripoff. We’ve have now had weeks of being in the deep freezer, and came the earliest I can ever remember, by starting in September.
From equator at 35C to Pole at -35 C is 10,000 km, which is about 150 km per degree. So if there is an average of a degree C of warming coming, then most cities will have to adapt to the climate presently experienced by cities 150 km or about 100 miles further South. Which for the most part is pretty much zero practical difference.
This amounts to cruel taunting of Canadians with forecasts worth less than a Bolivar.
12 hours of snow so far, predicted to snow for three days, I spent the last 4 hours grading my 1.5 mile driveway by feel, white out. Can we have those 5° now? Did I mention the 6 foot piles of snow along side the road? Currently bouncing from -13° to -2°C, can’t wait for the wind to start blowing, again.
But wot happens when it gets colder?
As a Canadian, I really really hope this is true. Based on other climate predictions though, it won’t be…
High of -17C today, and that is an improvement over the last 23 days.