Are Childless Climate Change Eco-Worriers Modern Day Shakers?

Hannah Cohoon, Tree of Life or Blazing Tree, 1845
Shaker art – Hannah Cohoon, Tree of Life or Blazing Tree, 1845

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

A commitment to not having sex (so no children) ultimately led to the decline of the 18-19th century Shakers as a significant religious movement.

Reconsidering having kids because of climate change? You’re not alone

MONDAY 11 FEBRUARY 2019 12:21AM
Jo Lauder

One in three women under 30 involved in environmental groups are so worried about climate change and the future of the planet they are reconsidering having kids, according to a new survey.

The survey focused on women’s views on climate change ahead of this year’s federal election, and found nine out of ten of them were “extremely concerned” about the issue.

For women between 30 and 39 years, 22 per cent said they were reconsidering having children or more children because of climate change.

Over 6,500 women were quizzed for the survey, which was conducted by The Australian Conservation Foundation and 1 Million Women.

28-year-old Felicity Lochhead, who studies sustainability at university, says climate change is a major factor in her thinking about the future, and it’s the same for having kids.

“If I don’t take it [climate change] into account for that big decision, but I’m taking it into account for all these little decision in my life… it doesn’t make sense if I ignore it,” she told Hack.

“What I’m concerned about is that it’s beyond an environmental issue… it swells into those spheres of economic issues and social issues as well.”

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/reconsidering-having-kids-because-of-climate-change/10795320

The lesson from the past is inescapable. If a community doesn’t have kids, they eventually die out, and cede the future to groups which do have kids.

But there is a way for such communities to continue, for a while – they have to convince other people’s kids to join their community.

The Shakers took in orphans and homeless people, and probably did a lot of good in their time. Not everyone raised by Shakers remained a member of the Shaker community, the Shakers were very firm on the idea that being a Shaker was voluntary.

Greens differ from Shakers in that they seem to prefer using other people’s money to recruit children to their cause. Their preferred means of recruiting other people’s children seems to be to convince teachers and school boards paid for by parents of the kids they target to provide lessons on “sustainability”, resource scarcity, and other climate catastrophe tropes.

People who leave the green movement, like Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore, in my opinion are not well treated.

Perhaps Greens are not so similar to Shakers after all.

There is still one shaker community left, Sabbathday Lake Shaker Village

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John Bell
February 12, 2019 9:09 am

But I also notice that lots of eco libs have lots of kids, then complain about over population, the hypocrites.

February 12, 2019 9:32 am

In George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984, sex is banned:

“We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends ….
Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother.

1984 is not simply the prescient insights by Orwell for today’s Leftist-Progressives, it is their playbook. Their blueprint to totalitarianism control and ultimate power.

Art
February 12, 2019 9:48 am

If they’re giving up children because of global warming/climate change, that would seem to indicate that they really do want to have kids, but they’re willing to make a personal sacrifice for the “good of the planet”.

How sad. In 30 or 40 years, in their lonely old age, they will weep for the children and grandchildren the could have had, for the loss they endured.

And mostly that sadness will be accompanied by anger, because by that time, with emissions having continued to rise unchecked through those decades and the promised Armageddon not having occurred, they will realize how they’d been duped.

JohnB
Reply to  Art
February 13, 2019 9:01 pm

At least they’ll have their cats to talk to.

n.n
February 12, 2019 10:18 am

Dodo Dynasty is a choice. That said, it depends on how they remain childless, and if they seek to normalize their orientation.

February 12, 2019 10:56 am

….. too many people in the USA smoke the wrong stuff, but it is a big country.

John F. Hultquist
February 12, 2019 11:43 am

The WSJ’s James Taranto made the case for “The Roe Effect” in 2003.
Related idea to this post — you can search, if you care.

Doug Coombes
February 12, 2019 1:13 pm

Where’s the evidence for any of this, it sounds like Trump’s rampaging caravans of invaders coming to kill all Americans.

Millions of people are justifiably worried about the future because of the multiple impacts human activity has on the natural world. The latest extremely troubling data is that many insect populations are in freefall calling into question biological integrity across vast areas of the Earth.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006320718313636

Sustainability isn’t some clever catchphrase by the “Greens’ to steal other people’s children as this truly bizarre piece posits. Sustainability is a recognition of just how interconnect the natural systems are that create the conditions that allow complex life on Earth. That includes the oxygen many organisms need to breath, the food that is produced and much of the fresh water.

Life makes life possible on Earth, kill enough of it off and the entire system implodes.

Many people are choosing to not have children because all the data says that we are heading for some extremely unpleasant to life times if we don’t make radical changes.

Not because there is some modern version of the blood libel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

February 12, 2019 1:33 pm

The good news keeps on coming. It the Greenies follow the Shakers in not having children, then in a generation of two there will be no more of these deluded souls. Unlike the Shakers, however, they will not be leaving behind a positive heritage and artistic endeavour, but one of greed, ignorance and malice.

Bryan A
Reply to  Nicholas William Tesdorf
February 12, 2019 2:13 pm

Don’t forget the Hatred towards anything that resembles Life or Living Requirements or their fellow human

Doug Coombes
February 12, 2019 2:27 pm

This site is such a fraud, you make libelous claims against millions of people who support sustainable policy and claim “Green” are trying to steal other people’s children.

Then refuse to post comments that tie this back to some of the most scurrilous attacks made in history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

I’d say shame on you but you clearly lack any conscious.

peterh
Reply to  Doug Coombes
February 12, 2019 4:32 pm

Idiot.

Rich Davis
February 12, 2019 4:30 pm

maybe I am unconscious Doug, because I didn’t see any reference to stealing children. The only instance of the word “steal” (before my post) is found in your two unhinged posts. Don’t you have any conscience? It’s not ethical to lie like that.

John Sandhofner
February 12, 2019 8:12 pm

“If a community doesn’t have kids, they eventually die out” So, because of their extra ordinary fear of over population and its affect on the environment, these women are missing out on what is the most important part of a normal women’s life- bring life into the world. The best that can be said about this situation is at least they are not bring in more people into the world who will be indoctrinated with the sad view of life.

February 14, 2019 2:06 pm

Wow, perfect, there is a cure for stupidity after all! Hey Griff!