From The Daily Caller
Fighting Nazi Germany
2:45 PM 02/08/2019 | Energy
Chris White | Energy Reporter
Democratic Sen. Cory Booker appeared to compare adopting the so-called Green New Deal with fighting the Nazi regime.
“Our planet is in peril, and we need to be bold,” Booker said at a Friday campaign event in Iowa. There are a lot of people who are critical of the deal. Critics claim “it’s too impractical, and it’s too expensive.”
“And when the planet has been in peril in the past, who came forward to save Earth … from the scourge of Nazis and totalitarian regimes?” Booker asked rhetorically. “We came forward.” (RELATED: Does Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal Outlaw Every Building In The Country)
“We came forward with the Marshal Plan,” he added, referring to a U.S. program concocted during the 1940s to rebuild parts of German and other European countries bombed out during World War II.
The GND, which was introduced Thursday by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, calls for a “10-year national mobilizations” toward a series of goals aimed at fighting global warming. A separate fact sheet published online claims the plan would “mobilize every aspect of American society on a scale not seen since World War 2.”
U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) hold a news conference for their proposed “Green New Deal” to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions in 10 years, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, U.S. February 7, 2019. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst
Ocasio-Cortez’s original concept received support from Booker and other potential presidential candidates. The updated version, however, which was rolled out Thursday morning, got only tepid support from Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who called the idea a “green dream” Wednesday.
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Projection? The green blob behaves like a classical mass movement, acting as if they were an evangelical religion, much like the socialists of various flavors before the Second World War.
While the NSADAP had eugenics as a cause to exploit, the greens have climate science. Neither actually seems to treat the centerpiece of their obsessions in a rigorous manner. I am sure a National Socialist could no more rigorously define “aryan” any more than a green blob member could rationalize why more than 1.5 degrees warming is deadly.
But I think either should be taken seriously as a threat. True Believers might do nearly anything.
If the leadership can’t define why more than 1.5C warming is deadly, why should anyone expect the average drone to be able to do so?
They will simply appeal to authority. Typical.
The green movement sounds more and more like Hitler’s Germany. Invade and tare down sectors of society, rebuilding it in their preferred format, all the while striving for globalized governance. Cory Booker has one thing right, the Green New Deal movement is exactly like Hitler’s plans in the late 1930s so we do need to fight AOC and her ilk with all the fervor of the Allies against the Green Axis.
Tear down…
I hate Autocorrect gone haywire
…then turn it off, if you can.
If you can’t, you are in trouble.
Try Linux.
You could weigh your options.
Jeff,
I got it! 🙂
WRONG – Hitler’s Germany was not about global governance or creating fake science. Hitler strictly forbade exporting Nazism because it wouldn’t work without Germans (obviously). Everyone knows that the Germans were way ahead of the US, Britain, France and the developed world in scientific matters. So it’s truly stupid to accuse the Germans of fake science.
Stalin and the USSR openly exported Bolshevik Communism all over the world. Their stated goal was Communist world domination. Bolshevik Communism was responsible for at least 100 million deaths worldwide. Look to Bolsheviks and Stalin for a beautiful example of state managed, insane ‘science’ run amok.
George Orwell wrote 1984 and Animal Farm based on his experience with Communism during the Spanish Civil War. Both novels highlight the fact that Leftist Communist ideology generates fake knowledge. For example, in 1984, a goal of Big Brother is to force people to believe that 2+2=5. They used torture and mind manipulation to achieve this.
Even Jordan Peterson has a Youtube video on the weird mentality of the Soviet era secret police. They had a fetish about forcing their victims to confess to crimes they obviously did not commit. Very much like the Spanish Inquisition or the Salem Witch Trials.
The concept of ‘denier’ as in Global Warming Denier or Holocaust Denier is a beautiful example of Orwellian doublespeak.
The Germans were not guilty of that kind of reality-bending nonsense.
You are right. Hitler was not a globalist.
Hence the distinction between national (hitler) and international (stalin) socialism
Hmmm… maybe not.
But it´s allways possible to do things better. So far everything is going by the book (mein kampf). We must just wait and see…
‘Hence the distinction between national (hitler) and international (stalin) socialism’: I don’t see the difference. Stalinisem: One type of government to rule the world. Hillerisem: One type of government to rule the world. Both based on totalitarianism and so called “social justice”. You can not have social justice without individual justice nor can you have have social freedom without individual freedom.
There is always a time for a first. This is an amazing first for me.
tarrasik and GW,
Germany happens to be the main Nation triggering and fighting two WW for global dominance.
Especially in the second one, with Nazis in charge of Germany the fever of global dominance by Nazi Germany was beyond the clarity of obvious.
Oh well, their vision of global government will be like a Nazi AUN instead of simply UN.
Hopefully not too hard to figure out what “A” stands there for.
Oh well, maybe I got it all backwards….again 🙂
cheers
Hitler didn’t want to export Nazism…true…Hitler wanted to export Nazis. His goal was to build grand Reich Cities in every country he conquered and, after eliminating undesirables in those other countries, populate those new Reich Cities with Germans
“Hitler didn’t want to export Nazism…true”
Not true. The Nazis did try to export nazism, though mostly only to countries with “aryan” population (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, flemish Belgium). And they were perfectly willing to ally themselves with kindred political movements however non-aryan such as e. g. Moslem extremists in the Middle East and the Balkans.
Per the WIKI article on “Occupation of Poland”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Poland_(1939–1945)
So the ultimate plan was to exterminate/relocate/subjugate indigenous peoples and repopulate with Germans
“Everyone knows that the Germans were way ahead of the US, Britain, France and the developed world in scientific matters. So it’s truly stupid to accuse the Germans of fake science.”
Physics and chemistry, sure; however, there was a lot a fake genetics in Nazi propaganda.
Optics as well.
German range finders were the bane of sea battles.
If Hitler hadn’t expended so much capital on hosting the Olympic Games, he would have had more to pour into the German War Machine.
They had developed Stealth Technology…The Horton Ho 229 which had twin Jet engines and could travel a 620 mile range in an hour
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229
There was even plans for a larger Horton 18A with 6 engines and a greater payload capacity
If Germany hadn’t run out of wartime capital and these had been deployed, the War would have ended differently
Bryan A
February 10, 2019 at 8:52 am
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As far as I can tell, two main points the Germany lost the War, in my opinion.
First it lost the battle for or over Britain, against any odds it still lost!
Second it lost almost its entire main army in Russia due to a very cold freezing winter.
First loss, the turning point, the second one, the end of Nazi Germany then.
I do not think Hitler could be blamed or hold responsible for the second one, while considering the very implication of the first major loss over Britain, almost the entire Luftwaffe potential against GB and the Allies.
Germany did not lose the war because it had not a big enough or powerful enough army, or because it did not have any good enough logistics or not good enough resources or industry to support the war machine.
It lost due to mainly man and weather, in concept of strategy…I think.
cheers
So what, …… everyone also knows that the US was way ahead of Germany, Britain, France and the developed world in development of the Atomic Bomb.
And you all had’ta ask …….. “Just why was Nazi Germany way ahead of the developed world in scientific matters”?
Well “DUH”, to wit:
And what was the US’s “HIGH PRIORITY” in the 1930’s.
“YUP”, instituting and trying to enforce Prohibition …… but only succeeded in creating a corrupt Legal system and organized crime, both of which is still prevalent to this day.
Olympics? I doubt it to be honest. We are talking apples to wardrobes to the comparisons are very abstracted, but the 1936 games cost about $30 to 50 million. The Bismarck apparently cost about 197 million RM. Conversion is about 1:4 apparent so, roughly, the 36 games cost the same as to build (not build and operate) one battleship.
Also I wouldn’t draw too much on German ‘secret’ weapon projects. Concentrate on what actually became operational and WHEN it became operational. In context the US was developing a trans-Atlantic bomber during the war. This eventually became the B36 after the war, but the point was they were developing it, as a ‘secret project’ etc etc, DURING the war. Claiming that the Germans had all sorts of amazing super weapons just around the corner is largely meaningless without considering the large amounts of Allied ‘super weapons’ that didn’t get into service either at all or until after the war.
As for Battle of Britain under the circumstances it is impressive that the Germans did as well as they did. What most forget to discuss is the fact that basically the prime function of the RAF was air defence Great Britain and the system in place in 1940 was the best in the world.
Germany, having more or less stumbled into the rapid collapse of France (not that they were complaining, but pretty much everyone assumed it was going to take longer) they were then faced with the question of what to do with the UK. General feeling was they would realise they were not in a position to keep fighting and would ask for terms in a few weeks. They were then rather shocked with the British decided to destroy the French fleet to prevent those ships being seized by Germany – think about it, Britain had gone from fighting alongside the French to blow them up in the space of a few weeks – and suddenly realised they were going to need to do SOMETHING about Britain.
Unfortunately for Germany they had never really seriously made plans and were forced into both the Battle of Britain and Sealion as pretty much planning on the fly. They tried a number of tactics, more or less failed at all of them and eventually switched to night bombing with the vague promise they would sort it all out come next Spring. (Then pretended it wasn’t important and invaded Russia).
Britain naturally talked up the Battle because there was a war on. Why would you talk down a victory after all? Of course it was hard. Of course it was backs to the wall. Of course it was Their Finest Hour. Not saying it was a complete cake walk but the RAF had planned for this and fought the battle with a brutal pragmatism. The Germans hadn’t planned and fought the battle with a stunning ego that moved into a mild concern and eventually became something to deal with later. In real terms it cost the Germans a lot more then it did the RAF which despite loses, actually increased in size over the course of the battle.
WW2 – big subject. We digress.
Sounds exactly like a Stefan Bandera Ukrainian Hitler apology.
Kiev right now has the only holdover Nazi government, installed by Obama and Nuland, costing billions. Venezuela’s crisis is almost a carbon copy of this – will Nuland turn up with cookies like Maidan?
Nazism is by definition globalist – the nation state, first given form in 1783, is to be rolled back, a Hitler clearly said, who’s model was Napoleon. Neo-con is just fascism with a grin.
FDR told his son Elliot that Pennsylvania Avenue could easily be renamed Adolf Hitler Avenue if not defeated.
Have you ever actually spent time in any reality know to the rest of us?
“Kiev right now has the only holdover Nazi government, installed by Obama and Nuland, costing billions.”
Duh, and you spend your entire day watching RT+working for the SPB troll factory?
It entirely escapes you, Ukrainians are now free to work in the EU, (there are 1000s in neighbouring Poland), which was what Maidan was all about.
Clearly you have never ever been to Kiev!
Good for them, they are now free to go and earn some decent money.
I can only congratulate Ukraine for making their choice, sending corrupt “Yanu” back to Moscow where he & his Omon/FSB/Berkut hooligans all belong, then the USA sticking Manafort in klink for a decade for stage managing it all.
As for the climate stuff, same as 1941, a few nice cold winters and we will soon see how the authoritarian socialist stalewarts survive the freezing cold.
I don’t give them long.
” Everyone knows that the Germans were way ahead of the US, Britain, France and the developed world in scientific matters. So it’s truly stupid to accuse the Germans of fake science. ”
For the most part your statement is true –
However, A large portion of the leading german scientists were jewish. Hitler removed most, if not all the jewish scientists from their posts, banned the teaching of most segments of science that were discovered by jewish scientists.
It should also me noted that a majority of the jewish physists migrated to either Britain or to the US and worked on the manhattan project or the british equivilant of the manhattan project.
Yep. Green, greedy. Lenin-Stalin pagan wood idol religion masterfully blueprinted via a fascist type of capitalism
The Green New Deal reminds me most of Imperial Japan and the Rape of Nanking. Where the “super race” of The Imperial Japanese (eco-leftists) butchered all the Chinese males and burned the city to the ground (green retrofit every building). The Left has screamed their HATE of males so loudly and persistently, that the APA has actually labeled ALL men as toxic. All testosterone as toxic. Extermination comes next, as there is no cure … short of transgendering every male into a eunuch. And the women were raped, and tortured, and mutilated. The eco-left favors post-birth abortion to “thin the human herd”. The entire Chinese culture was selected for elimination and enslavement … so too the totalitarian, morally-superior, eco-leftists have selected Capitalism … esp. American Free Market (sorta) Capitalism … American culture for elimination.
Our existential THREAT comes from the radical eco-left, who have the temerity to call OUR CULTURE the equivalent of Nazi Germany … to justify our DEATHS. We climate crisis skeptics will be put to the sword FIRST. Our voices, videos, and writing will be urgently silenced … by any means necessary.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-rape-of-nanking
Exactly what worries me Bryan A.
With the difference that where I live we have the stigmates of how it started and ended. The words “ecology” and “bio dynamic agriculture” were part of the officially supported ideology. Earth had to be purified from polluting inferior races and their natural riches put under the management of superior (genetically) pure Arians.
The entire nation was mobilized to create and support the required structures and “tools”.
America should never forget the memory of those who gave all to terminate the resulting mayhem.
Remember, by declaring CO2 a pollutant, green hegemony sets a de facto framework to control all breathing beings.
It’s no more a racial or species question, control went on a global unprecedented scale.
Those guys want power and money by means of an invented process. However once they get it, their only solution will be to persist and carry further or risk to be held accountable for the resulting destruction.
The Reichstag fire being blamed on a Communism threat and used to justify extreme action that lead to a dictatorship presiding over atrocities is a good analogy for what this is all about.
And somehow Americans don’t see 9/11 as exactly a failed Reichstagsbrand. Per recipe with inside action, the goal being crippling the Constitution. Look what happened afterwards!
A keen economist wrote this would happen as soon as Ashcroft got his job months before, quoting Karl Schmidt, Hitler’s jurist.
I still have hopes that my kid, age 9, will one day also fly happy vacationers to the sun instead of guiding bombs on target.
Will totalitarians ever learn that somehow they get kicked at the end ?
Apparently not until it happens.
Mueller, now harassing Trump, covered 9/11 up. It is still not declassified. Trump must declassify all russiagate right now to prevent another insane attempt.
As I said above, have you ever spent time in any form of reality known to the rest of us?
I’m not going to re-argue the truther nonsense other than to point out that every piece of so called evidence to support that position has been thoroughly refuted, by multiple sources.
“And somehow Americans don’t see 9/11 as exactly a failed Reichstagsbrand. ”
Mostly because we’re not stupid.
We and most of the world have recordings of Bin Laden admitting to the plan for 9/11. In addition, it’s pretty clear if you actually STUDY the Reichstag fire that the “False Flag” Theory has never held water.
It was almost certainly the actions of Van der Lubble, done in the hopes of sparking a massive Communist revolution against the German government and the ascendant NSDAP.
American management of it after the fact has left *much* to be desired, to put it mildly- as the DHS and TSA show. But this doesn’t mean it was INSIDE JOB any more than the far worse NatSoc consolidations mean the Reichstag Fire was.
Nazi’s killed 6million
Stallin killed 20+million
Mao killed 30+ million
AGW Killed – zero
However, policies to fight AGW have killed hundreds of thousands, and counting.
Kinda like the “Great Leap forward” which killed 20-30+millions to move china forward
Joe, I believe your numbers are out of date.
National Socialism (Hitler) 12.5 to 25 million
Marxist-Leninist Socialism 120 to 170 million (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot)
Then there is WW2 in Europe. It started when Stalin and Hitler conspired to divide up Eastern Europe. Hitler attacked Poland first on 1 Sept 1939, their Soviet allies attacked seventeen days later after they had signed a non-aggression pact with Japan. So, I would divide the 40-50 million civilian dead in Europe during WW2 to the National Socialists and Marxist-Leninist Socialists. They were all socialists of one stripe or another. Just like AOC.
Too bad most of the TRUE beleivers are in the US, Canada and Western Europe.
Has the world gone mad?
None of these kids, relatively speaking, have no idea what a real threat to civilization looks like. Thus, they can equate a clogged toilet to an apocalypse.
Equating WWII’s Nazi threat to a climate change that has not been shown in any way to be human caused is simply not of this world. Sea level change, climate change, ocean acidification, polar ice changes, all doing absolutely nothing unusual. And we are to panic and allow a socialist take-over of our country and world?
AOC was elected. Does that answer your question?
“The Left’s Glorious Future of Unicorns & Rainbows”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/02/09/the-lefts-glorious-future-of-unicorns-rainbows/
We DO have to remember who elected her – a dependably liberal district in New York City. I think it is a mistake to even infer that her electorate is at all representative of the thinking of a broad section of the population. However, they are no doubt pleased about the waves she has made and the attention she gets.
Excellent, NW. Context is important.
That said, Booker and Warren, two candidates for president in 2020, jumped on her band wagon. Now that is scary. They clearly are dumber than she is, since she has since pulled the GND. They haven’t acknowledged how stupid it is, and they are old enough to know better. She’s a child. Warren looks older than me (65 yo) and she doesn’t get it.
Says a lot about our politicians – and our lawyers and our judges.
She appeals to the youth and the camera. Only her free gifts are heard.
“Has the world gone mad?”
….for the most part…everyone has sat back with their ass in their hand and watch it happen
bitched, moaned, and complained about it all….but did nothing
Suggestions? I’ve voted in every election, donated money to candidates. I’m form Virginia (didn’t vote for Northam, Fairfax or Herring). Northern Virginia is feeding at the public trough. The rest of the state has very little say so. Dave Brat lost because his district was redrawn.
I am open to suggestions.
It is weird how Black Lives Matter and the Me Too movement have been silent in Virginia
When President Clinton was accused of assaulting a woman, the head of NOW declared that since Clinton stopped when asked, he had done nothing wrong.
Leftists only use standards as weapons to attack those who oppose them. They never, ever, intended for those standards to apply to themselves.
Mad, I would say insanity has taken over. Booker and Cortex are foolish communists and even more foolish people think that they have good ideas. To be a slave in a once free country is unacceptable to me. The “live free or die” is one I will firmly adhere to.
No, but Democrats have, in the form of the hysterical progressive/socialist/radical/liberal/Democrat ultra-orthodox believers in their Green religion of Climate Change. And theirs is the only religion allowed (except for Islam), so everyone else of any other belief system, please bow down to the “One True Faith.”
That self-proclaimed well-educated and intelligent individuals who are members of this country’s government are unable to recognize the utter destruction we would face — with the elimination of the commercial aviation industry, trucking, and fossil fuels; the mandatory retrofitting of every building in the United States; the installation of hundreds of thousands of land and ocean-based windmills, and millions upon millions of solar panels on roofs across the continent — is utterly incomprehensible.
Do the environmentalists really want migratory birds roasted in mid-air when flying over millions of acres of solar panels? How about birds being decimated by windmills? Do they want the American landscape and seascapes scarred by windfarms wherever anyone looks? Would the National Parks also be subjected to this treatment?
How many people in dozens of industries would lose their jobs? If you consider just the aviation industry, consider the following: as of 2017, there were 17 major U.S. carriers; 609,000 pilots; 965 million U.S. passengers flying both domestic and international airlines on 9,756 million flights. How about the flight attendants, the mechanics, the flight controllers? How many millions of people will be losing jobs, and what would they do instead? What other industries could absorb how many of those highly skilled people into jobs they’re not trained for, and may have no interest in?
Does this mean that families will no longer be able to visit relatives in distant destinations nationally and internationally when they want to? When a loved one has died or is critically ill, and hours are crucial? Or to attend a wedding, or the celebration of a newborn? What happens to the travel industry? How many millions of people are employed in resorts worldwide? Where will they find work when Americans can no longer travel overseas? The restaurant industry is tied to the travel industry. What happens to that? Are we marching right back in time to the 19th Century, when it took a horse and carriage an average of 8 to 12 hours to travel 50 miles, including stops for the horse to rest and eat? How do you travel overseas for a 2-week vacation when it typically takes about a week to go from New York and Southampton, and if you’re going to or from Hamburg, it can take up to 11 days (10 nights) to make the journey?
One question leads to another, and there are dozens, if not hundreds, more. Have any of the progressive/socialist/radical/liberal/Democrat geniuses considered any of them, and come up any answers? One of Shakespeare’s most famous lines was “Let’s kill all the lawyers.” I’m no Shakespeare by I say “let’s lobotomize all the Democrats.” The world will be a better place because of it.
Wonder if he has the remotest idea that the entire anthropogenic global warming hypothesis is a lie?
What they are saying doesn’t even make sense if you 100% believe in GW…..
..only if they have never heard of China, India, and the rest of the world
But still these guys need to match the Hilarious offering of 1Million solar panels…
and with as much as possible noise and messing around.
Needing funding and support, you know….a DNC internal struggle problem, I think.
“Who gets the most”, that is the question…
cheers
Since Democrat Party leaders are running from this like it was on fire and they were wearing gasoline underwear it is clear none of them bought into it to begin with. Can’t be getting those phat checks from Big Oil if you put them outa bidness, don’t ya know!
Booker and Warren aren’t running from it. They’re either remarkably stupid – or they smell money.
pat,
Any politician who even suspects this might be the case, should be prosecuted for treason. Although, as far as I’m concerned, ignorance isn’t a valid defense as it means that one is unqualified to even have a position. Surely, he must know that what he calls climate science per the IPCC is the most controversial science of the modern age. Although, he’s probably so ignorant, he doesn’t even know what the IPCC is.
Pat, do you think that he even cares that it’s a lie? He sees it as a path to socialist feudalism with him on the top of the heap. Once socialism rules watch concern about the climate to disappear. It’s just a tool.
“Once socialism rules watch concern about the climate to disappear. It’s just a tool.” No, you will watch men like me fight socialism. Either join the Human Race or be a slave. Your choice.
Rhoda R, you are spot on. “He sees it as a path to socialist feudalism with him on the top of the heap.”
What they don’t have the ability to comprehend is that the degree of fall associated with going from a semi-free society to one without the energy producing technologies we now possess will involve a societal collapse so vast that the “heap” will probably be a only few inches high. The older members of the ruling class who do, perhaps, realize that there will be no lavish lifestyle for anyone after they achieve hegemony don’t care because they will be safely dead by the time all wealth disappears, and along with it much of the human species.
That is not the point at all. It´s just a great tool to brainwash everybody. And it works…
From “mein kampf” rules : 1. Keep the dogma simple. Make only 1 or 2 points.
Line from a great poet, Michael Jackson :
“And be careful of what you do
‘Cause the lie becomes the truth.”
Powering green trains by wind,solar alone would be remarkable..Let’s see the plan!
Here you go
Wind powered wagon train
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=97fjOmGg2jc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERj0zgWW74
It looked like your second example was heading for a tunnel.
Yep, sure works well. Nice and fast too 😉
Just gotta build the tunnels downhill in both directions
Why don’t we power all ships by wind again? And power all cars by real horses?
Think of all the new green jobs it will create following around the horses with shovels.
Just imagine the Dodge Charger being towed by 400 horses
…and oars when the wind don’t blow.
Don’t forget the slaves to man the oars!
Noooooo! Horse farts – VERY bad!
It´s a scent from nature, so it can not be bad.
For the UK at least there is such a plan ,as revealed by Paul Homewood last month
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/01/27/wind-farms-could-be-built-along-hs2-route-under-confidential-government-plans/
The plan , which is being kept from the public for the moment, is to plant wind farms along the high speed line from London to , ultimately , Manchester and Leeds.
Rather tongue in cheek I suggested that for the proposed all electric vehicle fleet we should need wind farms at every motorway service station , only to be trumped by someone who pointed out that in France that is already in progress.
Spartacus! The perfect democrat candidate. Failed Mayor. Lousy Senator that tries his best to apply a Religious test to Judicial nominees. And obviously a total moron when it comes to science, economics, and about everything else other than playing the race card and bloviating. Yep. He’ll probably be a front runner for the nomination.
And we should mention that Cory Booker has an imaginary friend by the name of T-Bone who gives Booker political advice.
T-Bone has apparently advised Booker to run for president and to champion the socialist green cause. It appears to me that T-Bone has already failed his friend, and the course he advised will leave Booker subject to open ridicule.
You’re not helping things, T-Bone.
Do these people have any clue about the CO2 emissions of China and India?
Even if we granted Booker the Nazi analogy, the result would be 50% of GDP/year just to rid the Atlantic coast of U-boats. There is literally nothing that the U.S. could do by itself to “save the world”.
When we export all of our manufacturing jobs to China our CO2 emissions should go down. Their emissions will go up, plus the extra transportation emissions. This would be a net “loss” for the world by the alarmist’s own stupid metrics.
That’s socialist CO2, it doesn’t trap infra-red.
It’s as pure as the driven… what’s that stuff called again?
snew
Odd, I, too, saw a comparison of Global warming to Nazism. Instead of ‘we must take over the world to save it from Jews’, it is now, ‘we must take over the world to save it from climate change.’
I once thought like Corey Booker. Then I turned 5.
So we can expect: ration books, scrap metal drives, massive curtailment of professional and college sports, no new cars, no replacement vehicle tires, no more overnight air freight, no cruise ship industry, no vacation trips to sunny locales (or to ski resorts)? How would Sen. Bob Menendez cope without periodic trips to Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic?
Amen.
The GND is all about gaining votes in 2020 from the gullible youth, and from those who imagine themselves “victimized”. No mature politician actual believes they will enact any of those proposals. (AOC excepted.)
To your point, there is no sacrifice involved in their “call to war”. It will happen if you vote Democrat (and wish REALLY hard), and then wait for the benefits to roll in.
We will pay for it by taxing other people.
Richard Chenoweth: Electric trains were not uncommon in Europe. I remember zipping across France in one in late 1958. So, one could power green trains by wind and solar. As long as a timetable was of no importance!
Actually I am with Vuk above.
Fighting this Green New Deal will be like fighting Nazi Germany, but he’s got it a little backwards as usual.
This has to be fought (The Green New Deal) with all the might, and intelligence, and common sense that we can muster. It will be a lot like fighting communism, cause that’s what the fight is about!
Most Russians saw the german soldiers as liberators and would have fought on the German side until they discovered that Hitler like Stalin regarded them as untermensch. And that’s exactly how progressives think about the rest of humanity.
That’s why they created their own version of hitler youth with the sacred mission to save the planet whatever the cost.
The Marshal Plan was part of the fight against Communism. In that respect it can be compared to the fight against GND!
Where you can find common sense today?
We have one generation lost. They had been victims of systematic brainwash since the day they were born.
They know only one truth.
In their eyes we are only a bunch of old farts, who know nothing about nothing.
Praise the brave new world.
Until their Iphones and refrigerators stop working.
They could maybe do with a few more engineers and physicists in government
Oh yes they could.
I would be more than happy if I could find ONE intelligent representative from our government.
In that environment engineers and physicists would be so frustrated that they would resign after a week.
You can fight windmills but you cannot talk sense to a brainless politician.
Marshall Plan amounted to just over $100B in today’s USD.
I saw the Green New Deal estimated at $6.6T…annually.
What math and history classes did Booker fail?
All of them?
I see. So if one were to disagree with Mr Booker in any way one is a Nazi?
Just checking.
Apparently they don’t realize that they will have invoke Nazi tactics just to get their GND implemented.
Jim
Oh! They realise it all right. But, to paraphrase RM Nixon: ‘It isn’t Nazi when “we” do it.’
They propose a Paradise for Parasites. How could they fail?
Look at this “New” Green Deal . Its the best thing that could ever happen, People, the potential voters, will finally realise that the Democrats, are as nutty as a fruit cake.
Even allowing that Pres.Trump is a bit of a odd character, he is far better for the USA than the Democrats.
And perhaps slowly they will realise that all of this Green rubbish is just yet another way to p Communism, a failed system.
My wife and I were in the old USSR in 1988 and it was obvious that it was collapsing. Lots of military hardware, but broken petrol pumps at the “Shell service station.
Even our Official guide was a bit ” embarrised at some of the things she was saying. , and was astonished that we from the “West” knew so much about the USSR. It was all rather Sad.
MJE
The green new deal is a political perpetual motion machine. It’s an intelligence test for voters. It provides housing, jobs, unearned income, heath care, energy out of thin air, a complete rebuild of public infrastructure in ten years, reward without effort, a totally unspoiled, natural, vegan, organic biodynamic environment replete with prancing unicorns and semi-clad fairies and elves practicing free love under giant psychedelic mushrooms to the soundtrack from Hair. And it promises to control the climate so that bad weather is no more.
If Democrats take this platform to the next election Trump won’t even have to try, and we’ll all be able to tell who is suitable for employment and who should be considered for psychiatric evaluation based on how they voted.
And all the Dems have to do is wave a magic wand!!
So not only are we “deniers”, they are mantling themselves with the honor and respect due to the Greatest Generation.
Where does this charade end?
It is perfectly possible that climate change might prove to be a problem if temperatures get too high.
The problem is that natural causes are the more probable cause and if we first spend all of our capital “solving” for CO2 simply to find that solves nothing, then where do we get the capital to solve the correct problem.
The saner solution is to roll out actual (as in implementable) energy solutions, likely nuclear in the long run. That can be cost effective and doesn’t require a complete reorganization of the economy of our world.
If we have problems with temperature in the future, solve that problem then. We’ll still have the capital, likely more than now. And with better tools and technology.
The saner problem we should be solving is how high we can get our CO2 levels too. A goal of 800 to 1200 ppm will help us feed 10B people, trying to shave half a degree of warming merely bouys a few green stocks and fills a few politicians’ pockets.
The goal is the reorganization of the economy of the world. Climate change is the delivery device.
“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history”, Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels.
““This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model”
There’s no need to do all that. All the Greens have to do is lobby to use nuclear reactors for any future energy needs. Nuclear energy can supply all the electricity required without producing CO2. Conservatives will join the Greens in pushing for new nuclear power. The problem is solved. No more existential threat to Earth. No need to disrupt the entire economy. Just forget about windmills and industrial solar and substitute nuclear energy. Think of the birds and the children.
Specify what temperature is “too high” for any given location.
Let’s begin by mandating that all ocean shipping be sail powered once again. It’s a proven method that has worked well in the past, and there’s no reason it can’t be implemented immediately on all new ships.
We must demand retrofitting all existing ships that want to have the privilege of remaining afloat. For The Children!
Ooops, to sail efficiently, ships need a large keel. And no pitch (tar) for the caulking between all those wood planks for steel hull ships refitted to wood. Get the bailing buckets ready!
I can remember electric trains in London and the outer suburbs in 1937 as a child.
Again let us set up a short bit of track with a electric train and invite the Democrats with their Green Plan to show us how with some windmills and a few solar panels they can make it move.
Far too much talk and no actual demonstrations as to how things actually work. We need to challenge them all of the time to “Prove”things.
MJE
Better yet. Show me the wind turbine/solar panel infrastructure that will power the heavy industry i.e. steel mills that will supply the materials to build the GND!
Mr Booker is ill informed, it was not the “planet” that was endangered but rather Democracy and civilization itself.
“And when the planet has been in peril in the past, who came forward to save Earth … from the scourge of Nazis and totalitarian regimes?” Booker asked rhetorically.
Mr Booker needs to read more history,
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/07/13/herbert-backe/
This is what Mr Booker is proposing whether he realizes it or not.
michael
OK, that’s it then. War it is.
World War II all over again.
Although I must say I do not see quite how carpet bombing Germany and nuking Japan will help.
But they seem to have that all worked out, so who am I to question.
The communist totalitarian regimes were/are every bit as nasty as the Nazis. link Everywhere communism has been tried, the result has been the same.
When these people suggest that we fix our capitalist economy, we have to demand that they specify how their suggestion differs from communism. I expect the answer would be a toxic mix of bloviation and postmodern word salad.