Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The frantic public efforts to “correct” President Trump’s tweets every time he trolls the warmists are revealing.
US government scientists correct Trump over climate change statements: ‘Winter storms don’t prove global warming isn’t happening’
President’s outburst follows number of recent tweets gleefully disregarding scientific consensus
Tom Embury-Dennis
Chris Riotta…
Experts were quickly forced to correct the president online, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, a government research agency which simply tweeted the statement, “Winter storms don’t prove global warming isn’t happening.”
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In the beautiful Midwest, windchill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees, the coldest ever recorded. In coming days, expected to get even colder. People can’t last outside even for minutes. What the hell is going on with Global Waming? Please come back fast, we need you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 29, 2019
Responding to Mr Trump on Twitter, Jonathan Foley, an environmental scientist at the California Academy of Sciences, said: “You knew this was going to happen. It’s cold in less than 1% of the planet for a few days, so the long term warming and destabilization of a planet’s entire climate system must not be true.
“In related news, Trump had a Big Mac today, so there is no such thing as global hunger.”
Winter storms don't prove that global warming isn't happening. https://t.co/LDqfq4JH9n pic.twitter.com/ndmLD637Cb
— NOAA Climate.gov (@NOAAClimate) January 29, 2019
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NOAA’s claim that warm ocean temperatures cause more snowfall is a bit of a turnaround from all the end of snow predictions we’ve heard over the years.
NOAA’s explanation also leaves out a little, such as an explanation of why the heat from the warmer oceans is being lost in transit.
I’m confused. We are no longer in the 3,5 miljoen year ice age?
Kym but Dim.
HotScot
“Kym but Dim”
and “Simple” Simon
Cheers
Mike
It’s another thermo regulatory system like Willis proposed for the tropics but in this case excess humidity is converted as snow and to get rid of accumulated energy. It may give some local inconvenience
“Waming”, as in Scaming…..
It would be nice to see someone to publicly call out these “experts” and point out the complete idiocy or suicidal nature of their call for energy sources completely dependent on the weather when they are so “supposedly” deathly afraid of weather!
Cheers!
Joe
Thank God for Global Warming – imagine how cold it would be without it ! G?
Now, NOAA’s false strawman is backed by their insisting the climate isn’t changing. i.e. Winter storms are normal and perhaps the natural cycle is returning to colder weather.
Nah!
NOAA is just desperate to keep the delusion rolling.
Of course the Climate scientists are right. Global warming does cause cold conditions. But it depends how one defines “Global”
The Tropics are Global, , they extend all the way around the planet. So its hot there and of course evaporation happens.
Then the Courelis effect moves this warm and moist air both North and South. It finally gets to the Poles and by then it has cooled down, so now its cold.
You see and feel the same effect in a house. If you have a fire in one room then the heat rises, it moves along the ceiling until it cools , then it drops and end up back at the fireplace to again b e warmed. . So what is so difficult about that, our “Climate Scientists ” should be able to work that out, and it does not matter to the energy from the Sun what the atmosphere is made of, the CO2 is just one of the so called Greenhouse gases which cause this het energy from the Sun to be transferred to the other gases, that’s all.
MJE
“NOAA’s claim that warm ocean temperatures cause more snowfall is a bit of a turnaround from all the end of snow predictions we’ve heard over the years.”
Simple physics Eric.
And not a turnaround, as the physics hasn’t changed.
The Nor’easters that run up the eastern seaboard are a prime example of gulf waters moisture being advected north and riding over the dense frigid polar air exiting eastwards within/behind the cyclogenesis.
Falls as copious snowfall within the envelope of cold air at the surface.
It’s always happened of course but, a rise of 1C in air temperature would allow it to hold 7% more water.
And of course, in a warming world there will be the attenuation of snowfall reaching a given level as average freezing levels rise in the decades to come.
Which is what your gov.com web-page article talks of.
“NOAA’s explanation also leaves out a little, such as an explanation of why the heat from the warmer oceans is being lost in transit.”
It’s not as it’s an adiabatic process, the heat being taken out by evap of WV and then given out again as it condenses back to water/snow to release latent heat aloft – thence precipitating out as rain/snow.
Given the air cools within the engaging baroclinic zone as it is forced to rise.
The same process (extra moisture) comes into play in Lake effect snow. A warmer lake surface will lead to more WV uptake, and so more snow downwind.
And the opposite is true! When it is “windchill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees”, which is what the Trump’s original tweet said, it is too cold for the air to hold much water vapor at all. This is not about snowfall, it is about frigid temperatures plunging into areas that rarely see those temperatures.
These weather patterns are rare for the previous few decades, but they are less rare when the climate is colder. They track the formation of the Laurentide Ice Sheet. So they are not an unusual weather pattern, when the Earth gets colder.
When we see these patterns more frequently, we will know it means the tide has turned in our recent CYCLICAL warming, and are returning to what we saw from 1950 -1980.
And to most of us, it will not be a surprise.
Hear Ye! hear ye! Goats for the volcano, get your goats here.
Just think how much trouble we could have avoided – and could STILL avoid – but for an honest press.
I liked Tom Abbott’s suggestion that the Democrats would approve a U.S./Mexico border wall if it was composed of giant Solar Panels. They are certainly that stupid.
Trump actually started this “solar panel border wall” troll some time ago. As you can see from the tone of the article quoted below, idiots on the Left thought he was serious.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/10/26/trumps-proposal-for-a-solar-border-wall-now-appears-dead/?noredirect=on
By Tracy Jan
October 26, 2017
“So much for solar.
President Trump insisted that a solar paneled border wall wasn’t a joke. That it was his idea. That solar panels would help pay for his “big, beautiful” wall.
But despite Trump’s oft-repeated promotion of a solar wall, there is nary a solar panel in sight among the eight prototypes that have arisen in San Diego county this month.”
end excerpt
Trump gets them going, doesn’t he! 🙂
The CBC climate change proselyte editors continue their “misinformation”. On the coldest Arctic air week they managed to sneak some melting glacier story…
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/baffin-island-glacier-study-1.4998217
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cold-weather-1.4998394
The CBC is a disgrace and a censorship machine to boot.
I just love the smell of covfefe waming on the stove on a cold day.
It’s a coal stove. Coal is practically free here in Australia. That’s why our electricity prices are among the highest on the planet.
It’s the same ole spring, summer, fall and winter with the same ole unpredictable weather. Nothing has changed.
Weather is only climate change when the alarmists say it is.
So NOOAClimate.gov
urgently had to come back from
government shutdown
to claim “cold weather is not climate!”
What would we be without NOOAClimate.gov!
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@NOAAClimate.gov
Winter storms don’t prove that global warming isn’t happening.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/are-record-snowstorms-proof-global-warming-isn%E2%80%99t-happening …
Next year, after the temperatures are analyzed by NOAA and NASA and you will see that they were actually much higher than they appeared. They will actually be among the highest temperatures of the last century. Just speaking from experience on the data that NOAA and NASA have “corrected” over the years.
“Winter storms don’t prove global warming isn’t happening.”
But a heat-wave in the Australian summer DOES prove global warming is happening (according to Green politicians and other climate scare enthusiasts).
NOAA scientists Tom Embury-Dennis
Chris Riotta retort” that only 1% of the earth is this cold. Here is a picture of a lot more than 30%. Telling lies to straighten out Trump, their boss, seems a dumb idea.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/30/fascinating-animation-showing-the-polarvortex-slamming-the-usa/
Strawman: Misrepresenting your opponent’s stance on an issue in order to discredit your opponent’s position.
President Trump never said in his tweet that the cold temps were proof that Global Warming wasn’t true so correcting him on this point with the tweet that he sent is attacking a strawman. I doubt the president’s tweet was anything more than taking a jab at the alarmists who constantly claim that every heat wave or storm is proof of AGW.
“In the beautiful Midwest, windchill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees, the coldest ever recorded. In coming days, expected to get even colder. People can’t last outside even for minutes. What the hell is going on with Global Waming? Please come back fast, we need you!”
” Responding to Mr Trump on Twitter, Jonathan Foley, an environmental scientist at the California Academy of Sciences, said: “You knew this was going to happen. It’s cold in less than 1% of the planet for a few days, so the long term warming and destabilization of a planet’s entire climate system must not be true.”
Trump never claimed what Mr. Foley says he claimed. Also, Mr. Foley is overstating the data, the climate is currently running within historical parameters.
It takes only one failure in prediction to cast doubt on a scientific theory. It takes consistently correct predictions to validate a theory. In fact, record cold temperatures DO cast doubt on a theory of disastrously, constantly increasing warming.
Can’t argue the facts or logic, concentrate on typing errors.
Simon….Do you know President Trump plays chess? What level does Trump play? How about Trump’s IQ ? Well, Trumps IQ is above 99%. See Gary Forbes comment. Think any Democrat can play chess with a Grand Master? PS…When Trump talks about Witch Hunt…I think he is referring to Muller hunting for evidence on the Witch known as Hillary. Trump talks is code to enrage the Fake News. Plays them as the stupid fools they are.
DJT is playing three dimensional chess while the media is playing checkers and the Democrats are playing semantics.
Then why do warm weather oddities prove it is?