Brazil Cancels Major UN Climate Conference, Cites Cost Savings

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The new Brazilian Bolsonaro Government has notified the United Nations they no longer want to host next year’s United Nations global summit meeting on climate change.

Brazil cancels hosting climate change summit

Rio de Janeiro: Brazil has pulled out of hosting next year’s United Nations global summit meeting on climate change, the latest signal that Latin America’s largest nation no longer aspires to be an influential player in efforts to mitigate the effects of a warming planet.

The decision leaves the United Nations scrambling to find a new venue for the conference, which was scheduled to take place next November. It comes about a month before the inauguration of President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who has vowed to empower commercial ventures in the Amazon and other Brazilian biomes while weakening enforcement of environmental laws.

Bolsonaro’s incoming foreign minister, Ernesto Araujo, a career diplomat, has called the movement to reduce global warming a plot by “Marxists” to stifle the economic growth of capitalist democracies while lifting China.

In a statement, Brazil’s Foreign Ministry said the decision was made to save money. It also cited the “transition process” as Bolsonaro prepares to take office.

“The image of Brazil is at risk,” said Carlos Rittl, executive secretary of the Brazilian Climate Observatory, an environmental group. “Climate and the environment are the only issues where Brazil is a leader in global terms. We are not leaders in world trade, we are not leaders in a geopolitical sense on security issues. But on climate and environment we are leaders, and we are giving that up.

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/world/south-america/brazil-cancels-hosting-climate-change-summit-20181129-p50j61.html

In my opinion Brazil’s very public snub of the United Nations climate cabal sends a strong message that the Bolsonaro government’s priority is attracting investment and maximising economic growth.

Becoming a world leading economic power provides hope and opportunities to the poor. Being an “environment leader” not so much.

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171 thoughts on “Brazil Cancels Major UN Climate Conference, Cites Cost Savings

    • Would expect that J. Brown might see that as a great opportunity for a farewell party in LA or SF. Plenty of municipal dollars about and they’d be amongst friends. Or poss Bloomberg in NY.

      • This is a formal summit under the UNFCCC charter. A member nations affair. The first letter in IPCC stands for “intergovernmental.”
        The States are forbidden by the US Constitution to coordinate any foreign policy and diplomatic efforts with the foreign governments, this includes the UN.

      • Bloomberg’s term as Mayor of NYC ended about 5 years ago. His successor Bill DeBlasio was just re-elected.

    • I am sure Canada’s Climate Twinkle Toes, he of the blessed cotton socks, will leap forward to volunteer “his” country .

      • Canada could host it in the far north during the winter to see the melting ice. Perhaps they could get there ahead of time to get frozen in. Oh! What am I thinking, winter is a thing of the past.
        ( either you’ll know it’s sarc or think it’s a good idea and actually go )

        • They could even have it on the edge of the NW passage – after all it will be ice free next November and all of the delegates can get there in luxury yachts.

          • We should mention that Canada will not pay for anything. They should bring their own tent and sleeping bag, and perhaps a rifle to get some food. Polar Bear meat anyone?

          • I second that! Hold it in the Arctic in November, and use the Northwest Passage to get there!
            Priceless, and Trudeau can go first in a T-shirt to prove to us that snow is a thing of the past.

      • Problem… A general election is held in Canada every 4 years (or sooner if a vote-of-confidence or budget defeat brings down the government). The next one is due October 21, 2019. This would be just weeks before the conference date. Now imagine if Trudeau loses to the Conservatives. If you think the UN is scrambling now, imagine a real last-minute-panic in October-November 2019. China has “regime stability” so they’d be the obvious choice.

    • Let all the 10.000+ delegates fly to a small Pacific island state, maybe their combined weight would make it sink just a little bit.

  1. ‘In my opinion Brazil’s very public snub of the United Nations climate cabal sends a strong message that the Bolsonaro government’s priority is attracting investment and maximising economic growth.’
    I’m sure they will find the Chinese are suitable investors, as they have few qualms about flattening a thousand square miles of natural habitat in order to make a quick buck.

    • No the Chinese will be hiding at the moment, sometime last Month they passed thru the power generation and emission ceilings they were supposed to peak at. What is fascinating is the complete silence about it from the Green Blob and activists.

      • Yeah – I saw that too. Its very weird that none of the propagandists screaming about global warming mentioned it.

        • Jan,
          I am pretty sure that – watermelons as they may be – they will not wish to embarass one of their main sponsors.
          The other, I suggest, is poisoner Putin.

          Auto

      • But their emissions will only increase until 2030 when they will probably start declining, if things follow the current estimates. If not, then not. Later, maybe.

        The coming collapse of the international economy will reduce emissions considerably. Then as the temperature drops into the solar slump, they can all cry, “Correlation!” Heh heh!

        My, we live in interesting times.

        • Empires and economies have risen and fallen with warming and cooling climate, respectively, for the last 10,000 years. Why should now be any different?

        • China would peak and decline before that whether they want to or not. The demographics of their “one child policy”, will significantly reduce demand for energy of all types. Not that it matters. They will have cleaned up their “real pollution”, and virtual pollution will be at the bottom of their concerns. As it should be.

    • Nuts. (Fawlty Towers) . The BRI is the key to American economies, Brasil especially. VP Pence is on a frothing China bashing hogs back trying with a few pence to counter the investment potential of the BRI, laughable. The DOJ will try any kind of color revolution to topple anyone who joins the BRI. That is why Trump is under fanatical attack at home. The meeting in Buenos Aires is key.

      • I hate to ask this, but it seems like you were trying to make an interesting point, but they way you laid it out is incomprehensible, at least to me. Is there a way you could rewrite it with a few more words for dummies like me? Thx.

        • Ok. Trump’s often stated intention to work with Russia and China especially, a “good thing”, is driving the “deep state” neo-libs, neo-cons berserk. Especially now with the Buenos Aires meeting. The Ukrainian berserkers are at it again. China bashing is in full swing. Incredible press savagery all round. Even the Guardian, grauniad, admitted lying about Manafort.

          China’s BRI – Belt and Road Initiative, a win-win economic policy, is the largest economic program in history. Africa and South America are signing up. V.P Pence epitomises the neocon reactionary attack on this.

          “Deep state”, neocon, neolib, are just sleeves of a pinstriped British Imperial suit.
          They are so worried about Trump not believine his admins environment report, but are hysterical about a strategy where Russia, China, USA together start major economic development. With that they gone bunnies ( as in rabbit).

          • Bonbon
            Thanks. I think.

            Auto – still confused, but on a higher level, if I may be allowed to quote . . .
            (Not sure who. Fermi, perhaps)

        • Auto – surely you don’t mean Fermi’s famous comment “where are the aliens”?
          The other end of the Silk Road is right on this planet to – even Marco Polo knew that (when faking the distance).

        • Belt And Road Initiative – the New Silk Road. You know , the road Marco Polo discovered? Surely some here have heard of that ?
          This time, with modern transport over land and sea, including the Arctic.
          Freight is already rolling to Europe. Africa is in. Ibero America is under tremendous pressure to stay out with the Chicago Boys – Let’s see what Bolsonaro does..

          • Sure beats hegemony via austerity, greeniness, bailouts, migration chaos, regime change, color revolutions, assassinations, looting- all epitomized by Obama telling South Africa to forego air-conditioning or the world would melt.

            BRI is about win-win, not some British zero-sum game with strong accents.

            And win-win we used to have until Nixon pulled the plug.

            So onto a New Bretton Woods with a Marshal Plan on a scale never before seen.

  2. This in encouraging news! One can only hope that other countries follow Brazil in declining the “honor” of hosting a hoard of free-loading climate alarmists and UN flunkies.

    • Or Bognor? Or Barmouth? Or Margate?
      I’m sure a multitude of struggling British seaside resorts would love one of these with the British government (aka taxpayers) picking up most of the costs but businesses (local and otherwise) picking up the vast profits to be had from charging whatever they want to countless thousands of government, NGO etc funded virtue-signalling revellers.
      Such is the green brainwashed state of the great majority of our politicians, I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if Britain picks up the ball and runs with it.

      • How about ‘independent’ Scotland making a bid with sunny Aberdeen. In October? After all, the SNP is trying to flaunt (note: correct use) its ‘green’ credentials! Let the Government and NGO ‘trippers’ see – and feel – what the other 99% of the world has to put up with. ESPECIALLY if there’s one of the famous stationary anticyclones hanging over the North Sea. (I.e. no sun, no wind, and LET THEM FREEZE!)

    • Skegness? I truly hope so. When I was a young sailor with a few days shore leave (Uniform was compulsory even off duty), being slightly inebriated, I was mugged there and the dastards even took my hat. I was fined when I got back to ship sans hat.

  3. I don’t understand how not hosting a major conference would result in cost savings, unless perhaps it’s the government of Brazil who must provide the meeting facilities for free? Perhaps they could have insisted on compensation in exchange for hosting, and the UN could have used some of that global warming to fund it? If life on earth is at stake, I’m sure they could have come up with the funds.

    A lot of expense-report visitors would fill a lot of hotel rooms and restaurants.

    • It’s true that cities vie to host conferences. It’s a major boost for the local tourist industry.

      On the other hand, when there are politicians who must be protected, things get expensive.

      The 2010 G8/G20 conference is said to have cost 1.1 billion, the vast majority of which was for security. link

      • They could really do us a favor by holding the conference, but forgetting about that whole “security” thing. Then let the have-nots the Eco-Nazis want to keep in serial poverty have at ’em.

    • The security bill alone would be massive. The old COP23 site states
      https://www.cop23.de/en/public/information-for-the-public/

      The UN Climate Change Conferences do cost a lot of money. However, if one considers these costs relative to the progress achieved in climate action up to now, these costs are absolutely justified. The actual costs of COP23 are not yet known and can only be quantified after the climate summit.

      I have never seen the costs actually reported because we would all probably have a heart attack, but if anyone has seen the numbers feel free to share.

    • Steve O

      “…I don’t understand how not hosting a major conference would result in cost savings,…”.

      You’re kidding, right?

  4. In my opinion Brazil’s very public snub of the United Nations climate cabal sends a strong message that the Bolsonaro government’s priority is attracting investment and maximising economic growth.

    Well they just blew their chance to get a major new Amazon, Apple or Google facility.

    • Bolsonaro appointed Chicago Boy Levy as head of the BNDES bank- the same ideology as the Argentine Gov’t. The only comparison is with Pinochet where investment meant privatization, austerity, riots and suppression.
      Bolsonaro just squeezed in by Moro jailing Lula, after a US regime change Lavo-Jato of Dilma Rousseff. The only “western” invitation to tea for Pinochet was Maggie’s. Will Bolsonaro do another Operation Condor?
      Sure, dumping the conference looks like a sacrificed goat on the alter of the economy.

        • You mean Pinochet’s “solution”? The Chicago Boy? Schulz’s economic hit man?

          Neocons believe countries have no right to self determination with a government of their choosing for their choice and by their choice.

    • Toppling the big American oligarchs running far too much of the world economy is next on the agenda. Those companies are modern-day imperialist trying to impose bizarre nonsense on the rest of the world.
      Brazil is acting on what is obvious.
      Modern imperialism in the name of “climate change” us just as enslaving and exploitive as 19th century imperialism.

      • I’d say it’s worse by far. At least under 19th century imperialism the countries being “empired” for their resources got development and economic improvement to some extent – the Eco-Nazi agenda seeks to permanently ban any such development or economic growth in the name of “saving” the “planet” from the non-existent “catastrophe.”

        • “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.” link

          Big corporations can be every bit as evil as big governments. Power corrupts.

        • Critical reading skills don’t seem to be your strong suit.
          I said, “running too much”. Not running.
          You might want to read up on the anti-trust activities underway or being considered in Europe and the US.
          Also read up on the World Bank and IMF moves to defund fossil fuel plants in the 3rd world.
          But thanks for playing, and better luck next time.

  5. How’s about Paris with the proviso that all delegates have to wear hi-vis yellow vests and buy their own petrol 😛

  6. Bolsonaro’s incoming foreign minister, Ernesto Araujo, a career diplomat, has called the movement to reduce global warming a plot by “Marxists” to stifle the economic growth of capitalist democracies while lifting China.

    …someone else said that exact same thing

    • Bannon, dumped by Trump.
      Trump will meet Xi and Putin in Buenos Aires now. So first Ukraine tries WWIII with Russia, and China bashing is double full bore. The USA, Russia, China working together (India must too) is the waking nightmare of Britain’s collapsing death grip on the world economy. In this collision, CO2 is easily jettisoned. The fight is an another level entirely.

        • “What on earth are you talking about?!”

          Yuk! Yuk! That’s not the only person who’s “Stuck in the 50s.”

        • How about Steele’s dodgy dossier, Halper’s and Downers spying?
          George Papadopoulos Tweet on Thursday:

          Its not really a secret who the British sources were that were illicitly spying on Trump and me and others. They are fighting to keep this private. I will lay them out here:
          1) Tobias Ellwood [a Conservative MP]
          2) Stefan Halper
          3) Alexander Downer
          4) British Embassy in DC
          5) GCHQ
          6) Erika T

          Rather an Imperial pedigree interfering in a US presidential election, what?

          • Ok, I have to ask. Why were the British spying on you? Trump, I can understand. what with him being a US presidential candidate at the time would make him of interest to foreign actors the world over. But who are you that they would be interested in spying on?

            You are starting to remind me of a former co-worker who was always going on about the black helicopters flying over his house and the Bilderbergers and what they do in their “secret meetings” (that required shutting down entire cities. Just how they keep their meetings secret with such a public action he never did explain or for that matter how he knows about these secret meetings what with them being secret and all) and how if they knew what he knew they’d kill him.

          • John,
            Perhaps suggesting they lone their hats with ton foil – so nobody can read their thoughts – may help.

            Auto

          • They are not illicitly spying, Bonbon.

            Firstly there is no such thing as illicit spying in the same way there is no such thing as an illegal war.

            If you want to spy on someone or go to war with someone you do not need their permission. There can be questions on who actually authorise the spying, but either you are gathering information on a subject or you are not.

            Which brings us to the second point; why bother with formal spying on someone when you can just data mine from Facebook?

          • Yeah Auto. Tin foil head wear is all the rage with those fellow.

            Another thing that got me about my former co-worker, he was so sure that “if they knew what he knew they’d kill him” and yet he had no problems telling anyone who would listen all about these “secret” meetings and the fact that he knew all this stuff that they didn’t want known. Seems to me if you have knowledge that you are sure could get you killed, blabbing about it to every tom, dick and harry you meet probably isn’t such a good idea.

          • It’s really incredible – Britain got caught red-handed in regime change right in the USA. Hubris anyone? The broke rule number 1 – don’t get caught.
            Trump has all the cards – he can declassify, any time of his choosing.
            Look at Integrity Initiative and say with a straight face “tin foil”.
            I’ll try and keep a straight face. Makes CNN look redundant.

            ROFL!

      • Britain has a death grip on the world economy?

        Please send me some of whatever it is you have been smoking.

        Britain doesn’t even have a death grip on it’s own economy. The EU does.

        • Is this anything like a Vulcan death grip perchance? Sadly the only grip our ignorant and self-serving “greenthinking” establishment has is on their wallets as they stuff as many wind and eco subsidies they can lever out of a gullible electorate while they can get away with it.
          The rest of this supposed grip on world events increasingly looks like the last gasp grasp of a dying jellyfish. Or that of Emperor Penguin across the Channel.
          Perhaps that’s what you were really thinking of?

        • Actually the British economy is in dire straits – hence Brexit. Part of it was the attempt at a pre-run of world government called the Maastricht EU. Did’nt quite work out, and guess who proposed the U.S.E (Umited States of Europe)- none other than Churchill who borrowed it from, guess who – none other than Oswald Moseley, just after someone just failed at it. Need I say more?
          All such imperial “best made plans of mice and men” run aground – the economy is collateral damage.
          So the horrible inconvenient truth is something far deeper than Brexit – hence the incredible confusion, writhing, mad tango, fake outrage, harrumphing – it is really something the greatest Bard could present at the Globe, far beyond Hamlet or Queen Lear.

      • Yea we get it.
        Not doing whatever Russia wants is always evil.
        How dare the Ukraine think it has a right to be independent.

        • If Putin wanted Ukraine, he’d have it by now.

          He doesn’t want it, because it’s an economic basket-case run by politicians who are owned by the neo-cons who are trying to start WWIII.

          I don’t like Putin that much, but, unlike many in the West, he’s not trying to murder me and everyone I”ve ever known.

          And, yes, it would be great if Ukraine was independent, and not owned by murderous asshats.

        • Ukraine run by Banderistas, supported by Britain, USA and Canada, even some of the EU? Just askin’ – do you know of Stefan Bandera or the Azov Brigade?

          The Pres. has no chance of winning , a provocation though will likely backfire. It had its intended effect – deep-sixing Trump’s planned talk with Putin.
          Ukraine since the regime change against Yanukovych is all used up by neocons like Nuland who boasted of the funding.

    • Latitude

      A Marxist plot, what a crock of shit.

      The West is shooting is self in the foot at every opportunity and it’s their own fault for clinging to the climate change farce and minority pressure groups in general.

      China is doing what any responsible country should do, ensure prosperity for it’s people. Strangely enough the ‘Marxist plot’ now see’s China enjoying many millionaires, since when did Marxism condone that?

      The Chinese appear to have adopted a hybrid communist/Capitalist political system and even allowing for the difference in population to wealthy Western countries, their progress in a single generation has been meteoric.

      Nor do I think there’s much doubt they are operating a Colonial style rush for prosperity which, similar to most Colonial operations, has human rights as it’s last consideration. But the West eventually sorted that out, indeed, the UK still operates alongside it’s Colonies.

      Colonialism, sans the brutality, seems to be the only answer for Africa. They have had the same time and opportunity as the West to drag themselves from poverty, but largely continues to fail. Indeed, Zimbabwe was run along sophisticated and humane Colonial lines until the true, deluded, self confessed Marxist, Mugabe pitched up and turned the country from the bread basket of Africa into a dust bowl of poverty.

      Until the West gets it’s finger out its arse, ignores the do gooders and pseudo environmentalists/insane greens/minority pressure groups, China will pitch it’s claim to Africa (amongst others) by fair means or foul and the world will be in thrall to an industrious and ambitious nation.

      America and the UK could both have been described thus in times gone by but we have lost the appetite for progress. Our politicians are too interested in listening to minority pressure groups who influence the entire direction of our nations, whilst China is more interested in delivering prosperity to the majority of it’s people.

      China isn’t the enemy, the West is it’s own worst enemy.

      Ironic, huh?

      • Britain has no problem working with China , what the RIIA is going nuts about is the big 4 working together (China,Russia,USA,India) to bring a New Bretton Woods Financial architecture, badly needed to give the Belt and Road Inititative (BRI), win-win economics, full freedom.

        As far as political correctness goes it is a marxist spinoff of the Frankfurt School, not from China, which has re-discovered its Confucian mercantilist tradition in a modern form xactly like FDR’s New Deal, but on a massive scale.

        No Africa does not need Rhodes neo-colonialism again. As FDR sid to Churchill, he would not fight fas-ism to put the Empire back in the seat. The Bretton Woods than facilitated the massive post war boom.

        • Britain has no problem working with China because apart from their ‘death/dead’ grip, they are globally has beens.

          China to them is a trade deal from an abstract place on the map on the other side of the planet.

          China to may other nations is a slowly expanding geo-political concern on the same side of the planet who could one day annex some friends and trading partners.

          Britain may be happy, but Britain also is happy to be Brussels’s sub. Britain may be happy with the situation but other nations are more concerned with the possibility that they may need to fight a small scale border war with them within the current defence purchase cycle.

          China is… complex. Saying China Bad, or China the Future grossly over simplifies the problem.

      • HS the climate ‘plot’ actually is a Neo-Marxist (Champagne Socialists) vehicle for New W Order global gov by bringing down western economies.

  7. “Cost saving” means Brazil no longer wishes to waste $billions in adhering to the insane and meaningless Paris Climate Accord they erroneously signed…

    The number of countries bailing on the Paris Accord will continue to increase as CAGW’s bogus catastrophic climate projections continue to become more and more devoid from reality.

  8. A deafening silence here now from the “Marxist” slammers, when Bolton’s favorite Bolsonaro echoes?
    As Politico reports on popular Dr. Jordan Peterson’s bete-noire on Apr 9 2018 , the definitive 1995 article :
    The New Dark Age, The Frankfurt School and Political Correctness by Michael Minnicino
    is devastating. Names like Heidegger (Hit-ler’s ghost writer), Lukacs, Arendt (Heidegger’s mistress), Adorno, Marcuse , and the CIA, pop up. Rather embarrasing to Britains neo-cons, what?

    [As others have noted, your writing style leaves many confused as to your actual point. As mods, we’re not even sure what to do with some of your comments. You might consider making your points in a more accessible fashion for those of us less tuned-in to your stream of consciousness. -mod]

      • At least someone sees the point. It goes far deeper than simple label slinging.
        That link above shows far more. The Frankfurt School, NY, of Arendt et al set out to literally take apart the fabric of US society, largely succeeded – Peterson is immensely popular pushing back.

        The von Mises Hayek meme avoids all of that, lawfully.

  9. Brazil should rather offer them the services of a cruise liner and have them sail their gabfest through the ice free North West passage.
    Hopefully after several moths of being stuck in the nonexistent ice, they might realize some of their predictions are a tad off.
    Then again since the ice doesn’t exist, their egos might prevent them from calling for help and stay there – I’m up for a contribution.

    • This is what happens when the ‘carbon’ madness infects everything. The climate charade is a huge swindle of epic proportion that leads to all this insanity. Surely you can see this?

  10. “It comes about a month before the inauguration of President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who has vowed to empower commercial ventures in the Amazon and other Brazilian biomes while weakening enforcement of environmental laws.”
    —————————————-
    And is this attitude to be applauded?
    This is just bad news.
    Native tribes displaced
    Forests burned etc.
    Who is paying this man, surely none on this blog can agree with thse policies?

    • That spin on the reforms Brazil has chosen is bogus.
      Reforming the corrupted policies that prevent change and prosperity based on false accusations from corrupt leftists and greens is vital.
      You should ask yourself why you have chosen to back climate imperialism instead of free people building their nation.

      • hunter November 29, 2018 at 8:16 am
        TYou should ask yourself why you have chosen to back climate imperialism instead of free people building their nation.
        ————————–
        from this comment I assume you are in agreement with slash and burn in Indonesia to get more palm oil to build their nation?

        Do you have no desire to see animal species continue to our futures.
        You seem to think that environment concerns are unimportant – that is just sad.

        • What makes you so confident that native tribes will be displaced and forests will burn? I mean, that could be the result, but I’m just wondering why you’re so confident that it is?

        • You seem to have no ability to engage rationally and that is pathetic.
          Much of the Indonesian problem is due to wealthy Western “progressives” demanding coconut oil at cheap prices…..one of the latest fads of the West.
          Of course I want preservation of eco diversity and health.
          It is the climate consensus that is wrecking the environment.
          Demanding that tropical 3rd world and developing countries becstuck in the past with unreliable expensive power assures massive environment destruction.
          But reactionary faux greens demand policies that do not work.
          Like the mess with California and Australia forest management, reactionary greens make things worse and deadlier.
          Ignorant shallow thinking, like yours, only makes things worse.

          • Greg Cavanagh November 29, 2018 at 7:17 pm … I mean, that could be the result, but I’m just wondering why you’re so confident that it is?
            ———————–
            tfp
            my reasoning (not confidence) is based on past destruction and the text used in the statement:
            “who has vowed to empower commercial ventures in the Amazon and other Brazilian biomes while weakening enforcement of environmental laws.”
            ———————

            hunter November 29, 2018 at 8:08 pm
            … Much of the Indonesian problem is due to wealthy Western “progressives” demanding coconut oil at cheap prices…..one of the latest fads of the West.
            [ I assume you mean palm oil?]

            It is the climate consensus that is wrecking the environment.
            Demanding that tropical 3rd world and developing countries becstuck in the past with unreliable expensive power assures massive environment destruction.
            But reactionary faux greens demand policies that do not work.
            ———————-
            tfp
            One of the reasons for the COP is that the richer west should pay the poorer countries to leapfrog the “industrial revolution pollution”.
            If, as most people want, the whole world to be living as the west does now – going through their own industrial revolution – then there would be a enormous overdemand on resources, and increased pollution. Looking at this logically the price of resources will increase worldwide so the west will lose out financially. Why not pay the money upfront and skip the pollution.
            Most of the poorer countries do not have the infrastructure to have centralised power generation. localised generators wind/solar would provide cheap, but intermittent power. Localised nuclear micro generators (or coal or gas) unfortunately require a source of water to run the steam turbines. Water is not always available.

          • I’ll bet you miss Obama, the One, telling South Africa to forego air-conditioning which would “melt the world”.
            Chins shows the way – industrial development for all- not just the lawn jockeys.
            Ever hear of Sir Henry Kissinger’s National Security Memorandum NSSM 200 naming the countries targeted for DE-industrialization to save “OUR” resources? He got the Queen’ s Order for boasting at Rhodes as serving the Crown in 4 US administrations.
            Even he, it seems, has mellowed, being a China expert now, who knows.

        • Do you have no desire to see animal species continue to our futures.
          You seem to think that environment concerns are unimportant – that is just sad.

          where did he say anything like that. Putting words into other peoples mouths is beyond sad.

          Just because others don’t share your delusions doesn’t make them bad or evil. The fact is there are many “green” policies that not only impede economic development but are simply bad for the environment. getting rid of such policies is a good thing. Just because it’s labeled “green” does not make it good, right, or just. (in fact that’s usually a good sign that it is none of those things).

          • @ Endicott
            hunter November 29, 2018 at 8:16 am
            TYou should ask yourself why you have chosen to back climate imperialism instead of free people building their nation.
            ———————————-
            the main article references:
            ” It comes about a month before the inauguration of President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who has vowed to empower commercial ventures in the Amazon and other Brazilian biomes while weakening enforcement of environmental laws.”

            Can you explain how this will not affect native populations and wildlife please?
            Also Indonesia and palm oil was mentioned and deforestation here is adversely affecting at least orangutans.

  11. My first reaction to this announcement was: Oh, SNAP!!! But I got better.

    $1.1billion spent on security, etc., can go a long way toward building a stronger economy.

  12. I suggest Point Barrow, AK for the conference. It has great views and it’s close to the klimate katastropies that are central to the konjectures of advocacy science.

    • … and three retirees with uniforms to handle security would be more than enough in January or February.

    • I suggest a cruise to Antarctica so they can see the melting sea ice for themselves. Only I further suggest that they would have to sign an agreement as they board said cruise that if they call in for a rescue ship to get them unstuck from the ice that would constitute an admission that they were wrong about CAGW.

  13. OT- Why has “Weather Picture of the Day” in the sidebar not changed in almost 2 weeks? Anybody know?

  14. Definitely it should happen in Germany. Maybe in Munich, where it would ensure (finally) an end to Angela’s Merkel’s destructive grip on power. Besides, the draft beer is great. Paris is an entertaining possibility (the smell of burning cars during the conference would be a very nice touch, especially since it would also reduce the delegates’ enjoyment of $150 bottles of French wine) but with Macron already a dead man walking (politically), a Paris conference wouldn’t really have any policy impact.

    • Yes indeed.
      The fruit of the climate consensus systematically denigrating and dodging skeptics is becoming ripe.

  15. I think it should be held in Edmonton, Alberta, CA.

    It is beautiful in Canada as winter sets in.
    And they can have all the attendees take a diesel bus ride out to
    the tar/oil sands and see the industrial side of Alberta.

    If they are lucky an Alberta Clipper will move in and they can discover
    what polar winds are like. I believe Alberta Clippers are akin to an reverse Katabatic wind
    and it would be nice for the participants to experience a 40 degree drop in one day.

    Then they all can take a break from strenuous climate activities and go to Banff and enjoy the Norquay Ski Resort whose snowfall has been increasing. Averages about 2 meters or more a year and who ski industry is growing.

  16. A deafening silence here now from the “Marxist” slammers, when Bolton’s favorite Bolsonaro echoes?
    As Politico reports on popular Dr. Jordan Peterson’s bete-noire on Apr 9 2018 , the definitive 1995 article :

    The New Dark Age, The Frankfurt School and Political Correctness by Michael Minnicino.

    is devastating. Names like Heidegger (Hit-ler’s ghost writer), Lukacs, Arendt (Heidegger’s mistress), Adorno, Marcuse , and the CIA, pop up. Rather embarrasing to Britains neo-cons, what?

    To pin that on China is just nuts.

  17. I vote for Churchill, Manitoba, the Polar Bear Capital of the World. That way they all can see, up close and personal, just how bad off the poor big white furry critters really are….

  18. There is a lesson here in how to manage the publicity, in fact a great opportunity for sceptics with bills to pay. There will be the inevitable deluge of wailing from the Green Blob, all eager to please their sponsors, so govts that choose to challenge the Blob need to deploy high quality information, and get it out to the public.

    C’mon sceptics, form charities and NGOs and get deploying the high quality arguments, here is my suggestion:

    We (the Brazilian govt) have performed a cost-benefit analysis, and have concluded that the carbon footprint of this conference would be damaging to the planet, and would produce no quantifiable benefit.

    • Yeah, you’d think with all that fossil fuel money coming in, we skeptics could afford to outspend the green blob on such organizations. That we don’t makes it seem like the “in the pay of fossil fuel companies” line is more myth than reality. Surely that can’t be (/sarc for the humor impaired and other assorted NPCs)

  19. The TNE (Trump Nation Effect) continues to expand worldwide. Unfortunately, so does the TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), but only on the left..

  20. In June 1992, more than 100 heads of states met in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil for the first International Earth Summit. It was held for addressing urgent problems of environmental protection and socio-economic development at the global level. This was one of the early global conferences to begin to address the issue of global warming as it was known at that time.

    In October, 2018, the newly elected Government of Brazil cancels the 2019 Major UN Climate Conference. The wheels are coming off this charade of what has become a farce with this war on ‘carbon’. And where much of this began in 1992, now Brazil wants nothing much more to do with all this crap.

  21. A CAGW ‘conference’ is a circus/media event which was developed to push CAGW.

    Brazil is focusing on their real problems which are solved by GDP growth which will in turn provide jobs and more money to tax.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-paris-summit-a-colossal-waste-of-time/article27751521/

    Climate activists know there’s not much point bugging India or China, which will simply ignore them, kick them out or lock them up. So they’ll keep haranguing the rich world. “We’ll be blocking pipelines, fighting new coal mines, urging divestment from fossil fuels – trying, in short, to keep weakening the mighty industry that still stands in the way of real progress,” warns Bill McKibben in The New York Times.

    We cannot solve any problems. We cannot even talk about the ruddy problems.

    CAGW is so very, very, important to the Zombies, that they have forced a yearly conference.

    Things we don’t talk about.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/books/review-retreat-of-western-liberalism-edward-luce.html

    Referenced in Roger Pielke Jr.’s lecture on ‘Climate Politics as Manichean Paranoia’

    Manichean Paranoia

    A politics by:

    – A Belief that the ‘issue’(William: Every dang issue which explains why it appears like an outbreak of madness) is good vs evil

    – A Sense that the ends justify the means (William: Lying, Fake news, & altering data is OK. Calling critical analysts deniers, and so on.)

    – An Unwillingness to engage in substantive policy debate (William: With facts, observations that do not support theories, unbiased analysis, honor, and so on.)

    – Millenarian rhetoric (William: Super hyperbole, that has zero physical basis. Earth will turn into Venus. Steven Hawkins.)

  22. Russia and Braziljust signed a MOU to develop nuclear power beyond Angra 1 and 2. Meanwhile :

    PRESIDENT EMMANUEL MACRON THIS WEEK ANNOUNCED FRENCH ENERGY GOAL OF SHUTTING DOWN 14 NUCLEAR REACTORS BY 2035, out of the 58 now running at 19 plants; and capping the volume of electricity from nuclear generation, at 50%, down from its high of 78%. He presented this insanity as a desirable way to reduce the use of fossil fuels for the nation, whose population have been protesting in the streets over high fuel prices and costs of living.

  23. Of course the Rio earth summit was hugely influential in all this, so Brazil has had a big role in CAGW. Abandoning it like this is really quite telling.

  24. ““The image of Brazil is at risk,” said Carlos Rittl, executive secretary of the Brazilian Climate Observatory, an environmental group. ”

    Yep, it’s all about image, not results.

    I vote they have it in Midland, TX.

    • All the hotels and motels in Midland run pretty full during the weekdays with field workers. So maybe FEMA could bring in a bunch of RV trailers and set up a big RV lot next to some frack drilling pads for all the delegates?

      The wafting smell of fresh raw crude, a hint of hydrogen-sulfide, all mixed with the diesel exhaust and dust would make for a good real-world experience for the delegates.

  25. I believe Ernesto Araujo was taking a page out of the Trump book in engaging in a bit of hyperbole when he called the CAGW movement a “plot by “Marxists” to stifle the economic growth of capitalist democracies while lifting China.” It’s an excellent way of tweaking the noses of those claiming to be “saving the planet”, and taunting them. They deserve every bit of it.

  26. Needs to be in Latin America, OK Venezuela would be great, get Soros to pay for it. After all this is about saving the planet. Great liberal cause!

    • The big environmental problem in Btrazil isn’t the Amazon rainforest – the loss there is trivial. It is the conversion of the cerrado woodland south of the Amazon into soybean fields, which is happening at a tremenduous rate.

      But all those soybeans go to China, so it is a no-no subject to right-thinking environmentalists.

      • “the cerrado woodland …”

        Isn’t that more accurately described as scrubland? I’ve read FOE pieces bewailing the threat, and a piece in the Economist lauding its clearing. There doesn’t seem to be any real threat to biodiversity there (i.e., extinction), except on a local scale.

  27. Trump should offer to have the US host it in Casper Wyoming.

    The delegates could get bus tours of the Powder River Basin and Gillette area surface coal mines, and the Pacificorp Dave Johnston generating plant down the road in GlenRock. And there are 5 big wind turbine farms jus to the east of Casper so the renewable energy true believers can go worship their icons. A little further down towards Cheyenne-Denver corridor they could tour some fracking operations on the Niobrara.

    And if the delegates don’t like the idea of Casper in November, maybe Midland-Odessa Texas would be a good host site? Lots of frack operations of course there to tour.

    All in all, the delegates could then get a better grasp on how the US will help power the world with coal, petroleum and LNG exports in the coming decades. And also on how ridiculously small and ineffective are renewables power sources compared to the world’s needs for energy.

  28. If security is a problem, why not host it on a small island, like the Canaries or the Balerics (sp?) or the Andemans?

    • I’ve recently heard of great little island, North Sentinel Island, that they could host it in the beautiful tropical waters of the Indian Ocean. I hear the natives are very friendly.

      • We aught to find a small island where cannibalism , surely a matter of taste, being politically correct an’ all that, means invitation to diner just can’t be refused. Where is Columbus’ island of Satansia when we need it!

  29. Host it at Al Gores house . Drink in that lovely California wildfires air
    while pretending to be able to control the earth’s climate .
    It sucks when the USA isn’t being duped into picking up the tab all the time .
    Maybe Brazil just doesn’t want a bunch of eco warriors defacing their prized heritage monuments .
    Good move Brazil ! The paid vacation seekers will just have to pick another sucker .

  30. I’m quite surprised. Over my life I have found myself continuously “lowering the bar” when judging the actions of others, particularly politicians.

    No politicians I know of would miss out on the chance to bilk the taxpayers for tens of millions of dollars to host an international climate summit. Though he sits on the opposite side of the table as his predecessors, I expected Bolsonaro to play the same game they did. I’m glad to have my expectations proven wrong. I only hope that he continues to do in the future as he is doing now.

  31. Bolsonaro might want to posture on this issue with his voters but he is playing a very dangerous game with his country’s long-term future if he decides to go ahead and withdraw from the 2015 JPCC Climate Change Agreement.
    Trump will soon be gone and it has already been shown that his stance agaunst climate change is in complete opposition to other world leaders who are committed to tackling this as a global rather than simply a national problem: https://mankindsdegradationofplanetearth.com/2018/11/30/indisputable-facts-on-climate-change/

    • The TNE (Trump Nation Effect) continues to expand worldwide. Unfortunately, so does the TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), but only on the left..example….see any Ivan Kinsman posts..

  32. I find it ironic how these people are saving the Planet by hosting expensive and wasteful conferences. They could easily just use Skype, but that wouldn’t gather the same amount of attention. Clear sign that they don’t actually care and just want the money and influence. It’s just politics as usual.

  33. And now a Belgian “green” politician has suggested to our Prime Minister to held COP25 here in Belgium.

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