Global Warming? Kangaroos Dying of Cold and Hunger in Australia’s Capital

Canberra Australia

Canberra Civic viewed from Mount Ainslie with Lake Burley Griffin and Mount Stromlo in the background. By BidgeeOwn work, CC BY-SA 3.0, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t IceAgeNow & Climate Depot – Australia’s capital city Canberra is being flooded by kangaroos desperately flocking to the irrigated nature reserves and Canberra’s urban heat island to avoid starvation and freezing temperatures.

Mobs of kangaroos take to streets of Australia’s capital over food shortages

By Samantha Beech, Mitchell McCluskey and Susannah Cullinane, CNN
Updated 0805 GMT (1605 HKT) July 30, 2018

(CNN)Mobs of kangaroos have been raiding patches of grass in the Australian capital Canberra, driven to the city’s sports fields, back yards and roadsides by food scarcity.

Canberra has more than 30 nature reserves, with most hosting hundreds of Eastern Grey Kangaroos, and it is not unusual to see them in the reserves or in roads or yards nearby, Australian Capital Territory (ACT) Parks and Conservation Service Director Daniel Iglesias told CNN.

But he said this winter the animals were far more visible.

“Canberra is experiencing a perfect storm of hardship for its kangaroos. New records have been set in Canberra for very cold, frosty nights this winter. This, coupled with very dry conditions with very little rain at all in June and July, means there is very little food for kangaroos, ” Iglesias said, via email.

“Sports ovals, suburban yards, schoolyards and roadsides are the few places offering any green grass at all in Canberra at the moment and they act as magnets for kangaroos,” he said.

Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/30/australia/australia-canberra-kangaroo-boom/index.html

Canberra, which is part of the Australian Capital Territory, our version of District of Columbia, is a hotspot of Australian CAGW enthusiasts. The green obsessed ACT government funded the original production of the play Kill Climate Deniers.

No doubt the locals will blame global warming for the distress of ACT’s kangaroo population.

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Latitude

For some strange reason, liberals seem to think that things are supposed to stay the same…..including climate…….one time you get more kangaroos….the next time you get less
The high number is not normal either…

Latitude

““Sports ovals, suburban yards, schoolyards and roadsides are the few places offering any green grass at all in Canberra”

..and what they are not saying
If it wasn’t for people and the development liberals hate……the roos would all be dead

ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N

Too true. The roos used to come out of the bush into Puckapunyal army area when dams in the fields were dry. But if any of them died, it was usually bullets wot dun it, because culling.

Marcus

Mmmmm.. roasted Roooooo !

MarkW

Put another on the barbie.

Dean

Nope that’s simply not true.

The numbers would reduce, just like every single time roos are in a difficult environment.

They are a fantastically adapted animal for changing climate. In times of drought, females can pause the development of an embryo until conditions improve. When conditions are good female kangaroos can have three young ones with them at the same time: one as an embryo (not yet born), one in the pouch attached to a teat and one outside the pouch but still drinking the mother’s milk.

Kangaroo populations have an ability to rapidly expand when times are good.

HotScot

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The cold in Canberra and the whole of SE Australia has been so bad this winter that volunteers are busy knitting emergency woolen jumpers for use by Australia’s 30,000,000 kangaroos, many of whom live in the SE of Australia.

Woz

A bit redundant knitting jumpers for jumpers …?
(Sorry – couldn’t resist!)

eyesonu

30 million?

John F. Hultquist

According to the Australian Government the population of kangaroos was at 34,303,677 million as of 2011.
Now?

Greg Cavanagh

I’m glad to see their population estimate is so accurate.

Patrick MJD

Because they use Canadian rounding.

John F. Hultquist

New government data shows Australia’s kangaroo population is close to hitting 50 million.

Patrick MJD

They are 97% sure of that too.

NorwegianSceptic

Being so adaptable (especially with woolen jumpers), maybe they could replace ‘the soon to be extinct’ polar bears…..?

intrcptr2

34,303,677 million????

Egads!!
We need to surround Oz with subs, before they leave and conquer us all!!

D. J. Hawkins

The good news is, with 37 million million, if they try to leave OZ the whole continent will tip over and they’ll drown. So sorry about everybody else.

Pameladragon

Er…how do they plan to get the beautiful, hand-knit jumpers on the wild roos? And will the animals, once clothed, actually appreciate the gesture or will they immediately shred them to tiny bits?

Wayne Job

I think that the influx of Roos into Canberra will see the average I.Q. of the inhabitants increase.

John Bell

Where in the heck is all this UNHINGED LEFT going? Will it ever settle down? All the climate nuts and YT videos of marxist professors and antifa and this and that, well the up side is great entertainment, i laugh at them every day!

Marcus

“Where in the heck is all this UNHINGED LEFT going? ”

Much farther “Left” obviously !

“WA Dem Socialist Runs in Mold of Ocasio-Cortez, Insists Medicare for All Can Be Paid For ”

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/01/democratic-socialist-candidate-sarah-smith-running-washington-sanders-and-ocasio-cortez

Which means you get results like this……..

“‘I’m Confused’: ICE Official Corrects Hawaii Dem Who Thought Trump Created Immigration Law ”
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/01/ice-official-corrects-senator-mazie-hirono-confused-illegal-immigration-law-and-trump

… D’OH !

RyanS

ROFL, you guys are so easy to dog-whistle. What has any of this got to do with politics? Eric disingenuously sneaks the word “cold” into the headline and you all start wheezing and spluttering. There is nothing unhinged about drought.
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=decile&period=6month&area=ns
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Kenji

Is that … “natural cyclical drought” … or “sudden catastrophic never before seen horrific manmade global warming drought”? Speaking of dog whistles.

RyanS

The graph speaks for itself.

Lurker Pete

Dorothea Mackellar said it better than the graph I think..

The love of field and coppice
Of green and shaded lanes,
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins.
Strong love of grey-blue distance,
Brown streams and soft, dim skies
I know, but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me!

The stark white ring-barked forests,
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon,
Green tangle of the brushes
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the tree-tops,
And ferns the warm dark soil.

Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When, sick at heart, around us
We see the cattle die
But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady soaking rain.

Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the rainbow gold,
For flood and fire and famine
She pays us back threefold.
Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze …

An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand
though Earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.

ThomasJK

Who’ll come a waltzing Matilda with me…..

MarkW

Actually the graph only speaks for current conditions. It says nothing about context.

MarkW

Speaking of dog whistles, here you are to complain about people discussing stuff you would rather they not.

RAH

Just like deer react to tough times or places here in the US. Anyone driven US 277 in Texas up from Eagle Pass to Del Rio and then from there US 90 on up to the junction with I-10 at Van Horn? A fair amount of that route follows along the Mexican border. We’re talking passing through what was once Judge Roy Bean territory. More than once taking that route at night this truck driver has 100 to 200 white tails grazing the grass right next to highways in the arid land along that route. Best grazing around I guess and a big rig flying past at 55 mph doesn’t phase them a bit.

The grass by the highway is greener. That’s where water goes, even when it’s a little bit. You do have to be somewhat careful of deer on I 287 in NJ, lots of roadkill. Nobody is doing 55… unless it’s rush hour, then it’s a slow moving parking lot.

Johann Wundersamer

rishrac
The grass is greener by the highway. That’s where water goes,
________________________

yes, rishrac.

rainwater draining from the road promotes green.

And the abrasion from the road contains salts, minerals and trace elements.

Also cattle often graze close to the highways.

Salts, minerals and trace elements is the most missing in vegetarian nutrition.

Just as we season salad with salt and pepper, grass-eaters seek the edge of the road with seasoned food.

MarkW

The warmth from the asphalt also promotes growth earlier in the spring and later into the fall.

Mal W

Roos respond faster than deer. They have unique reproductive mechanisms that allow the delaying of maturity of a second joey that feeds from a specialised teat. When good conditions return, the next joey is only weeks away from being ready to move into the pouch. Roo populations rebound faster than most species.

Dan Evans

Kangaroos are a major hazard to motorists when there is a shortage of feed. This current drought in Australia is one of the worst in living memory. Roads are littered with dead roos, smash repairers and tow truck drivers are doing well tho
Kangaroos are amazing survivors, but no road sense…

Peter Kemmis

Dan, I don’t know which country you live in, but we had a much worse drought for much longer in the 1990s and into the 2000s. I went through that with my four thousand sheep, often feeding them (oats, hay, lupins, even wheat – have to be careful with change of diet for them). One time when discussing the drought with a local copping farmer, he likened it to the Federation drought of the late 1890s, which I think was shockingly worse.

Sure, it’s dry now, but not the worst in living memory. Western Australia has been doing it tough for a few seasons, and over here in the south-east, it’s dry again. It was pretty dry in the late 1970s-early 80s, then it rained again. The first part of the 1970s was much wetter.

One has but to look at some of Australia’s literature of the 1800s and the first half of he 1900s, to realise how droughts and floods come and go. As do social fads and fears. During the last drought, I remember standing in the heat of the morning (perhaps in the early 2000s), wondering about global warming and what it would be like for the kids and grandchildren. It was not till I started reading some IPCC reports in 2010, that I woke up to what I now think is one unholy scam. At the very least, it started as a social fear. It is just too easy to forget what we have experienced, to ignore history (human and physical), to think that what we are now dealing with is a new paradigm.

Speaking of unholiness, “the Italian philosopher Giordano Bruno (1548-1600), believed in the sun-centred Copernican system, and for these heretical beliefs he was burned at the stake'” (“The Little Book of Scientific Principles, Theories and Things” 2005, Surendra Verma p.20). So I suppose some things have improved since then.

Dean

I used to travel a section of the Golden Highway in the Hunter Valley, Australia. In summer there would be a dead (and rapidly expanding in the 40 degree C + temps) kangaroo carcass every 20m or so on one very dicey 15km section just south of Singleton.

It was very trying while on a motorcycle trying to hold your breath through the worst bits. Always breathed through your mouth and even then on a bad day you could taste the stench.

And from the size of some of the dead ones, I would have hated to run into the ones pushing them out onto the road! I never hit one but had a couple of close calls at 100kmph – you rode at them, most of the time they moved and the ones which didn’t didn’t take much getting around.

However I ALWAYS slowed down to walking speed to go past the Wedge Tailed Eagles feasting on the dead roos in the afternoons.

ATheoK

“However I ALWAYS slowed down to walking speed to go past the Wedge Tailed Eagles feasting on the dead roos in the afternoons.”

Oh?
Do they take out motorcycles as well as drones?

I like those birds!

Craig from Oz

Wedgetails stuff themselves silly with the road kill until they are borderline food coma. The moment they finally decide that, maybe they should get out the way of the oncoming vehicle is also very close to the moment they realise they have eaten so much they can no longer take off as fast as they usually do.

What then normally happens is they end up going through your windscreen.

Treat with respect.

Dean

Having a large bird trying to take off as you ride past is not my idea of fun.

Usually one of them would not take off at all and just stare at you as you went past.

They are fabulous, on the afternoons when they are soaring I didn’t need much of an excuse to stop and watch them for a while.

Pat Frank

Rather off topic, though it does concern an alternative form of insanity in Australia.

Here is Lauren Southern accessing parts of Sydney under the suzerainty of the Middle East; conquered territory, as it were.

Whatever happened to the hard-minded people who used to inhabit that land?

Khwarizmi

Lakemba is under the suzerainty of local gangs. It’s the same with every ethnic ghetto created by our government.
Look at Victoria St Richmond on Google Maps street view.

Mike L.

Australian shame, as in the UK with the case of Tommy Robinson. LS talks so much sense, and uses logic, yet the police warn HER about breaching the peace instead of the Islamists who would create the trouble. She is talking today in Auckland, New Zealand, and I would like to go to hear her but the venue has not been announced because our PC mayor has banned her from publicly-owned venues and the lefties are intent on causing trouble. What a disgraceful situation is arising worldwide – has nobody the courage to face the real troublemakers?

Thomas Ryan

Why don’t the Roos hop north where it is warmer. Canadians and Minnesotans figured it out in North America. So did the Canada goose.
A poem:
Canada
If you want peace
Recall your geese

Johann Wundersamer

Folk-song-styled-verse

Li Qi

AN OLD WAR-SONG

Through the bright day up the mountain, we scan the sky for a war-torch;
At yellow dusk we water our horses in the boundaryriver;
And when the throb of watch-drums hangs in the sandy wind,
We hear the guitar of the Chinese Princess telling her endless woe….

Three thousand miles without a town, nothing but camps,
Till the heavy sky joins the wide desert in snow.
With their plaintive calls, barbarian wildgeese fly from night to night,
And children of the Tartars have many tears to shed;
But we hear that the Jade Pass is still under siege,
And soon we stake our lives upon our light warchariots.

Each year we bury in the desert bones unnumbered,
Yet we only watch for grape-vines coming into China.

ozspeaksup

cos its a LOT dryer where its warmer..top of nsw n parts of qld rpretty grim

Ron Long

Interesting report Eric. Here in Mendoza Province, Argentina, June and July were 2.2 deg C below the average, and that included three weeks below freezing. Snowpack is about 30% of normal for the date. I’m hoping it warms up because I’m a golfer and my balls don’t like the cold.

eyesonu

If kangaroos are like deer, rabbits, predators, or trees they need a little thinning from time to time or nature will do it.

Eat more kangaroos!

Woz

In that sense kangaroos are exactly like deer, rabbits, etc. There is an annual kangaroo cull in the Australian Capital Territory (Canberra’s home). This year the target was 3253, a thousand more than last year (haven’t seen the final cull number). And this is done under the auspices of a very green ALP Government!

eyesonu

I was kinda crackin’ a joke. I didn’t know there were that many. I guess one more little hopper every year would expand pretty fast over a ten year period. But they are cute.

Quilter52

As a Canberra resident, kangaroos stop being cute when they jump in front of your car. Another thing that is happening right now is the huge numbers being culled by car. Our local Animal liberationists try to stop the cull each year because ” its cruel and the “roos are endangered” . Not noticeably they are not endangered! Sooner or later we will have another road death because a big ‘roo jumps in front of a car . I drove home this morning from a meeting and counted 10 dead ‘roos in about 500 meters of road because so many are moving because the pasture has been eaten out. But don’t worry they will recover. Kangaroos are exquisitely designed for our boom and bust seasons. They can produce three young in a year, being pregnant, having an embryo in the pouch and a joey at foot.

Dan Evans

A female kangaroo is an unrivalled breeding machine. They can have several offspring at different stages of development, all at the same time, from a fertilised egg waiting to go, a tiny baby on the teat, one in the pouch and another at foot… Amazing animals

ozspeaksup

cute at a distance. unless handraised theyre NOT cute or cuddly
sorta like the poor svaalbard bear , thinking food landed this week n got shot
not cuddly enough

R. Shearer

Dem good eatin?

Patrick MJD

Yes actually. As Eric says, prepare carefully and don’t cook it to death. Bit bland without a marinade and a slight cows liver taste for me, but good for people with high cholesterol. I have yet to try emu and crock.

R. Shearer

Ever try using a crockpot?

LevelGaze

You must try emu.
Better than kangaroo!

John Gorter

Roo is best as steaks, marinated stuff in supermarkets has too much red dye I think. Croc is like chicken, rather bland, emu depends on if you go for the dark or the white meat, white rather tasteless. Camel also rather bland and like chicken. Red belly black snake, again like chicken but too many ribs!
Used to be able to buy frozen croc and buffalo in Darwin. Supposedly they shot out the buffalo – all imported and damaging the rivers and waterholes.
Ciao
John

Pameladragon

I have eaten both emu and gator. For a few years I kept a small group of emus in hopes of them reproducing. The meat, and there is not much, has a distinct lizardy flavor and we enjoyed it most as emu jerky. Gator is very good if properly prepared, it is white meat, slightly fishy, and usually ground and made into chili or cut into small chunks, battered and fried then served with a vinegary/garlic sauce.

eyesonu

“has a distinct lizardy flavor and we enjoyed it”

How was the lizard fare prepared?

Pameladragon

Stewed in a crock pot was lizardy, even the cats did not enjoy it. The jerky was delicious, however, prepared in a garlicky-sweet marinade with oregano. But almost any meat made into jerky with a good marinade will be yummy.

ATheoK

Gator is very good, as long as it’s fresh.

Jack Miller

Yep, I have an herb&garlic kangaroo steak ready for tomorrow evening

ozspeaksup

very good, pretty much only leg n backstrips though
tender and good on barbie or casseroled;-)

Bryan A

Back in the 60s they used to import Kangaroo Tail Soup which was an integral part of the Bubble and Squeak (rumble and fart) my mom used to make when we lived in Simi Valley Ca.

Dan Evans

It’s good meat, very lean – no intramuscular fat. Roo tail stew is an absolute delicacy, truly beautiful food

Sweet Old Bob

I had forgotten how a group of greens and a group of roos are alike ….

MarkW

A group of greens. Otherwise known as a salad.

Marcus

In CaliPornia, they have fruits and nuts on top !!

J Mac

“Hopping mad mobs of kangaroos are taking to streets of Australia’s capital over food shortages.” says Joey Inthepouch. “They’ve taken all they canberra.”
Details to follow. Film at eleven…..

KenB

I’m just praying for an angry mob of Kangaroos to abduct our Prime minister and his left wing anti coal mates and do us a service, as his green lefty mates are hanging on to the final destruction of the once great LNP, seems inevitable now, no place for conservatives in the government he squanders. The lights are going out all over Australia, and pensioners are freezing like the poor soul who rang Alan Jones (2GB radio commentator) begging for Malcolm to go, and another “Leader” take his place and dump the Paris Agreement and please build coal or nuclear power stations ASAP. The Lifetime LNP voter cannot afford to eat and heat her house. Get rid of Turnbull! if you want support and donations to fight the wasteful Party at the next General Election .

Craig from Oz

Next sitting day in Canberra is 16th August.

See what happens within the Liberals once everyone is in the same room again.

ozspeaksup

yeeah,,,but replace with labour who are in bed with greens as well as being even more inept at budgeting?
systems rigged so we cant get nats and indys as power

Lorne WHITE

Be thoughtful about both the benefits & perils of Coal.

In Ontario ~2004, the Liberals closed Nanticoke (largest Coal-fired generator in North America), claiming that it would save C$3B per year in medicare costs. We have single-payer, province-paid, basic hospital & medical insurance, plus private-paid extra coverage if wished.

My mum died of Alzheimers. Was that from mercury in the Coal smoke? I’ll never know, but asthma & other complaints Seem to be down. However, no journalist has ever researched whether that C$3B number was invented or true.

They then brought in the Green Energy Act to replace Coal and to allow Nuclear to be retired as our 3 plants reached their Bad After dates.
Instead, they’ve:
– refurbished the Nuclear plants as their zirconium boiler tubes deformed after ~20 years (always way over budget)
– hidden these refurbishing costs in the IESO Global Adjustment category for the Wind & Solar FIT contracts, so that we’ll never be able to tell the true cost of Nuclear OR Solar & Wind
– gave FIT contracts to Liberal Party friends
– didn’t require all new buildings to include or be designed for future Solar where possible
– and fiddled helter-skelter with rules & contracts so many times that we now have the highest electricity rates in North America (the Green Party quotes research that 45% of the increased rates derive from refurbishing Nuclear). A few companies have already left Ontario claiming that high electricity rates were a major part of their departure.

To be fair, the Liberals did a good job of:
– bringing in Smart Meters to encourage demand in mid & off-peak hours
– lowering FIT contract rates as Solar and Wind costs dropped
– encouraging Conservation to dramatically reduce demand

commieBob

A lot of wildlife thrives in urban environments. link

I live in a small city, my buddy lives in the woods. I’m pretty sure I hear more bird calls at my place than at his. My son lives in a similar sized city. There are coyote warnings on the path behind his house.

Environmentalists seem to think anything human is bad. Nature seems to disagree.

Pat Frank

Have you seen the wild boars of Berlin? 🙂

Also here

Apparently if one is in your backyard harassing your dog and over-turning your barbecue, and you shoot it, Berlin charges you for the meat.

J Mac

3 S’s……
Shoot. Shovel. Shut Up.

Same thing in NJ. The deer have adapted extremely well. As well as a number of other animals… like the black bears in northern NJ. Zipping along I 70 you’d never know there were bears 50 feet from the road, deer and the occasionally, what is that?

Pameladragon

“That” could well be a cougar! The are now east of the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virginia. Bears are lumbering their way to Richmond. And Europeans wonder why Americans have guns…when a bear is destroying your bee hives or a coyote or cougar is pulling down a calf, you better have a gun!

Greg Cavanagh

Birds definitely. A little story:
My dad was retired at Tin Can Bay, lots of birds of every description in town. We went for a drive to visit Carlo Sand Blow so I could do some photography. The bush is thick around the area and it’s all national park, but deadly quiet. Not a single bird anywhere. It was so quiet as to be eerie.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-25.9145113,153.0997907,622m/data=!3m1!1e3

Yirgach

There is a road in Kampala, Uganda which runs through a large forest, home to quite a few baboons. When one gets killed by a car, the rest will line the spot, jeer, throw rocks and jump on the cars. Not happy campers…

Pop Piasa

Tie me Kangaroo down, sport.
Tie me Kangaroo down!
(Sorry, just had to reminisce a bit)

Mr.

There’s one verse of that song that we used to sing along to as kids that nowadays would get you a hearing in front of the local magistrate.

JLC of Perth

Tan my hide when I’m dead, Fred
Tan my hide when I’m dead.
So we tanned his hide when he died, Clyde,
And that’s it hanging on the shed.

James Beaver

It’s all Trump’s fault. Who knew his malevolence reached so far south?
/sarc

Pop Piasa

I don’t suppose these ‘Roos might have escaped from ranches during power outages when the fence was off, would they?
😉

PeterW

Wild animals, mate. They jump fences designed to keep cattle and sheep in.
Farmers can’t use them, they eat fodder needed for stock, so we’d rather they went into suburbia anyway.

As it’s the urban greenies who protest frantically every time it is pointed out that there are too many roos and culling is required……. I can only laugh.

Pop Piasa

Sounds like the same problem we have here in the midwest US with too many whitetail deer.
I wonder which makes better sausage…
Do you have problems with them on the roads also?

Mr.

A big Eastern Grey hopped into the side of my Landcruiser and took out every panel.
I was only doing about 15 mph.
Then he got up, shook his head, and hopped off as if nothing had happened.
Bugger didn’t have the courtesy to exchange details or anything.

Pop Piasa

That reminds me of a lady friend who was driving home after having a few in the evening and suddenly her side window shattered with a bang. She thought that someone had fired a shot at her car and drove to an open fuel stop to call and report it. The attendant looked at her car and informed her that she had been hit by a buck that left marks and hide on the door while smashing the window with his antlers.
Our experiences are somehow similar even though our critters are different.

Pameladragon

Something similar happened to me in Virginia. I was driving north in the dark and the headlights picked up a small herd of whitetails on the left side of the road. I slowed to a crawl and one of them panicked and ran straight into the side of my SUV, bounced off, and ran away. Some of these critters are quite resilient.

ozspeaksup

hit one recently
lucky i had a decent roo bar he managed to twist it even so and stuffed the front end lost 2 tyres due to whatever it whacked outta place

Kneel

Friend of mine used to run a smash repair joint.
He tells the story of TWO cars written off by ONE roo! This mongrel landed in the middle of the road and got hit by two cars, one traveling in each direction.
One had the bottom half jammed under the bonnet, which destroyed the engine as well as the panel work. The other had the A pillar and windshield destroyed by the head, and the interior filled with fresh blood (both cars doing about 60-70MPH)

Only real issue with roo meat is the smell when raw – puts a lot of people off. If you marinade it with garlic and herbs, most of it goes away. And it’s gone once cooked. Nice meat, sort of 90% beef, 10% venison – very lean though, and very tough if you cook it wrong (either have it rare, or cook it long and slow, to avoid the toughness).

ozspeaksup

never rare mate
tapeworm, hydatids

ozspeaksup

and yet the limits to shoot the mongrels are so restrictive, yet we lost our roomeat sales to russia thanks to insane asskissing, following usa sanctions on russia. and our petfood industry could use every one properly
then the hides should also be used
damned good leather and rugs etc

james fosser

Here in Queensland on the Gold Coast, a favourite souvenir for a Japanese tourist is a Kangaroo scrotum purse. You can get a years worth of small change in one from a big red.

Kneel

Excellent leather, especially for motor bike riders – twice the strength at half the weight of cow leather. More flexible too. Pretty much all top-level pro riders use roo leather.

John Gorter

Ranches? we don’t have ranches in Australia – stations is the word.
Ciao
John

Rich Davis

How dare these kangaroos deny climate?

PeterW

Canberra is in a frost-basin anyway.

It’s not abnormally cold, but it IS dry. We get very little growth at this time of year, anyway, but the failure of autumn rains means that there is little grass. It’s called “drought” and they have been a part of the Australian climate for as long as we have records. Longer according to the geologists.

Slipstick

“Half-truth” Worrall strikes again. Let’s ignore the overpopulation and the lack of rainfall and blame it all on the fact that it got unusually cold this winter in a portion of Australia. Good grief.

Philip Schaeffer

The cold has little to do with it. It’s mostly about the drought causing a lack of food.

Beachbum

Let’s not go there, we’re better than the usual NYT and Guardian BS journalism about how hot it is. Why do the same on the cold side?

J.H.

The Humans are also dying from the cold conditions because the price of government mandated “Green” Electricity is so high that people of modest means can no longer afford to run things like heaters during winter and air conditioners during summer…. Though probably not the denizens of Canberra, that particular bureaucratic stronghold is only populated by people who live entirely off the Tax pool. The political elite, the permanent bureaucracy and their minions suffer no hardships, they’re very particular about that.

Shanghai Dan

So if I”m understanding this right…

We simply need to import more kangaroos to counter global warming?

Jeff

“flocking to the irrigated nature reserves and Canberra’s urban heat island to avoid starvation and freezing temperatures.”

They are looking for food during a severe drought.
Nothing to do with seeking an “urban heat island”

“Cold nights but warm days …..
In contrast, daytime temperatures were 1.5 °C above average, the warmest July days in Canberra since 2013
Only one day failed to reach a top of 10.0 °C, compared to a July average of seven days”

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/act/archive/201707.summary.shtml

NSW (which surrounds Canberra) had the 2nd warmest July on record.

“The average maximum temperature for New South Wales was 2.28 °C above average, making this the second-warmest July on record for daytime temperatures
Above average temperatures were recorded across the entire month: statewide daytime temperatures were above average for all but four days in July
The last weekend in July in particular saw record-breaking temperatures, with daytime temperature records reported at many long-term sites across New South Wales, from Goulburn and Griffith in the south to Walgett and Mungindi in the north”

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/nsw/archive/201707.summary.shtml

Alex

Why are you linking to July 2017? As far as I was aware it is 2018 now and has been for a large number of months.

John F. Hultquist

It is likely that Jeff is a “climate scientist” and it is their Al Gore given right to just make stuff up.

DW Rice

UAH doesn’t break Australia down into its constituent states, but according to Roy Spencer’s latest satellite temperature update, July 2018 was the warmest July on record across Australia (+1.37 C above the long term average). So it will be interesting to see the BOM data for July 2018.

Jeff

Alex, Sorry my mistake.
I googled it because I remember weather reports saying July was warm in NSW.
This is July 2018

ACT
Cold nights and warm days
July 2018 saw above average daily maximum temperatures across the ACT
Canberra Airport reported a mean maximum temperature of 13.3 °C during July 2018 which is the second warmest for July behind the 13.4 °C in 2013
The warmest day was reported on the 5th where Tuggeranong reached 18.7 °C which was an equal highest July temperature on record for the site
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/act/summary.shtml

Sydney, NSW
Warm days, cool nights
Mean daily maximum temperatures were the warmest on record for July for most sites across Greater Sydney
Mean daily maximum temperatures ranged from 1.4 °C above average at Lake Macquarie and Mount Boyce to 3.5 °C warmer than average at Observatory Hill
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/nsw/sydney.shtml

Patrick MJD

The BoM uses the temperature recorded at the airport to come up with an average for 1880.

DW Rice

Patrick MJD

“The BoM uses the temperature recorded at the airport to come up with an average for 1880.”
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Lots of weather stations currently sited at airports are extensions of records maintained previously in the local area. Aldergrove in N Ireland is one example I’m familiar with. It’s currently sited at the periphery of Belfast International Airport, well north of the airfield, but (somewhat fractured) local records extend back to the 1830s. Presumably these were originally used for agricultural purposes, etc.

Patrick MJD

I should have used a /sarc tag. Many weather sites are at airports today and record highs all the time. I was trying to make a joke of the fact that “climate science” likes to tell us they knew what the global average was back in 1880 when airports didn’t exist.

Gerard

And the government of the Australian Capital territory is committed to 100% renewable energy.

Fred250

But, very few, if any, wind turbines will be found within the bounds of the ACT.

NIMBY !!!

They are all well outside the ACT, and linked in through the fossil fuel reliance electricity network.

Its an “on paper” exercise at best.

Stefan

The long term average low temperature for Canberra in July is minus 0.1 centigrade. The July 2018 average low was minus 1.7 centigrade with the temperature on one night dropping to minus 7.4 centigrade.

Craig from Oz

“What’s that Skip? You and Sonny went to Canberra? And Sonny got arrested for not having a more gender neutral name?”

(your childhood television may vary)

Some other fun facts about the Roo that most people fail to remember is they basically evolved over the years to be the ultimate drought proof animal. The female roo has the ability to put a pregnancy on hold if food and water reserves are not high enough. Once they get into a ‘boom’ period things then restart and out pops a baby roo that is about the size of the tip of your finger. Through insane instinct this baby crawls up and into the pouch where it then latches onto a spare nipple until it grows big enough to actually start looking like a proper roo.

A mother roo can therefore have three joeys on the go at any one time which is natures way of ensuring that during the ‘boom’ periods there are enough roos being born to ensure not all of them die off during the next ‘bust’.

And that was how roos lived for thousands of years prior to white settlement.

What happened then is that settlers worked out that they could make dams on their properties and secure all year water supplies. The roos then went from a boom/bust, birth big/die big cycle to boom/boom and as a result now we have to cull the randy little baby factories.

For better or worse post 1788 Australians have changed the Australian landscape. Roos are one prime example but another is the River Redgum. These are large gum trees that grow along the Murray-Darling and like to drop branches on unsuspecting campers. They are so iconic that everyone assumes they have ALWAYS been here and are vital to the river system ecologies.

Except the journals of the early explorers hardly mention them, instead talking up the massive areas of grass land suitable for grazing. So in came the sheep farmers, the sheep ate the long grass and the Redgum seedlings, that previously used to get lost in the darkness of the long grass, could now grow into trees at a much higher success rate.

Isn’t European Settlement wonderful? 😛

Another Ian

In our area aboriginals on walk-about patrolled the creeks and pulled what they considered excess red gum suckers.

We also have the results of modern day thinning of these trees that has revived the springs of previous times and created year round fishing again.

But “unseen” as it doesn’t suit the current agenda

ozspeaksup

any sapling over 50mm (roughly 2.5inches)round has to be permitted for removal in wimmera
a local waterhole now has so many saplings coming up you cant walk between them to access water
gunna be great when the lakes dry n a fire rips through

Hubby is visiting our meteorologist son, who is stationed at the solar observatory at Learmonth. Luckily, they’d just left Perth day before yesterday to head north when the Perth temp hit -4C. Nobody’d packed the extra sweaters for THAT.

Jack Lacton

I live in Canberra. My girlfriend and I left her place to go out for dinner last Saturday night. As I turned the car in the street we saw a couple of kangaroos in the carpark in the school opposite us. As I drove up the road it was bouncing up the footpath next to us so I accelerated to get away from it, as I had to turn left and I didn’t want the thing keeping on going straight given they have very little street sense. I made the turn and had traveled about a mile when a small roo appeared from my right, jumped in front of the car and I hit it, bowling him over and into oncoming traffic on the other side of the road, which also meant it got a small knock. It managed to get up, stunned, and plonk itself in the middle of the road. My girlfriend got out and managed to shoo it away. When I got to the restaurant, I checked for damage and discovered the front of my car was quite knocked around with lights pointing the wrong way and distance sensors etc inoperable. On the way back from dinner we discovered a dead roo at around the spot we’d hit it and presume it was the same one that had jumped back into the traffic. They’re a serious menace early in the morning or at dusk anywhere near nature reserves in Canberra.

Woz

Jack is right. A few years ago ~2005 or so when the debate about culling was just getting under way, I drove to the airport one morning about 7.00 am and counted 17 dead roos along the way. since they were cleared daily, fair to say that most had been killed by traffic overnight.

RyanS

No it’s the cold, just ask Eric. Its turning them into zombiroos.

MarkW

Do you have a point, or are you just upset that Eric gets more attention than you do?

Gary Ashe

We have wild wallaby here they get knocked over as well, they mainly stay in one area, of swamp and tall shrubbery and swanp tree.

Thats in britain by the way,……. theres several hundred in the wild colony they can shot as vermin.

This one was going around today:
Q: What did socialists use before candles?
A: Electricity.

DW Rice

According to Roy Spencer of UAH, Australia just had its warmest July since the satellite temperature record began in 1979. It was 1.37 C warmer than the 1981-2010 average for the month. Hopefully this helped the ‘freezing kangaroos’.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2018/08/uah-global-temperature-update-for-july-2018-0-32-deg-c/

KenB

DW, Australia is roughly the size of continental USA, often when we have wetter than average (flooding) there will still be small areas that are in drought and the same in the big roughly 60 year cycle of drought years, when most is in drought, some small areas will show as wetter than usual, and of course, Canberra our Capital Territory is notoriously cold, but all the well fed, well housed public “servants” ?? have heating and cooling and abundant salaries while they are working assiduously on making Diesel cars and trucks unaffordable due to Paris trickery we signed (heaven help us!) and Europe declaring Diesels “dirty” but don’t worry as those PS’s get to drive Government fuelled cars while the rest of us pay through the nose for ever higher fuel and heating/cooling costs. Pensioners and self funded retirees, are just a budget nuisance to them…we can vote out the politicians but the PS troughers remain playing their games in Cold Canberra. Also I would point out we have a lot of hot desert in Australia, and like the Death Valley high temperatures in the USA, the warmers use those areas to average higher temperatures on the East Coast… Just a game these days..

RyanS

“the warmers use those areas to average higher temperatures on the East Coast…”

BS.

MarkW

Right is wrong, up is down. It’s all the same when you are on a mission from God.

RyanS

Are you a troll or a troll cop? Or are they the same thing? I can’t tell

Dan Evans

There hasn’t been much cloud cover, which causes cold night time temperatures. The drought in Australia is very widespread, and seems to be mirrored by below average rainfall in many parts of the world… Possibly related to current solar minimum? IDK, but seems likely. CO² has nothing to do with it

Wouldn’t it be nice if climate models had predictive power and could predict large seasonal rainfall deficits, floods etc…?

DW Rice

“Possibly related to current solar minimum?”
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Svensmark’s theory is that a weak sun should lead to ‘increased’ global cloud cover and hence rainfall. He contends that the reduction in the intensity of the solar wind that accompanies solar minimums should permit the accumulation of cloud-forming cosmic rays in the atmosphere.

RyanS

IDK, but whatever the cause, “CO² has nothing to do with it”. IDoK that because I read it somewhere, on the internet, I think.

MarkW

Do you have any evidence that CO2 does anything to the climate?

RyanS

Wow, you’ve just gone through and replied to every comment I made in a creepy, whiney, trolly sort of way.
What? Does that mean its troll feeding time?

rubberduck

Kangaroos breed when there’s water available. Because there are now dams everywhere, kangaroos are out-breeding the amount of feed available. Hence the need for regular culling. There are professional hunters in the outback with mobile abattoirs to process the meat. Russia used to be a big market, but that’s collapsed because of sanctions and import bans. As other commenters have pointed out, the meat is similar to venison – a bit dry and gamey, so suitable for recipes with added fat, like bacon or cream.

Another Ian

Queensland Kangaroo Situation 2016 – Agistment for running kangaroos was around $A 340,000,000 per year

Sheep Equivalents (1.5K = 1S)

Kangaroo Population * 26 ,162 ,000 (Sheep Equivalent 17 ,441 ,333****)

Human Population – Total 4 ,824 ,400

Rural Population ** 516 ,694

Urban Population 4 ,307 ,307

Kangaroos per Urban Person 6.1 (So if each urbanite is not feeding those)

Agistment/K/person/Yr *** $70.20

Total Qld K Agistment/Yr $340,106,000.00

Share of Agistment Owed to Rural Population ***** $303,680,647.00

Qld Sheep Population 1 ,800 ,000

* http://www.qld.gov.au/environment/assets/documents/plants-animals/macropods/quota-submission2016.pdf

** Rural population of Australia (2014) 10.71% = 516 ,694 for Qld

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/rural-population-percent-of-total-population-wb-data.html

*** Agistment Calculation $3/head/week for dry cattle, 8 sheep = 1 beast, 1.5 kangaroos = I sheep

$3.00 *1/8 (sheep:cattle ratio))*(1/1.5 kangaroo:sheep ratio)*52 (weeks/year) = $13/kangaroo/year

Total kangaroo agistment cost = $340,106,000.00

**** http://www.livestocklibrary.com.au/handle/1234/4936

***** Method of payment:- due to very poor internet service available to most rural producers, communication as to most appropriate method of payment will have to be by telephone or the very poor Australia Post mail service.

ozspeaksup

WELL DONE!!!! thread winning effort;-)

Mike Borgelt

Having mobs of kangaroos move in to Canberra should significantly increase the IQ of the city’s population.

Michael Darby

Global Warming Cultist Prof Tim Flannery was declared “Australian of the Year” in 2007 as a reward for telling Australians that they should expect permanent drought as the result of global warming. As a result his reckless acolytes deliberately retained an excessively high level of water in the Wivenhoe Dam, cancelling its value in flood mitigation. That foolishness exacerbated the floods which began in November 2010 and cost 36 lives and at least a billion dollars in property damage. Not a word of repentance from Flannery.
The ABC has now trotted out a fellow named Prof Seth Westra who tells us that heavy rain is caused by climate change. When will these clowns get their story straight?

RyanS

I watched it unfold on radar and to chararacterise it as Flannery’s fault is a despicable slur and absolute bollocks. Zero shame.

MarkW

Do you read for understanding, or just to find something to whine about?
What was Flannery’s fault had to do with retaining too much water behind the dam. Nobody ever claimed that the rain was his fault.

Patrick MJD

It is his fault that we now have little used de-sal plants in Australia that were built on his advice that it would never rain again. The Wivenhoe dam was built after the much worse flooding of 1974, which struck mainly industrial land. It was built specifically for flood mitigation. But Flannery stated, repeatedly, that it would never rain again, but it did, in a cycle not unusual for Queensland. Because Flannery stated it would never rain again, when the rains came, there was way too much water already stored in the system with nowhere to go but downstream to the flood plain. This time, unlike 1974, much of that industrial land had been converted to urban dwellings and got consumed.

Ever wonder why a “Queenslander” is a house on stilts in Queensland? That isn’t bollocks at all!

DC Cowboy

*Fully expects the NYT to publish an article claiming that computer models have been validated because … climate refugees*

Khwarizmi

Dan Evans reckons “This current drought in Australia is one of the worst in living memory.”

A few months with low rainfall is called a “dry spell” in Australian parlance. The worst Australian drought in living memory (unless you were born yesterday) was the decade long permanent drought caused by global warming:
https://www.theage.com.au/environment/no-more-drought-its-a-permanent-dry-20070907-ge5rqp.html

It ended abruptly with floods – caused by global warming:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-australia-floods-idUSTRE70B1XF20110112

Before the global warming cult was established to make the climate system orbit around the sins of humanity, Australians used to celebrate a “sunburnt country” with “droughts and flooding ranges.”

south-east Australian dam levels:
Canberra ~ 75%
Sydney ~ 67 %
Melbourne ~ 60% (that’s roughly 6 years of supply during drought conditions)

Gary Ashe

”Well tie yer kangaroos down sports”

John in Oz

“A few roos in hjs/her/any other personal pronoun top paddock” is an old Aussie saying meaning ‘crazy’.

Perhaps a few of these eacaped from the many ACT greens

cinaed

So one starving kangaroo laying on the grass – which coincidentally just happen to have a full belly of grass – since it evidently didn’t even try to eat the grass – and no steam coming out of its mouth after its trek – not even close to ice age – in one stadium is the evidence of what – other than one animal in the one stadium during a match on a balmy afternoon?

I guess when one animal runs into a stadium it’s international news.

Not even a link to the temperature record?

Just a sound bite by ?

And who listens to CNN?

Poor kangaroos…instead of blaming global warming I hope they will come up with more solutions to prevent this from happening again..

gingerbeer

The roos are definitely on the move. Drove to Thredbo and back earlier this week and the highway south of Canberra was a killing field. Two or three road kill per 100m for km after km.

I’ve certainly never seen it so bad.

What a load of rubbish Eric. Australia is experiencing autumnal temperatures when it should be winter. There is a severe drought in Eastern Australia. Let’s focus on the serious over the trivial issues …
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-45043299

tango

latest Australian snow report 6/8/2018 http://www.weatherzone.com.au/weatherpulse/player/Weatherpulse-Snow-inbound/5817406772001 and they said our kids will never see snow again