Climate Shakedown: Iran Demands Their Share of Paris Agreement Climate Cash

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Iran’s deputy environment chief Karim Shafie has warned that Iran’s participation in the Paris Agreement is at risk if they don’t get their climate money.

Is Iran pulling out of Paris Agreement?

By Maryam Qarehgozlou

May 20, 2018

Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif signed the Paris Agreement on climate change during a ceremony at the United Nations headquarters in New York, April 22, 2016.

“However, the agreement was brought before the Guardian Council, but the council did not approve it and proposed amendments, so the deal is now being hammered out in agriculture, water and natural resources group of the Majlis,” ISNA quoted Karim Shafie, deputy environment chief for legal affairs, as saying on Saturday.

As Shafie said, Iran has submitted Intended Nationally Determined Contributions (INDCs) to the UNFCCC committing to cut the greenhouse gas emissions by 4% percent in 2030. However, subject to termination and non-existence of unfair and brutal sanctions, availability of international resources in the form of financial support and technology transfer, exchange of carbon credits, accessibility of bilateral or multilateral implementation mechanisms, transfer of clean technologies as well as capacity building, Iran has the potential of mitigating greenhouse gas emission up to 12%.

“By ratifying the Paris agreement, Iran should make commitments which might put the country into significant expenses,” the deputy environment chief said.

There are proponents and opponents of the agreement in Iran, he said, adding, those who are opposing the deal believe that ratifying the deal would carry considerable costs, and the costs should be funded by developed countries or international entities.

On the other hand those who are advocating the deal believe that the deal would help Iran to mitigate environmental pollutants and that “we” can mitigate greenhouse gas emission in sectors which may not carry high costs.

He further suggested that there are some concerns the deal may “act against our national interest” and that’s why “we should proceed with extreme caution”.

“We should be wary of not being forced to make and legally binding commitments which may later result in more sanctions and penalties for us,” he warned.

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Personally I believe Iran’s ongoing high level support for global terrorism, and the exposure of Iran’s brazen lies about their clandestine nuclear weapons programme are higher priority geopolitical issues than any CO2 emissions cuts the Iranian government was offering. But maybe thats just me.


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Iran’s deputy environment chief Karim Shafie has warned that Iran’s participation in the Paris Agreement is at risk if they don’t get their climate money.

In tge immortal words of Deep Thought (HHGTTG),

And whom would that inconvenience?



and the exposure of Iran’s brazen lies about their clandestine nuclear weapons programme are ….

Oh right, Bibi’s dodgy dossier. Of course that is not brazen lies. I mean, it’s not like Nathanyahou or Mossad would ever mislead anyone is it?
However, you are correct. Those trying to foment more war and conflict in the M.E. is a much bigger issue than fake AGW agenda.


“Nathanyahou or Mossad would ever mislead anyone”
How many times have they mislead the people about dangers?

Curious George

They need money urgently to spend on a rocket program and a nuclear program. Those things don’t come cheap.

Chris Hoff

Obama gave them 150 Billion in real cash on a planeload, there are protests going on in Iran the MSM isn’t reporting on that may very well topple the regime. With the new sanctions they are at a tipping point.


And since Obarmy was not allowed to give Iran dollars (some law or other) he arranged for aircraft to shuttle between Switzerland and Iran, carrying palet-loads of European cash. And the Swiss said thank you (or kerrrchinggg)….!!
The trouble with Obarmy is that he backed the Muslim Brotherhood on every occasion – in the name of ‘democracy’ – in Libya, Tunisia, Egypt and Syrya. But this is not what the people wanted. The intelligentsia knew that their semi-secular military dictatorships were far more preferable than the proposed administrations of the Muslim Brotherhood.
But when the people protested about Obarmy, the biased western media would not carry the story. They were all ‘on message’, that the Arab Spring was all about democracy, when Obarmy knew all along that it was really about empowering the Muslim Brotherhood.


Obama “only” gave the Mad Mullahs about $1.5 billion in cash. The $150 billion was money that had been frozen in U.S. banks for many years and Obama released this money to them upon them signing the nuke agreement.
As such, Obama became the biggest enabler of radical Islamic terrorism in world history.
I’m surprised Obama didn’t give the Mad Mullahs their Climate Cash up front instead of making them wait.

TA you are full of bovine excrement. Obama did not “give the Mad Mullahs about $1.5 billion in cash.”

Congress did not appropriate these funds, and Obama did not have the authority to “give” anyone that amount of money. If you disagree with me, please post the Congressional bill that appropriated these funds. Thank you in advance.


Obama certainly approved, ordered, organised, and gave the $1.5 billion in cash to Iran. The more important question is: under what authority did he do so? Were his actions legal, or illegal?

Obama did not “give” $1.5 billion in cash.

Total myth.

Obama did not “give” $1.5 billion in cash.

Total myth.

This is true, for certain varieties of “true”. Obola gave Iran 1.5 billion in cash, gold, and coin – neatly stacked on pallets – from the money previously confiscated by the US government in return for their signature on a piece of paper. Thus Obola gave Iran 1.5 billion in unmarked bills from the US government, since that money was taken BECAUSE Iran was using it for drugs, money-laundering, and terrorism.


Yeah, I was a little surprised to learn that Obama had $1.5 billion in cash laying around his Office.
C. Paul, you are correct that Congress did not appropriate that $1.5 billion, but you are incorrect in saying Obama didn’t give it to the Mad Mullahs. You raise a good question though: What gave Obama the authority to do such a thing without the permission of Congress?

TA, Obama did not GIVE $1.5 billion to Iran.

TA, ralfellis, RACookPE1978 can explain it: ” from the money previously confiscated by the US government ”

Thank you for clearing things up RACook


Startpage (Google) is your friend, C. Paul:
“The controversial $400 million payment that the U.S. sent to Iran in January, just as four American hostages were released—a planeload of Euros, Swiss Francs and other currencies—was only the first of three American cash deliveries to the country, the Obama administration reportedly told lawmakers on Tuesday.
During the 19 days following the first shipment, the U.S. sent two more planeloads of cash, totaling $1.3 billion, to Tehran, reports The Wall Street Journal. The two planeloads, which passed through Europe on Jan. 22 and Feb. 5, followed the same route as the earlier payment, a congressional aide who was briefed told the Journal. In the first payment, an Iranian cargo plane picked up the money in Geneva.”
Obama paid the Mad Mullahs $400 million in cash and then within a few more days he paid them $1.3 billion more in cash.
Who is full of BS now?

All Obama did was return to Iran what belonged to Iran in the first place.

No BS Mr. TA, There is a difference between “giving” money, and paying one’s bills.

PS TA et. al……..
When by sanctions, you are prohibited from using international facilities such as SWIFT, the only way you can complete a monetary transaction is by the actual exchange of negotiables (currency).


Obama, the anti-American extremist, gave away not only over $1.2 billion in cash, he allowed the Iranians to refloat their econiny and rearm their puppet armies and terror groups.
We confiscated Iranian assets after the Iranian thugocracy illegally took American diplomats hostage.
Obama gave them back the money with basically no enforceable commitments or even prospects for improvements in any aspect of Iranian behavior.
Obama was the worst most anti-American pretentious worthless corrupt twit we have ever had in the Presidency. And that includes comparing him to the current occupant .

hunter says: “We confiscated Iranian assets after the Iranian thugocracy illegally took American diplomats hostage.”
The hostages were released when Reagan took office. Why did Iran have to wait until Obama took office to have their assets returned?


Seems to me, if an account that has been frozen is released, the rightful owner of the count is now free to write a check. And the terribly awful devil’s pact 0bummer made then removed all sanctions, so the Mad Mullahs had access to all the world’s currencies. So if that was a true fact 0bummer spun from whole cloth there would have been no need to fly pallets of cash, currencies, gold and other easily negotiable instruments to anywhere. Something smells fishy about the whole story. So, C. Paul Pierett on May 21, 2018 at 3:39 pm and again at 4:05 pm, it’s on you now, the plane loads of cash have been verified, and 0bummer can’t deny that cash was sent at his direction, you tell us where he got it. Cuz I call B.S. on the “unfrozen accounts” B.S.

If it were “frozen accounts” of cash and gold and silver, then all of the money would have dated from the mid-70’s, and all of the coins and gold would be pre-1980, would they not?

Who is “0bummer” ?

Is that a typo?

“then all of the money would have dated from the mid-70’s,”

Please, oh please, keep your day time job, and don’t even think of entering the world of finance.


The anti-Trump people want Trump to be comparable or close to Hitler, but historical reality is that the Muslim Brotherhood was the ally of Hitler.
Which US President enabled the Muslim Brotherhood more than Obama?


The trouble with Obama GIVING Iran some $1.4 billion in cash, is that it has gone towards the financing of 500,000 rockets for Hezbollah, who now has them pointed at lsrael. So the entire region is bocomming destabilised, because Obama wanted to GIVE his MusIim friends a ‘leaving office’ present. (And we know that Obama hated lsraeI.) This must really be the the most dangerous act by any US president, ever.

Um …
The CIA has publicly admitted it was behind the notorious 1953 coup against Iran’s democratically elected prime minister Mohammad Mosaddeq.

Well said Max.

Come on Max, be reasonable. It seems that parts of the US administration are currently trying to bring down the US govt so there is even handedness there 🙂



Max, you are not fair about USA being in a global fight with Communism, Russia didn’t give back conquered Eastern Europe, rigged elections and China & Russia in North Korea. Cuba through out South America, Grenada and the Congo and the 200 Million dead…
WWI begot WWII, it didn’t help that victors carving up the territory at their will…USA was better than most in the card dealing then…

Fen Tiger

Presumably you are complaining about the OP’s last paragraph, but I can’t see how the fall of Mossadegh is relevant.
Of course you are free to disapprove of the USA behaving as imperial powers (inevitably) do: but this does not excuse the Ayatollahs for their actions. As you say, one rule for all.
BTW, I was under the impression that the regime change in Chile was home-grown – a surprise to the USA.


The USA didn’t cause the 2014 revolution in Ukraine. That’s RuSSian propaganda … which makes me wonder …

richard verney

The US did not act alone. Europe was also a major player so too Soros.


Well MarkP, whose propaganda are you basing your opinion on?

Reginald Vernon Reynolds

My wife lived in Chile at the time and it was a popular uprising. The women were banging pots and pans out the windows because there wasn’t enough food. Thanks to the change Chile is now the most prosperous country in South America.

Craig M Carmichael

Blame Trump, and the Russians.


Gotta blame G W Bush, as Obama constantly did.


Mossadeq nationalized the AIOC, Anglo Iran Oil Co, to the NIOC. Britain was not amused, and the Dulles Bros. did the dirty work… Bit like Brennan, Comey , Clapper … today….

Gene Walker

Maybe the CIA makes amends by providing landscaping services. Delivering Paris climate reparations by air mail in the form of several hundred 2,000 lb smart bombs, a couple or three MOABs as well should do the trick renewing the landscape around their nuclear enrichment plants and missile silos.

Jeff Alberts

It’s really too bad Ed has retired.


Speaking of double standards.
First off, you list every instance where some nutcase claimed that the US was involved, yet you ignore every case where the US wasn’t involved.
I understand, in your world, where ever it is, the US is the source of all evil and everyone else is an angel.




That coup prevented Stalin from gaining access to the Persian Gulf and control of the world’s oil.
It saved millions of Persian and Arab lives.
It was effective and worth it.


Besides which Mossadegh wasn’t democratically elected. He stopped the election after results came in from the urban districts in which he was popular, but before the rural districts which would have overwhelmingly rejected him arrived.
The USSR only left northern Iran after WWII because Truman threatened to nuke the Red Army if Stalin didn’t withdraw, as the Brits had done from southern Iran. The Allies occupied Iran in 1941 because of the Shah’s pro-German stance.
Stalin however died in March 1953. Mossadegh wasn’t ousted until August.


That was 65 years and another revolution ago. What does that have to do with anything in today’s world?

Tom Halla

And Snookums wants a bigger bribe? Poor baby!


What a joke. The chickens are coming home to roost. All these “receiver” nations. …. 95%+ of the “accord” signers …. want their pay for being part of this ruse. The only ones that are paying are those that the guilt has been permanently embedded and even then not enough to satisfy all. Consparicy theory my ass.

Alan Robertson

The headline… one look and started laughing.

I am not sure that I have seen a list of the amounts that each of the recipients expects to get.
It would be interesting to see the cold hard figures in actual numbers, set against specific countries, rather than vague percentages.

Ha Ha Ha Ha, lol lol lol lol. And everyone wonders why Trump pulled out of the Paris agreement. We would foot the bill for most of it, because we are a highly devolved county because of cheap energy, fossil fuels, industry, growth, etc. It was just a smart move…


“Trump pulled out ….”
hahaha, you seem to rely too much on wailing liberal MSM. You seem to have failed to notice that Trump did not pull out of Paris, he just said he intended to.
That was a year ago and we have not heard anything since. Nothing written , nothing signed, All we have are a few tweets saying he “intends to” unless he can get a better deal.

Timo Soren

Get Cruise;: I am going to get money.
Cuba: SHow me the money!

Warren Dennis

“Personally I believe Iran’s ongoing high level support for global terrorism, and the exposure of Iran’s brazen lies about their clandestine nuclear weapons programme are higher priority geopolitical issues than any CO2 emissions cuts the Iranian government was offering. But maybe thats just me.”
This is not needed, innuendo, propaganda on both those links, despite numerous inspections/visits, reports that cannot find any nuclear programmes or facilities other than the known sites.

Chomsky labels the USA as the world’s greatest most active terrorist state. My how awkward.
If the Iranians we’re promised cash for signing, then a deal is a deal. Just ask POTUS Trump the self acclaimed deal king.


Iran can go pound sand.


Chomsky is an educated idiot, IMHO.
The USA is not a terrorist state. It’s a world police using corrupting power to enhance whatever belongs to pax americana.
The most terrorist aspect is that it has never admitted human rights to people it finds its greatest enemies. That’s why parties like Wikileaks are in trouble. The Dims don’t like Assange. Nor the Reps. And it appears Sweden or the UK could be forced … and try to tell me the CIA is not planning to deep state murder him.
But Putin is worse. His regime uses poisons to kill people abroad, and do it even in an ironic way to make sure people know who it was.

Richard Patton

One man’s signature (Obama) does not commit the United States to anything. Treaties must be submitted to the Senate and be ratified by 2/3s before they are binding.

Chomsky? For goodness sake. Chomsky, the non intellectual’s intellectual ? Chomsky demonstrating again that although a master of words he is incapable of their use in anything approaching coherence.

You cannot make a deal with men for whom the concept is impossible.


I beg to differ — It is not the USA that is the “greatest most active terrorist state.” It is that strange little parasitoid foreign country that’s called The District of Columbia to whom that description fits to a “t”. The role of the Citizens of the USA is to provide the money in the form of taxes to provide for the support of the actions of the criminal enterprise in The District of Columbia. Then there’s the US Federal Reserve system without which the rest of the criminal enterprise would be almost flat broke.


Chomsky still denies that the Cambodian Killing Fields ever exists.
Citing Chomsky for anything just indicates that you are highly biased and not a deep thinker.


To the left, opposing communism is terrorism.

Samuel C Cogar

Hugs – May 20, 2018 at 10:57 pm

But Putin is worse. His regime uses poisons to kill people abroad, and do it even in an ironic way to make sure people know who it was.

Well “SURPRISE, SURPRISE”. ……. the US regime (CIA, FBI, ??? ) has “needled” (Casey) or shot several American citizens, …… aided in the deposing the Shah …… tried to poison Castro, etc., etc.
Foreign Leaders that don’t/won’t “pay” and “play” by US “political rules” have to watch their backs at all times.

Pat Frank

I’ve investigated Chomsky’s work at the libraries of Stanford University. Specifically I checked how Chomsky treats his citations and references.
What I found is that Chomsky lies systematically. He misrepresents meanings, he truncates quotes, he juxtaposes unrelated quotes to alter intended meaning, and so forth.
All of them are to the same purpose: to assassinate character, and to make his targets look callous, hardhearted, and racist.
Chomsky is a professional linguist. It’s impossible that the misrepresentations in his books are mistakes or accidental.
I found he only tells the truth about people when that truth serves to blacken the US.
I’ve published a couple of examples here.
If you want a more comprehensive rendition of Chomskyan lies, check out Paul Bogdanor’s list.


Sure – as long as the money doesn’t come from the US. The US didn’t sign on to the Paris climate agreement. Obama was careful to keep the US out of it. Only the Executive branch backed it, but that is insufficient per US law to commit the US.
So, let those countries who signed onto it legally according to the laws of their countries pay the Iranians.


Pat Frank
Very interesting thanks, always good to see a balanced view.
Deep Thinker – same old MarkW, attack the person.
Don’t be knocking the Federal Reserve too hard, as a result of Trumps tax cuts I understand that the US budget deficit next year will top one trillion dollars and is forecast to increase.

Don’t be knocking the Federal Reserve too hard, as a result of Trumps tax cuts I understand that the US budget deficit next year will top one trillion dollars and is forecast to increase.

Odd. April set a record for receipts into the federal tax collection system. And March was very high as well. Your “forecast” for that deficit estimate (as a result of the Trump tax cuts) was deliberate malfeasance by the democrats within the CBO.

@RACookPE1978, you need to learn the difference between “receipts” and “deficit”


Chomsky is a worthless bigoted hater.
Asking Chomsky’s opinion on America is like asking a KKK member his opinion of African Americans.

I’m not aware of Iran supporting international terrorism in recent years. They are Shiites, that group doesn’t seem to have the terrorist tendencies we see in Sunnis (Saudis, Taliban, Iraqi Isis, Syria Isis, Al Qaida, the terrorists in Europe, and Boko Haram are all Sunnis)

Tom Halla

As if Hamas, Hezbollah, the various Iraqi militias, and the Houthi’s are not terrorists? They just mostly currently perform their actions inside their own countries.


Not to mention the Iranian terrorists in Iraq whose advanced IEDs killed so many Americans there.


You need to get out more, my friend.
How are you doing?


Sort of like Obama’s quite illegal transfer of 3 x $500 million in cash to Iran via Switzerland right after the nuclear deal?
The exact kind of thing that should get a President Impeached and Removed for?


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“The exact kind of thing that should get a President Impeached and Removed for?”
Only if they’re a Republican. Democrats just flash their Get Out Of Jail Free card.

J Mac



The ayatollahs have squandered all their Obamabucks on wars in Syria and Yemen, so now need to shake down the West for more baksheesh.


Well Israel would know all about lying about nuclear weapons along with kidnaping people who
reveal details about them. Anyway I am still waiting for all of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction
to turn up before I believe in any similar claims.


Are you an anti-semite? Israel definitely is capable of nuking Iran to bits, but it hasn’t done it. Because Israel is a Western democracy. Iran, on the other hand, has been in the hands of anti semite islamists who most certainly plan to nuke Israel once and for all.


Hugs – there is nothing in international law that says only people we like can have nuclear
weapons. Israel is definitely in violation of the anti-profileration treaty and should be treated
as such. Otherwise the only example that gets set is that North Korea gets rewarded with a
meeting with Trump for having nuclear weapons while Iraq which had no nuclear weapons
gets invaded. Looking at that which option do you think any rational actor will take?


It isn’t anti-semitic to criticize Israel. Despite its pretenses and lack of clearly defined borders, Israel does not represent all Jews, nor is it considered a deity “covenanted” homeland by all Jews.
e.g. #1: Neturei Karta
eg #2:
Iran’s Jews on life inside Israel’s ‘enemy state’: ‘We feel secure and happy’
Despite its often turbulent dealings with Israel, Iran has one of the world’s largest and longest-established Jewish communities – and it’s growing.
e.g #3 – Birobidzhan – Stalin’s Jewish Autonomous Region:


It is anti-semitic to criticize Israel while ignoring worse behavior in others.

Crispin in Waterloo

“Hugs – there is nothing in international law that says only people we like can have nuclear
Um…yes there is, actually. The Non-Proliferation Treaty says just that. It is unfortunate that mankind will have to suffer at least one mass use of such weapons before we will pull together and agree that not even people we like can have them. To that end, we will witness the masses reject the war hawks once and for all. It is the clerics, not the people in Iran who want to eliminate this or that person or group (like their own largest religious minority).
Hugs: Arabs are Semites too. Is the Iranian regime against Semites? Probably. I have asked around. They want Mecca back under Shiite control. The rest is noise. The climate money would help free up resources for the other agendas.

Why would Iran want to nuke Israel when Israel has nuclear weapons and can “nuke it to bits”?

Khwarizmi May 21, 2018 at 5:22 am
Iran’s Jews on life inside Israel’s ‘enemy state’: ‘We feel secure and happy’
The Jewish population in Iran has fallen from over 150,000 to less than 9,000 in the last few decades. The few that are stupid enough to not have left live there under extreme duress, will say anything the government wants them to say, they’re just pawns. To represent them as secure and happy is ridiculous, to use them as some sort of evidence that Jews in general are not supportive of Israel is puerile politics on your part.
It is not anti-Semitic to criticize Israel. That’s now what you do in this forum. You constantly and continuously twist the facts to support your clear and obvious hatred of Jews. You bring a lot to the debate when you focus on climate science. If you can’t do that, just go away.

sigh. That’s NOT what you do in this forum…

Joel Snider

‘It is anti-semitic to criticize Israel while ignoring worse behavior in others.’
It’s also a common practice of actual anti-Semites.

Israel has to survive and nuclear weapons might ensure that. Iran in possession of such power increases the likelihood of their use.

Jacob Frank

The old your an anti semite canard, lol


Hey *SNIP* “Germ-whatever-you-call-yourself” today,
Read this and then just. *SNIP :.
Civil Discourse, please. Abbreviations and misspellings are still not allowed. Thanks, Mod


Hi Joel,
everything mentioned in that article refers to weapons discarded before 1991 and declared as such.
Nothing supports the lie that Iraq had an active chemical weapons program in 2003. Nobody ever disputed that Iraq had a chemical weapons program (funded in part by the USA) in the past. The huge lie that caused hundreds of thousands of deaths was that there was an active program in 2003. Bush, Blair and assorted others lied and thousands of people died as a result.


The Skripal caper failed, and right on cue Bibi goes Powerpoint. With approx 4 corruption cases on his heels, a jolly little war, British style. might be the only way to escape the posse. Problem is despite Bolton, Russia, China, Trump are not is such a jolly humor.


Germy, you are the one lying here. The CIA and British intelligence both had intelligence indicating that Iraq had active programs in developing biological and nuclear weapons, and stores of chemical weapons. Even a Bush critic in the CIA found that Saddam was trying to acquire uranium from Niger. Iraq also had a history of actually using chemical weapons under the same regime. The fact that they had not completed those developments does not invalidate the concern.
Bush and Blair were not lying, they were stating what they believed to be true. In particular, Bush was basing his statement on the surety (“slam dunk”) expounded by Clinton-appointed CIA director George Tenet. In any case, there were many valid reasons to militarily depose Saddam Hussein. Concern about WMDs was just one part of that.


Mothballed and undeclared weapons AND programs were found.


French leader told they didn’t believed what Bush and Blair were stating. And they were proven right. So the option are
* French had better intelligence. I say LOL.
* Bush and Blair knew just as much as french, that is, alleged WMD didn’t exist,
Irak had be a problem for years before 9/11, but before then, when asked if we should worry about Saddam WMD, US officials answered “no, everything is under control. We destroyed everything in the first war, and have people checking it stays so”. And then, after 9/11, a scapegoat was needed.
Now you may argue that ousting Saddam was the thing to do anyway, This is another matter. I am pretty sure Powell was in favor of the ousting, but that didn’t made him comfortable about the WMD lie for that, when he talked before the UN.

Crispin in Waterloo

“Even a Bush critic in the CIA found that Saddam was trying to acquire uranium from Niger.”
That was one of the original Fake News stories of the 21st Century. With respect to Iraq, I trusted David Kelly more than anyone else because of his personal integrity and he said there was nothing there – a statement he repeated emphatically, and he was proven correct.
We do not yet have such confirmation from Iran. We did have declarations and inspections where everything was supposedly revealed, then it turned out they had another secret facility with the programme carrying on. Quelle surprise. Trust should be earned, not given freely once distrust has been demonstrated.


“Bush and Blair were not lying, they were stating what they believed to be true.”
I believe that is correct. In fact, just about *every* intelligence service in the world thought Saddam had active WMD programs. Fed partly by the fact that Saddam promoted this idea himself and wanted people to think he was well armed, as a possible deterrence. Saddam’s generals were questioned after the war and many of them thought that Saddam had an active WMD program because that’s what Saddam told them.
So blowing up a big conspir@cy to lie over Saddam’s WMD’s doesn’t fit the facts.

Pat Frank

Geronimo, most of Iraq’s chemical weapons were made using factories provided by Germany and France.
See the supplier graphic at the old Iraq Watch website.
Almost everything Saddam had came from Western Europe, with Brazil, India, Singapore, and China playing second string.
The parent Wisconsin Project still monitors WMD worldwide.

Tom in Florida

Let’s role the video tape:
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
– President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 |
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
– President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 |
“We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.”
– Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 |
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
– Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 |
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton.
– (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 |
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
– Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 |
“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
– Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 |
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
– Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 |
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 |
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 |
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 |
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
– Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 |
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 |
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
– Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 |
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 |


If a republican had blown up the Chinese Embassy…the media would have never let anyone forget it…
…Clinton blew up the Chinese embassy…and not one single person remembers

Clinton NATO blew up the Chinese embassy.

There, fixed it for you Latitude.


The CIA provided the intelligence on it….and Clinton approved it

Again, Clinton NATO approved it. You also left out MI6’s role.


I’m talking to a moron……


“President Bill Clinton later apologized for the bombing, stating it was accidental.[1] Central Intelligence Agency director George Tenet testified before a congressional committee that the bombing was the only one in the campaign organized and directed by his agency,[2] and that the CIA had identified the wrong coordinates for a Yugoslav military target on the same street”

Only a moron quotes Wikipedia.


roaring laughing!!!!!!…..but it’s the liberal go to

LOL @ Latitude, conservatives say the same thing about Wikipedia


Great post, Tom! It brings back old memories.
I remember that the U.S. Congress passed a law in 1998 which made it official policy of the U.S. to change the regime in Iraq, and President Bill Clinton signed it.
So the U.S. has been gunning for Saddam for a long time. Long before G.W. Bush came along.
Btw, Saddam had approximately 500 tons of yellowcake uranium stored in Iraq which was removed after the war.

Samuel C Cogar

Germonio – May 20, 2018 at 10:22 pm

Anyway I am still waiting for all of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to turn up before I believe in any similar claims.

HA, you would surely claim to be waiting on something else iffen those WMDs did “turn up”.
Germonio, …… iffen Saddam’s Iraq was not engaged in the “production of WMDs (weapons of mass destruction)”, …… then why in ell was the US giving Saddam everything he needed for manufacturing said WMDs? To wit:

Western help with Iraq’s WMD program
The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war over $500 million worth of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq’s nuclear program.[21] The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples of anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism to Iraq up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. A number of these materials were used for Iraq’s biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development.[22] For example, the Iraqi military settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive anthrax strain for use as a biological weapon, according to Charles Duelfer.[23]
In the late 1980s, the British government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill permission to supply parts for Saddam Hussein’s weapons program, while British Industry supplied Gerald Bull as he developed the Iraqi supergun. In March 1990, a case of nuclear triggers bound for Iraq were seized at Heathrow Airport. The Scott Report uncovered much of the secrecy that had surrounded the Arms-to-Iraq affair when it became known.[24] The British government also financed a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas.[25]

Ell yes, both Democrats and Republicans in Congress knew Saddam was producing WMDs and that’s why they VOTED to give POTUS Bush authority to launch an invasion into Iraq to depose Saddam..


Iran should be happy with the cash the previous President donated.


Really, does anyone really think they’d honor the agreement? They’d take the cash and do what they please.


Iran has a point . Why would they further undermine their economy by adhering to the none enforceable Paris Pledge . Just like the Iran Nuke agreement only without the airplane full of USA $ bank notes .
No Pay No Play . Very practical . Wonder how much of that cash got recycled to the Clinton Foundation .

Mark - Helsinki

lol Eric
“Personally I believe Iran’s ongoing high level support for global terrorism, and the exposure of Iran’s brazen lies about their clandestine nuclear weapons programme are higher priority geopolitical issues than any CO2 emissions cuts the Iranian government was offering. But maybe thats just me.”
The Breitbart article is bollocks and excuse me while I laugh when Britain France and the US are the biggest supporters of terrorism on the planet.
Muh Iran, look at fkn Syria Libya Iraq Afghanistan Somalia Sudan
Talk about biased bollocks

Mark - Helsinki

The US, admitted by Kerry, destroy countries for Saudi Arabia who pay the bill for it. Expending American lives for the primary terrorism supporting nation on the planet, so do Britain and France, for the Gulf States.
You are either willfully ignorant or utterly compromised.
Breitbart also parrot the Israeli governments patent falsehoods non stop, don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand the liberal media, but Breitbart, is just as bad and just as full of bollocks on these topics as the liberal media is on Trump and Mug climate

Tom in Florida

If you believe anything John Kerry says it is you who are either willfully ignorant or utterly compromised.


The documented lies that Kerry told about US involvement in Vietnam would fill a book.

Jacob Frank

+ 100,000,000,000 * 50


Your standard of proof is laughable.

Lee L

Musings on the UN and organizations in general ….
“A big pile of sh*t attracts a lot of flies”

Wallaby Geoff

I hope any money given to Iran though this IPCC scam doesn’t come from Australia. We already gave the Clinton foundation money without my agreement.

Jacob Frank

All wars are not for the concerns of the fighter,

charles nelson

Well seeing as how Iran is now trading its oil for Euros….


*IRI demand Climate Jizya*


Cannot blame them , it is after all just a shake down for many countries who intend to do nothing , so why would Iran , whose wealth comes form ‘evil fossile fuels’ try the sam trick .
The issue is ‘who’ is going to pick up the bill, well at the moment that is ‘no-one ‘

Steve O

The core of the accords has always been about the wealth transfers. In fact, the entire global warming scare is about justifying wealth transfers, something that even many of those directly involved seem to not understand. They think they’re working to save the world, when really they’re all just shills for a cashectomy on the developed world in favor of nations who are too corrupt or unstable to have functioning economies of their own.


Iran has a clandestine nuclear program? Clandestine? Really? Then how come it’s regularly photographed and plonked down on the internet news? Gee, how clandestine can you be?
Iran’s government just wants more cash. They don’t care how they get it. Including themselves in the so-called ‘Climate Agreement’ is one way to get it. Eruos are fake money and they know it. the U$D is only a small step ahead of China’s yuan. If Iran could, it would demand gold bullion but that’s off in the future when printed money becomes worthless. And they can’t sell nuke stuff to Norkiland any more, because the Norks are making nice with the South, because THEY can’t steal cash any more from national bank accounts, the way they did the Bank of Bangla Desh’s $81 billioin (two years ago) from its account at the US Federal Reserve Bank in NYC.
Frankly, Iran would be better off mining Bitcoin, although I still don’t understand how that works. (And NO, please don’t explain it to me.) As it is, iran’s government simply looks at the Paris Climate doodad as a way to get cash money to buy stuff for its nuclear program.
Clandestine? Please!!!! They have nuclear plants all over the cotton pickin’ place. You can see them on Google maps.


“wait just one minute here…….we voted to get paid”
If the democrats could do it, they would send another pallet of cash

If anything is capable of shaking the public out of their gullibility stupor this is likely it. Handing money over to the terror-supporting, population-oppressing theocratic Mullahs is supposed to be a benefit to the environment? Anyone buying that for more than a nanosecond or so is clinically brain-dead.


Eric, you need to include Josh’s cartoon asking about the money.


All the proxy armies for Iran need a lot of money.


This will certainly anger the cultural marxists & greenies.
Oh wait — never mind, the Iranians are just victims of the imperialist West…..


From the article: “However, subject to termination and non-existence of unfair and brutal sanctions, availability of international resources in the form of financial support and technology transfer”
Well, brutal sanctions are being reimposed on Iran by the United States, according to a speech Secretary of State Pompeo just gave. He said Iran’s economy will suffer greatly if the Mad Mullahs do not change their course and their efforts to acquire nuclear weapons and missiles to deliver them.
In the past we have seen where both North Korea and Iran have had economic sanctions imposed against them by U.S. presidents and one would think that there probably couldn’t be any more sanctions left to impose. But No! Apparently there were plenty of other things past presidents could have done to pressure North Korea and Iran, but it took President Trump to actually bring real pressure to bear, and now Trump has North Korea coming to the bargaining table.
The Mad Mullahs of Iran are getting ready to learn this Trump lesson.
I noted that Secretary Pompeo was prompting the Iranian people to question the quality of the leadership they have been getting from their elected leaders and from the Mad Mullahs. Just the thing he and Trump should be doing: Encouraging the Iranian people to overthrow their Masters.
There is a lot of dissatisfaction among the Iranian people. It wouldn’t take much. I encourage Secretary Pompeo to continue agitating. The Iranian people need to make Iran great again.


Well, brutal sanctions are being reimposed on Iran by the United States…
Well, Europe doesn’t want to comply.
And why should they? Who gave Uncle Sam the right to dictate how everyone else should live?
Anyway, there is a lot of dissatisfaction among the American people. “It wouldn’t take much.”
Almost two-thirds of Americans — 63% — believe that the US should not withdraw from the agreement made with Iran to prevent the country from developing nuclear weapons.

Samuel C Cogar

Khwarizmi – May 21, 2018 at 7:56 am

Almost two-thirds of Americans — 63% — believe that the US should not withdraw from the agreement made with Iran

Oh “WOW”, ….. only 63%, ….. why I’m utterly flabbergasted.
Mercy me, a CNN poll should have the “bleeding-heart” lefty liberals at 75% minimum.


What on earth gives Iran the right to demand monies from US taxpayers and to demand control of the foreign policy of a free nation such as the USA , especially when the nation, IRAN, has an appalling human rights reputation .
just one section from a recent report , on women’s rights, gives you the flavour of the place :
-“Women’s Rights
Iranian women face discrimination in personal status matters related to marriage, divorce, inheritance, and child custody. A woman needs her male guardian’s approval for marriage regardless of her age and cannot pass on her nationality to her foreign-born spouse or their children. Married women may not obtain a passport or travel outside the country without the written permission of their husbands.
The UN Children’s Rights Committee reported in March that the age of marriage for girls is 13, that sexual intercourse with girls as young as nine lunar years was not criminalized, and that judges had discretion to release some perpetrators of so-called honor killings without any punishment. Child marriage—though not the norm—continues, as the law allows girls to marry at 13 and boys at age 15, as well as at younger ages if authorized by a judge.
Authorities continue to prevent girls and women from attending certain sporting events, including men’s soccer and volleyball matches.
On July 31, 2016, President Rouhani suspended the hiring exam for public sector jobs to investigate apparent discrimination against women in the job market.”-
That such a nation, at will and by threats , can pick the pockets of taxpayers in other countries , countries that have long evolved to a more equitable society, is an appalling suggestion.


That’s a dubious poll.
Before the deal, about 60% of Americans didn’t want Congress to accept it. Other polls since the deal have found far less support than that found by CNN pollsters, with a large number of undecideds.

Tom in Florida

You are citing CNN? Best chuckle I have had today.


“And why should they? Who gave Uncle Sam the right to dictate how everyone else should live?”
Well, in this case it’s because Uncle Sam has twice as big an economy as anyone else in the world, and Trump has decided to wield this power to bring down the mad dictators of the world. If the EU elites don’t like it, that’s tough.


It’s actually a long list of signers making this demand for the Obama bribe money pot.


The reason why Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons, is becaise they are Eschatologists – they WANT the world to end.
Only after Iran’s army has been defeated, and there have been two loud booms in the heavens (interpreted nowadays as nucIear weapons), will the Mahdi, the 12th immam, come out of the well, where he has been hiding for the last 1,200 years. Only then will Shia Islam rule supreme over the whole world.
This may sound like the ravings of the mentally derranged, but all of this is standard Shia philosophy. And the way to bring all of this about is to send a nucIear bomb onto lsrael, so that they retaliate and defeat the lranian army and cause two loud booms in the heavens.
The Cold War philosophy of M.A.D. only applies if you are dealing with rational people who want to live. As Sting said: “I hope the Russians love their children too…”
Sting – Russians….

Do you make this up on your own?


No, this is standard Shia philosophy.
The Shia Twelvers…
The Mahdi, the 12th imam…
The mad philosophy of eschatology…

LMFAO @ ralfellis…….wikipedia


No, this is standard Shia philosophy.
The Shia Ithnā ʿAshariyyah Twelvers…
The Mahdi, the hidden 12th imam…
The mad philosophy of eschatology…


Eschatology, the mad philosophy of the end times….

LOL @ ralfellis ……” Shia philosophy.”

You confuse “religion” with “philosophy”…
LOL @ ralfellis…..” the mad philosophy of the end times”

Ever hear about something called “The Rapture?”


A short analysis of Shia eschatology in the current war in Syria (scroll down a bit.).
Note that the lSlS magazine (available at all UK mosques) is called Dabiq. This is a small town in northern Syria, where the end-of-times battle between Christians and Muslims is supposed to take place. Dabiq is central to Islamic (Shia) eschatology, and central to the current war in Syria. Eschatology is STILL central to Shia philosophy. Read this BBC article.
Note that the BBC will place these interesting snippets in its website, but never broadcast them on its news service. So the public have no idea what this battle in Syria is all about. Some think it is about modern politics of the Assad regime. Some think it is about oil pipelines. Some cite IsraeIi meddling. But none seem to realise that this battle in Syria is 1,200 years old, and goes back to the very origins of lslam.
(Assad’s Alawites are half Christian, celebrating Easter and Christmas, and so are regarded by Sunnis as apostates. Which is why the Syriac Christians have backed Assad 100% since 2011, because they know that Assad is their only saviour in the region. So Western politicians like Obama who want to back the Sunni ‘moderates’, are actually seeking the complete destruction of Christianity in Syria. I often wonder if these politicians are in the pay of Saudi Arabia.).
The lSlS magazine, available from every UK mosque (in manilla envelopes).comment image


>>You confuse “religion” with “philosophy”…
Not at all. Philosophy is: “The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence.”. (Oxford English Dictionary). And that is what religion tries to achieve. It may do it very badly, but it does indeed try to explain reality and existence.
>>Ever hear about something called “The Rapture?”
Did I say fundementaIists Christians were sane? I think not. Box of frohs, the lot of them.

Religion does not study the fundamental nature of knowledge.


I would like to see many more nations follow Iran’s lead. The EU, et al. needs to put up the promised funds, or shut up about climate change.

Steve Zell

The Iranians will claim that the only way they can cut “greenhouse gas” emissions is to develop nuclear power plants, so Europe needs to send them more billions to build them. Which they will promptly use to upgrade uranium into nuclear bombs that they can drop on Europe and/or Israel.
So the only sensible thing for Europe to do is to stop the “greenhouse gas” subsidies to Iran and let the Iranians emit an extra 4% of CO2, which is less bad than a mushroom cloud over Jerusalem.
But can anyone count on European bureaucrats to do something sensible?

A Russian company has signed a contract to build a nuclear plant in Iran. The Iranians want to develop their ability to generate electricity with nuclear energy and export natural gas.

The Iranians want to develop their ability to generate electricity with nuclear energy and export natural gas.

The Iranians want to develop their ability to generate electricity enriched uranium with their nuclear energy and export natural gas nuclear bombs to the US and Europe and Israel.

Gary Pearse

Gee, guys, give Iran a break, they are an oil country and they are going nuclear!



Edward Katz

Give them nothing because they wouldn’t do anything with the money to mitigate whatever warming is occurring anyway. In fact, it’s probably a safe bet that most of the Developing World recipients won’t do much with similar donations. And what happens if they take the money and don’t reduce their emissions? Do we get a refund?

Mr. Worral is turning into political activism, but not in a very impressive way to me, citing Bloomberg and Netanyahu as his trusted sources.
His link about Netanyahu is about old news and old data for the insiders, and insiders also know some interesting background of Netanyahu about matters nuclear. Mr. Worral is very sensitive to the climate hype, but clearly is very insensitive to political hype.
As these two rampant hypes are closely connected and go happily along in the media, maybe I can help Mr. Worral a bit by offering him a link in return.
I have a weak spot for Israel, but I also have a weak spot for honesty. I offer this link not for political reasons, but for factuality. Facts may be hars and unpleasant, but in the end it is all we have and all we should look for.


It’s not just you. Iran is a festering mess of hate. The leadership if we can use that term is a filthy bunch of old reprobates. The USA owes Iran a large debt going back many years. The sooner we pay it better.

Justin McCarthy

The irony is a bit rich. Even Iran must have the Paris Climate Accords “approved” by its Guardian Council before it is bound to the agreement. Whereas, President Obama, “The One”, simply blesses it and the US must be bound by it and fork over tens of billions of dollars. Too funny.


mikewaite – May 21, 2018 at 8:45 am
What on earth gives Iran the right to demand monies from US taxpayers and to demand control of the foreign policy of a free nation such as the USA , especially when the nation, IRAN, has an appalling human rights reputation .
Exhibit A:
US President George Herbert Walker Bush,
September 12, 1991
Just months ago, American men and women in uniform risked their lives to defend Israelis in the face of Iraqi Scud missiles. And indeed, Desert Storm, while winning a war against aggression, also achieved the defeat of Israel’s most dangerous adversary. And during the current fiscal year alone and despite our own economic problems, the United States provided Israel with more than $4 billion in economic and military aid, nearly $1,000 for every Israeli man, woman and child, as well as with $400 million in loan guarantees to facilitate emigrant absorption.
Let me end with just one final point: The Constitution charges the President with the conduct of the Nation’s foreign policy. [not the Israel lobby]
“When you think about how fantastically successful the Jewish lobby has been, though, in fact, they are less numerous I am told – religious Jews anyway – than atheists and [yet they] more or less monopolise American foreign policy as far as many people can see.
– Richard Dawkins, “Athiests arise”, Guardian, October 2007
► Obama Isolates Netanyahu as Head of Warmongers
Ha’aretz, Aug 6, 2015
► Netanyahu Had ‘Tense’ Call With Trump Over U.S. Plan to Leave Syria, White House Officials Say
-Ha’aretz, April 6, 2018
► Israel fears Trump may see job as done in Syria, leave Israel alone to face Iran
-Times of Israel, April 14, 2018
► Trump to Netanyahu: Do you care about peace or not?
“Trump’s direct and unscripted question to Israel’s leader shocked advisors present for the call.”
-Jerusalem Post, April 23, 2018
What on earth gives the ethno-religious state of Israel the right to demand jizya from US taxpayers and to demand control of the foreign policy of a free nation such as the USA , especially when that nation, ISRAEL, was founded on terror and has an appalling human rights reputation?
Einstein tried to warn us.


I don’t like the way the debate is framed in the MSM: enriching uranium at high grade is NOT inherently evil. HEU is a useful product. There is zero doubt the Islamic Republic of Iran has evil in mind, but HEU is not evil.
We should build HEU reactors. HEU reactors are efficient and safe.
I wish we could say to other “nations” (Islamic Republic of Iran is not a nation, it’s a state BTW):
“We can do HEU because we are not evil, you are evil, there is no double standard here, STHU.”

Tom Halla

That was about the most fatuous post I have seen in a while. Given their history, Rouhani and his puppeteer Khameni should be allowed only plastic spoons, removed after they finish eating.
The Islamic Republic of Iran has been unwilling to follow norms of international behavior since it’s formation, and only the Cold War and other international circumstances have prevented several other countries from declaring war on the Republic for it’s outrages.


The USA is deep in debt and cannot afford to be giving anyone any money at all. After all the USA is no longer part of the Paris Agreement. Iran should try to get their money from rich nations like China.

The lie is that Iran ever had a nuclear weapons program. Or that CO2 is bad.