Canadian PM Compares Climate "Denial" to Supporting Female Genital Mutilation

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, his wife Sophie Gregoire, and daughter Ella-Grace wave as they board a government plane in Ottawa, Monday August 29, 2016. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld
No kids,

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t James Delingpole / Breitbart – Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau just gave a speech in New York about the need to respect and listen to others and bring everyone together, unless those others are climate “deniers” or supporters of female genital mutilation.

Trudeau uses NYU graduation speech to criticize growth in identity politics

Trudeau uses NYU graduation speech to criticize growth in identity politics

‘The leadership we need most today, and in the years to come, is leadership that brings people together’

Mia Rabson · The Canadian Press ·

Posted: May 16, 2018 8:06 PM ET

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s first order of business after descending on Donald Trump’s hometown Wednesday was to enlist thousands of newly minted American university graduates in the fight against a rising tide of intolerance and nationalism around the world.

Officials had billed Trudeau’s three-day trip to New York and Boston as focused on trade and the economic relationship between Canada and the U.S., with looming NAFTA deadlines as a backdrop.

Respect people who don’t look or think like you do, Trudeau said. Engage those with whom you may not agree. And take up a leadership role against the aggressive nationalism and identity politics that are making the world a far more complex place to live.

The leadership we need most today, and in the years to come, is leadership that brings people together,” he said, clad in a graduation gown of his own after receiving an honorary degree — the first world leader to get one from NYU while in office.

“That brings diversity to a common cause. This is the antithesis of the polarization, the aggressive nationalism, the identity politics that have grown so common of late.”

Seeking out people with different viewpoints and respecting those who hold different political opinions does not mean those perspectives all have merit, he noted.

He mentioned advocates of female genital mutilation in the same breath as deniers of climate change — people who hold viewpoints that will never be valid, no matter how long they have been expressing those views or how loudly they do so.

He urged graduates to do more than just tolerate other points of view, but to respect and hear what others say in service of a better understanding the world, rather than simply striving to win an argument.

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What a brilliant summation of Liberal thinking on climate science. Listen to and respect the scientific views of others, unless those others express views which contradict your prejudices, in which case you are free to compare those others to misogynist child abusers.

Trudeau’s full speech:

Update (EW): Reference to FGM and Climate “Denial” around 24:10 in the video, if you don’t want to watch the entire speech


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Alan Tomalty

I now have proof that my Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada is the stupidest person ever to walk on the face of the earth. Even if you believe in AGW here are the stark facts of trying to do anything about it.
Canada puts out 1.5 % of world total of CO2 and has not had any increases for 11 years.. China puts out 30% of the world total and increased their output 4.1% in 2017.
Canda has committed to reduce per Paris agreement by 2030 of reduction of 33%. 33% of 1.5 % = 0.5%
Trudeau in the 1st phase of reductions which will culminate by 2022 will reduce by 3/4
3/4 = 0.75 and 0.5% = .005
The said reduction of temperature goal is 1.5 C by end of century
So you have 0.75 * .005 * = 0.00375 Don’t forget that carbon trading and a carbon price dont actually guarantee that any reductions will ever occur.
But if the promised reductions do occur then you multiply by goal of 1.5C so that you have 0.00375 * 1.5 = 0.005625 C
That is a reduction of a little over 5 thousandths of a degree C at the end of the next 82 years.
Since China’s increase last year as per the above is .3 * .041 = 0.0123 or 1.23% of world total
Canada’s reduction will be .75 * .005 = 0.00375
That means China’s increase for 1 year is 0.0123/ 0.00375 = 3.28 times the amount of Canada’s reduction for each year. Dont forget that Canada’s reduction is only at a maximum by 2022. In the 1st year 2019 the reduction will be 20 % of that. China has refused to decrease its output and only promised to try to limit their increases by 2030. China is not a developing country. China has 45% of the world’s skscrapers.
What will all of this cost Canada?
Price of carbon by 20222 will be $50 per ton by 2022 and at 700 million tons = 35 billion $ Can
This will still leave Canada short 66 million tons of its Paris commitment to cut by 2030 and Trudeau has said that Cnada will meet its commitment by 2030.
What will this cost each household in Canada?
Minimum of $1100 Can and maximum of $2500 Can depending on rebates given back by each province. Some provinces have promised to give all of it back.

Ian Magness

Sound maths Alan T.
Only problem – how the hell does anyone even begin to calculate what “carbon emissions” actually are for any country, leave alone one the size of Canada? Surely, it must simply be fairy tales to suit your narrative? Further, even if the likes of Canada or the UK can have a reasonable stab at this (which I seriously doubt), does anybody believe for one moment that the likes of China are going to be honest about this, especially as they have no intention of reducing their make-believe “carbon emissions” in the first place?

We use data on fossil fuel consumption, cement manufacture, etc. it’s easy to estimate. Many large companies have a small bureaucracy estimating CO2 emissions. This is kept handy just in case the government decides to impose a CO2 emissions tax.

Ian Magness

Thanks Fern,
All fine in theory but, realistically, to what degree of accuracy are these figures calculated? Plus or minus 50% perhaps for a country like the UK where we have a developed economy and plenty of paid virtue signallers? But in cases like China or India? And, even in the UK, what about instances like Drax where supposedly “sustainable” power generation is allocated big fat zero “carbon emissions” even though, in reality, total process emissions are as least as “bad” as for the coal powered units they replaced?
I’m sorry but, overall, I simply don’t trust any of these whole-country emissions estimates as far as I could throw Al Gore.


If you burn an exact amount of carbon based fuel, you make an exact amount of carbon dioxide, really not hard to figure out.


Garbage in garbage out. Exact calculations based on easily manipulated raw data collected by fanatics who see what they want to see. Maths is not the problem, the people who decide what is or isn’t within the field of measurement are. National boundaries are rarely exact for a start, China (colluding with Pakistan) and India have been fighting over theirs since 1962. India used to dominate the Himalayas but are being slowly pushed out by China, such a situation is ripe for bureaucratic fudging of figures among other problems.


But Trudeau supports transgender agenda which IS genital mutilation. Both male and female.

And isn’t the transgender agenda also an example of ‘identity politics’ ?
When exactly did this become a term of disapprobation for liberals ?

Chris Hoff

The entire western world opposes female genital mutilation but turns a blind eye to male infant genital mutilation(circumcision). Circumcision in N. America was popularized by a Dr. Kellogg, of cornflakes fame. He believed it would discourage masturbation, which at the time was viewed as a cause of insanity. Dr. Kellogg knew a great deal about insanity, he also believed in daily yogurt enemas. Make no mistake, apart from emergencies, male circumcision has no medical value, the foreskins from infant boys are used to make women’s facial beauty products among other things.

John harmsworth

Trudeau has been the biggest generator and enabler of identity politics the country has ever seen. He’s a clown. His cabinet are clowns. I could take that but the smug hypocrisy really gets under my skin.

Doug in Calgary

Almost daily this trust fund man-child embarrasses himself and Canada.

Trudeau is the leading practitioner of identity politics.


Being a competitor of Canadian raw materials I can only hope that Trudeau remains in charge for ever. We have a lot of barking mad pollies in Australia but your PM is going too help our Chinese exports for a very long time. Every time he opens his mouth we will ship more coal. I do hope he speaks Mandarin? He could work for Austrade. The barby with no steak, no prawns, no sizzle and no heat…….
I have never tried to cook a prawn with bull but it must work. There are lots of them in Canada.

Jeff Labute

There doesn’t seem to be any specific qualifications to be prime minister other than you gave a good eulogy at your dads funeral which is when he was noticed in politics, and he graduated as a drama teacher. Justin and Barbie are so offensive. The NDP party is even worse. In BC where we just recently had the president of the NDP/Green Party arrested and charged for blocking the Kinder Morgan pipe line expansion, caused Alberta to make legislation to restrict flow of oil products to B.C., and our fuel prices soar (est. $6/gallon). At the same time, BC pension fund has invested money in Kinder Morgan. Politicians are running wild.

Robert of Ottawa

I still don’t undeerstand why he wants to make Canada colder. Madness indeed.


It is hard to believe, a Canuck can be told
We have to pay more to make it stay cold
Only a Liberal on climate change sold
Could be arrogant enough for a position so bold

John harmsworth

His government is saying that they will indemnify Kinder Morgan against losses caused by B.C. stalling permits and construction of the pipeline. I want to know where this money is coming from. There can only be one acceptable source. It MUST COME FROM FEDERAL TRANSFERS TO B.C.!
Not from the rest of us!

Keep in mind that the source of Justin’s ideology is his principal advisor, Gerald Butts, a climate extremist. Butts is a McGill Univ arts grad who went on to become CEO of WWF Canada and then on to architect of Ontario’s Green Energy Act, an unmitigated disaster for Ontario’s economy:


Given that the vast majority of Canada’s land area, not counting permafrost, is covered with trees and muskeg, shouldn’t Canada be making a fortune selling “carbon credits” to the gullible folks around the world?


Yes, we here in Canada age CO2 emission negative (e.g. we export wood and grain.)

John harmsworth

Canada is the second coldest country in the world. So we need a lot of heat.
It is the second largest with a relatively small population. So a lot of travel is necessary.
We grow a lot of food for export. Tractors and combines burn diesel and people do like to eat.
We produce a lot of coal, oil and gas for export. Apparently to places that need those products. If they stop buying, we will stop producing.
We produce a lot of environmentalists who produce copious amounts of CO2 flying around to conferences. We’ll try to cut back.

Mickey Reno

And you didn’t even factor in the part about how the world’s biosphere NEEDS this CO2. Not only isn’t it dangerous, it’s a godsend. China is helping the world more than Canada on the CO2 front, because it’s emitting more. Of course, they’re notorious polluters in other ways, so I hope they will really focus on reducing coal smokestack emissions and soot. But the Chinese people deserve modern electricity generation to raise up their economy. They deserve a decent standard of living. It would be better if the Communists would start to allow more freedoms, but at least they appear to be mostly embracing Capitalism, if not other forms of individual freedom.

Caligula Jones

What, a guy with such an impressive resume (i.e., high school drama teacher) is an idiot?
But…that hair! Those socks!
I couldn’t stand his father, but like most Jesuit-educated folks, he wasn’t an idiot.
As the joke goes, Justin got his dad’s looks and his mom’s brains.


He’s not that stupid.
Let’s be fair, Justin inherited a boatload of contradictory “policies” from his dad, who was a master of hypocrisy, and from his party, for which he is little more than a figurehead. It’s simply impossible to avoid looking stupid when you need to publicly endorse completely contradictory social policies, such as selling armoured pensonnel carriers to the Saudis while calling for peace on earth.
And it’s hard to blame Canadian voters for choosing the party that offered pie in the sky and justice for all as opposed to the one that allowed innocent Canadians to be tortured for years in Syria or Guantanamo.
If we had the leadership to offer the Canadian voters a government responsive to them instead of Washington and New York, the full might of American media, commerce, and intelligence services would immediately move to crush it, as some of us remember from the “FLQ Crisis”. Canada is a sovereign country in name only, because it has a seat in the UN. Its real status is just a bit North of Puerto Rico’s. You can hardly expect people with any integrity and strength of character to line up for the “leadership” position, if you remember what happened to John Diefenbaker and Tommy Douglas.
Besides, Donald Trump actually makes Justin Trudeau seem bright by comparison. Makes one wonder who’s actually pulling his strings.

tom s

While Trump is loud and obnoxious at times, he’s light years ahead of the sissy in Canada.


Yes, but who voted the idiot in?

mitch novin

Trudeau is not stupid. He is a leftist tool, a true believer, if you will. He will spout the left’s Marxist rhetoric and daily marching orders like a robot. He is the ultimate useful idiot because he is the prime minister !! Trudeau’s belief system has been formed over his entire lifetime into a quasi “liberal” but in reality, a Marxist secular religion. The murderous righteousness of Marxists is what makes them incredibly dangerous.


Actually, robust nationalism promotes diversity.


Is this an autobot reply? Does it mean anything. Are the Russians using WUWT to test AI trolls? My cheeks burn with shame for our Canadian Prime Minister. Peoplekind indeed.


Why is he insulting climate skeptics that way? I would NEVER insult him by saying that he was a failed drama coach who fluked into his job because his father happened to be prime minister at one time. I would NEVER say such a thing about a guy who specializes in virtue signalling or talks climate change out of one side of his mouth while promoting oil pipeline construction with the other. No sir. I don’t go around insulting our glorious leader like that. Never.


Nor would I ever refer to him as an odious little scrote just because he considers climate scepticism as bad as FGM .
Mind you, I daresay President Trump might have a choice term or two for him, for that comparison.


Robust nationalism results in nations that differ in meaningful ways, which means real diversity, as opposed to progressive diversity, which means ideological conformity. The Canadian PM is an ideological conformist, as his vile summer jobs program makes abundantly clear.


Trebla, I understand the sarc\ but I think at the end of it you hit on something important: we’ve been referring to these people as “leaders” for quite some time now when they are nothing but. They are representatives whom we (as a whole) have turned into leaders because being involved is too hard.

NW sage

Not to worry – Trudeau now has an honorary degree from NYU. A Nobel Prize is no longer necessary for him to achieve the rank of TOTAL PERFECTION.

Sun Spot

Excessive diversity is a strategic weakness and Canada has excessive diversity!

Diversity divides.
Conformity is boring.
Occasional conflict is entertaining.
Constant conflict is tiring.


John H: You can only beat them with a hockey stick if they are on skates and on ice.

Robust? Are you aware that imam Trudeau’s liberal party supports FGM – officially?
One Canadian man who wrote F- islam on a public bench – jailed for months as a hate crime.
One moslem (new Canadian) man beat his wife with a hockey stick for a half an hour- he got off fully and completely because – it’s this moslem’s culture.
There is NO criminal charges for moslem parents who do FGM to their daughters – UNLESS, get this, an infection happens!
Many islamic ‘honor’ killings here now – they count them as domestic and use to promote gun control.
Diversity my azz.

John harmsworth

I could say that the guy got off because it’s ok to beat somebody with a hockey stick in Canada. But that would be in bad taste so I won’t.


hocky stick … ok
polo mallet … kicked out of country
cricket bat … probation
baseball bat … go to jail

Robert of Texas

Uhh… So now I am… the same as a person who mutilates females… because I… disagree with your view on global warming?
And this guy is a leader of a nation? Canada? REALLY???
Did this guy finish 6th grade?

Randy Stubbings

I am a Canadian who is counting the days to the next election in the hope that sanity will return. He is more worried about legalizing pot and what the temperature might be in 100 years than he is about jobs and the economy. His views are not mine. Oh, and despite denying that humans are the main cause of climate change, I am not guilty of female genital mutilation. (Just for the record.)


Ditto. Trudeau has pissed-off pretty much everyone in Canada, except a few special ‘victim’ groups.
Can’t wait to see him tossed out next year.

Leo Smith

legalising pot will be fantastic.That way all the liberal activists will get stoned, and miss the demos.


‘Not guilty of female genital mutilation’. Yeah right, that’s what all climate deniers say. (sarc on)


I honestly doubt that PM-uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,uh … uh,uh,uh … passed 6th grade. I assume all his teachers passed his substandard, incomplete, work, in exchange for … well … the ONLY thing he has to offer. No, not his intellect. No, not his sexuality. No … in exchange for a glimpse of his famous daddy (and mommy). Sock Boy is so far, far, far, out of his depth, it is painful to consider that Canadians are even DUMBER than Sock Boy … because they actually ELECTED this sad excuse of a sock puppet.

Malcolm Carter

Actually grade 6 is not the triumph it used to be.


Dude, relax, we voted in Kevin Rudd, US voted in Nancy Pelosi—we all really stuff up some times.


justine castro doesn’t have a problem with genital mutilation when he’s frolicking with a tranny…lol

Robert of Ottawa

Well, the “brains” behind the Boy Wonder, bless his cotton socks, is a guy named Gerald Butts, eco-ideologue extraordinaire(ly wealthy). Funded by WWF


They used the wrong orfice when they shoved in his silver spoon.

He never did seem to learn to think.
His speaks in a series of platitudes.
They only address his own shallow morality.
This, however, may be true of the average voter or the average commenter here.

John harmsworth

Robert, Let it be a warning to you. You guys came within a couple whiskers of getting Bernie! Like a senile Justin!

Trudeau makes Trump look like a genius.
Don’t the liberals love Islam (but what about FGM that comes with it) ?
Greening of Canada, and warmer winter nights from greenhouse gasses,
but stupid-head Trudeau has no idea what a greenhouse gas allegedly does
I suppose he is a good parrot for progressive propaganda!


How many FGM convictions have there been in Canada?


Jones…..In 1997, Canada’s Criminal Code was amended to include female genital mutilation as a form of aggravated assault. There has never been a criminal prosecution or conviction for female genital mutilation in Canada. From The Star. July 18. 2017. and The Global Citizen. Feb 2018.
Trudeau is just a toad!

Alan Tomalty

The Muslim families send their daughters overseas to have the operation.

Pamela Gray

Alan, if that is the case, then the Muslim parents ought to be prosecuted for child abuse to the fullest extent related to such barbaric practices. If they are not prosecuted then it is the Prime Minister who is guilty, not those who believe climate change is a natural part of a highly variable planet.

Alan Tomalty

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand exactly how are you going to carry out the investigation in each case? How much government money would you have to spend having to send an investigator to the foreign clinic where the operation was done? Especially since these foreign clinics would probably not keep any records. Are you going to have compulsory examinations of every 12 year old muslim school girl? I could ask you 20 more embarassing questions on your proposed Muslim genital mutilation prosecution project but I am sure you want me to stop now.


“Are you going to have compulsory examinations of every 12 year old muslim school girl?”
Why not? It would put an end to the practise and save many future generations of 12 year old muslim girls.
As I understand it, Britain has never prosecuted anyone for mutilating their daughters, either. So the practise will continue.

Bryan A

You only have to document, catch and successfully prosecute 1 father to see the beginning of the end of this brutality

Tom Halla

My preferred punishment for FGM would be to put the practitioner in the general prison population, and tell the other prisoners what the person was in prison for.


Western countries have no problem putting parents in jails for “shaken baby syndrome”, even though nobody knows whether there is such thing.


You guys should go educate yourselves before blaming the practice on Muslims. From what I know, there are far more boys getting their genitals mutilated than girls. An now Hollywoodizens are putting it (extract) on their faces to look young and beautiful (sick!)
Here’s an easy starter:
Penis facial:
Full disclosure: I am not Muslim. I am a practicing Catholic.

I understand that in the USA, Israel, and other nations they also practice male genital mutilation (shudder).


“There has never been a criminal prosecution or conviction for female genital mutilation in Canada.”
Yes, indeed, it’s the current system treading oh-so-softly in not unsettling Islamic sentiments.
Chamberlain had a similar approach towards Hitler.


“You only have to document, catch and successfully prosecute 1 father to see the beginning of the end of this brutality”.
I’m sure the misandrist groups will be out in force imminently to get this ball rolling.


There is no harm done from circumcision.
FGM is designed to ensure that women can’t enjoy sex.

Bryan A

FGM is to a Female what Glans removal would be to a Male. Circumcision isn’t even in the same league.


“There is no harm done from circumcision.”
A faith based statement.


The only adverse effects of circumcision are climaxing faster (because the nerve clusters responsible for arousal are more exposed) and being more susceptible to bruising and chafing should one, ahem, over-indulge.
A far cry from full amputation of the prepubescent clitoris.


FGM could be stopped instantaneously in Western countries if there was political will. You just make it illegal regardless of where and when it took place and mandate compulsory yearly examinations or when entering the country, and jail and condemn any parent of a girl that has suffered FGM. Parents are responsible because of their duty to protect their daughters. End of the story.
The Kirira Foundation in Spain works in Kenya, and has saved thousands of girls from FGM through collaboration with local education and health centers, and providing safe homes, for a modest investment.
A politician talking about a problem and not doing anything to solve it is a hypocrite.

Pamela Gray

And sanction any country that chooses not to arrest and convict parents who send their daughter elsewhere for the mutilation.

Tom Halla

Justin Trudeau is trying to make Jerry Brown or Maxine Waters seem rational.




I seem to recall Jerry calling for the jailing of all us “deniers”

Javert Chip

Tom Halla
Oh, that’s good. Very good.

Komrade Kuma

Oh Canaduuuh !
Sorry Canucks, its just too easy when that dribbledick opens his mouth.


I am not much for violence, but some faces just demand to be punched. Arrogant virtue signaling little twit.

John Darrow

As a Canadian I really fear for Trudeau’s mental state – and the contradiction above just proves the point. He, like other left wing nuts, plead for ‘peoplekind’ to understand different points of view and then compares people like me, who do not agree with him on global warming, to someone who would condone genital mutilation.

Have pity upon poor wee Justin Trudeau (aka Climate Ken) – just one more crazy global warming hysteric.
Leo above referred to a global warming hysteric as “a modern day Cnut”.
I still think a spell-check is in order.
Regards, Allan

Komrade Kuma

I became a committed skeptic when I saw a Nobel Prize Winner, a microbiologist, who, while giving a presentation put up a slide which listed vaccination opponents, tobacco companies (denying that smoking causes lung cancer), Holocaust Deniers and climate change ‘skeptics’ to the end that all were equal “DENIERS”. It was so blatant, so unscientific, so National Socialist inspired and very, very ugly. I saw him for what he was, an utter coward, a sleazebag and never to be trusted again in the same sense that no one with half a brain would ever trust anything Michael Mann ever said or wrote.
By comparison Trudeau is just a vacuous airhead, going with the flow so that he gets eco cuddles from all the rest of the eco imbeciles out there. What a pathetic little person.

John harmsworth

I started out accepting that Global warming was scientifically determined fact. I decided to research it a little so I could discuss it intelligently with others. I had done the same with evolution ( read “On The Origin of Species” ).
The more I read the more puzzled I became. I couldn’t seem to find the reasonable evidence I was looking for. So I read more and more. I became somewhat alarmed at the powerful affirmative statements I read that had no supporting evidence, or evidence that was obviously inadequate and sometimes entirely contrived.
As a long time science buff, I was disappointed and concerned as I gradually determined that an important field of inquiry was utterly corrupted.
I now accept that cynicism and disbelief are the protective tools to wield in the modern world. Sad.


Nobel Prizers in biomed are known to utter preposterous statement, as if they were just Big Biomed shills. They are overrated. Sad!


John D,
They (he) aren’t suggesting an understanding of differing points of view. They are telling their side to engage with differing points of view.
(Like griff did. Like kristi stifler, chris, and the new guy scott try to do).
The practice is not intended to win over anyone. It is not intended that they learn anything. It is not intended that they build bridges.
It is intended that the useful idiots (like those listed above) are kept active in the “off season”. So that their enthusiasm won’t fade and they will be ready/willing/able when they are really needed … for protests and important votes and campaign contributions.

high treason

It will be so interesting to see what happens when the SHTF about climate lies. There will be a lot of egg on faces and a lot of explaining to do. This is why the warmists will NEVER admit they have lied all along about it. They will continue the lie on and on. WHEN the great cooling comes, they will just change the narrative(again.)

When the cooling comes, they’ll say: “All those nasty man made industrial particulates in the air are shielding us from the Sun, despite our heroic efforts to cut the nasty pollutant plant food.”
I can just see it now. & there will be a raft of second & third rate “scientists” to write papers to prove it.
John Doran.

Wallaby Geoff

Such statements are a notch on the political suicide ladder. When do Canadians get to cast a vote on this guy?

John harmsworth

Women, dopeheads and moochers will vote for him again. Especially once he makes a few expensive election promises. That’s probably enough to get him re-elected. God help us!

This stupid bastard is likely to get himself banned from entering the USA, just like his daddy (not his biological daddy) did.

Chris Carleton

Our PM is a national embarrassment. He makes me cringe every time he leaves the country. At least while he is in Canada no one in the rest of the world pays any attention to him, but let him speak on an international stage and this is what we get. Our next federal election in 2019 cannot come soon enough.


I could say the same thing about Trump except he understands Americans come first. I’ll trade that for any social faux pas. Who cares if he doesn’t understand the “political process” if he gets the job done.


Trump understands the political bs process quite well. That is why he stays away from it to get the job done.

The Ugly Truth About Justin Trudeau | Ezra Levant and Stefan Molyneux

Carbon Bigfoot

We careful what you wish for as I understand “Mr. Wonderful”, Kevin O’Leary, hedge fund manager, who is intelligent and has a war chest is considering a run for PM.
Statements he’s made on CNBC indicates he is a big Climate Change Supporter. Obviously his fund must be heavily invested in alternative energy schemes???
Any comments you hozers?


Shark has been well and truly jumped.


Is there any idea too inane for this guy?


So, what is this story about climate genital mutilation ?


Floods, hurricanes, typhoons, drought, too little snow, too much snow, warm winters, cold winters, coral bleaching, increasing deserts, shrinking deserts, melting snow on the twin peaks of Kilamanjaro, record high and record low Antarctic ice, starving polar bears, fat polar bears and now female genital mutilation. Oh, the humanity!

There is a dirty old man joke somewhere in that title, but I pass.


Have I got this right: If I want to become a leftist eco-nut: all I need to do is to turn logic on its head, lie, eschew decency, and embrace Fascism. Well, no thank-you.

John Endicott

Yep, you got it right.


Don’t forget “label anyone who disagrees with you a Fascist”.

Andre Lauzon

I knew many Universities were degrading…….but not that low: give Trudeau an honorary degree!!!
How much did he pay for it? It’s worst than Obama getting the Nobel.


“I know Justin. He doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. This guy is an empty trust-fund millionaire who has the political depth of a finger bowl” … Jason Kenney


Thank you commieBob!
Ouch! More WUWT followers should read about Jason Kenney’s comments on Trudeau Jr.
Jason Kenney called Justin Trudeau an ’empty trust-fund millionaire’ and he’s not taking it back
Alberta United Conservative Leader Kenney says, from his experience, Trudeau ‘has difficulty with complex files’ such as the Trans Mountain pipeline


In the unlikely event that Trudeau wins again, Alberta will have little choice but to secede or die. Pretty much every one of Trudeau’s policies is a direct attack on Alberta, which is the very province that’s keeping Canada’s economy bumbling along.


A grossly offensive remark which reveals the double- think that is typical of left wing thinking.
The next thing he will be saying is that we sceptics deny the existence of the Holocaust. (sarc.


Many in Canada refer to him as “Shiny Pony”, a spin-off of the “My Little Pony” cartoon characters.
Enough said.

John Darrow

Since his dress displays in India I, and most people I talk with, agree that the best descriptive name for ‘Sunny Ways’ Trudeau is, Mr Dressup – the old children’s TV show. With apologies to the actual Mr Dressup


You have to understand that Justin Trudeau is PM solely because of his dad’s famous surname, not because he had any previous skills or personal resume that would warrant such a position. The Liberals pretend to be the party of science yet are legalizing marijuana in spite of the abundance of real science that overwhelmingly points to the drug as addictive poison, especially for kids. Liberal science is all about the money, power, highs, and easy votes.

Actually Daddy’s first name was Fidel.


“Justin, I am your father.”
-Fidel Csstro

Leo Smith

No. marijuana is not addictive and its not a poison.
Its main downsides are lung damage and a tendency to precipitate people with schizophrenia into serious episodes.


There are overblown claims on both sides. As far as I can tell, its bad effects are less bad than the bad effects of alcohol. The apparent benefits are much better than what alcohol can offer.
In places where there is medical marijuana, there are fewer prescriptions for pain killers including opioids. As well:

They also saw a link between legalized medical marijuana laws and a drop in prescriptions for antidepressants, seizure medication, sleeping pills, anxiety medication and anti-nausea drugs. link

On the other hand … one of my chemist friends had been using (the much weaker then) marijuana in the 1970s. He quit using when he found that it was affecting his short term memory. “Did I add chemical ‘A’ yet?”

John harmsworth

I’m sort of neutral on this argument as far as the effects of marijuana. However, I think one of the primary arguments was to take it away from organized crime by legalizing it. I am about as sure as I can be that this won’t work out the way it’s intended. The criminals aren’t going to start legal jobs because they can’t sell weed anymore. They will just become more industrious in other areas of criminal activity. These will probably be worse than weed.
Then again, I favour execution for dealers in hard drugs, so maybe I’m not representative.


You’ll have to define addictive Leo.
I’ve numerous friends/acquaintances that tried to stop and repeatedly gave up. In the process of abstaining they were very grumpy shitheads … it was way better when they gave up and started smoking again.
Marijuana has a very wide range of effect on different users. Some can benefit, some can handle it, some can handle it (but shouldn’t), some can’t handle it, some just go to sleep. Different for everyone.


Just like how you have different types of drunks, you also have different types of stoners.
And legalization won’t stop the smuggling or backwoods cultivation. It will just change the directions of travel. The original motivation for smuggling is to increase your profit margin by avoiding the paying of trade duties. That will not have changed. Your cargo will still be contraband, just for a different reason.


“Its main downsides are lung damage”
Then, vap.


Based on stories I’ve heard from those who actually move in such circles, yes, Leftwing Luckies and Progressive Pall Malls are addictive.


One in every six 16 year-olds (and one in every eleven adults) who try marijuana will become addicted to it. Jones-Webb R, McKee P, Hannan P, Wall M, Pham L, Erickson et al.
More young people are in treatment for marijuana abuse or dependence than for the use of alcohol and all other drugs. SAMHSA Center for Behavioral Health Statistics and Quality (2010)


No no no, he got voted in because of his pretty hair!


Many things are “addictive”, whatever that means.
Why would “conservative” who are pretend “small government” people would allow the government to regulated “addictive” substances? “Conservative” is another empty word, like “liberal”.


What a sick twisted freak!
This needs to be viral!
Nick Stokes, Steven Mosher, even Appell and Cotton and other protagonists who have moved on to new handles, do you agree with this comparison? Are you onboard with the new rhetoric of your peers/advocates?
Canada, stand up and do the right thing!
No matter who you are, if you do not condemn this type of behavior, you are no better that the comparison itself.
Absolutely disgusting….. in fact I think it liable!

R. Shearer

Depends on your definition of mutilation.


And your definition of denial, female, and genital, too.


And the meaning of “is”?

r murphy

Canada is not the nation it was, progressive ideology spread by the unionized public school system and the deeply Marxist CBC, (Canada’s publicly funded broadcaster) has dangerously poisoned the voting pool and in the short term there is little hope, there will be much suffering before the brainwashed begin to grasp the realities of conservative governance. It is possible that Canada will founder in this storm, the situation will get much worse before it improves, the Liberals identity politics are destroying the nation.

John harmsworth

Rex? Is that you? Not enough words I’ve never heard before. lol!

Pat Lane

I’m no fan of genital mutilation for either gender.
It seems unfortunate, though, the Justin’s father didn’t undergo a medically supervised and properly anaesthetised vasectomy.


Pierre Elliot Trudeau was Canadian PM in the 1960’s and a sensible politician in a era when the French Canadians were all for a free Quebec, separated from the rest of Canada. His son is probably the product of Quebecois trends in education since then.


If only Quebec had left back then, so many of Canada’s problems would not exist today.
Every time I see the referendum results, I wish just a few thousand more people had turned out to vote ‘Leave’.

John harmsworth

Pierre was an authoritarian spend-o-holic who only cared about Quebec!


Trudeau is certainly an embarrassment. I don’t know why anyone would want to invite a climate clown like Trudeau to their event in the first place.


He was center ring at clown school….

Hokey Schtick

I think that was a very reasoned and nuanced observation from a world leader of uncommon insight and wisdom. If only more of our leaders were so eloquent.

B. Caswell

The irony burns, when the Liberals removed references to FGM being bad, from the new citizenship guide, when they circulated the first draft ……and had to add it back in because removing it caused huge backlash. This was after months of failing to committ to adding it back in….things are a joke up here, He is more likely to be condemned for negatively labeling these other cultures, by equating them to sceptics.

dodgy geezer

…Canadian PM Compares Climate “Den*al” to Supporting Female Genital Mutilation…
Ah… So…in the UK we have had a law against Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) for many years. And many examples of it amongst the immigrant population. But there has NEVER been a conviction under it.
So, if the UK government are tacitly and secretly supporting FGM, does that mean that they are also secret Climate Change Deni*rs?


why did UK need a law again female genital mutilation? Aren’t mutilation, whether male or female, whether genital or not, forbidden by common law, and all the more so when done on children?


Male genital mutilation is legal, asking why is unlawful.


then again, all mutilation are illegal, AFAIK.
Now, all biological matter removal are not considered mutilation, for some reason. So you can legally shave, scratch, use soap and shampoo, practice circumcision, liposuction, or breast reduction, extract extra teeth, and even blood and bone marrow (including from children, in some case!)


Unfortunately, there is a perverse form of racism in the UK. A white woman who genitally mutilated her daughter would be instantly prosecuted (rightly) and sentenced to years in prison.

John harmsworth

But as a woman she would get a suspended sentence. A man would never see the light of day. Unless he were a minority of some sort. Complicated justice system.


Australia has a number of convictions for FGM so clearly that means we aren’t deni*rs then.

Bob in Castlemaine

We know that the US once had the Spruce Goose for a fleeting moment (one flight) but what has Canada and the rest of the world done to deserve the Canada Goose?


What a blithering idiot.


Trudope would know about such things – HE is a supporter of all things Muslim and so I think he just told us all he’s a closet AGW denier… 😀
Funny how the loudest mouths in the Church of AGW say the stupidest things.


Since the quintessential Canadian trait is to be apologetic, may I please apologise for Justins
lack of mental acuity, his vapid puerile way of expressing himself, and his perfectly coifed hair.
Thank you. And I apologize for taking up your time. Thank you.

J Mac

Hang in there, Canada! America values and appreciates the hard working folks to our north!
Yes – Trudeau is a feral, virtue signaling socialist without any other redeeming capabilities. So was Obama. Like Obama was, Trudeau is such a poor national and international leader he is convincing your electorate of the imperative need to boot his smirking brand of politics to the curb.
Get to work now, organizing at the grassroots levels in advance of your 2019 election, so you don’t have to put up with him in 2020!


“Did this guy finish 6th grade?”
He was a school teacher. It shows. No offence to the good ones.
He was on the right track though even if he bungled it.
“He urged graduates to do more than just tolerate other points of view, but to respect and hear what others say in service of a better understanding the world, rather than simply striving to win an argument.”
More listening to skeptics and less calling them names would be a good change.

Ed Zuiderwijk

I once met a guy who had no problem with the concept of slavery. As long as he himself was not at the receiving end, of course. Do I have to respect his point of view? Or him for having it?
Those who ‘respect’ other people’s ‘values’ by default, irrespective of what they are, respect no values at all. They live in a moral vacuum.


‘respect’ is a strange word. Some guy told that you must show some respect (that is, take very seriously) to guys willing to die and kill for a cause, however how nutty or wrong the cause seems to you (this was about terrorists). And he was right, but triggered a lot of people by telling this simple truth. Because people tend to link respect to morality or approuval, while they are totally unrelated
‘respect’ is a most used word in gangster stories, for some reason.
So you better ‘respect’ the value of the slaver. That is, prepare to kick is ass very hard, for this is the only way for him to respect your value of freedom.


‘respect’ is indeed a strange word, and it means different things to different people, unfortunately, and I don’t have an easy way to clear this up. Buddhists would understand. Respect a person does not mean you have to agree with his ideas or values, only that you treat him as a person, decently.
The quote again, without the dangerous word:
“He urged graduates to do more than just tolerate other points of view, but to [listen and] hear what others say in service of a better understanding the world, rather than simply striving to win an argument.”

Susan Howard

The civilisation of the western world was built up on slavery. To the ancient Romans and Greeks it was the normal state of affairs. Socrates and Plato didn’t lose sleep over it, nor, for that matter, did St Paul. I still respect their views and values on other points, if not on that one.


Most of his teaching experience was at a snowboarding school…..

Nigel S

An interesting (and somewhat ironic) comparison in a world where states assert their right to change the sex of children despite parents’ objections.


I think people who talk about “changing the sex” are totally wrong. That’s what you don’t change. What you can change to some extent is the appearance.
My cousin-in-law has “changed her/his sex”. That means she/he has a new social security number, new name, new passport, different hairs and bumps in the body. She/he (why do you need to distinguish in English?) can’t change how tall she/he is, or how wide a jaw she/he has. I think she/he might have been happier with hormal treatment before she was 18, but I’m not sure when you are able to determine the sex of the brain? You know, people are not fully men or women in their heads, so how would we know when to let children start treatment?
And remember, you can’t change the sex. You can just hide some features of your body.
For me, this is a puzzle. For many people, it is not a puzzle but something to be sure about.

John Endicott

In todays liberal gender-fluid world, if the girl who undergoes FGM identifies as a boy would it then count as a male circumcision and thus be perfectly ok legally? what if the girl identifies as one of the other 57 gender identities, would it still be considered FGM seeing as she/xi isn’t “female”? trying to understand liberalism just gives one a headache (unless one identifies as headless, I guess).


Dear PM Trudeau,
Most children subject to the practice (FGM) are, by the liberal side discussion, too young to know if they are indeed female or male. (or something else).
SO, using the term FGM should be banned in Canada, as it may push an impressionable young child to pick the wrong gender. Not that there is a “wrong gender” (or really any gender at all … I mean, isn’t gender really just a social construct), it’s just that the gender may not be appropriate for the child’s specific timeline mindset. My point being that using the language of FGM is potentially just as harmful as FGM itself.
In closing, if my suggestion sparks any kind of logical recognition on your part, then you are indeed the brainless twit that people say that you are.


No place for SCUM in the brave new progressive alphabet.
(Straight Conservative Uncolored Males)

John Endicott

Don, Perhaps the PM can refer to it as PGM (P for Personkind) 😉


Further confirming his status as a.complete.idiot


A complete idiot just cannot become Premier. Although it helps a lot that your enemies think you are, and underestimate you accordingly. The swamp is full of crocodiles who know their business, and shows no mercy for idiots.
Quite the opposite, he calculated (or asserted with political instinct) that ‘believing'(*) in CAGW and using it as a scapegoat served him and his political schemes more than any other.
And it does, obviously.
(*)Whether CAGW is really true or not just doesn’t matter, and he didn’t check at all.


“A complete idiot just cannot become Premier.”
He can if he has the right name and enough money behind him.
Trudeau won a majority in the last election, mostly by convincing his supporters that Harper was Literally Hitler. The polls show that he’s now running the Womyn’s Party, as the vast majority of men have abandoned the Liberals, and only women’s support remains high.
Taking a majority and turning it around in only three years so the Conservatives would win a majority if there was an election today seems idiotic to me. In the next couple of years, there’s a good chance that Conservatives will take back Alberta (almost certain), win Ontario (highly likely) and win Canada (likely).


A name helps a lot, but is not enough to attract enough money, and neither will help you from being eaten alive by mates at the slightest mistake.
Being elected and running the office are to very different business, unfortunately with bad correlation. Countless politicians were very good at one and just as bad at the other, that doesn’t make any of them an idiot.
Very stupid politics, hurting the country, sometime makes perfect political sense, so much so that advocating good politics can be a sure way to NOT be elected, or to be kicked out of office.


doesn’t this one come from a guy who refuse to condemn genital mutilation of girls practinioners, because, you know, that would be white cultural supremacism?

Patrick Peake

And yet I read today that Canada is the leading country for heli-skiing. If ever there was an activity that could be banned because of CO2 emissions surely this would qualify.


Just an example of the major difference between we skeptic and you believer.
When the Guardian tells you to laugh, you laugh, as a viewer of a sitcom with recorded laugh.
I personally asked myself: “OK, how much matter erosion brings from land into the seas?”, then proceeded to check some source, which was not so easy (apparently this simple question doesn’t have a simple answer),
The fact is, it looks like the beach nourishment from sediment from the land is more or less equal to sea rise, according to people concerned by sea level rise
“Results from geological investigations in south-east Australia and sediment transport modelling from the Netherlands coast indicates that sand supply from the lower shore face fully compensates for the effects of significant relative sea level rise.”–sea-level-rise.aspx
Is that “moronic” to think that, since matter form the land and sea level rise are equal, the first is cause of the second? No it’s not. Just like early (XIX) estimates of “greenhouse effect”, it may be wrong, but not “moronic”.

It is a drop in the ocean my friend and don’t believe any whacky source that says it is different…


A drop in the ocean it surely is, but so is a ~1/1,000,000 of ocean depth per year level rise.
Australian parliament MAY BE a whacky source, but the Guardian is for sure.
Then again, I looked for a source and thought about it, as a skeptic do. You didn’t, as a CAGW believer do. You just let your prejudice and bandwagoning with whacky Gardian drive you into parroting retweet without any thinking. You acted like a pathetic bully, “my friend”.

Arrogant climate change reactionary just about sums you up hunter – just substitute reactionary with sceptic
[I hope you two have had fun but the rest of us find this boring . . . mod]

Nigel S

Quoting the Guardian is not a good indicator of membership of the reality based community. This comment from CIF about dear Polly is quite old but gives the flavour of the place pretty well (a make work scheme for posh entitled arts graduates, close bosom friend of the BBC). Polly didn’t graduate of course although her one ‘A’ level and Tonybee connections got her in on a scholarship.
‘On Tuesday last,
A falcon, towering in her pride of place,
Was by a mousing owl hawk’d at and kill’d.
And then, ev’n in that unholy rain,
That fell and fell and made winter of lost summer,
Mad Polly was heard to talk some sense…
We are seriously doomed.’

Scepics seem to really detest The Guardian because it is the leading broadsheet on environmental initiatives and has some fantastic in-depth articles on climate change, which enrages the US sceptic community because they do not have a similar source to support their views. So if the sceptics keep on trashing it, you know it’s environmental coverage is hitting the nail on the head!


Sane people hate the Gardian because of it “fantastic” (indeed!) articles. Too much fantasy, science-fiction, propaganda and the like reported as news. No other reason needed.
Here is a joke:
At a zoo, a child fall of his mother arms into the pit of the tiger. A squad of soldiers happens to be there, too, and one of them jump in, distract the tiger with a burger, save the child, and, with the help of his comrades, escape out before the tiger do any harm. While the child still cry and his mother in shock from the fear, the crowd is elated, and a journalist of the guardian, who appears to be there, interview the man, and promise it will make the headline. And it does: “a fascist robs the meal of an immigrant from India unlawfully held in slavery, poison him, then mock him and revel in joy with accomplices while a mother is in shock, her child in cry from the action”
But you have a point: There certainly IS high correlation between hating lies, being skeptic, and holding the guardian in contempt.
Not that the Guardian hold any monopoly on the matter. Unfortunately.


Ivan the Russian troll.
“The Kremlin has masterminded an elaborate scheme to undermine American fossil-fuel production and distribution, concludes a report by the U.S. House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology.
Released March 1, the report, “Russian Attempts to Influence U.S. Domestic Energy Markets by Exploiting Social Media,” reveals how Russia has teamed up with U.S. and European environmental groups to use such popular outlets as Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to turn American public opinion against the domestic oil and natural gas industry”.

The only thing the Kremlin is doing is colluding with the real estate salesman from New York after pumping in illicit money into his – and his grifter son in law’s – failing real estate companies to influence the 2016 election.
It is a very well known fact that Putin hated Clinton’s guts, for supporting anti-Putin sentiment and was determined to prevent her by any means possible from getting into the Presidential office.
Who else hates her so much – the Donald. So his and Putin’s interests were very much aligned.
To say there is a Russian – green alliance conspiracy on fossil fuels is complete B.S. Good attempt to spread fake news my friend.

CFACT – the well-known climate sceptics – could only dream up crappy conspiracy theories like this one:


Poor Ivanklansman. His hate is only matched by hus ignorance.


In Ivan black and white, good versus evil, world, it cannot be possible that Putin both did his best to defeat Clinton AND hinder US and European oil industry
so the well proven fact that Putin’s KGB helped the anti-nuke AKA “better red than dead” pacifists AKA no fracking AKA greens in Germany, UK, Canada and USA (because admitted communists had zero hold there), and the fact that Putin’s Russia had and still has no reason to stop, he mocks “conspiracy theory”…
Likewise, in his fantasy world, there is no way Clinton could had been beaten just because she was just awfully awful (just ask her “friend” Bernie). Must be a conspiracy from Russia.

Bryan A

Wag the Dog
Wag the Dog

Like Father Like Son – a good read.

Steve Borodin

“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”
Charles Darwin
Strange, he didn’t even meet Trudeau.

Peta of Newark

Step back – try see The Big Picture..
How did an (obviously) unthinking, sensation-seeking, adversarial and rabble-rousing little muppet like this rise to the top of the tank?
How did it get to be Prime Minister?
If that is The Prime = The First = The Best, what is going on below that?
How did it happen?
What Went Wrong?
Avid readers will know my thoughts – one word. Sugar
Ehrlich and Malthus were correct. A mass starvation is happening, now and in real time.
But its not like how Hollywood and how everyone therefore expects it to play out.
How on Earth could all these fat and obese people possibly be starving? Look at all the calories they;re getting – never had so many or had it so good.
Peta, you’re off your head!!
Its a starvation of the brain and the mind which affects its thinking and subsequent actions.
We see it everywhere and at least once very day on here. Not only in the stories themselves but the over-reaction to them.
That Oxford professor (Dorkling or whatever his name) was a lovely example. He was only really a priest giving a sermon to his flock, inflicting guilt upon his flock. Exactly as the “Mighty King Canute” learned to do centuries ago -yet the vitriol poured onto the prof was just gobsmacking. Horrible.
Rampant paranoia – over reaction to trivial stimuli
One of these days, someone of Trudeau’s position will say or do something so monumentally dumb, billions of similarly afflicted, zombified & paranoid minds will follow.
It’ll make the proverbial lemmings-off-a-cliff look like a teddy bears picnic


I think it is wonderful that Trudeau has come into power at this time.
Why? Because there is every chance that his absurd utterances will shake Canada to it’s core.
It is very likely that he will utter such obviously provably incorrect information that the voters will revolt.
It happened here in Australia with a bizarre figure called Kevin Rudd. His Party sold their backsides as he just had that whimsy that appealed to the voters.
You know this guy is just so unusual for a Politician, he understands us.
Well unusual was right and I reckon the “peoplekind ” of Canada will do what they did to Mr Rudd and Trudeau will end up a detested wastrel and fool.
I never thought that Rudd could be outdone but Here we have a contender

Mihaly Malzenicky

The situation is very simple and confusing. Trudeau is right about climate change and is totally wrong about the issue of excess liberalism.


Is that the lesson you learned?

Mihaly wrote:
“The situation is very simple and confusing. Trudeau is right about climate change and is totally wrong about the issue of excess liberalism.”
I agree that your statement IS very confusing. In fact, young Justin is utterly wrong about CO2-driven global warming being dangerous, and his so-called “excess liberalism” exists alongside his open admiration for brutal dictatorships in Cuba and China.
Hmmm… … Cuba, … China, and … Canada?
Actually, destroying the economy is one of the classic tactics of dictators when they want to consolidate control. Then they institute martial law and often execute those who oppose them, blaming them for the terrible economic mess; then they live like kings on top of the disaster that once was a prosperous country.
Examples abound:
Stalin in the Former Soviet Union (FSU), all the FSU vassal states, Mao in China, Pol Pot in Cambodia, the Kim’s in North Korea, Castro in Cuba, many countries in South America, many countries in in sub-Saharan Africa – it’s a long and tragic list.
Based on his actions and his inactions, young Justin is quite far down this destructive road. He is destroying through inaction our vital energy industry, the basis of our economy. In the past ~60 years, Alberta’s energy industry has financed the entire country. Through federal tax transfer payments to the Rest-of-Canada, each Alberta family has donated about one million current dollars (when nominal interest is included) to other provinces and territories. The only precedent for this sort of wanton economic destruction was Justin’s father, Pierre, when he instituted the catastrophic National Energy Program in 1980. Like father, like son.

Robert of Ottawa

Doesn’t this twit understand that some people still actually listen to his utterances.
What an embarassment.

Robert – don’t you think he has speechwriters?
Somewhere in a backroom there are people screaming with laughter:
“You mean he actually said what we wrote? What an idiot! I got it! Next let’s have him compare female genital mutilation to climate deniers – he’ll never fall for that! Nobody is that stupid, not even Justin! What??? He already said it?? OMG!!!!!”


The poster child of identity politics hack and climate reactionary dares to pose as a uniter.
He must have a poor memory as to how people see his dress up and pretend games.

Bilingual putain. Trudeau fils de pute. Bordel de merde!

These may be literal translations, but only “merde” is accurate.
I cannot say more without risking the corruption of young minds that read wattsup.


that’s not even literal translation.

brain cramp – I meant to say colloquial, not literal.

Steve O

I’d bet $100 that Justin would be unable to articulate the mainstream “denier” position. And I’d bet another $50 that he’ll never be challenged to do so.
[?? US or Canadian 50.00? .mod]

Could be that Trudeau is a Pachauri disciple?