Monday Mirthiness: Climate Lessons from King Canute

Guest humor by Viv Forbes, Washpool   Qld Australia

Climate Aristocrats and Bureaucrats from 190 nations are meeting in Bonn, dreaming up rules to “prevent the globe from warming more than 2°C”.

They have forgotten the lesson of mighty King Canute – he demonstrated that not even his great power could control nature by rolling back the tide.

Credit for this Image of Canute: Wikipedia

Changing Climate is the natural state on Earth.

Just 12,000 years ago the Earth warmed quickly by over 10°C, the great ice sheets melted, and sea levels rose dramatically. Then it got cold again.

Temperatures then fluctuated over a range of about 5°C during the Egyptian Warm period, the Roman Warm period, the Dark Ages Mini Ice Age, the Medieval Warm period and the grim times of the Little Ice Age. We are fortunate to live in the fruitful Modern Warm Era and global temperatures are probably near the top for this climate cycle.

None of the warm eras were caused by man’s use of coal, gas, or petroleum or by bovine emissions. And none of the cold eras were triggered by mandating more windmills, taxing open fires or following emission targets set in Bonn, Brussels, Rio or Rome.

This is their 48th futile talk-fest.

It’s time the Climate Aristocrats admitted they cannot predict or control climate, they have harmed consumers (especially the world’s poorest people), and they are achieving nothing useful for the environment.

They should mount their zero-emission bicycles and go home immediately.

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May 7, 2018 11:36 am

How do persuade 190 nations to face reality and accept the natural order of events ??

Ralph Knapp
Reply to  GucciPJC
May 7, 2018 11:43 am

As long as governments can use this propaganda to justify carbon taxes, etc., we’re hooked for taxes on the air we breath.

Reply to  GucciPJC
May 7, 2018 12:23 pm

Have none of these people ever heard of the fact that this Earth, whose climate they are trying to fine tune, has its destiny sealed by the ultimate death throes of our mother star? 2 degrees doesn’t seem all that bad when compared the fireball that will consume the four inner planets at that time in the distant future. In the interim, let’s enjoy life plus or minus a few degrees. We’ve proven to be quite an adaptable lot in the past, and I’m sure our progeny will figure things out if it gets a little warmer.

Reply to  Trebla
May 7, 2018 4:17 pm

Before that time of red sun Sol arrives, the Milky Way Galaxy and the Andromeda Galaxy will begin colliding.
All possible ramifications to Earth are dangerous to disastrous.

Reply to  GucciPJC
May 7, 2018 12:24 pm

Sorry, but global warming is real, it’s man made, and it’s worse than we thought. The only way to avoid certain doom is to adopt a global Marxist government.

Reply to  RH
May 7, 2018 12:43 pm

A magic coincidence here since RH’s comment manages to appear adjacent to the link to the book ‘Climate Change – the facts 2017’.

David Walton
Reply to  RH
May 7, 2018 1:30 pm

Re RH “Sorry, but global warming is real, it’s man made, and it’s worse than we thought. The only way to avoid certain doom is to adopt a global Marxist government.”
Dude, I soooooo I agree. Global communist totalitarianism is the only way to save the planet from certain doom. Stalin, Mao, Castro, Khmer Rouge, North Korea, Venezuela and modern Communist China come to mind. So do Greens and Democrats. These folks need a global summit to work out the details.

John in Oz
Reply to  RH
May 7, 2018 2:59 pm

RH – don’t be shy about adding your position within the party to your name tag.
As ‘Commissar RH’, it will be your duty to ensure that the commoners toe the line while you, of necessity due to the heavy workload, have to suffer a higher standard of living, freedom and use of resources.
The whippings will stop when moral improves could be your mantra.

John in Oz
Reply to  RH
May 7, 2018 3:01 pm

How can it be ‘worse than we thought’ when ‘the science is settled’?
If the pundits are not getting it right, push them aside and let the adults have a go

Reply to  RH
May 7, 2018 3:19 pm

RH, if you don’t put the /sarc tag on things, people might think you’re serious. Just sayin’….

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  RH
May 8, 2018 6:18 am

There is a new name for global Marxism, and it has been in vogue for a long time – “Scientific Socialism”. What everyone should avoid is that other kind: unscientific socialism, as seen every time the scientific type is tried. It turns out that that average Joe or Tse is not as scientific as they imagine.
Like many science fiction books, the story is far more “scientists step in to save the world from stupid politicians” than “politicians with a clue about science step in to save the day”.
Based on the evidence (which is to take a scientific approach) politicians are remarkably ignorant about the basics of climate science, measurements, uncertainty, norms and how to integrate scientific observations into political processes.

Reply to  RH
May 8, 2018 10:18 am

/sarc wow

Komrade Kuma
Reply to  GucciPJC
May 7, 2018 3:52 pm

Oh, but all those climate luvvies, they’re so feely goody and luvvy fluffy, so Canute!

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Komrade Kuma
May 8, 2018 9:15 am

As is repeatedly pointed out here, King Canute was wise, fully realizing that his royal edicts could not command the seas. His pointing this out ironically, was his attempt to humble and silence the toadies and courtesans that surrounded (and probably infuriated) him.
Donald Trump is the modern equivalent of King Canute. He’s attempting to bring the rent-seekers to heel, or at least get them to exhibit a bit more humility and circumspection in their rush to make doomsday pronouncements.

Reply to  GucciPJC
May 7, 2018 9:21 pm

GucciPJC :
“”How do persuade 190 nations to face reality and accept the natural order of events ??””
they have been “PROMISED” by the UN as their “compensation payment” for “the injustice”
of the DEVELOPED WORLD ( that’s us ! ) for having the audacity to invent the modern
Such a SIN just MUST be punished !!
I live . I breathe . I pollute ……..but GIVE ME STUFF ANYWAY !!

Ralph Knapp
May 7, 2018 11:38 am

The AGW crowd choose to have no historical context further back than the 1960’s because it works for them.

Reply to  Ralph Knapp
May 7, 2018 9:17 pm

They’re still rewritting that bit, slightly abridged version.

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Ralph Knapp
May 8, 2018 9:24 am

The 1960s was when the first Earth Day occurred, and not incoincidentally, tree ring temperature proxy measurements turned themselves off for some unknown reason. But rest assured, they were on and working just fine prior to 1960. Michael Mann and Phil Jones tell us so and they have Ph.Ds, in SCIENCE!

May 7, 2018 11:44 am

They don’t really expect to change the climate, their just in it for the cash and the perks.

Reply to  gunsmithkat
May 7, 2018 11:45 am


Reply to  gunsmithkat
May 7, 2018 4:55 pm

their they’re

Reply to  gunsmithkat
May 7, 2018 10:23 pm

Yes, your rite.

May 7, 2018 11:46 am

One rule they should come up with is instead of having meetings that involve travel, they should meet over the Internet. Considering that that the technology is already in place, they are just wasting fossil fuel and necessarily adding more CO2 to the atmosphere. If they think that the use of fossil fuels is bad then they should stop making use of all goods and services that make use of fossil fuels. After all it is their money that is keeping the fossil fuel companies in business. They need to set the example.

Reply to  willhaas
May 7, 2018 11:53 am

Like I said, they’re just in it for the perks. They are also heavily invested in “Green” industries.

Bryan A
Reply to  willhaas
May 7, 2018 1:46 pm

They also need to ensure that ALL computers, networks, and internet access points used to view the media presentations during the term of the meetings are all 100% renewable energy powered. Zero grid energy allowed!

Tom O
Reply to  willhaas
May 7, 2018 2:56 pm

I’m still trying to sort out this comment about “zero emission bicycles.” I’d bet those nice people fart and breath while peddling those bikes, so no, they aren’t zero emission.

Reply to  Tom O
May 7, 2018 9:49 pm

YeahBut, vegan bike farts are full-bouquet jobbies, veritable perfumed gardens, make the planet like a scented paradise–even their farts are elite. All we have are high-sulphur beer-farts that need a nuclear-powered extraction fan just to detox the lav.

Reply to  willhaas
May 7, 2018 10:57 pm

you don’t understand.
If you meet through internet, you are all alone, you look at the activity from a distance, without fun. You feel outside, en abîme
only in the flesh can you revel in groupthink

Reply to  paqyfelyc
May 8, 2018 3:44 pm

We all have to do our part to reduce our carbon footprint even though there is nor real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rational to support the idea the the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero.

Reply to  willhaas
May 8, 2018 12:44 am

Or put the conference on a island in the Pacific, with no airport and no fossil fuel stores.
Ones arrived, the only way back home is by using renewable energy. ( sail or row )

May 7, 2018 11:49 am

Canute ought to be the talisman of sceptical climate science.

Reply to  HotScot
May 7, 2018 11:51 am

Unless, of course, Al Gore is ~ahem~.

Reply to  HotScot
May 7, 2018 1:34 pm

Not a bad idea.
King Canute had courtiers claiming that a man could order the tide not to come in, and that King Canute was that man. King Canute demonstrated that the tides didn’t obey his command. He then scolded the courtiers.
Now we have snake-oil salesmen going around claiming that mankind can control the climate, if we send enough money their way. Too bad the cure for such hubris is not as simple as standing on the shore and ordering the tide not to come in.

Reply to  HotScot
May 7, 2018 3:41 pm

Can we devise a climate-related test analogous to one of Canute’s courtiers being tied to stake a stake in the sand at low tide in one of Australia’s king tide zones (Derby in WA has 11.8 meter (38+ feet) recorded tides)? With life dependent on his claims of Canute being able to order the tide to stop, it might force a careful examination of what the odds really are!

M Courtney
May 7, 2018 11:53 am

They always admit that whatever they agree is not enough. Yet still they jump through the hoops.
It should be clear to anyone that the point of these conferences is not the climate. Everyone agrees that they aren’t solving that.
The point of the conferences is that they are a jolly good do for those who get on the gravy train.

May 7, 2018 11:57 am

Should we not use the term climate variability rather than climate change? Climate change implies a one-way move, and is fraught with ideological baggage. Variability implies ebb and flow, and assumes, at base, natural processes.

Reply to  BallBounces
May 7, 2018 12:00 pm

Climate changes through natural variability, which fluctuates on cycles of various lengths. Each cycle consists of cycles of weather and climate, practically ad infinitum, from less than a day to more than a billion years.

Tom O
Reply to  Felix
May 7, 2018 2:58 pm

Just remember, climate is weather, but weather isn’t climate.

May 7, 2018 11:58 am

After Copenhagen and Paris, no doubt German prostitutes insisted on their fair share of the ill-gotten wealth spread around by these parasitic drones.

Reply to  Felix
May 7, 2018 10:59 pm

Not sure german prostitutes are german. Except politicians, of course.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  paqyfelyc
May 8, 2018 5:06 am

Guten Abend, mein Name ist Angela Merkel. Ich werde heute Nacht dein Liebeshäschen sein.

Ross King
May 7, 2018 12:06 pm

Has anyone computed the econometrics and Accounting of the AGW Business as if it were a country or corporation?
And how many people does it keep employed? What are its Operating Expenses across the board?

May 7, 2018 12:10 pm

They should learn to use webinars and video conferencing like the rest of us.

May 7, 2018 12:20 pm

Just 12,000 years ago the Earth warmed quickly by over 10°C, the great ice sheets melted, and sea levels rose dramatically. Then it got cold again.
Temperatures then fluctuated over a range of about 5°C during the Egyptian Warm period, the Roman Warm period, the Dark Ages Mini Ice Age, the Medieval Warm period and the grim times of the Little Ice Age.

No, no, no… You are talking about temperature change at the poles. Global temperatures are believed to have changed 3 – 5 °C at glacial termination, and around 1.5 °C from the Holocene Climatic Optimum to the LIA.
Looks like too little, but for the planet those are big changes. The Neoglaciation has a rate of cooling of ~ 0.2 °C/millenium. That’s plenty to make glaciers grow.

Reply to  Javier
May 7, 2018 4:55 pm

Thanks for that comment. You are probably correct. I took those temperature changes from ice core logs.

May 7, 2018 12:26 pm

Climate Aristocrats and Bureaucrats from 190 nations are meeting in Bonn, now as I am sure they did not all ‘fly in’ and are not ‘living it up’ on the taxpayers tab. I think people should cut them some slack, they most be after all tired from all that walking.

May 7, 2018 12:29 pm

We don’t need more evidence:

this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal image

Reply to  Javier
May 7, 2018 1:11 pm

I’m sure someone alarmist would have had a frothy fit if the sea level rose by over a cm in one year.
Guess that graph is wrong.

May 7, 2018 1:08 pm

I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them?
Why, I can teach you, cousin, to command
The devil
And I can teach thee, coz, to shame the devil—
By telling the truth. Tell truth and shame the devil.
Henry The Fourth, Part I Act 3, scene 1, 52–58

May 7, 2018 1:34 pm

When you have 98% of the countries being targeted as recipients of climate “wealth redistribution” what do you think they’ll be voting for?

May 7, 2018 1:42 pm

The “zero emission” bicycle is actually powered by a motor that discharges nearly a kg per day of the pollutant CO2, at 48,000 ppm concentration.
If it is a bean fueled Vegan model, there is also the even more deadly methane emitted.

May 7, 2018 1:55 pm

There is no such thing as an “zero emmision” bicycle. They should walk!

Reply to  Phaedrus
May 7, 2018 2:36 pm

Even if our putative Masters walk, they will still emit CO2.
And probably also sweat and methane, too.
Incontinent (self-appointed) ‘role-models’!

May 7, 2018 3:32 pm

They don’t give a crap about the climate. You know it. I know it. They’re all there figuring out ways to soak more cash out of the suckers who run various governments. This is SOOOO obviously avaricious, it’s ridiculous.
My little black cat is a bocadious mouser. She is smarter than all these bozos put together. She knows where the various registers are for the furnace and hangs out when she’s chilly.
Warming? (snorrttt!) It was cold enough to make the squirrels stay in their toasty nests this morning. I’m still running the furnace to bump up the indoor temperature in the morning. Warming, my fat Aunt Harriet. Those greedy, self-serving doofuses are welcome to spend a night with no sleeping bags, blankets or tents on my front lawn. It ain’t global warming. The arrogance they manifest is indicative of denial of reality.
Rant over!

Reply to  Sara
May 12, 2018 8:37 am

No, I don’t actually know it for sure. I think it’s unlikely that they are all just evil people who eat kittens for lunch and steal candy from children. Some of them do believe that what they are doing is somehow useful in “saving the planet”. And who could blame them? After all, that’s what media and “consensus science” tells them every day!

Patrick MJD
May 7, 2018 5:12 pm

“This is their 48th futile talk-fest.”
These are more than talk-fests. The local sex trade does very well during these times.

May 8, 2018 9:36 am

Lewis Carroll would particularly like the following quoted silliness from Bonn: “If we are going to ramp up ambition, then we need to ensure the fossil fuel industries are kept out these talks.”
Pascoe Sabido, Corporate Europe Observatory

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