Is climate alarmist consensus about to shatter?

Foreword by Paul Driessen

A new study by climatologists Nicholas Lewis and Judith Curry concludes that Earth’s “equilibrium climate sensitivity” (ECS) to more atmospheric carbon dioxide is as much as 50% lower than climate alarmists have been claiming. That their paper was published in the Journal of Climate  suggests that the asserted “97% consensus” of climate experts may be eroding.

Or as Cornwall Alliance founder Cal Beisner puts it (paraphrasing Winston Churchill) it may not be the beginning of the end of climate alarmism. But it could be the end of the beginning of alarmism as the dominant, ever-victorious tenet of our times.

Indeed, say other noted climatologists, there are good reasons to think ECS and alarmist errors are even greater than 50 percent. For one thing, there is no persuasive reason to assume our planet’s climate system and deep ocean temperatures were ever in “energy balance” back in the late 1800s – so we can’t know whether or how much they might be “out of balance” today. Moreover, solar, volcanic and ocean current variations could be sufficient to explain all the global warming over the period of allegedly anthropogenic warming – which means there is no global warming left to blame on carbon dioxide.

If this is indeed the case, there is no justification for the punitive, job-killing, poverty-prolonging energy policies that “climate consensus” and “renewable energy” proponents have been demanding.


Is climate alarmist consensus about to shatter?

Is this the Beginning of the End – or at least the End of the Beginning?

E. Calvin Beisner

On November 10, 1942, after British and Commonwealth forces defeated the Germans and Italians at the Second Battle of El Alamein, Winston Churchill told the British Parliament, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”

In The Hinge of Fate, volume 3 of his marvelous 6-volume history of World War II, he reflected, “It may almost be said, ‘Before Alamein we never had a victory. After Alamein we never had a defeat’.”

The publication of Nicholas Lewis and Judith Curry’s newest paper in The Journal of Climate reminds me of that. The two authors for years have focused much of their work on figuring out how much warming should come from adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. In this paper they conclude that it’s at least 30% and probably 50% less than climate alarmists have claimed for the last forty years.

In fact, there are reasons to think the alarmists’ error is even greater than 50 percent. And if that is true, then all the reasons for drastic policies to cut carbon dioxide emissions – by replacing coal, oil and natural gas with wind and solar as dominant energy sources – simply disappear. Here’s another important point.

For the last 15 years or more, at least until a year or two ago, it would have been inconceivable that The Journal of Climate would publish their article. That this staunch defender of climate alarmist “consensus science” does so now could mean the alarmist dam has cracked, the water’s pouring through, and the crack will spread until the whole dam collapses.

Is this the beginning of the end of climate alarmists’ hold on climate science and policy, or the end of the beginning? Is it the Second Battle of El Alamein, or is it D-Day? I don’t know, but it is certainly significant. It may well be that henceforth the voices of reason and moderation will never suffer a defeat.

Shattered Consensus: The True State of Global Warming was edited 13 years ago by climatologist Patrick J. Michaels, then Research Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia and the State Climatologist of Virginia; now Senior Fellow in Environmental Studies at the Cato Institute. Its title was at best premature.

The greatly exaggerated “consensus” – that unchecked human emissions of carbon dioxide and other “greenhouse” gases would cause potentially catastrophic global warming – wasn’t shattered then, and it hasn’t shattered since then. At least, that’s the case if the word “shattered” means what happens when you drop a piece of fine crystal on a granite counter top: instantaneous disintegration into tiny shards.

However, although premature and perhaps a bit hyperbolic, the title might have been prophetic.

From 1979 (when the National Academy of Sciences published “Carbon Dioxide and Climate: A Scientific Assessment”) until 2013 (when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change published its “5th Assessment Report” or AR5), “establishment” climate-change scientists claimed that – if the concentration of carbon dioxide (or its equivalent in other “greenhouse” gases) doubled – global average surface temperature would rise by 1.5–4.5 degrees C, with a “best estimate” of about 3 degrees. (That’s 2.7–8.1 degrees F, with a “best” of 5.4 degrees F.)

But late in the first decade of this century, spurred partly by the atmosphere’s failure to warm as rapidly as the “consensus” predicted, various studies began challenging that conclusion, saying “equilibrium climate sensitivity” (ECS) was lower than claimed. As the Cornwall Alliance reported four years ago:

“The IPCC estimates climate sensitivity at 1.5˚C to 4.5˚C, but that estimate is based on computer climate models that failed to predict the absence of warming since 1995and predicted, on average, four times as much warming as actually occurred from 1979 to the present. It is therefore not credible. Newer, observationally based estimates have ranges like 0.3˚C to 1.0˚C (NIPCC 2013a, p. 7) or 1.25˚C to 3.0˚C – with a best estimate of 1.75˚C (Lewis and Crok 2013, p. 9). Further, “No empirical evidence exists to support the assertion that a planetary warming of 2°C would be net ecologically or economically damaging” (NIPCC 2013a, p. 10).” [Abbreviated references are identified here.]

However, most of the lower estimates of equilibrium climate sensitivity were published in places that are not controlled by “consensus” scientists and thus were written off or ignored.

Now, though, a journal dead center in the “consensus” – the American Meteorological Society’s Journal of Climate – has accepted a new paper, “The impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity,” by Nicholas Lewis and Judith Curry. It concludes that ECS is very likely just 50–70% as high as the “consensus” range. (Lewis is an independent climate science researcher in the UK. Curry was Professor and Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and now is President of the Climate Forecast Applications Network.)

Here’s how Lewis and Curry summarize their findings in their abstract, with the takeaways emphasized:

“Energy budget estimates of equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) and transient climate response (TCR) [increase in global average surface temperature at time of doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentration, i.e., 70 years assuming 1% per annum increase in concentration] are derived based on the best estimates and uncertainty ranges for forcing provided in the IPCC Fifth Assessment Scientific Report (AR5).

“Recent revisions to greenhouse gas forcing and post-1990 ozone and aerosol forcing estimates are incorporated and the forcing data extended from 2011 to 2016. Reflecting recent evidence against strong aerosol forcing, its AR5 uncertainty lower bound is increased slightly. Using a 1869–1882 base period and a 2007−2016 final period, which are well-matched for volcanic activity and influence from internal variability, medians are derived for ECS of 1.50 K (5−95%: 1.05−2.45 K) and for TCR of 1.20 K (5−95%: 0.9−1.7 K). These estimates both have much lower upper bounds than those from a predecessor study using AR5 data ending in 2011.

Using infilled, globally-complete temperature data gives slightly higher estimates; a median of 1.66 K for ECS (5−95%: 1.15−2.7 K) and 1.33 K for TCR (5−95%:1.0−1.90 K). These ECS estimates reflect climate feedbacks over the historical period, assumed time-invariant.

Allowing for possible time-varying climate feedbacks increases the median ECS estimate to 1.76 K (5−95%: 1.2−3.1 K), using infilled temperature data. Possible biases from non-unit forcing efficacy, temperature estimation issues and variability in sea-surface temperature change patterns are examined and found to be minor when using globally-complete temperature data. These results imply that high ECS and TCR values derived from a majority of CMIP5 climate models are inconsistent with observed warming during the historical period.

A press release from the Global Warming Policy Forum quoted Lewis as saying, “Our results imply that, for any future emissions scenario, future warming is likely to be substantially lower than the central computer model-simulated level projected by the IPCC, and highly unlikely to exceed that level.”

Veteran environmental science writer Ronald Bailey commented on the new paper in Reason, saying: “How much lower? Their median ECS estimate of 1.66°C (5–95% uncertainty range: 1.15–2.7°C) is derived using globally complete temperature data. The comparable estimate for 31 current generation computer climate simulation models cited by the IPCC is 3.1°C. In other words, the models are running almost two times hotter than the analysis of historical data suggests that future temperatures will be.

“In addition, the high-end estimate of Lewis and Curry’s uncertainty range is 1.8°C below the IPCC’s high-end estimate.” [emphasis added]

Cornwall Alliance Senior Fellow Dr. Roy W. Spencer (Principal Research Scientist in Climatology at the University of Alabama-Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for NASA’s satellite global temperature monitoring program) commented on the paper. Even Lewis and Curry’s figures make several assumptions that are at best unknown and quite likely false. He noted:

“I’d like to additionally emphasize overlooked (and possibly unquantifiable) uncertainties: (1) the assumption in studies like this that the climate system was in energy balance in the late 1800s in terms of deep ocean temperatures; and (2) that we know the change in radiative forcing that has occurred since the late 1800s, which would mean we would have to know the extent to which the system was in energy balance back then.

“We have no good reason to assume the climate system is ever in energy balance, although it is constantly readjusting to seek that balance. For example, the historical temperature (and proxy) record suggests the climate system was still emerging from the Little Ice Age in the late 1800s. The oceans are a nonlinear dynamical system, capable of their own unforced chaotic changes on century to millennial time scales, that can in turn alter atmospheric circulation patterns, thus clouds, thus the global energy balance. For some reason, modelers sweep this possibility under the rug (partly because they don’t know how to model unknowns).

“But just because we don’t know the extent to which this has occurred in the past doesn’t mean we can go ahead and assume it never occurs.

“Or at least if modelers assume it doesn’t occur, they should state that up front.

“If indeed some of the warming since the late 1800s was natural, the ECS would be even lower.”

With regard to that last sentence, Spencer’s University of Alabama research colleague Dr. John Christy and co-authors Dr. Joseph D’Aleo and Dr. James Wallace published a paper in the fall of 2016 (revised in the spring of 2017). It argued that solar, volcanic and ocean current variations are sufficient to explain all the global warming over the period of allegedly anthropogenic warming, leaving no global warming to blame on carbon dioxide.

At the very least, this suggests that indeed “some of the warming since the late 1800s was natural” – which means the ECS would be even lower than Lewis and Curry’s estimate.

All of this has important policy implications.

Wisely or not, the global community agreed in the 2015 Paris climate accords to try to limit global warming to at most 2 C degrees – preferably 1.5 degrees – above pre-Industrial (pre-1850) levels.

If Lewis and Curry are right, and the warming effect of CO2 is only 50–70% of what the “consensus” has said, cuts in CO2 emissions need not be as drastic as previously thought. That’s good news for the billions of people living in poverty and without affordable, reliable electricity. Their hope for electricity is seriously compromised by efforts to impose a rapid transition from abundant, affordable, reliable fossil fuels to diffuse, expensive, unreliable wind and solar (and other renewable) as chief electricity sources.

Moreover, if Spencer (like many others who agree with him) is right that the assumptions behind ECS calculations are themselves mistaken … and Christy (like many others who agree with him) is right that some or all of the modern warming has been naturally driven – then ECS is even lower than Lewis and Curry thought. That would mean there is even less justification for the punitive, job-killing, poverty-prolonging energy policies sought by the “climate consensus” community.

Regardless, we’re coming closer and closer to fulfilling the prophecy in Michaels’ 2005 book. The alarmist “consensus” on anthropogenic global warming is about to be shattered – or at least eroded and driven into a clear minority status.


E. Calvin Beisner, Ph.D., is Founder and National Spokesman of The Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation.

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John Garrett
May 2, 2018 4:05 am

Hope for the best, expect the worst.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  John Garrett
May 2, 2018 8:33 am

The MSM enablers of the “consensus” in the media are in trouble.
The old media is dying (CNN has had a porn star’s lawyer on 29 times in less than a month).
The new media is dying. Getting clickbait articles written for free by starry-eyed interns while you rake in the advertising bucks is so 2017.
So, yes, there is hope. The last frontier will be social media, and more and more people are logging off that.
All they’ll have left (so to speak) is late night “comedy”, and eventually that will turn on them.

wws
Reply to  John Garrett
May 2, 2018 8:46 am

yes – I would say that this will have no effect on the movement at all. Because the movement is not about “Science” it has never been about science. That was just the vehicle to advance a political agenda, and this is a purely political fight. No numbers on paper will have even the slightest effect on the politics of this issue. The political wing has advanced far enough to not need the supposed “scientific” excuses it used at the beginning to empower it.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  wws
May 2, 2018 9:00 am

We have to change a good number of politicians first.

StephenP
Reply to  wws
May 2, 2018 10:16 am

I have just finished rereading ‘How To Lie With Statistics’ by Darrell Huff. Originally published in 1954 it is well worth reading. A quote gives an example of how he shows the need to be wary of statistics
“Even the man in academic work may have a bias (possibly unconscious) to favour, a point to prove, an axe to grind. This suggests giving statistical material, the facts and figures in newspapers and books, magazines and advertising, a very sharp second look before accepting any of them.”

texasjimbrock
Reply to  wws
May 2, 2018 10:30 am

I once read that although figures do not lie, liars figure.

Reply to  wws
May 2, 2018 11:49 am

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”

Reply to  wws
May 2, 2018 11:53 am

“No numbers on paper will have even the slightest effect on the politics of this issue. The political wing has advanced far enough to not need the supposed “scientific” excuses it used at the beginning to empower it.”
True enough; however, when enough constituents realise they’ve been taken for an expensive ride and their voting preferences swing accordingly, the political wing either adapts (by jumping clear of the train wreck about to happen) or they cling ever tighter to their gravy train as it derails and become an unelectable irrelevance in the process (just as the cheer squad in the lame stream media who can’t let it go are already are losing relevance).

Kristi Silber
Reply to  wws
May 2, 2018 11:58 pm

There are two political wings. One uses science to support its claims, the other spreads distrust of science to support its claims.

ScienceABC123
Reply to  John Garrett
May 2, 2018 2:34 pm

The worst I expect… Alarmists are nearly all progressives/leftists, as such they never admit they’re wrong about anything. So no, the consensus is not about to shatter.
The best I hope for… I’m wrong and the alarmists admit they’re wrong.

Reply to  John Garrett
May 2, 2018 3:03 pm

Just get rid of the policy based climate science? And UNFCCC and IPCC.

rh
May 2, 2018 4:08 am

AGW has taken on the properties of a religion, or at the very least a belief system, so the scientific consensus doesn’t matter any more.

Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 4:36 am

Scientific consensus has never mattered before for scientific progress. Science is (or should be) a meritocracy, not a democracy.

dodgy geezer
Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 8:07 am

Actually, progess is pretty much the opposite of consensus….

MarkW
Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 8:38 am

To use an old quote: Science advances one funeral at a time.

Reply to  MarkW
May 2, 2018 8:45 am

Max Planck’s words. The old guard always resists change because their curriculum and their mental frame rests on the old science.

AGW is not Science
Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 10:39 am

Or as Michael Chricton put it, “If it’s consensus, it isn’t science; if it’s science, it isn’t consensus.”

Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 4:38 am

In fact, it was never about science to begin with. It was was about Earthday values merged with huge rent seeking opportunity and globalist cronyism.

Tom in Denver
Reply to  cwon14
May 2, 2018 7:36 am

I agree, Years ago, globalists found AGW to be the perfect means to the ends of creating a global government. In Michael Crichton’s book about the Global Warming Scam he had collected a bunch of data in the appendix at the end of the book. He conducted a Nexus search on when certain global warming keywords (such as unprecedented) had started appearing in literature. Surprisingly these keywords had suddenly began appearing within a year after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Ya think there might be a connection?

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 4:40 am

Well said.

Sara
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 5:33 am

As someone else indicated last week, AGW is a cult. It demands unquestioning obeisance to its rules, or else – OUTCAST!!!
I hope Lewis & Curry are heading in the right direction, and that “others” will pay attention.

RH
Reply to  Sara
May 2, 2018 6:20 am

Unfortunately, Curry has been branded a heretic. Heretics are often proven right, but not usually until long after they’re dead.

Tim
Reply to  Sara
May 2, 2018 7:08 am

Right direction; wrong strategy.
The ‘others’ will only pay attention if the legitimate scientific community realizes that they also must play by the P/R dogmas that are being used against them –
Keep the message simple and keep repeating it / Make it emotional / Don’t allow debates / Demonize the opposition.

WXcycles
Reply to  Sara
May 2, 2018 7:24 am

Sara, I ment to post this comment in here, but it dropped to the botton of page.
WXcycles on May 2, 2018 at 7:20 am

Hivemind
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 5:55 am

I have long contended that CAGW is a full-on religion. It has a dogma, followers, a heirarchy of experts that will tell the followers what to believe. It even excommunicates followers that transgress against the dogma.

RH
Reply to  Hivemind
May 2, 2018 6:17 am

There are also climate sins, redemption, tithing, the inquisition, and every other aspect of a religion. We “deniers” are as likely to change minds as an atheist at church.

WXcycles
Reply to  Hivemind
May 2, 2018 7:36 am

They still need to scourge and crucify Mann though.

dodgy geezer
Reply to  Hivemind
May 2, 2018 8:08 am

…And they have a large bowl for donations…

JJB MKI
Reply to  Hivemind
May 2, 2018 9:28 am

I would say ‘cult’ over religion – it displays exactly the same characteristics and tactics designed to keep the faithful in line, hostile and impervious to any outside reason. The principal of these is to control the narrative inside the organisation. A paper from an established, well regarded scientist (albeit a ‘denier’) likely stands more chance of penetrating the faithful’s consciousness if left rumbling away outside the the walls.
Call me cynical, but if you publish the paper, you can do a more effective (and controlled) hatchet job on it – maybe complete with false apologies, editorial resignations and a retraction..

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Hivemind
May 2, 2018 9:53 am

I believe in the scientific method Test a hypothesis with well measured data. Climate science has not done that . Instead they have used computer models to push their religion. Science is dying because of it.

Trebla
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 6:05 am

Unfortunately, the people who set policy don’t have a clue when it comes to understanding even the most basic concepts of climate science. They simply accept the so-called “consensus” as gospel and never bother to question any of it. Religion 101.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 6:06 am

The well meaning concern of a few environmental worryworts was co-opted by Socialists to destroy Capitalism.

J Mac
Reply to  John Harmsworth
May 2, 2018 9:02 am

Just so, John! +100!

commieBob
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 7:31 am

Yep. When actual science contradicts its cherished beliefs, the liberal left is extremely anti-science. link
If it could be conclusively demonstrated that burning fossil fuels was completely beneficial to the environment with no harms at all (I know this isn’t the case), the liberal left would turn against, or at best ignore, the science in an instantaneous step function. It would be like throwing a switch. BAM!

Caligula Jones
Reply to  rh
May 2, 2018 8:26 am

That’s about it.
In science, you eventually have to show your work. If your science is truly science, your projections will get better, not (like climate “science”), worse.
Only religion accepts things on faith.
Kinda reminds me of this guy (yes, may be a coincidence, but still…)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/biotech-engineer-found-dead-in-sensory-deprivation-tank-in-dc/2018/05/01/ad767c6e-4d69-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.bd6c777d97d4

MarkW
Reply to  Caligula Jones
May 2, 2018 8:42 am

Even in religious debates, you are expected to ground your arguments in Biblical passages, and then show why your interpretation is the correct one.

wws
Reply to  Caligula Jones
May 2, 2018 8:50 am

“In science, you eventually have to show your work. If your science is truly science, your projections will get better, not (like climate “science”), worse.
Only religion accepts things on faith.”
That’s one of the big reasons the Left hates Scott Pruitt and is trying to manufacture a “scandal” to take him out. He’s directed that the EPA only be allowed to use studies for which the data are published and can be examined.
The Left demands that the conclusions of any “Study” they support be taken on Faith, and that NO ONE be allowed to see the actual data used.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  rh
May 3, 2018 5:27 am

Not a religion, an excuse.

Doug
May 2, 2018 4:11 am

All it will take to bring alarmism into prominence again is a really hot summer on the east coast. The media doesn’t like to sweat 🙂

High Treason
May 2, 2018 4:13 am

Even more suspect is the way debate is crushed. If there is a hint that the science is flawed, it must be reviewed. REAL science does not let anything just go through to the keeper because some refuse to debate.
The “consensus” is very shaky- it relies on semantic manipulation and suspect questions.

LdB
Reply to  High Treason
May 3, 2018 1:17 am

More over you mean avoiding the hard questions. You see it with classical physics when it confronts Quantum Mechanics and it’s all shown to be wrong. I bet if we ran a consensus survey on classical physics it would get up.
There used to be a consensus that Earth is flat and the centre of the universe and those arguing against it were physically burned alive. Nothing much has changed in Climate Science.

Tom Gelsthorpe
May 2, 2018 4:19 am

Short answer: No, the climate alarmist consensus is NOT about to shatter. It’s taken on many aspects of a new religion, with aggressive proselytizing, a list of sins to avoid — or pretend to avoid — and hideous scenarios for everything from Rocky Mountain rodents to walruses to New England suburbanites, if the sinning continues.
The climate change priesthood is making too much money and garnering too much adulation to quit their schtick. There is a chance, however, that the marginally interested public will get doomsday fatigue and stop listening. But with 7 billion people in the world and most Western media sympathetic, the alarmist elite can continue to run their show at a juicy profit for quite some time. Half a billion in perpetual panic are enough to keep Al Gore, Bill McKibben, James Hansen, Naomi Klein, et alia in clover.

Rah
Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
May 2, 2018 4:54 am

They can and will continue but it is becoming clear that their influence and ability to drive policy with their meme is wanning.
For example here in the US Ford recently announced it’s ending production of most of it’s midsized sedan and compact models because people want larger vehicles like trucks and SUVs. Honda’s Accord sales are miserable despite the boost of being named car of the year. Tesla most likely won’t have the cash to make it through this year.
I look on those developments and many others as evidence that the scam is in decline and that the indoctrination of mellinials by academia has not stuck.

Rah
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 5:06 am

Hey mod. No reason to hold my post on vehicle sales indicating the decline of the alarmist meme.

MarkW
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 8:43 am

The word “sc@m” will always send your post into moderation.

richard
Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
May 2, 2018 5:00 am

As long as it keeps a cap on the wasted money invested in the scam maybe that is all we can hope for. Labour banged away around 12 billion on a wasted NHS computer system a few years back so where ever you look there are cranks wasting money.

Reply to  richard
May 2, 2018 6:51 am

richard
Good point on the NHS computer system.
It also illustrates that spending on renewable’s won’t stop for a long time. Politicians can have their noses rubbed in the facts for a long time before they take any notice.
Part of the problem is, of course, that they have awarded contracts and promised subsidies for decades to come just to attract industry to provide what is otherwise a wholly unprofitable means of power generation.
Nor will the current government, nor the current opposition want to admit they were both wrong during their continuing political tenure. The breakthrough will come when the scientific case proving AGW is nonsense gathers support from the public and the media and an enterprising political candidate spots that and makes it central to a run for political leadership. This is pretty well true across Europe.
The USA already has that leadership candidate and as they say, when America sneezes, Europe catches a cold (paraphrasing).
The BBC published a report: ‘Rising levels of ‘frustration’ at UN climate stalemate’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43949423 which demonstrates the chaos the Paris Treaty is descending into.
Once again, a climate agreement heading for the rocks, and with growing awareness across the western world of the cost of renewable’s to the individual, expensive, lavish, international climate conferences may become a thing of the past quite soon.

Sommer
Reply to  richard
May 2, 2018 8:12 am

According to Charles Ortel, a financial tax fraud investigator, who is exposing the Clinton ‘Climate Initiatives’ as part of a series(now more than 70 episode) on Jason Goodman’s ‘Crowdsource the Truth 2 on youtube’, there is plenty of evidence to warrant full investigations. Check out ‘Green Regs and Scam’. He’s just started this series and there’s much more to come. Charles Ortel thoroughly presents solid evidence for those who could use it to further the cause of putting an end to such fraud.

4 Eyes
May 2, 2018 4:27 am

Shattering is almost instantaneous. Given the stakes – private capital, government capital, private reputations and political reputations – nothing about the consensus will shatter, unless someone can come up with a class action for damages or similar.

Thomas Homer
Reply to  4 Eyes
May 2, 2018 8:04 am

4 Eyes: “Shattering is almost instantaneous”
I’m curious how the practice of bloodletting fell out of favor. I saw some reference that it was still practiced to some degree about 100 years ago. But I imagine there must’ve been some lingering believers. It has to be good for you, it’s been settled science for thousands of years!
Now when we consider that Carbon Dioxide is the lifeblood of life, we can compare the restriction of CO2 emissions with bloodletting. It is exactly the wrong thing to do.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Thomas Homer
May 2, 2018 11:55 am

The ongoing treatment for Polycythemia is a phlebotomy – removal of blood (a procedure very similar to donating blood). I am related to two people who each require a phlebotomy several times a year.

Justin McCarthy
Reply to  Thomas Homer
May 2, 2018 3:33 pm

That would imply that the UN et al are “leeches”. LOL

May 2, 2018 4:32 am

That their paper was published in the Journal of Climate suggests that the asserted “97% consensus” of climate experts may be eroding.

It can be argued that Lewis and Curry are from the 3% camp, so no erosion from that.

For the last 15 years or more, at least until a year or two ago, it would have been inconceivable that The Journal of Climate would publish their article.

Inconceivable to whom? To you? Judith Curry has published previously several articles at The Journal of Climate. Your opinion about The Journal of Climate is unsupported.
I don’t think you can make the point from their article that climate alarmist consensus is eroding. To start there is no consensus on alarmism among scientists to be eroded. Some consensus scientists are very alarmist while others are not. I think that what Patrick J. Michaels meant with “Shattered Consensus: The True State of Global Warming” is that there has never been a consensus, not that there is one that is predicted to break.
The consensus is just propaganda that some people believe and others don’t. The promoters of the global warming scare are not going to dissolve and go home because Lewis and Curry have published a new paper. They’ll just ignore it as they did with the previous one.

Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 4:37 am

Exactly.

Rah
Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 5:03 am

Can’t erode something that never existed. What has erroded is the belief in the veracity of that lie.

Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 5:08 am

You mean that the people that believe it actually read Lewis and Curry 2018 and stop believing?
You have a lot of faith.

Rah
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 5:13 am

No I mean that most of the general public has figured out that it was a lie.

Sara
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 5:36 am

Or maybe some of us knew all along that it was baloney and have acted accordingly.

Rah
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 5:46 am

Yes, those of us that are engaged did. But it took the majority of those not engaged some time.
It was acutully the 97 percent claim which got me engaged in the climate wars and set me on the path to learn about the science and arguments. Because In my experience you couldn’t get that percentage of any segment of the population to agree that the sky is blue on a clear sunny day.

Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 6:32 am

No I mean that most of the general public has figured out that it was a lie.

That statement is unsupported. You have your beliefs. Other people have theirs.
There is no evidence that things are changing in that respect.
The thing is that people think their beliefs are supported while other people’s beliefs are unsupported. That isn’t going to change.

Rah
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 7:01 am

My beliefs are supported by what the general public DOES. They are buying large vehicles and not compacts. They aren’t buying electric cars once the artificial financial incentives are removed. They aren’t buying homes using alternative energy sources even with artificial encentuves. And mutiple polls over time have made it abundantly clear that “climate change” is at or very near the bottom of the list of their concerns and that they are unwilling to spend any significant proportion of their income to fight climate change.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 7:28 am

Rah v Javier: I think Rah (and big SUVs) wins this one.

Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 9:34 am

My beliefs are supported by what the general public DOES.

People consuming habits are not a good guide. Otherwise you must be a strong believer on the goodness of junk food.

Rah
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 10:15 am

If the people took the 97 percent consensus seriously they would change. And their answers on multiple surveys, including even one by the UN make it clear they don’t!

John Endicott
Reply to  Rah
May 2, 2018 11:22 am

“People consuming habits are not a good guide. Otherwise you must be a strong believer on the goodness of junk food”
Sorry, you analogy falls flat. Peoples junk food habits alone says nothing about the “goodness” of junk food. People do lots of things that aren’t good for them and if asked they readily admit to those not-good habits being not good. Now if you could couple that junk food habit with polls that consistently show consumers think eating junk food is a key part of maintaining a healthy lifestyle, then you might have an analogy worth listening to.
Consumers rejection of “green” “planet saving” alternative-energy vehicles in favor of CO2 spewing gas guzzlers combined with poll after poll consistently showing CAGW as being very low on their list of priorities does suggest that they aren’t buying into the green narrative that the planet is in imminent danger from their SUVs.

Edwin
Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 7:57 am

Javier, do not underestimate what so called “scientific consensus” means in the world of politics and bureaucracies. Sitting before a legislative committee the members really hate when they cannot get “a straight” answer. Having several “experts” before them preaching apparently totally different views of the world drives them nuts. So when someone tells them, and it is repeated regularly in the news media, that there is 95% consensus among scientists on an issue they buy in or at least take the easy way out and do not oppose the consensus. That so called consensus is then supported by radical lobbyists. The elected officials, often in the minority even in their own party, who stand up and say “wait a minute, what the heck is scientific consensus?” is a brave politician. Imagine a Democratic candidate speaking in opposition or just expressing doubts about CAGW. They would cut themselves off from millions of campaign funding from leftist billionaires.

Reply to  Javier
May 2, 2018 12:41 pm

Based on the definitions used in their “consensus” study, I’m fairly sure that this paper would have qualified as part of the 97%.

Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
May 2, 2018 1:02 pm

I’m fairly sure that this paper would have qualified as part of the 97%.

Me too. 100% sure.

Richard M
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
May 3, 2018 7:06 am

I’ve already seen people claiming the paper supports AGW. So yes, it will be deemed supportive of the consensus.

Greg61
May 2, 2018 4:36 am
May 2, 2018 4:36 am

Since the consensus is based on deep cultural politics and not observable science to begin with there is little chance for change. Failure to link the impact of Green culture to the climate enclave borders on obtuse.
A few consensus liberals will leave the reservation over generations but by preserving the facade of “mostly science” instead of focusing on the political culture driver is distracting at best. Climate consensus is driven by a globalist, high government mediation world view (leftist) steeped in Earthday rooted anti-industrial anti-individual collectivism. The war will be won or lost on this point and social acknowledgement.

Shawn Marshall
May 2, 2018 4:38 am

And then its possible the Skydragon people have had it right all along……it was reported by one of them that Dr. Curry, in answer to his challenge, decided to audit a thermo course and gave it up as — too frustrating or something?

LdB
Reply to  Shawn Marshall
May 3, 2018 2:00 am

The problem is there are very few in the field of climate science that have the hard science educational background to actually explain it. The whole argument these days is actually stupid because there are now dozens of meta-materials using the QM effect just google “radiative cooling metamaterial” or “radiative heating metamaterial” it can go either way and you can make or buy them if you want to test it.

May 2, 2018 4:49 am

The cabal of alarmist activist scientist know that the Earth is entering a cooling period and are now positioning themselves accordingly.
We have Jennifer Francis who promote the idea that the supposedly warm Arctic makes the Jetstream to become wavier, while we know from weather/climate history that it is solar inactivity and cold period which cause wavier jet streams.
Michael Mann and Stefan Rahmstorf have recently published research on Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) which they claim now has a slowing trend which started around the beginning of the 19th century caused by the start of the industrial revolution. Give me a break! The cause is a supposed rapid melting of Greenland fresh water. This of course is soon going to cool Europe and North America.
Their results are then promoted by the MSM as facts.

Sara
Reply to  Per Strandberg (@LittleIceAge)
May 2, 2018 5:40 am

Hey, those guys have to keep their cash flow going somehow! And you can be sure that if things happen that countermand their CAGW predictions, they will either remove their previous Alarmist CAGW stuff and replace it with Alarmist COLD stuff.

Rah
Reply to  Sara
May 2, 2018 5:57 am

That would deja Vu all over again.

May 2, 2018 4:51 am

there is no persuasive reason to assume our planet’s climate system and deep ocean temperatures were ever in “energy balance” back in the late 1800s – so we can’t know whether or how much they might be “out of balance” today.

balance : the very term evokes ‘organic’, ‘sustainable’, ‘renewable’, harmony or equality. Almost as if a designer has hard-wired the alarmist brain to seek a mythical harmony, perfect state, or Utopian moment to which they must home back to. Like birds coming home to roost; from which they are alarmed at every being separated.

May 2, 2018 4:52 am

My gut feeling from exposure to many academics is that at least on the science side, they vast majority ‘dont want to talk about it’ and a large number use it to get funding, but reserve their opinions.
Most retiredscientists are on the skeptical side. The more they know about the issues, the more skeptical they seem to be.
The main drive for alarmism comes from politically oriented commentators – mainly of the broad left leaning ‘liberal’ persuasion where it is just another part of the virtue signalling they clothe themselves on to justify their rank abuse of the privilege they accuse others of having, and commercial marketing who exploit environmental issues to render last years model de facto or de jure obsolete (the European union spent a huge amount of time persuading us to buy ‘green’ diesel cars and now is spending its time telling us how polluting they are and taxing them back to oblivion, so we must now buy petrol instead).
It is academically interesting to argue about the science, but it’s not where climate alarmism is at.
The real battle is between monolithic global organisations who are using ‘social justice’ and ‘the environment’ as an excuse to dismantle nations states and cultural constructs that have stood the test of time – half because they want increased profits and half because they want more power to cement their privileges.

May 2, 2018 4:56 am

Here are two emails I sent to the co-authors recently.
From: Allan MacRae
Sent: April-28-18 6:51 AM
To: Nicholas Lewis and Judith Curry
Subject: Questions re you recent paper
The impact of recent forcing and ocean heat uptake data on estimates of climate sensitivity
Nicholas Lewis and Judith Curry
https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI-D-17-0667.1
Abstract
[excerpted]
____________________________________________
Hello Ms Curry and Mr Lewis:
Thank you for your recent paper in Journal of Climate.
Apologies for these questions. Kindly answer if you have the time.
Regards, Allan MacRae, Calgary
Questions re your recent paper
1. Methodology: How does your methodology differ from that of Christy and McNider (2017), which assumes that ALL observed warming (using satellite data from 1979 to mid-2017) is due to increased atmospheric CO2? As such, it seems to me that Christy and McNider are providing an “Upper Bound” of Lower Tropospheric (LT) TCR of 1.1K/(2xCO2), since some or all of this observed warming could be due to natural causes. I see you are using a 1869–1882 base period and a 2007−2016 final period, which must involve Surface Temperature (ST) measurements. Are your results (e.g. 1.66 K for ECS (5−95%: 1.15−2.7 K) and 1.33 K for TCR (5−95%:1.0−1.90 K)) an Upper Bound or an estimated average?
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/2017_christy_mcnider-1.pdf
2. What confidence do you have in the ST data and from what source is it? How have you managed the recent data “adjustments” as described by Tony Heller?
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/alterations-to-climate-data/
3. Would your results be affected if you were to account for the observed close relationship between dCO2/dt and global average temperature, as approximated here?
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/esrl-co2/from:1979/mean:12/derivative/plot/uah5/from:1979/scale:0.22/offset:0.14
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1556510707759819&set=a.1012901982120697.1073741826.100002027142240&type=3&theater
This relationship when integrated shows that atmospheric CO2 trends lag global average temperature trends by about 9 months.
My original January 2008 paper on this relationship is here:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRae.pdf
Spreadsheet at
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRaeFig5b.xls
I later observed a similar correlation between Mauna Loa CO2 and Surface Temperatures back to 1958.
Humlum et al reached similar conclusions in 2013 here:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658
“Highlights:
– Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature.
– Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5–10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature.
– Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature.
– Changes in ocean temperatures explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980.
– Changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.”
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1551019291642294&set=a.1012901982120697.1073741826.100002027142240&type=3&theater
I do not subscribe to the hypo that this data means that most or all of the observed CO2 increase is due to temperature change. Other sources of CO2 such as fossil fuel combustion, deforestation etc could contribute and could predominate, but still the clear dCO2/dt vs temperature relationship remains.
I do suggest that this data proves that temperature drives atmospheric CO2 much more than CO2 drives temperature – otherwise the clear dCO2/dt vs temperature relationship would be drowned out. This leads me to conclude that ECS and TCR must be very low, probably much less than 1K/(2xCO2).
Thank you in advance for your comments.
*********************************************************************************************************
From: Allan MacRae
Sent: April-29-18 9:02 PM
To: Nicholas Lewis and Judith Curry
Subject: RE: Questions re you recent paper
Addendum:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/28/solar-activity-flatlines-weakest-solar-cycle-in-200-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2803244
Summary:
The Equatorial Pacific Ocean has a natural temperature cycle averaging about 36 months peak-to-peak.
Equatorial average air temperature and humidity follow Equatorial Pacific Ocean temperature – about 3 months after the Nino34 SST Anomaly and about 5 months after the East Equatorial Upper Ocean Temperature Anomaly.
Global average air temperature follows Equatorial average air temperature and humidity about 1 month later.
The rate of change atmospheric dCO2/dt varies ~contemporaneously with global average air temperature, and its integral the atmospheric CO2 trend lags the air temperature trend by ~9 months.
Here is the relationship between the ~9-month CO2 lag and the average 36-month cycle in the Equatorial Pacific.
Observations and Conclusions:
I proved in 2008 that dCO2/dt varies ~contemporaneously with global temperature, and its integral CO2 lags temperature by ~9 months.
The integral of the sine curve lags the sine curve by 90 degrees, which equals 1/4 of the 360 degree full cycle.
CO2 lags temperature by about 9 months, therefore this “short” cycle time is about 36 months.
Hypothesis: This approx. 36 month cycle is the Equatorial Pacific -> Global Temperature cycle.
Conclusion: Based on UAH LT peaks, the mean cycle is 36.3 months and the lag is 9.1 months vs the 9 months in my 2008 icecap.us paper.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1658389180905304&set=a.1012901982120697.1073741826.100002027142240&type=3&theater
(The reason why your big comments goes into moderation are the large number of links) MOD

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 2, 2018 8:16 am

Understood – so many links – but I prefer to provide references – thank you for your hard work, mod.

May 2, 2018 4:58 am

I’d like to correct one misconception. Lewis & Curry 2018 does NOT assume that the climate system, and in particular the ocean, was in equilibrium in the mid/late 1800s. Our primary climate sensitivity estimate uses an estimated (downwards) radiative imbalance of +0.15 W/m2 during 1869-1882, as the ocean continued to warm up from a prevously colder period.

Reply to  niclewis
May 2, 2018 5:02 am

Nic and Judith – thank you for this paper. My above question is in moderation – I look forward to your response, if you have the time.

May 2, 2018 5:00 am

I agree with Javier in that the ‘climate consensus’ never existed to begin with and that it’s purely been a propaganda device. It just so happens that the propagandists have nearly complete control of the public megaphone and they use it to their advantage. My guess is that even if the Earth began the descent into another LIA the propagandists would transform their message to fit the changing scenario and that the practitioners of the AGW cult/religion would follow along without missing a beat. We’ve already seen that in action with the change in terminology from ‘Global Warming’ to ‘Climate Change’. Think of all the times throughout history that some charismatic conman who has attracted a huge following by predicting the end of the world. Even when their predictions fail to materialize the followers are slow to give up their beliefs. In short, there’s really no reasoning with unreasonable people and people who are susceptible to cultist thought are unreasonable.
I’ll also assert that any reasonable person should have known that the whole issue was suspect from the beginning because A) A professional politician/conman (Al Gore) became the public face of AGW B) That the assertion that the science, or any science for that matter, was ‘settled’ and C) The ‘debate’ was over. In other words, another end-of-the-world doomsayer preaching the same old song and dance. Even after EVERY PREDICTION has failed to materialize as prophesied the true believers’ faith is unshaken.
The latter two points should have set off the alarm bells for anyone that has even the most modest training in science or even critical thinking! And as far as debating goes, if the science is so solid, robust and undeniable why not accept the challenge of the open debate? If I had a theory that I knew was air tight I’d take on any qualified person willing to debate the topic just to show how solid it really is. In reality, what we have is the exact opposite.

Reply to  JamesWaldo
May 2, 2018 5:09 am

Very good points James.
I was convinced that global warming alarmism was a false alarm when I first heard about it circa 1985. My initial skepticism was based on my two engineering degrees in Earth Sciences. I then studied the science for 17 more years before writing my first article circa 2002.
I am convinced that it is not only false but fraudulent – global warming alarmism is the most expensive scam in the history of humanity.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 2, 2018 7:56 am

Thanks, Allan
I’ve been a geologist since the mid-1990’s. Before then AGW wasn’t quite on my radar screen, but once Al Gore came out as a champion of the theory after losing the presidential election I both became aware of it and knew it was a con. Then they gave Al the Nobel Peace prize for it I suppose in an attempt to give the whole thing credibility, which it did not do. What it did do was destroy the credibility of the whole Nobel prize.

Lokki
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 2, 2018 10:45 am

I have to say that although I have no scientific background beyond the routine college courses, I was pretty sure that the CO2 claims were a scam right from the beginning. My experience shows that organized causes never die; they simply find new dragons to fight. Think of the March Of Dimes created to fund Polio research but still going strong despite Dr. Salk’s vaccine in the early 1950’s. They should have declared victory and folded their tents, leaving the field… but they didn’t. The Anti-pollution crowd found themselves in the same situation by the 1980’s. Pollution had pretty much been defeated or was being defeated in the U.S. from a practical standpoint. Chasing trace levels can only get you so much funding.
So I was in awe of the audacity in proclaiming CO2 – something every human exhales and the life-breath for plants- as the enemy. They chose a Devil that could never be defeated as long as a single Human breathes. Genius. No going out of business this time.
Naturally, they chose to ignore the natural sources of CO2 and instead hooked the all blame to Humankind and particularly to capitalism, as condemning human desire for a more pleasurable and comfortable life has been winning formulation for religions for millennia. Guilt fills collection plates. Forget dancing as a sin – now the very act of breathing is a mortal sin.
Great stuff….

eyesonu
Reply to  JamesWaldo
May 2, 2018 10:13 am

” …. It just so happens that the propagandists have nearly complete control of the public megaphone and they use it to their advantage. …..”
James , you left out the most important point. Those very propagandists have been in control of the grant streams and have attempted to destroy the careers of any that have questioned their ‘wisdom’ or grant streams, not to mention their “elite so-called “climate scientist” status”.
There should be prosecutions in many, many cases for fraud. Therein will lie their conundrum, do they claim ignorance or a party to major fraud.

Reply to  eyesonu
May 2, 2018 11:07 am

You’re right, eyesonu! I forgot to add the purse-strings in with the megaphone!

Reply to  JamesWaldo
May 2, 2018 12:20 pm

James,
I disagree.
The climate consensus that is “97%” was clearly articulated by Dr Judith Curry in her congressional testimony.
The consensus is, “Warming of the Earth’s surface due to anthropogenic CO2 emissions is real”.
That is also where the consensus also ends.
That says nothing about climate sensitivity to additional CO2 forcing, or what percentage of the 1950-2000 period was due to mankind’s CO2 emissions. Despite claims by politicized scientists to contrary, there actually is little consensus there on climate CO2 sensitivity.
The politicized science of climate change though argues that climate sensitivity is above 2 K per doubling of CO2, making it dangerous. All the observational evidence is increasingly making projections above 2.5 K untenable, creating a credibility problem in the Age of Trump and Pruitt at the EPA for the alarmists.
Sensitivity projections in the 3.0 – 4.5 K range are outright laughable at this point, and those who still try to invoke a tuned model output to make that claim are losing any remaining credibility they might have with mainstream science.

Steve
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
May 4, 2018 11:21 am

Joel you lose your credibility card whenever you refer to the fake 97% concensus stat that was derived in the first place. Don’t even reply to this comment until you can accurately state what “methodology” that 97% figure was concocted from. It’s beyond laughable.

May 2, 2018 5:00 am

The calculation and maintenance of these parameters is wrongly taken to imply CO2 causes them.

Reply to  Bob Weber
May 2, 2018 5:33 am

Hi Bob,
Please see my Question 1 in my above post, currently in moderation. In summary:
I believe, correctly or incorrectly, that several such papers (e.g. Lewis and Curry 2018, Christy and McNider 2017) ASSUME for the sake of argument that ~ALL* observed warming is due to increased atmospheric CO2. As such, they are providing an “Upper Bound” or Maximum climate sensitivity.
[* exceptions are the impacts of major volcanoes and possibly a few other major external forcings).
My belief is that mean climate sensitivity is less than ~1.0C/(2xCO2) and probably much less, closer to 0.0 that to 1.0.
Best personal regards, Allan

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 2, 2018 10:35 am

I agree . my calculations are 0.4

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 3, 2018 5:22 am

I think sensitivity is 0 (zero). Especially if the below is true.
In 1954, Hoyt C. Hottel conducted an experiment to determine the total emissivity/absorptivity of carbon dioxide and water vapor11. From his experiments, he found that the carbon dioxide has a total emissivity of almost zero below a temperature of 33 °C (306 K) in combination with a partial pressure of the carbon dioxide of 0.6096 atm cm. 17 year later, B. Leckner repeated Hottel’s experiment and corrected the graphs12 plotted by Hottel. However, the results of Hottel were verified and Leckner found the same extremely insignificant emissivity of the carbon dioxide below 33 °C (306 K) of temperature and 0.6096 atm cm of partial pressure. Hottel’s and Leckner’s graphs show a total emissivity of the carbon dioxide of zero under those conditions.
http://www.biocab.org/Overlapping_Absorption_Bands.pdf
The numbers after certain words are the reference publication numbers in the linked article.

May 2, 2018 5:03 am

Victory for science in the end.
The rules upon which they tried to build their consensus are the same rules which must lead to its downfall.
These rules: Defining simplistic, formulaic terms upon which they demand agreement (97%, ‘climate change’, ‘carbon pollution’). Redefining those terms in practice by trying to dominate the debate. e.g. Such that ‘climate change’ morphs into various projected, man-made, catastrophes. The consensus ‘worked’ because they policed the debate. Taking control of the editorship of journals, the distribution of grants (which itself depends upon previous publication, finding a novel angle to climate change, etc.). Selecting peer-reviewers to make sure papers from ‘our’ consensus side are sympathetically reviewed and papers from the ‘skeptical side’ get hostile reviews. Harassing the media, especially science journalists to blackout skepticism, so, in practice, only alarmism is reported. Recruiting an army of self-styled progressives from Green NGOs and the left to harass everyone in a debate. In practice, they behave like yahoos, not progressives.
Science and scientists, by their nature, reject such policing attempts.

Reply to  mark4asp
May 2, 2018 12:49 pm

Who did I say those yahoos were? Perhaps I should widen the accusation?

A veteran Ph.D. meteorologist with the National Weather Service (NWS) was physically assaulted by NWS Director Louis Uccellini for mentioning “cooling” during a talk about the Earth’s climate in 2014 according to an account provided to CFACT.
“Don’t ever mention the word cooling again,” the agency’s Director warned.

Dave
May 2, 2018 5:24 am

The real problem is that governments incentivizes climate alarmism because it suits their goals of centralizing more power in themselves. Scientists will continue to look for (and find) more support for alarmism as they are rewarded financially and professionally for the behavior. Until this symbiotic relationship is broken, I expect more advocacy dressed up as science for the foreseeable future.

Adam Gallon
May 2, 2018 5:27 am

No, it’s not about to shatter. Only a prolonged (it’ll need over 20 tears) temperature stasis, or cooling, will shatter it. Already repositioning has occurred, “ocean acidification”. No change in temperature, but still a harmful effect of our sinful ways.

Reply to  Adam Gallon
May 2, 2018 5:53 am

Hello Adam,
Global temperatures already declined for about 37 years, from ~1940 to ~1977, even as fossil fuel combustion and atmospheric CO2 accelerated.
Furthermore, John Christy and Richard McNider concluded in their 2017 paper that the upper bound for LT TCS was 1.1C/(2xCO2) [+/- confidence limits], and their credibility is not exceeded in the scientific community.
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/2017_christy_mcnider-1.pdf
This so-called “global warming consensus” is a multi-trillion dollar scam, and it will not be abandoned quickly or easily.

May 2, 2018 5:28 am

I think it would be correct to state that the “consensus” has just been fracked!

MS
May 2, 2018 5:36 am

From my perspective there is no hard evidence of a dominant human contribution to changing climate, no way to separate the “natural” and human signals; and there is no evidence that a warming trend is bad for us.
What we have are a lot of claims, bad science, and fear mongering——just like the witch doctors (and other shaman) used to do to gather power and prestige for themselves when blaming people for making the spirits angry.

Kristi Silber
Reply to  MS
May 2, 2018 11:43 pm

MS,
Well, that’s from your perspective, as you point out. There are other perspectives out there that are based on more information.

Don B
May 2, 2018 5:38 am

No, the alarmism consensus is not about to shatter. The activists have too much invested in their cause to suddenly change their minds – they will be dragged, kicking and screaming.
 “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

May 2, 2018 5:45 am

Is climate alarmist consensus about to shatter?
No. The consensus enforcers are out, rubbishing the new paper and declaring that climate sensitivity is high.
See for example this tweet from Reto Knutti
“Excellent synthesis by Caldwell et al. of 19 modeling studies relating observations to climate sensitivity. Conclusion: climate sensitivity is very unlikely to be low, i.e. future warming from CO2 will not be small.”
https://twitter.com/Knutti_ETH/status/991316831460823041

Reply to  Paul Matthews
May 2, 2018 5:50 am
Reply to  Paul Matthews
May 2, 2018 6:38 am

Dresssler wrote: “So let’s do something simple…”
If you do something simple, such as Christy and McNider (2017) did, you conclude that there is NO evidence that climate is highly sensitive to increasing CO2. Christy and McNider’s calculated LT TCS for the satellite era was 1.1C/(2xCO2), which means that the global warming crisis does NOT exist, except in the fevered minds of extremists.
The warmists will stand on their heads to get another grant or justify another worthless green energy scheme.

Reply to  Paul Matthews
May 2, 2018 8:37 am

Dessler’s critique has already been thoroughly rebuted by Nic Lewis over at Climate Etc.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Paul Matthews
May 2, 2018 10:38 am

What do 19 modelling studies prove? NOTHING

Reply to  Paul Matthews
May 2, 2018 6:23 am

Knutti comment – very knutti – climate models prove nothing = GIGO. Total nonsense.
“Excellent synthesis by Caldwell et al. of 19 modeling studies relating observations to climate sensitivity. Conclusion: climate sensitivity is very unlikely to be low, i.e. future warming from CO2 will not be small.”

DMacKenzie
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 2, 2018 8:43 am

Wow Allan, you are on a roll today starting about 4 AM, the effort you put into your Lewis//Curry letter warmed the air all the way up here to Airdrie…

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 2, 2018 10:56 am

Hello DMackenzie,
A warmer world is a kinder, gentler world.
Best, Allan
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/30/governor-moonbeam-loses-the-plot/comment-page-1/#comment-2804103
[excerpts}
Twenty times more people die from cold than die from heat – about 2 million Excess Winter Deaths every year worldwide – one hundred thousand of them in the good ol’ US of A! That’s two 9-11’s per week for 17 weeks every year!

________________________________________
COLD WEATHER KILLS 20 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE AS HOT WEATHER
By Joseph D’Aleo and Allan MacRae, September 4, 2015
https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-macrae-daleo-4sept2015-final.pdf

DGP
May 2, 2018 5:59 am

I don’t think you’ll ever be able to put an end to the climate change hysteria with facts and logic. It’s now deeply entrenched in leftist political ideology, which has always been impervious to facts and logic.

Rah
Reply to  DGP
May 2, 2018 6:10 am

It is a political tactic/movement and in the end must be defeated in the realm of politics.

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