Steve McIntyre discovers another hockey stick

Steve McIntyre the Canadian mining engineer and math wizard who discovered why Michael E. Mann’s original hockey stick of global temperature data was made of bunkum wood, has now discovered yet another one, and it appears not to use adjusted data, but raw data. This one also indicates temperature, but of a different kind.

It indicates political temperature.

McIntyre writes on Twitter:

a remarkable new Hockey Stick. I’m waiting to see how long it will be until @MichaelEMann cult proclaim this as independent verification of Mann reconstruction of world temperature for past 1000 years.

Robert Barnes @Barnes_Law As Trump has come to realize his inside-the-system lawyers’ initial take on #Mueller (play nice & he will go away when he realizes no collusion) was completely wrong.
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Phil Rae
March 20, 2018 7:15 am

Hockey sticks everywhere! Willis posted one the other day, too! But considering the weather in the Northern Hemisphere, I figure they must be ice hockey sticks! : ]

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Phil Rae
March 20, 2018 7:42 am

Arctic temps have plunged 20K during the past month and now sit below the 44- year- mean temperature for this date (for the first time in years.) The kids may not be so quick to put on their skates for a little after school hockey, down at the frozen ponds, eh?

Reply to  Alan Robertson
March 20, 2018 10:09 am

It is officially Spring right now in northern Spain and it is snowing. So, yes, our kids know what snow is.

meteorologist in research
Reply to  Alan Robertson
March 21, 2018 7:13 pm

Urederra – it’s climate change whether you think it’s a result of human activities or you think the Sun has been that variable. The energy buildup has been enough to push the cold farther south than during most years.

Tom Halla
March 20, 2018 7:28 am

Nice snark

Mark from the Midwest
March 20, 2018 7:36 am

Why am I not surprised?

March 20, 2018 7:40 am

Two Tweets!
One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do.
Two can be as bad as one. It’s the loneliest number since the number one.

Harry Nilsson/Three Dog Night.

Reply to  rovingbroker
March 20, 2018 10:08 pm

2 is more lonely than 1 since it is the smallest, positive prime, and only even prime; while 1 is a factor of all numbers!

Jeff Mitchell
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
March 22, 2018 8:48 am

2 is also an odious number.

Keith J
March 20, 2018 7:40 am

Keep your stick on the ice..SLAPSHOT!

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  Keith J
March 20, 2018 2:26 pm

Preceded by don’t bend over…….and keep your….

Thomas Homer
March 20, 2018 7:41 am

Doesn’t it need a change of data source at the precise point of slope change to be a ‘hockey stick’?

om in Florida
March 20, 2018 7:44 am

The only hockey sticks that matter are in the NHL playoffs, coming soon to an arena near you. Go Bolts!!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  om in Florida
March 20, 2018 7:45 am

Except for Montreal, Detroit and Chicago.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
March 20, 2018 12:12 pm

Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver…

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom in Florida
March 20, 2018 12:42 pm

True Jeff, but I don’t find those fans as obnoxious as the three teams I mentioned so when you get a chance to grind on them you take it.

Reply to  om in Florida
March 20, 2018 5:27 pm

Nope. Not close.
Cornell, ranked #3 nationally and Number 1 seed in the D1 Men’s Northeastern Regional in Worcester, MA., playing BU, winner of Hockey East on Saturday. Doesn’t get any better than that.

March 20, 2018 7:45 am

Looking at the snow cover for the northern hemisphere, above 45 degrees North,does not look like many in Europe, Asia or North America are planting any crops any time soon.

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  Larry
March 20, 2018 7:59 am

I’m right at 45 degrees N, the sign that says “Halfway Between the Equator and North Pole” was just down the road until a drunk driver wiped it out a couple weeks ago. We had a lot of fairly damp snow early in the season and our snow-pack is so deep and dense that the locals are taking bets of snow on the ground until first week of May.

Reply to  Larry
March 20, 2018 9:48 am

It’s not just snow. We had little snow this winter (so far) in Manitoba, but some very cold weather. I talked to a city guy yesterday who was back-hoeing a new sewer line for a house. The frost was down 8 1/2′! Will take a while for that to come out.

David Ball
Reply to  R2Dtoo
March 21, 2018 10:19 am

I spent 40 years in Manitoba. The mandate for foundations or piles was 7 feet for permafrost. I have heard the 8 to 9 foot depths of permafrost penetration from my contractor friends there for a couple of years now. This flies in the face of what alarmists claim is happening.

Reply to  Larry
March 20, 2018 9:44 pm

I wonder if Morocco’s agriculture is heading for a good harvest this year?
Worldview daily animation of Morocco for 1 – 18 March 2000
compared with –
Worldview daily animation of Morocco for 1 – 18 March 2018
It’s an ill wind that blows no one any good.

Jake J
Reply to  Larry
March 20, 2018 11:38 pm

I’m at 45.7N, five miles north of White Salmon, WA, at 1,800 feet. Mild winter, only 20 inches of snow. Makes up for last year’s 100 inches, the worst in several decades. It was 61 degrees today. Spring is definitely here.

March 20, 2018 8:10 am

A typical case of selection bias. It is clear this graph has screened out all negative mentions of Mueller.

J Mac
March 20, 2018 8:17 am

“After 1.5 years, what have you found, Herr Mueller? ”
Welcome Back My Friends, To The Show That Never Ends!
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer

Reply to  ren
March 20, 2018 2:52 pm

Into 2020, imo.

Brett Keane
Reply to  goldminor
March 20, 2018 3:42 pm

March 20, 2018 at 2:52 pm: Brave, but I understand the basis of your courage/foolhardiness, and it is observation and research not whisky. Well, maybe a little…’s cold enough up in the NH. About to start here in NZ too.

Reply to  Brett Keane
March 20, 2018 4:05 pm

Here is the basic reason why I stated that. It has to be more than just a coincidence that every solar minimum aligns with a fairly strong La Nina as can be seen when looking at the MEI. So, being that the next solar minimum is now close at hand, I expect to see La Nina drop below 1 C later this year. …

March 20, 2018 8:23 am

Maybe it is just a hokey stick

March 20, 2018 8:48 am

An investigation
(by Mueller and his team of Democrat hacks)
of everything
is better known as a witch hunt,
and is a terrible precedent
for our nation.
I said in writing, at my politics blog,
that Mueller should have been fired immediately.
If the FBI was good enough to investigate Shrillary,
— a fake investigation with pre-determined results —
then they were good enough to investigate Trump,
with Trump appointees running the FBI.
Comey and all other Democrat political
appointees in the government should have been
fired in Trump’s first week as president.
No special council was needed,
because there was, and still is,
no evidence of any crime by the
Trump campaign.
Meanwhile, since May 2017 for Mueller,
and summer 2016 for the FBI,
we still have no idea what specific crime
is being investigated.
Collusion is not a crime.
That means the investigation
was a witch hunt
from the beginning.
Trump should not cooperate
in any way with Mueller
— that would be another
bad precedent for the nation.
A president can not be charged with a crime
while in office — he must be impeached first.
Liberals are both vicious,
annoying and hypocritical —
they consistently forgive law breaking
by fellow liberals … but smear Trump with
unproven charges, and innuendo, every day.
If it was up to me, I’d lock liberals in prison
for a year, so I could enjoy the wonderful climate,
and avoid their nasty charges against Trump
and everyone who voted for him.
I’m sure it would be the best year of my life.
My politics blog:
My climate change blog:
My economics blog:

Reply to  Richard Greene
March 20, 2018 12:32 pm

So why do you think Trump is so terrified of Mueller? If he has nothing to hide he should just speak his mind and let us all move on. If Mueller has found nothing, this should be a walk in the park. But that’s the thing… we don’t know what Mueller has found, because he is the consummate professional, respected by large numbers of people from both parties. If he is as sharp as everyone says and Trump is innocent, then Donald has nothing to worry about.

Reply to  Simon
March 20, 2018 1:31 pm

So why do you think Mueller is so terrified of Trump? If he (Mueller) has found something it should be a walk in the park to finish up so we can all move on. If Mueller has found nothing, AND he is the consummate professional, respected by large numbers of people from both parties he won’t be trying to leverage others into providing dirt on Trump (if he is not the consummate professional that he is touted to be, then he will continue on trying to leverage others, using whatever means and unrelated issues, he can). If Mueller is as sharp as everyone says he, and he tries to use threats of actions on unrelated issues & potential political embarrassment to get information then I would say Trump should answer one question only:
Did you illegally collude with the Russians?
Answer: Based on my understanding of “illegal”, “collude”, and “Russians”, NO.

Another Ian
Reply to  Simon
March 20, 2018 1:53 pm

“Did you illegally collude with the Russians?”
What about the ALP then?

Reply to  Simon
March 20, 2018 2:15 pm

If he has nothing to hide he should just speak his mind and let us all move on.
That is not how the justice system works. Don’t expect that the justice system is seeking justice. Police get rewarded for arrests. Prosecutors get rewarded for convictions. No one gets rewarded for letting someone go free.
We live in an imperfect world. Innocent information you give investigators may well convict you because of a lie or mistakes made by other people. The investigators are under no obligation to tell you the truth.
The true question to be asked is this. If someone has committed a crime, why are they not charged with that crime. Instead all too often the only crime they are charged with is lying to the investigators.
Look at the Mueller investigation. People are being charged with lying, not with having committed a crime. But this begs the question, if someone was lying to cover up a crime, why were they not charged with the crime?
And if they didn’t commit a crime, what was their motive for lying. Isn’t it more likely they simply have a faulty memory and can’t recall exactly what happened months and years ago? Haven’t you ever been surprised to read a document you wrote a year or two ago, how much it differs from what you remember?
The system itself is rigged. The presumption of innocence no longer exists because there is no way for you to prove that your faulty memory was not a lie.

Reply to  Simon
March 20, 2018 3:33 pm

“So why do you think Trump is so terrified of Mueller?”
Ha ha. Trump terrified of Mueller. Ha ha. Thanks for the good laugh, clown.

Reply to  Simon
March 20, 2018 5:40 pm*900/dixon-93548-e-wp-content-uploads-2017-07-749697_eef1d9bc6a687f6.jpg
The above is a link to the Special Counsel Order. It essentially says Mueller can investigate a Russian Connection, or anything else that comes up during the investigation.
So, if during the investigation, Mueller finds out that Trump (or anyone else) did ANYTHING AT ANY TIME he can follow it up. It doesn’t say he has to follow it up. He may investigate the Hillary connection if he wants to.
Will he?
It seems he did/does have the power, through the Order, to investigate Sanders and Aussie Labor Party, if such cheating had come up during the investigation & Mueller deemed it a viable issue.
Such Special Counsel Orders are nuts, and at minimum should carry a funding limit that would need to be approved/extended by 60% house margin (or some other oversight means).

Reply to  Simon
March 20, 2018 6:05 pm

Frederic March 20, 2018 at 3:33 pm
“Ha ha. Trump terrified of Mueller. Ha ha. Thanks for the good laugh, clown.”
He certainly is behaving like he is. You know Trump is worried when he starts tweeting.
Aren’t you curious to know what Mueller has found/will find? I trust him to be discrete about what is worth divulging to the public. After all he is a life long republican. But first and foremost he is a patriotic American. He will want what is best for the country not for Trump. Quite the opposite to what Donny wants.
I know I can’t wait to know the truth. Last thing I want is for it all to close down without knowing what has come of all his digging.

David Ball
Reply to  Simon
March 21, 2018 10:15 am

Simon March 20, 2018 at 6:05 pm says;
“You know Trump is worried when he starts tweeting”
Really? Trumps tweets have the mainstream media pulling their own pants down. What planet do you live on?

Reply to  Simon
March 21, 2018 10:42 am

“What planet do you live on?”
I live on the planet that has his lawyers pulling their hair out every time he tweets anything about the Mueller investigation.

Reply to  Simon
March 21, 2018 6:47 pm

“Don’t expect that the justice system is seeking justice.”
Then don’t expect that the “science” system (the publication industry) is seeking truth.
“Police get rewarded for arrests. Prosecutors get rewarded for convictions.”
Researchers get rewarded for publication in prestigious journals. Universities get rewarded by attention gained from headlines.

March 20, 2018 10:48 am

How much has Mueller earned from the US taxpayer for his never ending investigation ?
Does he have to submit a monthly progress report or time sheet to Congress to get his monthly paycheck , like the rest of the employed population in virtually every other part of the world?

Reply to  mikewaite
March 21, 2018 10:43 am

“How much has Mueller earned from the US taxpayer”
Worth every cent if it sorts out the truth from fiction….

March 20, 2018 11:04 am

Where is the best place to read up on the proposition that we might be heading into a new Little Ice Age?
Is anyone writing about the possibility that we might be heading into a new Ice Age, plain and simple?

Reply to  dearieme
March 20, 2018 11:45 am
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March 20, 2018 3:12 pm


March 20, 2018 11:06 am

Trump referred to the “Mueller Investigation” not to Mueller himself.
Then the Left and the MSM, as usual, distort what Trump wrote and claim this means Trump is going to fire Mueller, and then a firestorm ensues on cable tv as reporters run to all the wimpy Republicans and ask them what they think about Trump firing Mueller and of course, they are all against it, but Trump has never said anything about firing Mueller.
This is the game that is played in Washington DC and it is a game that undermines our nation because it creates a false reality that undermines the president (which is the left’s purpose).
The Leftwing Media scares the hell out of Republcian congresscritters. The Repubicans do everything they can to be good “yes men for the MSM, which means giving leftwing propaganda legitimacy.

Ivor Ward
March 20, 2018 12:08 pm

There are as many invertebrates in the American Congress and Senate as we have now been proven to have in the British Administration. Quivering lips, tugged forelocks, shuffling out of the room backwards on their knees…… Only Trump, and oddly enough Putin, seem to have the moral courage to stand up for their own citizens, though Putin does have a nasty habit of doing them in when he fancies it.

charles nelson
March 20, 2018 1:59 pm

Wasn’t there and old movie…a western I think…called Mc Cabe and Mrs Mueller?

March 20, 2018 9:22 pm

Maybe the root of Mann’s hockey stick fetish stems from the fact that The Tree was the only wood he ever got.

March 23, 2018 1:34 am

The key to the whole Russian narrative is the John Podesta wiki leaks which have hardly been acknowledged let alone explained. Truth is the so called ‘deep state’ have been engaging in sordid practices for decades and the Podesta wiki leaks was like Steve’s exposure of the ‘hockey Stick’.
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