Claim: Educating Girls, Birth Control will Halt Climate Change

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Willie Soon; The climate population controllers are back.


Robin George Andrews

CLIMATE CHANGE IS a ubiquitous hydra, a many-headed beast that affects everyone and everything in some form. Solutions to climate change range from the effective and the practical to the potentially catastrophically dangerous—but, in this somewhat heated debate, a potent weapon in our arsenal is falling by the wayside: the empowerment of women.

Last year a coalition of scientists, economists, policymakers, researchers, and business people published Project Drawdown, a compendium of ways to prevent carbon dioxide from escaping skywards. Drawing from a plethora of peer-reviewed research, the document ranks 80 practical, mitigating measures—along with 20 near-future concepts—that could push back the oncoming storm.

Ranked in order of carbon emissions locked down by 2050, the usual suspects made the list. A moderate expansion of solar farms (number 8), onshore wind turbines (number 2), and nuclear power (number 20) would all save tens of billions of tons of equivalent carbon dioxide emissions. Increasing the number of people on plant-rich diets (number 4) and using electric vehicles (number 26) are effective carbon-cutting measures often proposed by climate hawks, and rightly so. The top spot went to managing refrigerants like HFCs, which are incredibly effective at trapping heat within our atmosphere.

But two lesser-known solutions also made this most practical of lists: the education of girls (number 6) and family planning (number 7). This is a stunning revelation, one that couldn’t be more pertinent, and yet, for the most part, discussions of mitigation and de-carbonization focus heavily on other matters, from the perceived perils and bona fide benefits of nuclear power, to just how quickly solar power is proliferating.

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I agree a lot of backward poor country countries could be drastically improved with Western education. One of the reasons places like Afghanistan are such a mess, is parents are desperate to educate their kids – but in too many cases, the only people offering that educational “opportunity” are crazy people.

Telling the recipients that more education will cause their tribe to wither for the sake of the planet is not the way to sell Western education services. They are not the fools some Westerners seem to think they are – uneducated doesn’t mean stupid.

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February 18, 2018 2:32 pm

If only climate alarmists were as sterile as their theories.

Tom Judd
Reply to  Max Photon
February 18, 2018 3:28 pm

And the male climate alarmists are as impotent as their theories.

F. Leghorn
February 18, 2018 2:41 pm

No, college won’t help. Most lefties have at least some college. Sterilization though,…

Pop Piasa
Reply to  F. Leghorn
February 18, 2018 5:38 pm

What helps the most is a job and the prospect of upward mobility in it. That’s what works the best historically.
That will, of course, require equal access to affordable electricity and sanitary conditions. The thuggery which has taken over the UN, plus the societal gender discrimination in the nations they “own”, together become the most tenacious obstacle to a natural depopulation of our globe to a “sustainable” level.
It was suggested by a PhD I’m close to, that A.I. might help folks make those sort of decisions in the future.
I told him GIGO. He stroked his chin and nodded.
We consequently changed the subject.

Reply to  F. Leghorn
February 18, 2018 6:06 pm

Education has taken a bad turn. I blame it on Bloom’s Taxonomy. It categorizes learning. Toward the bottom is factual knowledge. Toward the top is analysis. Every teacher wants to flatter herself that she is teaching at the top of the taxonomy. The result is that students are taught to analyze the crap out of almost no facts. Their left hemispheres (which handle language processing and logic) are strengthened. Their right hemispheres (which handle context) are denigrated. The result is weaponized military grade BS.
Iain McGilchrist has written a magnum opus, The Master and His Emissary in which he lays out the science related to the brain hemispheres. He points out that people with right hemisphere damage become detached from reality in a manner that mimics schizophrenia.
In this youtube interview, at around 12:03, he makes the statement that the left hemisphere blanks out anything that doesn’t fit its world view. Bingo. Now we know how a very educated person like Dr. Michael Mann can ignore recorded history as well as ignoring common sense and as well as ignoring almost all the previous evidence in order to invent his hockey stick. His left hemisphere has conveniently blanked out all the conflicting evidence. He’s a victim of his superior education.
Our education system has a lot to answer for. Foisting it on others is unconscionable.

Reply to  commieBob
February 19, 2018 5:54 am

They certainly have me baffled by their…. OT1H, over-population is the “root cause” of “the problem”. OTOH, we must expand socialist illfare programs and flood the Western world with “migrants”/ “refugees”/ “asylum seekers”/ invaders/ terrorists… with nary a gesture toward effective backgroind investigation to bar those most likely to initiate force or fraud… regardless of over-population, over-crowding which require over-taxation, over-regulation, etc.
Whip-saw? Rope-a-dope? OR some more specific variant?
I think they are causing a lot of incivility, transforming a lot of genial people into crusty, hardened defense forces against their scams…and pliant, easily duped people at the same time.

February 18, 2018 2:51 pm

It’s not education and birth control that slows population, it’s a job and the improved conditions that a salary brings. There are good reasons to want population to level off, that have nothing to do with CO2. It’s already working in many places that used to have rocketing populations. People limit their children voluntarily. Capitalism solves another problem.

Reply to  TinyCO2
February 18, 2018 2:53 pm

I should add, the jobs are for the women. It being hard to combine masses of children and other work.

Reply to  TinyCO2
February 18, 2018 4:04 pm

You are confusing education with indoctrination. Real education, improved condition of living and access to contraceptive do reduce population growth rate.

Reply to  Astrocyte
February 18, 2018 4:38 pm

No I’m not. Why would education reduce child berth? They know what causes babies but contraception won’t work if the couple doesn’t use it. However if the family’s income is affected by the woman being pregnant all the time, using contraception starts to make sense.

Reply to  Astrocyte
February 18, 2018 4:50 pm

In fact you can see it in benefit cultures like that of the UK. Unemployed women can have large familes because the state will pick up the bill. More babies might even equal more income. They don’t have to make a decision between limiting their family or limiting their lifestyle. They have access to contraception and education. They just don’t have any incentive to use either.

Reply to  Astrocyte
February 18, 2018 5:38 pm

Highly educated orthodox Jews have large families because their ideology demands it.
Likewise educated devout Muslims and educated devout Mormons (likely as among other Christian sects).
Education does not cure ideological fixation. One only need contemplate the incredible stupidity of ideological academics to prove that thesis.

Reply to  Astrocyte
February 18, 2018 6:42 pm

The only thing that has ever reduced birth rates is growing wealth.
Giving poor people contraceptives doesn’t work because for poor people, kids are a resource not a burden.

Reply to  Astrocyte
February 18, 2018 10:12 pm

I thought global warming decreased sperm count — so what are warmists worried about?

David L. Hagen
Reply to  TinyCO2
February 18, 2018 7:34 pm

The Eugenics/Planned Parenthood/Greenpeace mentality is to eliminate humans as hazardous to nature. Consequently, the US has aborted 60 million since 1973. Another 60 million are consequently missing having not been conceived. Thus 37% of US population of 323 million were killed or missing. We lost those needed to support social security for the elderly. China’s 1 child policy was even more devastating, leading to 4 elders per worker and increasing rural suicide rates. 20 countries in Europe are now declining. Who needs to worry about global warming with such policies?

Reply to  David L. Hagen
February 20, 2018 1:44 pm

The book “What to Expect When Nobody is Expecting” covers this in some detail. Our population would be collapsing if we weren’t flooding the country with immigrants, legal and not. We have outsourced our breeding to the third world.

February 18, 2018 3:03 pm

Given the post-modern ethics of our world, I’d family planning and education of girls are two concepts that contradict each other.
On the one hand, family planning is– or used to be– about a married couple deciding if they can have a child, or another one. This requires that society value the concept of protecting sex until marriage. However, as we know, sex is considered a free-access, unconstrained necessity of daily life in our world. Sex is now a base need that need not be held to the highest standards. So, we end up a sex-obsessed society, and naturally “family planning” becomes a soft cover for violent, abrasive counter-consequence behavior: abortion.
I am all for education girls in third and first world countries, because it does have an overall positive effect on society. But educated tainted with a dark obsession with sex, and family planning being the violent, deadly rescue tactic that it is, this future may be greener but well bereft of intelligent women… and men.
Wait… we’re already there.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  leowaj
February 18, 2018 6:54 pm

I’m afraid that post-modern ethics have little impact on the third world, where the fertility rate is documented as anomalously high by post-modern standards.
That birth-rate, incidentally, is tempered by a reduced average lifespan, due to the environmental and socio-political conditions inherent to underdeveloped nations.
If the third-world dictators will seek free-market capitalism and private investment, instead of conspiring to strip the capitalist nations and co-distribute the booty, the global population promises to decrease significantly in a few generations.
(I must here make a disclaimer that certain religious sects encourage copious reproduction, in an effort to dominate the future national constituency)

Leo Smith
Reply to  leowaj
February 18, 2018 11:02 pm

In Africa and India education is strongly linked to family size.
Education and indoctrination are two rather different animals

February 18, 2018 3:08 pm

MAy backfire when the newly educated realize what a nonsensical theory lays behind global warming hysteria.

Reply to  arthur4563
February 18, 2018 4:10 pm

The last thing a tyrant want is educated population. Tyrants promote dogma instead.

Reply to  Astrocyte
February 18, 2018 6:18 pm

I think that’s what they mean by the “education of girls” and the “empowerment of women.” Their idea of education is to indoctrinate them with climate-change dogma when they’re young in hopes that they will practice birth control and demand reductions in carbon emissions when they’re adults.

February 18, 2018 3:19 pm

Reporter Becky Griffin……reminds me of this

Gunga Din
February 18, 2018 3:26 pm

uneducated doesn’t mean stupid

This calls for one of my favorite secular quotes.
“Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.” – Will Rogers
Wisdom, knowledge correctly applied.
If you’re planning your retirement, you might want someone wise in the financial realm.
If you’re stuck in the wilderness, who would you want to advise you? Your banker?
Or maybe the old guy who never went to school but has lived there for 60 + years?

February 18, 2018 3:27 pm

It takes two to make a baby. And one of them isn’t a “girl.”

Reply to  rovingbroker
February 18, 2018 11:50 pm

In many countries, the girl has no say on who’s the husband, when to marry, or how many kids to have. The mother-in-law has a poor education, and is concerned primarily on if her son’s genes are being passed on, and more often than not, the place is plagued by civil wars, poverty, and bad health care.
It’s nice people know what to do, like educate girls, but it’s not exactly quick and simple process.
However, not all is lost. Late Hans Rosling has excellent visualizations in Youtube that show how birth rates have gone tremendously down already almost everywhere.
The population growth is an issue, but it is an issue that is solving by itself. The only places that lag behind are central Africa, notably Nigeria, and some islamic countries. There is no reason to be misanthropic as leftists sometimes are, or simply predisposed as right-wingers might be.

Reply to  Hugs
February 19, 2018 8:21 am

Birth rates have gone down everywhere. It’s just that in some areas it’s gone down more than others. At present the biggest cause of population growth is lengthening life spans in the third world, not more babies being born.

Reply to  Hugs
February 19, 2018 11:59 am

At present the biggest cause of population growth is lengthening life

I have a solution for that… no seriously, the birth rate is problem in a small set of countries. People living longer is not a ‘problem’. It is a result of a solution!

Tom Judd
February 18, 2018 3:31 pm

I think there needs to be more public intercourse concerning this issue.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom Judd
February 18, 2018 4:06 pm

As long as old, wrinkled politicians aren’t the ones leading the way.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 18, 2018 6:41 pm

And I was going to ask to watch, until that comment

Greg Cavanagh
February 18, 2018 3:32 pm

Afghanistan was a poor choice for comparison. It was a thriving modern world in the 70’s.
Do a Google search “Afghanistan then and now” to see exactly what I mean.

J Mac
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2018 9:07 pm

RE: “Unfortunately the teachers in my opinion betrayed the trust of the parents, and radicalized the kids.”
Sounds like the Washington Education Association union, here in Washington state.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 19, 2018 1:34 am

There is probably a correlation with “good work” similar from crew like those of Crazyhorse 1/8 and Crazyhorse 1/9 in providing “education” to kids in Al-Amin al-Thaniyah.

February 18, 2018 3:32 pm

This is a bit early. It is NOT April 1 yet.

Tom Judd
February 18, 2018 3:34 pm

There’s several different positions one could have about all of this.

Reply to  Tom Judd
February 18, 2018 3:38 pm

for educating girls….they used an example of Kenya
…for family planning…they used Gaza

Reply to  Tom Judd
February 18, 2018 8:15 pm

I’m not going to take this lying down!

Tom Judd
February 18, 2018 3:37 pm

Maybe if the alarmists didn’t expect us all to stand erect and ready every time they opened their mouths this would be less of an issue.

February 18, 2018 3:47 pm

Eric, I agree to a certain point with your post, then fundamentally disagree beyond. Wrote a whole book about your (and Willis) general hypothesis, the most operative for these purposes being chapter three of Gias Limits, based on food calories. As my own son said, “Dad, NOT a beach read”. A long data slog through a lot of hard irrefutable facts as of publication date 2012. Plus minus greening effects on C3 crops, suggests a planetary human carrying capacity of about 9.2-9.3 billion by about 2050. Just is. And we are now at about 7.8 billion.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  ristvan
February 18, 2018 4:07 pm

Perhaps a few more large scale wars would help.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 18, 2018 4:31 pm

I sincerely hope not. But the root economics of what looms ahead is inescapable. i even granted non-exonomic free reign to virtual water, and it did not compute. Look at the data, not the beliefs

Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2018 5:38 pm

Eric, no doubt. But at what cost to you to save refugee lives you currently quarantine in offshore PNG islands. Really?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2018 5:43 pm

Asteroid mining? At what cost. You theorize the maybe possible without considering the plausible. Get economically real..

Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2018 6:15 pm

You’ve left out Soylent Green.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 18, 2018 6:45 pm

We don’t need ground heating in Canada. Just a few degrees of global warming.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 19, 2018 5:48 am

If the enviros go nuts about adding a bit of CO2 to the atmosphere, what will they do when we start transferring tons of material from asteroids to the planet?

Reply to  ristvan
February 18, 2018 6:46 pm

Nonsense, We could easily double crop production just by bringing the 3rd world up to 1st world technology.
If we still have a problem, in most 1st world countries, as much as half the land that could be farmed, isn’t.
Then there’s hydroponics, eating less meat, backyard gardens.

Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2018 8:02 pm

Actually, calculated your best practices theory by crop. chapter three of Gaia’s Limits Most hopeful is rice, about 2 x as best practices spread in SE Asia. Least hopeful is wheat, thanks to Norman Borlaugs green revolution already adopted evwrywhere. The future wheat problem is that Borlaugs dwarfing and rust resistance ‘green revolution’ inventions work once, not twice.

Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2018 10:51 pm

Hi MarkW

We could easily double crop production just by bringing the 3rd world up to 1st world technology

Can you show to any sources for this?
And this:

as much as half the land that could be farmed, isn’t

It would appreciate some evidence on this

Reply to  MarkW
February 18, 2018 11:58 pm

Then there’s hydroponics, eating less meat, backyard gardens.

The solutions you suggest are totally marginal. Backyard gardens are necessary in a system that’s incapable of delivering, like communism, but their productivity is lower than tgat of mass production. Eating less meat, yeah, I love these rainbow ideas. Lettuce has a worse track record in keeping people live.

Reply to  MarkW
February 19, 2018 8:24 am

About 30% of the US’s corn crop is used to make fuel. Around the world corn isn’t the only food being turned into fuel.

Reply to  MarkW
February 19, 2018 8:25 am

While backyard gardens are marginal, there are millions of acres available for them, if the need were to ever arise. Which it won’t.
Reply to  ristvan
February 19, 2018 12:51 am

There are no facts about the future. But just about everybody who predicts it is wrong.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  ristvan
February 19, 2018 6:12 pm

Carrying capacity is a function of how high Energy Return on Energy Investment becomes for sustainable energy (eg solar thermal) and how low the related costs become. That drives power, fuel and desalination.

February 18, 2018 3:48 pm

If I was a climate denier, and you were a lady,
Would you marry me anyway, would you have my baby?

Reply to  Ronald P Ginzler
February 18, 2018 4:07 pm

The “LOL” was for this quip.

February 18, 2018 4:00 pm

If the prophecy of Catastrophic “Anthropogenic” Global Warming comes to pass, then the selective-child doctrine will indeed be a viable (pun intended) means to its end. Invest in Planned Parenthood futures.

February 18, 2018 4:01 pm

Many educated women choose to have more than 2 children.

Reply to  Stevek
February 19, 2018 12:16 am

Education drops birth rate, but it increases emissions per capita. I’d go for education.

Reply to  Stevek
February 19, 2018 3:45 am

“many” or “few” is pretty irrelevant. What’s relevant is “more” or “less”.

February 18, 2018 4:05 pm

But just white Christian girls. We won’t be suggesting any of that racist ethnocidal climate nonsense for black and brown Muslim girls now will we.

Reply to  cephus0
February 19, 2018 12:19 am

No I do think when leftists talk about population control, they are not racist, possibly chiefly misanthropic. They, knowing that they talk about places like Nigeria, never mention Nigeria, since they’re afraid of being stamped as racists.

Reply to  Hugs
February 19, 2018 3:42 am

What they “are” doesn’t matter, and we don’t even have any means to know anyway.
What matters is what they do. and what they do is, preventing as much as possible girls to become women.
Could be relevant to know why if we could act on them to change their course of action, but the fact is, we cannot anyway.

Reply to  Hugs
February 19, 2018 12:03 pm

Could be relevant to know why if we could act on them to change their course of action, but the fact is, we cannot anyway.

I think we are, unbeknownst to most of us, acting and affecting on how they think. Civilization just creeps in, as Barbies, toasters, Toyotas, fridges etc.

February 18, 2018 4:05 pm


John in Oz
February 18, 2018 5:03 pm

uneducated doesn’t mean stupid

Conversely, educated does not mean smart. Look at how many educated ‘climate scientists’ believe CO2 controls climate (and every other aspect of Nature).

February 18, 2018 5:32 pm

The lefty greens are so hung up on CAGW that they are willing to ignore reality. Like they want to save the birds but build more wind turbines. In the case for contraception they still follow Margaret Sanger belief that stopping the poor from having children will make the world a better place. Sanger really didn’t care about the affects on the environment, she just wanted less poor people. What the lefties don’t realize today one whole religion, Islam, (1.4 billion) and its most conservative leaders are promoting Muslims to have as many children as possible. It is one of the strategies of the radical Islamists for taking over Europe and elsewhere. Meanwhile the West has more single parent babies than anytime in history, often born to teenagers. Hypothetically we have the best education, at least when compared to the third world.

February 18, 2018 6:04 pm

The thinking behind “smaller families = less CO2 production” presupposes that smaller families will consume the same resources per child as larger families. That is nonsense. Smaller families don’t just bank the extra money that they would have otherwise spent supporting additional children. They spend that money too. They take more vacations in more exotic locals, they buy nicer cars, bigger houses, better (and more) clothes, they eat better food, they buy more of everything. I seriously doubt that having less children changes the amount of resources that any given family consumes. Except for the fabulously wealthy, we all max out our resources, even the people who have no children at all.
Utter nonsense.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
February 19, 2018 3:22 am

Until those children turn into adults making their own living and supporting their own family. They think about the future, and it obviously make a difference if there are 10 billions humans or just 10 millions, as the plan have it.

Reply to  paqyfelyc
February 19, 2018 8:06 am

That’s just as ridiculous. Family planning means having families You might go from 7 Billion to 7 Billion over a generation or two instead of 7 Billion to 8 billion, but going from 7 Billion to 10 Million would require measures so draconian as to be unspeakable.

February 18, 2018 6:18 pm

According to Chief Science Advisor to Prime Minister, New Zealand

Reply to  icisil
February 18, 2018 6:39 pm

How do economic sacrifices benefit the next generation? Is it by limiting their prospects for education, jobs, mobility, and nutrition? If we send society back to the dark ages, only a few wealthy and the clergy will be able to afford an education. That’s how it was until the industrial age and capitalism gradually made it economical to provide education to the masses. There is no evidence that a little warming, if it occurs, will harm more people than it benefits. But we do have history to show us what will happen if “economic sacrifices” relegate society to living in mass poverty.

Reply to  icisil
February 19, 2018 12:27 am

Sacrifice. Offer. It is a religion. I do make sacrifices, like for example, I sacrifice some fossils and wood logs to keep our house warm. The next generation is happy, and if we keep doing this, we’ll delay the next ice age for some time.
Reply to  icisil
February 19, 2018 12:56 am

Just showing how ignorant of basic economics he is. I would not be richer now if my father had been poorer. If that worked, then the children of the poorest would be the richest people. If we get richer it’s because we have created more wealth, and that stays around for the next generation.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  icisil
February 19, 2018 3:32 am

As in – will this generation of aspiring middle class and poorer people worldwide give up all attempts at giving themselves and their children a fair or better life in the future so that the well off can grab even more of the world’s resources so that they can become even more of a privileged elite while passing their greed off as saving the planet.
A plea – use “fewer” when referring to people, children, parents, cars, houses, etc.
“Less” should be used for things like sand, gases, mud, water, and things you can’t practically count as individual items.

February 18, 2018 6:36 pm

The birth rate is already below replacement level in most developed nations. The almost all the places with significant birth rates are barely contribute to the activities that the alarmists say are causing climate change.

Reply to  renbutler
February 19, 2018 12:30 am

After we educate them, that will change.

Greg Pearson
Reply to  renbutler
February 19, 2018 6:52 am

Wow, my paragraph was a grammatical train wreck. Sorry about that. The second sentence should be: “Almost all the places with significant birth rates are barely contributing to the activities that…”

Reply to  Greg Pearson
February 19, 2018 12:21 pm

Indeed it was. But since I’m a walking railway accident, I’m none to say.

February 18, 2018 7:24 pm

Saw the story on Salon getting aggregated on Google and Bing this morning.
A trial balloon from the Alarmists I would say.
Their, the Alarmists, interest is the forced sterilization of girls from 8-years old and older, principally in India, China and Africa. Countries in the Muslim world will do the dirty to their girl children as they have done and still do since 10 BC.

Reply to  JBom
February 20, 2018 1:59 pm

Mohammed was borne about 570 AD. But Islam is an unreconstructed 6th century religion. The west has moved on; they haven’t.

February 18, 2018 8:10 pm

The most entertaining issue of wattsupwiththat in memory!

John F. Hultquist
February 18, 2018 8:48 pm

Asteroid Mining
Seems two ideas have been thrown up. (pun ?)
One is to get minerals from an asteroid and carry them to the Moon or to Mars. Count me as a no-show on a base waiting for the arrival.
Two is to find a valuable asteroid – Eric mentions Platinum @ 7:02 pm – and bring it back to Earth in a controlled manner.
I found this list:
Most asteroids fit into three basic categories:
C-type – More than 75 percent of known asteroids fit into this category. The composition of C-type asteroids is similar to that of the sun without the hydrogen, helium and other volatiles.
S-type – About 17 percent of asteroids are this type. These contain deposits of nickel, iron and magnesium.
M-type – A small number of asteroids are this type, and they contain nickel and iron.
Are there mostly pure asteroid of Platinum or Gold? If so, the references are few.
The things in the above list are not worth the effort. They are found on Earth.
If one wants to bring a major mass of something to Earth it seems there ought to be many such to work with. That would be N per year, where N is not near zero.
Tell me the companies that are investing in this so I can divest.

Reply to  John F. Hultquist
February 19, 2018 8:29 am

They don’t have to be pure. If the concentration is similar to what is being mined on earth, then the economics is there.
The other metals you can mine while extracting the platinum just pads the bottom line.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  MarkW
February 19, 2018 11:50 am

Show me some numbers.
How many asteroids have a high value composition?
When spotted, where is it in relation to Earth?
How long do you have to get there with equipment to (a) mine it, or (b) attach propulsion.
During the time ‘a’ or ‘b’ requires, how far does the asteroid move?
How much mass are you expecting to bring back.
How is this done in a controlled manner, so as to not produce a Tunguska event?
I can think of a dozen other issues.

J Mac
February 18, 2018 9:27 pm

Female education and birth control may reduce diaper change but they don’t have a popsicle’s chance in hell of ‘stopping climate change’.

Reply to  J Mac
February 19, 2018 12:32 am

Whatever your theory on climate change is, you’re obviously right.
On the other hand, education does no big harm. It will increase emissions per capita, but it could stop the population growth…

February 18, 2018 10:35 pm

It’s truly bizarre to hear people complain about the future. People today enjoy lives of ease and luxury that even the kings and queens of centuries past could not imagine.
That didn’t happen by accident, people have improved the world generation after generation. There is no reason to believe that will stop happening now or in the future.
People improve that world, more people improve the world more. The surest way to make humanity miserable is to announce that we have topped out and the resources we have today are a pie that we all need to divide up. This leads people to behave irrationally and take on a bunker mentality that leads to breakdowns and shortages that never would have occurred otherwise.

Reply to  Ktm
February 19, 2018 3:09 am

Those complainers consider other humans to be threats to them, for some reason.

Reply to  paqyfelyc
February 19, 2018 8:31 am

They believe that those other people are using stuff that they want.

February 19, 2018 12:07 am

As the scary global warming fraud unravels the rent seekers will whine for a few years then drift off to greener pastures and the population control agenda will have no where to hide .

James Bull
February 19, 2018 2:41 am

You finish with
“uneducated doesn’t mean stupid”.
I have found some very well educated people who you dare not let loose with anything practical as you know it would end in disaster also I have met those who look down their noses at anyone who has not been through higher education ( indoctrination some might say) they get very upset when you can easily poke holes in their pet ideas of how the world works.
James Bull

Peta of Newark
February 19, 2018 3:44 am

One of my twin daughters wanted to become a (large animal = rare) veterinarian.
She was going to run up a debt of minimum £105,000 to get that degree.
What would be the chances of her paying that back AND while rearing 2 or 3 kids?
She’s have to farm them out to someone else – they’d get to 5 years old afflicted with Kwashkior and be addicted to sugar. I bought my first house in 1983 – 45mins door-to-door from the Lloyd’s Building in London and cost £24,000
See here:
The stench of greed and cronyism is overpowereing.
Seemingly and maybe 3 or 4 years ago here in the UK, some mathematics teachers (of the 16 & 17 year olds) were shown almost the exact maths examination paper that I sat when I was 17.
To them, it looked like hieroglyphics from Planet Zog
The ‘Pass Mark’ for maths (age 16) here in UK is now 15% (as reported by BBC)
For most exams now, multiple choice, a blind monkey could/should get at least 25 or 33%
So you are intelligent and rich are you?
Does not almost all your money simply exist as numbers in a remote computer?
What if someone switched that computer off or asked it to send it all to their bank account.
Did not the recently bankrupt government in Greece do exactly that?
So you buy into electric cars – will there be much choice soon?
Just like your money-in-the-bank – electric cars are going to be such a soft & easy target for switching off, going slow, range & location impairment.
But you’re really intelligent and can handle that right?
How? Call someone on your cell phone?
What if someone ‘does an Apple’ and disables your phone, like they just did your money and your car?
So you retire home, to the money-efficient and electrically dependant ‘castle’
Oh yeah. With a Smart Meter reporting your every Joule usage and entirely capable of disabling that?
Maybe you make it to ripe old age and need ‘care’
You certainly will because a lifetime of eating cabbages will have turned you into one.
If none of the previous calamities have befallen you, the costs of the Cronyfied care home system will clean you right out financially.
And because all of the home-grown kids, what few there are, are sooooo intelligent and well educated, they won’t want to be the nurses and carers in those places. Mangers & supervisors maybe but they won’t get their hands dirty will they?
You you rely on immigrants, as from Poland here and now in the UK (Mexico maybe for the US?)
Buy say one one word and they up sticks and go home don’t they. As the Polish are doing here right now because of Brexit.
Get my drift yet?
There is only really One Thing that government cannot take away from you and that is: Your Own Kids.
And lookee here – it is EXACTLY what they want to do and in fact what we’re doing to ourselves – safe in the Magically Thought out bubble that says we are so intelligent and clever we don’t even need kids anymore.
Simply incredible.
Put down the beer glass, the whiskey tumbler, throw out the bread-bin and biscuit-barrel, stay away from the Pizza Hut and ffs people: Wake Up

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 19, 2018 4:00 am

Apols for the errant grammer and spelling – but you get my drift.
As always: If any pedants do feel inspired – maybe check in a mirror first, in case there’s anything green & leafy looking back at you

February 19, 2018 4:00 am

The entire tone and quality of the article being quoted is that of Pravda style propaganda.
How pathetic and uninformative.

Bruce Cobb
February 19, 2018 4:48 am

Empowerment of women, education of girls, and birth control availability are all feel-good, virtue-signaling “solutions” to a non-problem. Smug, well-off people in ivory towers love coming up with these things. In the end, though, if the goal is to help eliminate human suffering, then raising standards of living is the only solution, but even that can’t be done until you have democratic forms of government. Ah, but eliminating human suffering isn’t the goal of these self-important Warmunists, there’s the rub. Quite the opposite in fact.

February 19, 2018 4:54 am

In reality, what the world needs isn’t population control, they need coal-burning power plants. Those coal-burning power plants can power air-conditioned schools and hospitals, office buildings and computers, and a higher standard of living. Without it, we will continue to have uneducated people with high birth rates. It doesn’t do any good to tell a family not to have more children, when those children are needed to cut wood for the family fire, and replace the child that died in the cobalt mine working for an electric car battery company.
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February 19, 2018 5:00 am

I agree, educating women, especially in science would greatly help. To start, they should start by educating these so-called “500 Women Scientists.” who wrote the nonsense published in Scientific America.
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George Daddis
February 19, 2018 7:28 am

My new trigger for “I Stopped Reading at…” is:

Climate Change….affects everyone and everything in some form

Note the present tense.
Now if they are talking about NATURAL Climate Change they may have a point. But natural climate change has always affected everyone in some way or another. Their solutions would of course do nothing to impact natural extreme weather events.
However if they are talking about extreme weather from CAGW, it hasn’t happened yet; and any fear of future impacts are based on models that have yet to produce a verified prediction.
I agree that increasing prosperity through the availability affordable energy (currently fossil fuels) and educating females, the population of underdeveloped countries would decrease. But that has nothing to do with Global Warming.

Reply to  George Daddis
February 19, 2018 12:32 pm

Good point. That ‘climate change’ ‘affects everyone’ has become a part of a certain canon, while it is totally wrong in the meaning it is said. This is pretty much what religions and other ‘isms do. They redefine words in a manner that truisms of natural language becomes key pillars of the religious speech. In order to dissect them, you need to handle the two different meanings separately, often at the price of lengthiness.
I’m pretty certain ‘climate change’ doesn’t ‘affect’ me, but clearly politicians pushing premature mitigation have an effect on many things, like for example, the price of a plastic bag.

February 19, 2018 11:43 am

The only thing you ever need to go to when people start getting over-excited on population is this video by Hans Rosling:
The loss of this man will be felt around the world and sensible people need to keep repeating his messages.

Reply to  Rob
February 19, 2018 12:24 pm

+1 for linking Hans Rosling.
Takeaway: forget Ehrlich, Club of Rome, deep-extreme ‘ecologists’. Everything is better than ever was, and becoming better.

Kristi Silber
February 20, 2018 1:03 pm

“Telling the recipients that more education will cause their tribe to wither for the sake of the planet is not the way to sell Western education services. ”
Gee, I didn’t know that was part of the sales pitch. No wonder people leave their girls ignorant if that’s what happens to a tribe.
“Western” education? Is that where they teach kids that Europeans are superior, and that colonialism never happened?

Reply to  Kristi Silber
February 20, 2018 1:18 pm

Whom you fool? It was a sales pitch of Western education. Not a lesson in Xhosa poetry.

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