Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Canadian Environment Minister Catherine McKenna has demanded climate skeptic Hockey commentator Don Cherry think about all the children who might one day not be able to play outdoors on the ice in Canada.
Don Cherry says “cuckaloos” believe in global warming
Don Cherry calls people who believe in global warming ‘cuckaloos’
Hailey Montgomery
Digital Reporter
Sunday, February 4, 2018, 6:16 PM – Known to many as the most outspoken man in sports, iconic Canadian commentator and television personality Don Cherry is once again facing criticism after offering input to a discussion well outside of the hockey world.
During his CBC Hockey Night in Canada segment Coach’s Corner on Saturday, a day after groundhog Wiarton Willie predicted six more weeks of winter, Cherry implied that Canada’s ongoing cold weather was contradictory to the concept of global warming.
“He predicts six more weeks of cold weather”, Cherry said, seated in front of a plush-toy likeness of Willie. “Now, I’d like to ask you with your left-wing pinko friends: What about the warming trend,” he asked co-host Ron MacLean.
When MacLean tried to change the subject, Cherry persisted.
“I’m just asking, the cuckaloos always say ‘the warming trend’; we’re freezing to death,” he said.
“We’re not totally cuckaloos if you look at some of the thing’s going on in our world,” MacLean replied.
The formed Boston Bruin’s coach has been known to be unapologetically opinionated on and off screen, making his two-cents known as to Toronto’s bike lanes, politics, European imports to the NHL, and weather or not female journalists may go inside NHL locker rooms to seek interviews.
Cherry has faced criticism on social media for his comments.
For hockey you can turn to Coach's Corner if you want, for climate change, Canadians turn to scientists.
But Don Cherry might want to think about all those kids who might not have outdoor rinks to play on some day. #CLIMATECHANGEISREAL https://t.co/ObVwwYLiAr
— Catherine McKenna (@cathmckenna) February 4, 2018
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If there is one country in the world which could potentially benefit from global warming, that country is Canada. Most of the population is jammed up against the “warm” southern edge of the country, leaving vast empty wildernesses to the north. A few degrees warming might make those vast empty regions more habitable.
As for Canadian Environment Minister Catherine McKenna’s suggestion that ice in Canada might someday be a thing of the past, I think I’ll go with Don Cherry’s position on that kind of prediction.
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Yep – no ice to be found in Canada right now.
According to McKenna’s boss, she landed the Minister of Environment job because it was 2015. He said so right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OOIU7xQrk
So Canadians are entitled to take Don Cherry’s remarks just as seriously as hers.
Ain’t it amazing how you are no longer allowed to acknowledge any difference between men and women – unless you’re counting them?
At least Cherry knows something about ice other than how to fly over it.
Listen to what Jordan Peterson said recently about incompetency due to ideological decisions regarding gender:
Part of this is on the subject:
Foreplay in different countries.
In “Lower Slobovia”–Hey Ruth, are you awake?
In Canada–Hockey game’s over!”
🙂
Or when I was younger, “intermission”!
“But Don Cherry might want to think about all those kids who might not have outdoor rinks to play on some day.”
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Unless you’ve grown up on outdoor ice skating/hockey rink, you might never know the screech of a sharp pair of ice skates vs ice at about zero Fahrenheit.
Nor the crunching sound of that same ice, when an opponent (that outweighs you by 30 pounds) is bearing down on you.
Nothing that 5 stiches in the chin can’t fix.
All part of the learning experience.
Talking Barbie, pull the string and she says something … world peace, climate change, nice car, …
Talking Brad, er Justin, pull the string and he says something … that’s not who we are, I’m a feminist, how’s my hair?, …
Talking Don, push the button and stand back. nice suit.
To cold for hockey.
The guvamint built an ice rink in Ottawa for $5.6 million (C) and an additional $2.5 million (c) to keep it open until the end of Feb 2018. But it is too cold for hockey, and cracks have developed on the ice surface which forced a temporary closure.
Keeping Canada 150 rink open will cost taxpayers an additional $2.5M
“could potentially benefit from global warming”
This is what Mr Worrall offers you against all the warnings of scientists and climatologists who actually know what they’re talking about and aren’t part of some sort of Blog “Enterprise”.
Laughable.
Odd. All of those “scientists and climatologists” get their entire billions of lab budget grants and travel and salary directly from the government whose research grants they applied for (under Obama) specifically to get his climate research grants based on their conclusions and support for HIS climate assumptions.
Almost as bad as confirming the validity of a “dossier” to a FISA judge with a news article about it.
Yeah. Global warming will mean less arable land in Canada.
Donald, do you mean
“scientists and climatologists who actually know what they’re talking about“,
such as Prof Peter Wadhams who (5 years ago; and several more times) forecast that the summer sea ice could be gone by 2015?
There are lists of such failed predictions. And cartoons. And poems. And videos.
You can find them, just look.
Donald;
This is what Mr Worrall offers you against all the warnings of scientists and climatologists who actually know what they’re talking about
In the interests of educating me Donald, could you spell out the specific scientists and climatologists your are speaking of? I’d be very interested in knowing their names so that I can read their papers. TIA.
Uhm Donald, its been almost a whole day. I’m very anxious to look up what the scientists who you say know what they are talking about have to say. Could you please tell me their names?
Well a day and a half and no answer to my question from Donald. We used to get alarmist scientists dropping into this forum to discuss science. They generally got their butts kicked. Now we get trolls who say we should listen to the scientists who “know what they are talking about” but can’t be bothered to even tell us the names of the people we should supposedly be listening to.
Quite a few warnings have proved to be off by quite a bit. Putting it mildly. Worall makes one very good point since the prediction is that night-time temperatures in higher latitudes will rise the most. You don’t need a degree to realise you can grow crops further north if that happens.
Seriously Donald? Even alarmists suggest Canada would benefit from global warming.
https://web.stanford.edu/~mburke/climate/map.php
“Laughable”
You don’t believe the long interglacial warming we continue to enjoy has some considerable benefits for many? Canadians would certainly not be alone in thinking that-
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-29/greenland-land-of-ice-embracing-climate-change/9365316
The IPCC has stated that warming up to 1.8C would be generally beneficial for the world. Unfortunately, CO2 is utterly incapable of moving that needle as present temperature and trends illustrate. So sadly, the AGW crowd will destroy the economy and we won’t have our beneficial warming either.
The Left is at the controls for yet another lose-lose effort. Do I have to say thanks?
Talking Climate Barbie….. just pull her string and listen to her recite Green Blob sound bites.
Just whatever…. just don’t ask where that string comes out on her body.
Glutton for punishment ?
So what the heck is a “cuckaloo”?
Can’t find it on the net but I suspect it’s a mixed metaphor referring to a cuckoo bird that craps uninvited in your nest/loo that makes sense to the caller-
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/cuckoo
Cuckoos full of crap perhaps?
Cuck- is a meme born with the Alt-right’s condemnation of cuckservatives looking left for approval.
Canadian colloquialism for nutjob. A little obscure and old-fashioned but still heard occasionally. Cherry’s an old guy.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cuckaloo&defid=12516910
“cuckaloo
A person who believes in man made climate change (Al Gore green scam!) as opposed to natural climate conditions based on the earth’s natural processes that have been going on since the beginning of time.”
Is this the genius who celebrated world penguin day with a video of puffins?
http://torontosun.com/2017/04/25/environment-minister-celebrates-world-penguin-day-with-puffins-video/wcm/6a5af568-ca1c-4e7b-b3dd-c52b091b8dca
Yes. Very funny. But as nobody later explained, it was not a stupid mistake but done deliberately, to show that Canada is totally inclusive and awesome and welcomes climate refugees from all hemispheres.
“Someone in her office who needed to renew her eyewear prescription…” Maybe the mystery lady was… McKenna
Just a bit of info for the next person who has a face to face with Climate Barbie.
Much of the air pollution in third world countries, which is killing all the children she is so concerned about, comes from people burning anything they can get to heat their homes or cook their food. Power plants actually produce only a small proportion of “air pollution”.
Remember London’s “Pea Soupers”? The were eliminated when Britain turned away from coal fired domestic heating to gas and other sources of heating. Ditto in Canada: the “smog days” she repeatedly referred to, last happened about 100 years ago.
There are liars, and there are statisticians. Then there is Climate Barbie.
2.7 Billion people in the World don’t have appropriate Cooking Facilities, another 1.2 Billion do NoT have access to electricity.
This might be the time to let everyone know that the Arctic is ice free as we write. Under the new definition of “ice free” any ice extent less than the entire extent of the Arctic Ocean is now considered “ice free”. Never mind that the NW Passage is still impassable. You need to learn to ignore the man behind the curtain so that people like Catherine McKenna can continue to tell us what is best for us.
It’s even worse than we thought…….
“Melting ice poses one of the greatest threats to the modern world, a top Australian climate change professor has warned……………….Prof England says up to 15 metres of Antarctica ice could melt into the oceans if the Earth gets hot enough over the next several centuries.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/millions-displaced-if-antarctic-ice-melts/news-story/3c153414e1068d4bf284318ace1f87eb
if…
Such a small word.
… and “could” – weasel words
I dont live in Canada so i dont care, but i will keep my fingers crossed he has by some miracle of nature guessed right for the wrong reasons.
Canada would be just as beautiful with no snow.
Just think how many more immigrants Canada could take.
There’s a movie title (paraphrased) for that…”The Unbearable Stupidity of it all”
It’s interesting how the climate sceptic community think that the whole issue of climate change is something that is simply a hoax with no substance to it.
Several businessmen are already positioning themselves to take advantage of the climate change revolution in terms of technologies being developed to abate its effects. It seems that sceptics are uninterested in finance and prefer to see the US’s competitors take the lead and thus put the American economy at a disadvantage. Strange – I always thought Americans believed in the power of free market capitalism…
https://mankindsdegradationofplanetearth.com/2018/02/05/carbon-capture-and-storage-ccs-how-bill-gates-aims-to-clean-up-the-planet/
Capitalism works because people are free to make their own decisions. Personally I think CCS is lunacy. Other people are free to take other views. My only reservations are I don’t want them to spend my money on this idiocy, and I don’t want a CCS facility anywhere near where I live, as in within 30 miles of where I live – I have no wish to be caught up in a manmade Lake Nyos disaster.
Bill Gates, the second richest man in the world and a genius entrepreneur, seems to disagree with you regarding CCS – and I think I am more inclined to go with what he thinks is the future (no offence).
Also, if you are a fossil fuel advocates – as I assume you are like many on WUWT – why should you be concerned about a CCS facility near you? Climate sceptics argue that CO2 has no harmful effects and, as such, there is no atmospheric pollution or AGW. In fact this CO2 in their eyes is making this planet greener.
He he – Bill Gates is free to try, there is no guarantee he’ll succeed. Even if Bill succeeds, if his CCS facility is as buggy as Windows OS, I definitely want my 30 mile buffer zone.
Bill Gates is good at hiring people who can write operating systems, therefore he is an expert in climate change.
Is that really the best you can do Ivan?
“Bill Gates is good at hiring people who can write operating systems”
Having been involved with a certain operating system continuously from the version that didn’t even have a version number (I still have the SDK, including the 5 1/4 floppies), if I could be bothered I might take issue with that…
If it (CSS) can be profitable without Government subsidy, then here’s wishing Bill all the success in the world. So far, it appears to be just “catch and release”.
“Several businessmen are already positioning themselves to take advantage of climate change rent-seeker subsidies in terms of useless and potentially dangerous technologies being developed to supposedly abate the non-existent effects of the imaginary problem.”
There, fixed it for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think everything connected to AGW is subsidised. Fossil fuels receive huge subsidies as well … but of course that’s not something you ever write about.
@ivankinsmen;
Oh, playing the “fossil fuel subsidy” card eh? It must be lovely living the life you do, an existence untrammeled by facts or reality. So, name a subsidy for fossil fuels. Let me start by short-circuiting your likely first answer and point out that depletion allowances are available for any resource that’s pulled out of the ground.
“Let me start by short-circuiting your likely first answer and point out that depletion allowances are available for any resource that’s pulled out of the ground.”
So what? It’s still a subsidy. That’s like saying corn subsidies don’t count because wheat farmers can get subsidies too.
It really is sad how the trolls cling to their disproven lies.
There are no fossil fuel subsidies. But you can be assured that Ivan will be back, over and over again, to claim otherwise.
BTW, everything associated with fossil fuels is subsidized, either directly or indirectly via mandates to buy, regardless of cost.
Chris, so you believe that anything that reduces taxes are a subsidy? Would you care to apply that logic to the subsidies that your family uses? Or is it only a subsidy when someone you don’t like uses it?
It’s a general principle that anything that decreases the value of company results in a right off. Why should only the fossil fuel industry be exempt from this rule?
Say “Hi’ to Vlad for all of us next time you stop by the Kremlin to pick up your paychreque.
If anyone is pro-Russian it is you my friend. Sceptics and fossil fuel advocates – by consistently denigrating renewable technologies, Evs etc – and promoting fossil fuels, that are Russia’s main source of revenue, are holding America back. You represent a 5th column doing Vlad’s dirty work. What is it like? Are you happy keeping the ex-KGB spymaster in power?
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John has it 100% backwards, amazing. The countries most dependent on fossil fuels for their national economies are some of the most repressive in the world – Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela.
Lets see if I have this right.
By opposing the left’s attempts to free up America’s fossil fuel development, we are playing right into Putin’s hands?
BTW, Putin is well aware of the fact that renewables will never replace fossil fuels. Or anything else for that matter, that’s why Putin has been so active in funding the various “environmental” movements.
Ivankinsman, sure those businessmen are positioning themselves to ‘take advantage…’. As they did during the dot-com boom and as they did leading up to the subprime mortgage frenzy. The sharpest of them made out like bandits. But in retrospect we know that the underlying ‘revolution’ turned out to be another extraordinary delusion made worse by the madness of crowds.
That is the world of money whereas AGW is about physical reality and lives are at stake. Sceptics are prepared to write off AGW as some kind of pseudo-leftist conspiracy with pc lefties wanting to take over the planet and create some kind of socialist paradise.
My question is: What if you are wrong. What if AGW is impacting man’s environment? No second chances like with a financial crisis. You cannot compare like with like here.
Wow, lives are at stake? Really? Can you document whose life and where?
Or are you just another of those idiots who proclaim that any change, no matter how small is gonna kill us all?
BTW, the number and severity of all storms has been dropping in recent decades, though I have no doubt you will try to deny this well proven fact.
Ivankinsman writes,
“Sceptics are prepared to write off AGW as some kind of pseudo-leftist conspiracy with pc lefties wanting to take over the planet and create some kind of socialist paradise.”
I write it off as a FAILED conjecture because of the already failed PER DECADE warming prediction/projection from 1990 onwards. They also failed the Troposphere “hot spot” modeling projection as well.
You also wrote this dead on arrival question, since it is well known that it is clearly a positive impact
“What if AGW is impacting man’s environment?”
It is a GREENING world, crop yields increasing, deserts are getting greener. Forests are growing larger…..
You are off the rails with this one,
“That is the world of money whereas AGW is about physical reality and lives are at stake.”
No the worlds population is increasing….., your reality is from delusions over a super molecule that doesn’t even have a measurable warming effect in the Satellite data OUTSIDE of El-Nino events. How can the atmosphere cool down so much afterwards if the super molecule were on the job swallowing all that heat, making it vanish in a split second?
AGW is a long failed conjecture that needs to be thrown in the dumpster.
ivankinsman… I addressed the issue you raised head on. Off you go changing the subject with
“Lives are at stake… What if you are wrong. What if AGW is impacting man’s environment?”
Answer… it doesn’t make much difference, does it? Natural variability and extreme weather have been impacting man’s environment for all of man’s history. Lives are always at stake with or without AGW. AGW didn’t cause the Galveston Hurricane in 1900 or Hurricane Hazel in 1954. AGW didn’t cause the drought that is thought to be why the Anasazi abandoned their pueblos in Utah nearly nine hundred years ago.
AGW didn’t cause the ‘Year without a summer’ in 1816 and the ensuing crop failures and starvation. But we can learn a lesson from it… real-life historical evidence (actual ‘physical reality’) shows earth’s climate to be, at any given moment, approximately one severe and not particularly rare volcanic eruption away from sufficient cooling to be catastrophic for mankind.
So in answer to your question… I’m not going to fret about a couple degrees of AGW. Whether you do is your choice and is influenced by which evidence you choose to ignore. And on top of that… where I am it was -30C when I got up this morning, and I’ve shovelled so much snow since early November that I don’t really care whether I am wrong about whatever you imagined I was wrong about. And it really is your imagination in play since (if you go back and read what I wrote) I never mentioned AGW, or climate, or even weather, in the first place.
Remember the pet rock? Just because there’s a market, doesn’t mean there’s inherent value in the product.
I also get tired of pretentious idiots thinking they can win any argument by dangling money – that’s acting on a stereotype, which has been pretty much created by non-capitalists.
Have no idea what you’re talking about I’m afraid.
There is an outdoor rink right behind my house. There is a notice board for hockey times and pleasure skating times. It shows no sign of starting later or finishing earlier than it ever did. Normal variation? Sure. Persistent warming? Not so much. Waterloo hasn’t warmed in 100 years. I hope it doesn’t start cooling. Street hockey is also fine by me.
I’m just waiting for that improbable day when people can honestly and gleefully say, “Soon, kids won’t even know what Leftist demagoguery looks like…”
In Germany, this time is coming soon……. It’s already 5 to 12 for the alarmists.
Don’t give up hope. Even Joe Stalin came to see the error of some ways, ways which we are all too familiar with today.
It has brought out, in the first place, that in linguistic bodies both in the center and in the republics a regime has prevailed which is alien to science and men of science. The slightest criticism of the state of affairs in Soviet linguistics, even the most timid attempt to criticize the so-called “new doctrine” in linguistics, was persecuted and suppressed by the leading linguistic circles. Valuable workers and researchers in linguistics were dismissed from their posts or demoted for being critical of N. Y. Marr’s heritage or expressing the slightest disapproval of his teachings. Linguistic scholars were appointed to leading posts not on their merits, but because of their unqualified acceptance of N. Y. Marr’s theories.
It is generally recognized that no science can develop and flourish without a battle of opinions, without freedom of criticism. But this generally recognized rule was ignored and flouted in the most unceremonious fashion. There arose a close group of infallible leaders, who, having secured themselves against any possible criticism, became a law unto themselves and did whatever they pleased.
Joseph Stalin, Pravda, June 1950.
Does Catherine go to the Dr Viner school of “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” CRU at the UEA?
“But Don Cherry might want to think about all those kids who might not have outdoor rinks to play on some day.”
(Don, you better listen to her)
I strongly suspect Don Cherry has the greater qualifications and skill in judging hockey sticks.
If i was the new Premier of Ontario, Election, June 9th 2018. i would fire every employee at the Moe, Ministry of Environment. My co-workers were in an Electrostatic Precipitator recently that was Not opened up oR repaired in SIX Years. And I’m on Cbc Blogs commenting that a Once a Year Shut Down may NoT be enough. When maintained they do a good job of removing Particulate and Soot from emissions. Ref: Pictures are worth a thousand words.
Images for black carbon on greenland Ice cap
Soot and Dirt Is Melting Snow and Ice Around the World – Latest Stories
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/…/140610-connecting-dots-dust-soot-snow-ice-c…
Jun 10, 2014 – A May 2014 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences reported a link between black carbon from northern boreal forest fires and faster melting in 2012 of the Greenland ice sheet. And a study in 2013 documented that boreal fires in Alaska are burning more frequently now than at any …
Cuckaloos!. The progs Co-opt the CUCK meme. Many fora/forums will censor cuck-, a clue to their politics. The cuckoo happily raises another father’s chicks. A cuckservative looks left for approval as it abets progressive policies, raising the progs’ intellectual ‘offspring’ .
The meaning of this word is closer to and derived from “kook”, wherever that comes from. But I get your point.
No kids are playing hockey on out-door rinks this winter in Canada.
It has been way too cold.
People might think that you’re joking but when dangerously low temperatures and wind chill combines, exposed skin can freeze and blister in short order. In our neck of the woods there have been too many days like that where any outdoor activity is short term only.
This winter has had some very nice warm spells (in Calgary), and early on I was commenting on how nice this winter was turning out to be. But now it has been one cold snap after another, turning this into the coldest winter since I moved to Calgary (21 years ago). And we still have 2 months of winter to go.
Here in Calgary, there are very few outdoor rinks. The chinooks cause the outdoor rinks to melt repeatedly, so most rinks are indoor. But this winter the real problem would have been too cold. Our kids are not as hardy as past generations, and would not want to play in the harsh cold.
Growing up in Canada in the 60’s, when it was definitely colder, we played outside for hours at -20 and colder. Frostbitten ears lots of time, numb feet and nothing like getting hit on frozen hands with a stick. we would not have considered not playing as an option.
Whoever the sportscaster idiot was who said Canadians weren’t tough enough to play basketball knew absolutely nothing about us.
Kids were on the ice just north of Boston by the 2nd week of December….yeah…
Cool, in the 60s we played hockey on Fish Brook at the Topsfield/Boxford townline 20 miles north of Boston.