
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Fifteen years of satellite measurements have unexpectedly shown that parts of Greenland are getting colder. But the scientists who produced these results urge people to believe that this cooling trend is a blip, because climate models say Greenland should be warming.
Greenland’s recent temperature drop does not disprove global warming
January 29, 2018 – 09:55
Unfortunately, the planet is still getting warmer.
By: Charlotte Price Persson
Using satellite data, a group of scientists has studied the development of temperature over the past 15 years in a large part of Greenland.
More precisely, they looked at surface temperatures (the temperature close to the Earth’s surface) in a part of the country that is not covered by ice—around one fifth of the surface area of Greenland.
Intuitively, you may think that temperature throughout all of Greenland has been increasing, but that is not the case. When you look at the yearly average, the ice-free parts of Greenland show a slight drop in temperature between 2001 and 2015. With swings in temperature from year to year.
However, these results should not be interpreted as “proof” that the Earth is not warming, say the scientists behind the research, which is published in the journal Scientific Reports.
This is weather, not climate
You need to have thirty years’ worth of data before you can “talk about climate,” says Professor Bo Elberling, an environmental geochemist and senior scientist on the study.
So we should be wary of discussing these results in the context of climate change, says Elberling, who is head of the Center for Permafrost (CENPERM) at the Department of Geosciences and Natural Resource Management at the University of Copenhagen, Denmark.
“What’s interesting here is that with these new data we have a unique description of the spatial distribution of surface temperatures across the entire ice-free part of Greenland, which we couldn’t pull out of the approximately 45 weather stations that cover Greenland today,” he says.
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Global warming is real
Professor Michael Tjernström, a meteorologist from Stockholm University, Sweden, agrees with this assessment.
The time series is too short to say anything about climate trends, he writes in an email to our sister site, Videnskab.dk.
“Give me a specific location and a short time series and you could get almost any trend. Over a large area and over longer time I’m sure Greenland is warming,” writes Tjernström, who was not involved in the study.
The results should be seen as a part of the natural swings in climate. While you might find a small drop in temperature at individual locations, the overall development is in one direction, he writes.
All scientists interviewed for this article agreed that the new study does not question the inescapable reality that the planet is getting warmer.
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Read more: http://sciencenordic.com/greenland’s-recent-temperature-drop-does-not-disprove-global-warming
The abstract of the study;
Contrasting temperature trends across the ice-free part of Greenland
Andreas Westergaard-Nielsen, Mojtaba Karami, Birger Ulf Hansen, Sebastian Westermann & Bo Elberling
Temperature changes in the Arctic have notable impacts on ecosystem structure and functioning, on soil carbon dynamics, and on the stability of permafrost, thus affecting ecosystem functions and putting man-built infrastructure at risk. Future warming in the Arctic could accelerate important feedbacks in permafrost degradation processes. Therefore it is important to map vulnerable areas most likely to be impacted by temperature changes and at higher risk of degradation, particularly near communities, to assist adaptation to climate change. Currently, these areas are poorly assessed, especially in Greenland. Here we quantify trends in satellite-derived land surface temperatures and modelled air temperatures, validated against observations, across the entire ice-free Greenland. Focus is on the past 30 years, to characterize significant changes and potentially vulnerable regions at a 1 km resolution. We show that recent temperature trends in Greenland vary significantly between seasons and regions and that data with resolutions down to single km2 are critical to map temperature changes for guidance of further local studies and decision-making. Only a fraction of the ice-free Greenland seems vulnerable due to warming when analyzing year 2001–2015, but the most pronounced changes are found in the most populated parts of Greenland. As Greenland represents important gradients of north/south coast/inland/distance to large ice sheets, the conclusions are also relevant in an upscaling to greater Arctic areas.
Read more: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-19992-w
Why do the scientists who published this data seem so skittish?
One reason may be that this study potentially undermines confidence in the methodology of the NASA GISS temperature series, one of the world’s major global temperature resources.
From the NASA website;
… Handling the Arctic
There are several reasons for the small discrepancies that exist between the three records. Most important, subtleties in the way the scientists from each institution handle regions of the world where temperature-monitoring stations are scarce produce differences.
While developed areas have a dense network of weather stations, temperature monitoring equipment is sparse in some parts of the Amazon, Africa, Antarctica, and Arctic. In the Arctic, particularly, the absence of solid land means there are large areas without weather stations.
The Met Office and the NCDC leave areas of the Arctic Ocean without stations out of their analyses, while GISS approaches the problem by filling in the gaps with data from the nearest land stations, up to a distance of 1200 kilometers (746 miles) away. In this way, the GISS analysis achieves near total coverage in the Arctic.
Both approaches pose problems. By not inferring data, the Met Office assumes that areas without stations have a warming equal to that experienced by the entire Northern Hemisphere, a value that satellite and field measurements suggest is too low given the rate of Arctic sea ice loss.
On the other hand, GISS’s approach may either overestimate or underestimate Arctic warming. “There’s no doubt that estimates of Arctic warming are uncertain, and should be regarded with caution,” Hansen said. “Still, the rapid pace of Arctic ice retreat leaves little question that temperatures in the region are rising fast, perhaps faster than we assume in our analysis.” …
Read more: https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20110113/
Infilling attempts to correct for absent temperature data in sparse regions like the Arctic. But this latest study has demonstrated … recent temperature trends in Greenland vary significantly between seasons and regions and that data with resolutions down to single km2 are critical to map temperature changes …. The NASA technique of using a single temperature station to represent up to 1200 kilometres of Arctic wilderness, then using climate models to help fill in the blanks, may be a lot less reliable than previously thought.
The world has warmed since the 1850s. But if parts of the Arctic have been cooling, when climate scientists assumed those regions were warming, the real warming trend might be less than some analysis suggest.
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I’m all for Climate Change, that’s why I bought an air conditioner.
Due to an interest in the debate about the degree to which climate change rather than economic factors caused the decline of the medieval Norse settlements in Greenland I was browsing the literature on NAO , assuming that it might be relevant to the southern tip of Greenland where the Eastern settlement lay. (the NAO literature is enormous and would take a lifetime to absorb). I came across this , published in 2013:
doi:10.1002/2013GL057877, 2013
NAO implicated as a predictor of Northern Hemisphere mean
temperature multidecadal variability
Jianping Li,1 Cheng Sun,1 and Fei-Fei Jin2
They predict a period of cooling for Northern Hemisphere , round about now:
-The twentieth century Northern Hemisphere mean surface temperature (NHT) is characterized by a multidecadal warming-cooling-warming pattern followed by a flat trend since about 2000 (recent warming hiatus). Here we demonstrate that the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) is implicated as a useful predictor of NHT multidecadal variability. Observational analysis shows that the NAO leads both the detrended NHT and oceanic Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) by 15–20 years. Theoretical analysis illuminates that the NAO precedes NHT multidecadal variability through its delayed effect on the AMO due to the large thermal inertia associated with slow oceanic processes. An NAO-based linear model is therefore established to predict the NHT, which gives an excellent hindcast for NHT in 1971–2011 with the recent flat trend well predicted. NHT in 2012–2027 is predicted to fall slightly over the next decades, due to the recent NAO decadal weakening that temporarily offsets the anthropogenically induced warming. Citation: Li, J.,
C. Sun, and F.-F. Jin (2013), NAO implicated as a predictor of Northern Hemisphere mean temperature multidecadal variability, Geophys. Res. Lett., 40, 5497–5502, doi:10.1002/2013GL057877.-
Some testable climate science! Whatever next?
There is a recent open access article that may be relevant to this discussion :
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-19992-w
Contrasting temperature trends across the ice-free part of Greenland
Andreas Westergaard-Nielsen1 , Mojtaba Karami1 , Birger Ulf Hansen1, Sebastian Westermann2
& Bo Elberling 1
Part of the abstract reads:
-“. We show that recent temperature trends in Greenland vary signifcantly between seasons
and regions and that data with resolutions down to single km2 are critical to map temperature changes
for guidance of further local studies and decision-making. Only a fraction of the ice-free Greenland
seems vulnerable due to warming when analyzing year 2001–2015, but the most pronounced changes
are found in the most populated parts of Greenland. As Greenland represents important gradients of
north/south coast/inland/distance to large ice sheets, the conclusions are also relevant in an upscaling
to greater Arctic areas.-
Among the summaries of the study is this sentence which could be of interest :
-“(2) Warming trends observed from 1986–2016 across the ice-free Greenland is mainly related to warming in the 1990’s. The most recent and detailed trends based on MODIS (2001–2015) shows contrasting trends
across Greenland, and if any general trend it is mostly a cooling. The MODIS dataset provides a unique
detailed picture of spatiotemporally distributed changes during the last 15 years.-
Nick Stokes
“Sea level is measured by altimetry.”
G’ Day Nick, Satellite altimetry measurements are subject to variation caused by natural influences such as: tide movement, barometric pressure variations, wave height, wind direction, thermal expansion and contraction. There are also the instrument limitations and errors such as atmospheric distortion, beam width, range discrimination, digitization error and orbital variations. When you are dealing with sea level rise of a few millimetres per year and variables that exceed the sea level rise by several orders of magnitude there is good reason to take satellite altimetry measurements with several grains of salt.
NASA has revised its sea level data for October 2017 on its official website.I don’t know what that means?
Greenland has always been covered with ice. It should be called Iceland. And Iceland should be called Bjork. Iceland is known for two things: volcanoes and Bjork
lol +10
To underline this point, consider lower troposphere temperature change observed in the Arctic region as a whole since the start of the satellite series (according to UAH). The warming rate since 1979 is +0.25C/dec, giving a total lower tropospheric warming of ~1.0C.
Arctic region is the column marked ‘NoPol’: https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0.txt
But it is not measuring the Temperature in the Arctic, it is measuring the Heat leaving the Arctic.
Only ground based measurements can do so.
And temperatures at Nuuk are no higher now than in the 1930s and 40s
“We need 30 years of data to talk about climate”
This only applies to cooler temperatures, of course. For a warming climate, a one-day record for a single station is plenty.
Shouldn’t there be tens of thousands of pictures available showing the sea level rise around the world for the past 100+ years? Back then those people wouldn’t even have heard the phrase “climate change”.
Why bother reporting it if it scares them that much. Run!!
“You need 30 years of weather to find a climate trend”.
Please tell that to the climate hype industry which declares every weather event “proof” of global warming.
Greenland melting? Global warming.
Greenland gaining ice? Climste change.
A storm? Extreme weather.
Nothing happening?
Ignore it.
So the weather is getting colder in the populated, non-glaciated part of Greenland, where there are thermometers to record real temperature data.
But these “scientists” assume that the ice-covered, unpopulated areas of Greenland must be getting warmer even if they have no data, just “because” their models say so?
If they’re so convinced that it’s getting warmer on the Greenland icecap, why don’t the scientists move up there and bask in the warm weather all winter, and bring a thermometer?
“It says here its colder than it is.”
By this time next week it will be not just Greenland getting colder.
Canada along with the mid and eastern USA, plus northern Russia and much of europe look set to join them. But the the Arctic looks set for some sudden warming so the AWG crowd will just say its due to global warming. 🙂
Greenland, the icy island nation in the Arctic, gets its name from an Icelandic murderer exiled there, who called it “Greenland” in hopes that the name would attract settlers. But it turns out that long ago, Greenland was actually quite green.
It is rather curious that all the adjustments to the raw data moved it in one direction only. Having measured temperature in physical property labs for 29 years using every sort of thermocouple, platinum resistance thermometer, thermistor, and liquid in glass thermometer; I can’t think of a measurement uncertainty or bias that always made the past colder. Perhaps the Stevenson screens were painted progressively darker shades of gray in the past?
Iceland temperatures comparing a negative PDO phase with a positive PDO phase.
Years Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
1931-1970 -0.7 -0.7 0.3 2.6 6.7 9.7 11.2 10.7 8.2 4.3 1.6 -0.1 4.5
1975-2004 -1.3 -0.7 -0.3 2.3 6.0 9.1 10.9 10.6 7.3 3.7 1.0 -0.6 4.0
Iceland was colder during the more recent years when the NAO and AO become more positive with a zonal jet stream.
Southern Greenland temperatures comparing a negative PDO phase with a positive PDO phase.
Years Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
1931-1970 -7.1 -7.2 -6.3 -3.2 1.8 5.3 7.2 6.7 3.9 -0.2 -3.4 -5.9 -0.7
1975-2004 -7.7 -8.3 -8.1 -3.7 0.6 4.1 6.4 6.1 3.5 -0.4 -3.5 -6.1 -1.4
Southern Greenland was also colder during the more recent years when the NAO and AO become more positive with zonal jet stream.
Oh boy, the good professor fell into the unintended prediction trap a la Ben Santer re the hiatus! -You need at least a decade of no warming before you start thinking about falsifying CAGW theory- When it reached 18 years it caused the notorious “Climate Blues” epidemic from doubt about Global Warming that pole axed a number of climate scientist believers right out of their careers. Karlization if temperatures followed to unceremoniously stop the hiatus in its tracks and prevent the Blues taking down the remaining low integrity climateer stalwarts.
In the present case -the Prof says the cooling of non-ice-covered parts of Greenland since 2000 is only weather! You need 30 years of it to talk about a climate signal. Strangely Prof missed the opportunity to observe that this cooling coincided with the Dreaded Pause! One thing eminently predictable is the ironical hubris of the climate sorcerers. I’m betting on the cooling of Greenland to reach the 30 year deadline – 12 years to go.
Other Danish researchers find that NE Grenland glaciers are melting not because of “global warming”, but from geothermal heating.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-19244-x
“We need 30 years of weather data to disprove Global Warming”
Oh dear, I give you 50 years with rising CO2 levels of weather data that disproves global warming between 1931 and 1980.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1931/to:1980/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1931/to:1980/trend
BUT we ignore that because of negative ocean cycles and blame positive ocean cycles instead.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/nsidc-seaice-n/from:1979/normalise/plot/esrl-amo/from:1979
As a pilot you are taught to trust your instruments not your senses or instinct. Especially at night or in low visibility.