Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Willie Soon & Breitbart – Bill Nye wants to “engage everybody”, get everyone on board his global warming action bandwagon by punishing “hillbillies” and imposing economic sanctions on red states which don’t comply with his climate demands.
Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States
… Nye said, “Only 40 percent of people in the U.S. think that Congress should be addressing this and that’s because certain conservative groups, especially from the fossil fuel industry, have been very successful in introducing the idea that scientific uncertainty, plus or minus two percent, is the same as plus or minus 100 percent.”
He continued, “There’s a lot of emphasis from conservatives on what are writ-large states rights. Just watch out, conservatives, if states rights include California, Illinois, New York — these places that, where people voted in a progressive fashion — watch out if all those places start to address climate change and then impose economic sanctions, either overtly or by default, on places that have not embraced the work that needs to be done. Then you’ll end up with this states rights working the other way.”
He added, “We’ve got to remind people that we’re all in this together. The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies. We want to engage everybody. Not working to address climate change is in no one’s best interest. It is not in the best interest, especially of your children and grandchildren. …
Read more (includes a video): http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/29/bill-nye-blue-states-will-impose-economic-sanctions-climate-change-denying-states/
In the video Bill Nye also said “we’ve got to get everybody working together, the same way people were working together in world war 2“. Bill Nye’s plan for getting people to work together, for achieving unity, is to call people names and threaten economic war against states which don’t embrace his policy recommendations.
My question – if Bill Nye really believes renewables are cheaper and more reliable than fossil fuels, why does he feel the need to make economic threats and call people names?
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At least us hillbillies aren’t in it alone. Our neighbors to the north have their own goofy science guy: http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/david-suzuki-on-the-last-great-fight-of-his-life-i-know-god-damn-well-im-in-a-limited-period-of-time-now
I’m guessing Suzuki wants that change made now while his party is in power, not later when someone else is in power.
“…[W]e’re saying we need a change in our charter of rights and freedoms.” –David Suzuki
Got a mouse in ‘is pocket, does ‘e?
Shocking news:
Bill Nye proposes economic sanctions against non complying States, such as Sanctuary States.
He ruined his argument straight away by calling anyone who doesn’t agree with him a Hillbilly.
This guy really needs to be put out of his misery.
Libalism is a mental illness as often noted here in comments. Now it is intersecting with Trump reality to create the modern phenomenon of Trump Derangement Syndrome. TDS is now claiming many so-called celebrities, comedians, and media personalities. Bill Nye is undoubtedly suffering from TDS. This statement is just one such manifestation.
Unless he gets professional help and a steady diet of Xanax, it is likely to worsen. This is afterall just year 1 finishing from President Trump. TDS is just getting going in Progressives. Expect the rhetoric to worsen in 2018.
Liberalism ( not Libalsm). errr.
Joelobryan: Are you sure you made the right correction? The left likes to sue opponents into science. So instead of changing “libalism” to “liberalism”, maybe it should be changed to “libelism.”
In my experience, liberals use law suits to counter science, not force people into it.
Liarism
“science” should have bee “silence”
Bees aren’t silent, they buzz.
Maybe he’s already on some kind of psychotropic drugs that enable his delusions. Supposedly MANY people are on some sort of prescription meds.
Seen in a lab at Texas Intruments: “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.”
As an engineer I worked with idiots like Bill Nye all of the time. Theoretically smart, but practically stupid. If the theory makes sense, they are in 1000% even if it can be clearly shown that in the real world the theory breaks down. They also typically couldn’t install a ceiling fan on their own to save their ass.
Most engineers are bight and can follow complex material, employ challenging cook book approaches and can build upon experience. Some are thinkers, and see more deeply better understanding the complexity of interactions. The former have lot of faith, so much it can create blind spots. The later more humble and thorough.
I know an electrical engineer that I wouldn’t trust to install a lightbulb.
He actually called me from a Job once to ask me what Kelvin is.
At my first commercial nuke plant after the navy, I had a mechanical engineer from my alma mater ask me what NPSH was. It is a practical concept that they do not spend much time in college but a critical design parameter for pumps. He was becoming a good engineer because of the willingness to ask questions.
A second ME took his new defective lawn mower back to Sears. Sears gave him a new mower and oil to in it. On several other occasions I learned he had no aptitude for engineering.
A third ME from my company was working with me at the pant on a pump problem. I suggested that he go for lunch. I had his badge pulled. He was dangerous and my responsibility. He belonged at a desk in an office building.
Aptitude is a big factor. I joined the navy to be an electronics tech. The navy needed machinist mates. Testing shows I have strong mechanical aptitude compared to electrical. Really good at chemistry too.
There was a time when many electrical control devices were mechanical. Then came solid state. How does the voltage regulator work on my generator? PFM! Pure effin magic!
Real world engineering. You are assigned a task and then figure it out. I have tried saying I am not an EE. Then I do it and send it to a EE for review. It is funny to get schooled by an expert.
Bill Nye the science lie. He is his own worst enemy. I am so tired of these rich people who live lavish lifestyles telling others to suffer and cut back. They are all hypocrites and then they mystified that the public dismiss them and their phony messages.
I’m amazed they haven’t huddled up to think through what really went wrong. They’ve just gotten mad! Hill’s book “What Happened” would have maybe been a useful start if it had a question mark or or exclamation mark in the title. She had a few dozen different people and countries that she blamed for her demise, not even suspecting for a moment that it could just be her fault and what she represents.
Nye is behaving exactly the same. The folks and their party will be out for a generation or two at this rate. Apparently millennial are coming over to Trump! I think they like the iconoclastic aspect elites were too phoney and boring.
Lefties DO huddle up, but when they put their arms around each other they get sidetracked and forget why they came. And the next morning’s embarrassment turns into anger. Does that help?
F.Leghorn: There are now guidelines to avoid that kind of thing. NBC issued them. (Guess they can’t afford to lose any more people.)
“WTF Happened”
Piper Paul, exactly! That’s what the book should have been called if she had an honest thought in her head!!
Scratch a shiny green progressive and underneath you will find a dark totalitarian. ALWAYS.
Nye makes the AGW crowd look bad. He is not an expert on climate or anything scientific. He would make an okay high school science teacher, that’s it.
“He would make an okay high school science teacher, that’s it.”
He would get eaten alive (figuratively of course).
Why “of course”?
Wouldn’t want students with food poisoning.
That’s why cow with “mad cow disease” are not eaten but disposed of.
How odd that not one of the normal AGW stalwarts has come out to defend Silly Billy. 😉
Imposing defacto economic sanctions on red states for a generation or more is exactly what led to the vote for Trump. If you “progressives” (sic indeed) don’t get more introspective about why you were turfed out on your a55e5 in the election and make some huge changes, you guys will out be of office for a couple of generations and then you’ll have to learn how to work for a living instead of thatching your nests without taxpayers money. Maybe the red states will put a huge tax on fossil fuels that you need by the tankerloads in your global travel, destructive agendas, multiple homes and big cars.
What in heck do you think you have in the blue coastal fringe that you can hold back from the red states to punish them? That’s the trouble with you out of touch ugly, mean folks, you’ve dumbed yourselves down with your own policies. Talking points and Alinsky rules arent going to cut it in the newly changed world. I think things are so out of whack with “progressives” that new thinking blood in your party will have to rise one funeral at a time, if I can borrow from Max Planck’s view on how science advances.
The Democrat party consoles itself with the idea that all the bitter old white guys who support the Republicans will die off. The thing is that we have an upcoming generation who don’t get solid permanent jobs. Their lives are permanently precarious. They get no support from the Democrat elite who view them as unworthy. The Republicans have the opportunity to pick up those people, make their lives better, and govern for decades. It really is the economy stupid.
And they fail to see their own leadership of recent years, Al Gore, Harry Reid, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton as the rich old white men that they are.
The irony, of course, is that he is admitting that the solution to his problem (no matter how imaginary) is capitalism.
Sorry Bill, couldn’t find the right colour. But here’s a new bow tie for you.
Andy, how many megawatts is that?
Minus 50% at least.
Oh and Bill? Take off that cheery bow tie if your going to walk around with your face two feet long and steam coming out of your ears. I think you’re still mad about finding out you werent the right demographic to lead the March for Pseudo Science Matters parade last summer.
“In the video Bill Nye also said “we’ve got to get everybody working together, the same way people were working together in world war 2“.”
Well, because of course, WW2 was an ACTUAL serious problem otherwise he would be speaking a language other than English.
If you don’t defeat the AGW ‘one-world government’, anti-capitalist Agenda,…
…. who knows what language you will be speaking !!
Cantonese, Mandarin or both? I know I can configure a IBM PS/2 with Kanji BIOS. Does that count?
Mugabe may be UN secretary general by then !
“AndyG55 December 31, 2017 at 4:00 am”
Mugabe is gone, with his estimated US$90bil fortune, shame about his army and “mates”. Most Zimbabeweans are jubilant Mugabe is “gone”, however his “legacy”, and his “bullyboy-i-got-an-ak47-so-do-as-i-say” mates, will be around for a long long time to come IMO.
“AndyG55 December 31, 2017 at 4:00 am”
Helen Clarke of NZ and Rudd of Aus trashed both countries to secure a position at the UN. Not heard about either suggests they were successful.
Don’t be concerned….. There are plenty of despots looking for the job !!
Despots truly are a renewable resource.
We truly live in Orwellian times, engage means accept our dictatorial terms – no debate allowed. Segregation is now safe spaces, and bigotry, via white privilege classes and the like, is acceptable. Do we live in the 21st century or are we back to the mid to early 20th? In Orwellian double speak progressivism is merely another word for totalitarianism and Bill Nye seems to enjoy his jack boots!
Reply to Patrick MJD,
Helen Clarke of New Zealand lost an an election to John Key of the National party ( right of center ) nine years ago and immediately resigned and took up a top job at the UN.
She stood for the Secretary General of the UN but was unsuccessful even though Keys govervment supported her .
After nine years of strong government lead by Key the National party was defeated in last years election when a few weeks out the Labour party (Democrats ) changed their leader to a 37 year old women Jacinda Ardern .
Although the Labour party recived less votes than National, through a quirk in our MMP voting system they are our new government in a coalition .
I will stick my neck out and predict that when Jacinda loses an election she to will head to the UN .
It is well known that Helen Clarke still has a great deal of influence in the New Zealand Labour party
Yes – very likely but not before she stuffs the country- already appointed James Shaw (Green Party) as Climate Change minister.
agreed She is on pretty shaky ground leading a mish mash bunch of lefty green and right leaning politicans – so as a Helen acolyte she will likely follow in her footsteps
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What’s a real worry, esp in schools here in Australia, he is shown to students as a genuine science guy. The number of times my daughter comes home telling me about one of his videos she say that day. One thing I am glad about, she, usually, can’t recall the actual subject of the video. That demonstrates to me that either she isn’t too smart (She is smart, she speaks 4 languages and she is only 10) or that the subject matter is so boring to the extreme, she completely ignores it.
The man is a fool. I dont read or view anything he originates, and encourage others to do likewise.
Ha ha. The eco-commie states are going to lay the big stick on the states that believe in economic growth and energy abundance by hobbling their own eco-state economies into utter non-competitiveness. “If you don’t do what I say I’m going to shoot myself in the knee!”
Like a kid holding his breath during a temper tantrum. In both cases, they’ll just end up gasping for air.
The child passes out if you wait long enough and the child is persistent enough. Do you think Bill might actually pass out?
What is he really saying? What he is saying is,He is saying he will impose the violent, military tactic of blockade.What he is saying is, “if you do not allow us to control everything you do (which is what control of power and what you may do with it is), we will HURT YOUR CHILDREN”.
(Snipped out the obvious libel statement made against Bill N) MOD
Does this sound extreme? Well, if he has his way, you will be out of a job, then homeless and starving, how will that effect your family, your children? How is what he is saying any different in effect than a military blockade?
Meanwhile, if it is war they want…the red states should cut off their power, see how long they can last with “green power” (which is neither green (see birdchoppers, sometimes known as windmills, which should be named deathmills) nor power, see S. Australia.
And, since he is calling for blockade, war, can he be picked up right now for treason? And he has now put himself right in the path of the interstate commerce clause.
The AGW conjecture depends on the existance of a radiant greenhouse effect provided by trace gases in the Earth’s atmosphere with LWIR absorption bands. A radiant greenhouse effect has not been observed in a real greenhouse, on Earth, or anywhere else in the solar system. The radiant greenhouse effect is sceince finction. Hence the AGW conjecture is sceince fiction. It is a matter of sceince. Bile Nye his hence a science deneier.
I think it is very revealing that Nye mentions conservative groups that aren’t falling for the scam that are continuing to use science and logic to determine the truth.
This is because much of the hoax is useful to leftists who virtue signal off the back of it, whilst the more radical marxists need global warming to be a reality to further western civilisation failure.
Science aside, this is a big part of what we are looking at here.
What do you do when all the propaganda that your all quadrillion$ can buy is failing, and conservative groups and an awakening general public work out that it’s all a giant hoax?
The good old fall-back position – in a word –”Mandatory”.
Way to go, Bill
Nye mentions New York, California and Illinois as the places where “progressive” voters are taking climate action. Let’s see…
https://www.brookings.edu/research/growth-carbon-and-trump-state-progress-and-drift-on-economic-growth-and-emissions-decoupling/
Texas has had one of the fastest decarbonizations among US states since 2000; only four economically-small states (plus DC) have done better. New York is a little bit behind Texas, California is way behind (in line with the national average), and Illinois just barely avoids dead-last place. The fact that Texas has *also* had faster economic growth than any of these places is the cherry on top.
The conclusion is obvious: climate leader Texas should impose economic sanctions on climate laggards like California and Illinois.
Mind you Texas is using Carbon capture from coal to enhance oil recovery and making a huge profit out of it. New York and California won’t allow production of fossil fuels. I’m a mining man and even I could produce oil like crazy in California. These idiots are just letting these resources ooze out on the seafloor.
http://www.soscalifornia.org/natural-oil-seepage-facts/
I predict a Republican government will soon get elected there when they see the economies of other states growing under Trump policies. They’ll make CA a huge oil producer and they’ll never look back. The economic benefits Cali gets from Trump will be sucked by the Looney state government and thats when they will knock themselves out! They’ll be a new kind of red. Maybe Hollywood will shut up, too. Why is it know-nothings are so attracted to policy making?
The Left is always very shouty. Deep down they know the facts are against them and this produces enormous pain.
Same old same old complaining about fossil-fuel funding of skeptical views without ever naming names, when there are so many skeptics lining up to say they’ve never received any such monies but would love to get some.
He is also one of those apparently in denial about why Trump won and not realising why doubling down on insulting the voters and making threats is possibly the best way to lose the next election too.
Having said that, he did make an interesting remark about not particularly blaming Trump directly, but blaming his advisers instead. That seems like a new tack. Might it possibly be the beginning of an admission that the previous tactics weren’t working?
In the 50s we thought McCarthy was an idiot….
Only the liberals thought he was an idiot.
They still do.
All of them? The vote was 65 to 22, as I said, the liberals hated him.
I’m guessing that English isn’t your first language, “enough” in that sentence modifies the noun idiot.
You wrote “All of McCarthy’s fellow Senators”, that’s a declaration that opposition to McCarthy was 100%, it was not.
Rob, you are making the common mistake in believing that Republican equals conservative.
Especially back then, many Republicans were to the left of many Democrats. Especially the northeastern ones.