Guest essay by Alberto Zaragoza Comendador
Climate scientists don’t usually propose anything specific to ‘tackle climate change’ other than, well, doing something. Because according to them nothing is being done, or at least nothing was being done until very recently.
(Apparently, in climate scientists’ minds the $4 trillion invested in renewable electricity between 2000 and 2016, and hundreds of billions invested in non-electric renewable energy, count as nothing).
While some may interpret this lack of detail as a sign that they don’t want to politicize the issue, those of us who follow the debate know many climate scientists don’t exactly make a big effort to stay apolitical. Thus in this article I put forward another hypothesis: climate scientists are clueless about energy and the economy. Knowing little to nothing on what has been and could be done, or even how to measure progress in reducing emissions, their exhortations and pontifications remain as vague as any motivational quote you may find lying around on the interwebz.
The point of climate scientists’ comments is not to spur debate on what should be done to deal with climate change, for such a debate would instantly turn to the colossal failure of climate policies over the last 20 years. The point is to ridicule the ‘skeptic’ side and portray themselves as martyrs.
Climate scientists don’t get that emissions are driven by economic growth
That may sound harsh, but what else could you conclude looking at tweets like these?
Let’s see, Gavin Schmidt looks at the chart, sees emissions were rising until 2008 or so, then started to decline. On this basis he concludes that pulling out of Kyoto delayed the opportunities for emissions reduction, i.e. that emissions would have started to decline earlier if not for the Kyoto pullout. But he completely ignores the role of GDP.
A decline of emissions does not mean that ‘climate policy is working’: it may simply be that the economy has collapsed (see Syria, Greece). On the other hand, an increase in emissions does not mean that climate policy has failed: it may simply be that the economy is booming. What you have to do is look at the efficiency of GDP per unit of CO2 emitted, and the rate at which this efficiency is increasing – which I call the decarbonization rate.
In fact, as I showed in this article, the US economy’s decarbonization rate did not decline after Bush pulled out of Kyoto. If anything the economy started to decarbonize faster! (The chart shows a trailing 5-year mean).
Looking at GDP it’s obvious that pulling out of Kyoto was a non-event. Logical, as Kyoto itself was a non-event too. By the way, the US decarbonization rate was a bit faster than the European Union at the same time!
The mother of all cherrypicks: the last three years prove that climate policies work, but the previous fifty don’t count!
The ‘news’ that CO2 emissions stayed more or less flat in 2016 (actually known since at least four months ago) has provided scientists with a fresh opportunity to retweet each other’s cluelessness.
See Jon Foley:
Or Scott Denning:
Or Victor Venema:
Or Stefan Rahmstorf:
Again, the scientists completely ignore the role of the economy. Haven’t they heard about the term confounder? Well, it turns out the global economy has grown quite a bit more slowly over the last three years than in most of the historical records, so of course emissions will grow more slowly too.
In this article I showed the decarbonization of global GDP since records start in 1965; I couldn’t be bothered to update the chart so as to include 2016, but the rate was about the same as in 2015, i.e. a bit over 2%.
While the decarbonization rate of the last 3 years is higher than the historical average, it’s not an outlier by any means. With oil and gas up strongly in 2017, and coal up in the main three markets, it’s almost a given that CO2 emissions this year will rise by at least 1% – bringing the decarbonization rate again below 2%.
Most importantly: the compound rate since climate policies started being implemented (whether one picks 1997, 2000, etc. doesn’t make much difference) is well below the historical average! From 2000 to 2017, it’s 0.7% according to my calculations – about half the pre-2000 level. Put other way: emissions today are higher than they would’ve been if they had simply kept their pre-Kyoto trend.
If the typical decarbonization rate is 1.4%, and you have 17 years averaging 0.5%, then of course you would expect the rate to bounce up again – and maybe overshoot the historical average for a few years. It happens in all kinds of time series data. For instance, after the devastation of World War II European economies grew faster than ever. Fast economic growth rates are not a surprise after a period of awful (in this case negative) rates.
Nobody who has a clue about historical emissions would say that the last three years represent a ‘turning point’, or evidence that climate policies are working. It would take several more years of faster-than-average decarbonization to conclude that policies may be working.
I’ll finish this section with another tweet from Mr Denning:
No one with any idea of emissions and the economy would use the term ‘decoupling’. The economy nearly always grows faster than CO2 emissions, and if it grows slowly then CO2 emissions may fall. There’s no ‘decoupling’ around that – it’s what has always happened, though usually Western economies grew too fast for emissions to decline.
Let’s say GDP grows 0.1% and emissions decline 0.1%. Would you say these two things have decoupled?
“No meaningful action was taken”
Okay, I mentioned this pet delusion of many scientists and activists at the beginning of the article. But I just couldn’t resist posting this deranged tweetstorm:
If no meaningful action was taken, well, what was the point of the 22 COP meetings? Are we supposed to believe Fox News and the Koch brothers blocked climate action in Bulgaria, Ethiopia, Bangladesh… ?
Republicans bad, Democrats good
The supposedly apolitical scientists seem to have rather strong political preferences for one particular side. Earlier we saw how the US under Bush actually decarbonized faster than the EU at the same time, yet somehow Bush was always vilified as something of a climate anti-Christ (see the Gavin Schmidt tweets at the beginning). Please notice that I’m not saying anything Bush did caused the decarbonization rate – surely it was just a coincidence. (Though it does speak reflect badly on the sanctimonious EU).
To climate scientists, if a state is run by Democrats and claims to be doing a lot to ‘tackle climate change’, then it must obviously be doing something ‘better for the climate’. This article is getting long so one tweet will suffice.
Well, most of the cities claiming to ‘lead the fight against climate change’ are lucky in that there are no good data on city-level CO2 emissions. But there are data on state-level emissions. Here’s California, climate leader according to Mr Foley:
The chart shows a decline in GHG emissions per GDP unit of 26% between 2000 and 2014. that’s the same as 35% increase in GHG efficiency of GDP (1 / 0.74). Over 14 years, that’s a compound decarbonization rate of 2.3%… which is pretty much the same as that of the US as a whole.
So climate leader California was actually doing just as badly (or well) as the rest of the country. Ooops.
‘If only we had listened…’
If one does not know how quickly one may realistically draw down emissions, and instead relies on fantasy scenarios, then one cannot what would have happened if we had listened to climate scientists and started reducing emissions years ago. I can’t remember how many times I’ve heard a version of ‘we should have listened’ or ‘we’re running out of time’. Hell, see the tweets by Jon Foley above: ‘the rest of us will pay the price for this delay’.
But just how expensive has the delay been? One never hears how much warming we could have avoided – surely that data point matters a lot! So I estimated it: if a stronger (higher) decarbonization had started way back in 1979, the difference in current temperatures would be about 0.05ºC – no kidding.
The decarbonization rate historically was about 1.4%, i.e. GDP grew about 1.4% faster than CO2 emissions on average; it’s about 1.1% when including the period after 2000. If we raise the decarbonization rate by another 1% the effect by the end of the century is less than 0.5ºC! Obviously, whether this higher level of decarbonization started in 1979, 2000, or 2030 is nearly irrelevant. The difference is a matter of 0.1 or 0.2ºC at most.
Scientists get to claim that mitigation can have a massive effect in temperatures by:
a) Relying on computer models instead of climate sensitivity calculated from historical temperature data. While equilibrium climate sensitivity remains rather uncertain, there is greater agreement on the transient climate response, which is what matters for warming this century.
b) Including a lot of ‘avoided warming’ from reductions in emissions that don’t come from fossil fuels. This is nonsense, as these emissions are unverifiable – and so are any ‘reductions’. Besides, over 80% of the man-made climate forcing in recent years comes from CO2, and 80-90% of that is from fossil fuels.
c) Assuming an absurdly high ‘baseline’ scenario which they fraudulently call ‘business as usual’. See, under business-as-usual I’d be burning heaps of coal in my backyard; since I don’t actually do that, I must have reduced emissions a lot!
If a knucklehead like me can run the math, surely so can a guy with a Ph D. But first the guy with the Ph D would need to show some curiosity about the issue, download data on economic growth, visit other website to get the data on emissions, etc. And why research an issue when you can tweet nonsense?
In conclusion
Please, notice that in pointing out scientists’ ignorance I’m not claiming to be an expert; the topic of energy, economy and CO2 emissions is massive and my own understanding is rudimentary. But it’s better than that of any scientist I quoted in this article.
Climate scientists, at least many of them, appear to be completely clueless about most climate things that may actually matter to the rest of us. They don’t know how much emissions are increasing or decreasing, the relationship between emissions and the economy, whether different countries and states have had success or not in reducing emissions. They never mention how much money it may cost to prevent the release of one ton of CO2. They hardly ever talk about decarbonization rates. And so on and on.
They’re ignorant. But the world shouldn’t be hostage to their ignorance.
PS: of course, the ‘but you don’t recommend anything’ accusation is often levelled against skeptics as well. So here’s a specific recommendation on tackling climate change: do nothing.
“Thus in this article I put forward another hypothesis: climate scientists are clueless about energy and the economy. ”
Well duh! I am an expert in making electricity which precludes me from being an expert on climate. There are different skill sets.
Along the way, I have become good at solving problems. The first step is ranking problems and working on them in the order of importance. Rolling blackouts caused by a shortage of generating capacity is a huge problem while climate change is about as insignificant problem as one could find.
How do you wake up a WWII vet suffering a malaria relapse? Very carefully! How many polio survivors do you know? Many! Who would not allow their baby to be vaccinated for whooping cough? Although our oldest had a serious reaction and could not fully be immunized, all our children were vaccinated for serious problems.
I am skeptical of climate change because those who express concerns do not change their lifestyles and call for pixie dust solutions.
Texas Governor Bush and later POTUS Bush focused on a reliable energy supply fist and also was a leader in promoting renewable energy and nuclear power.
a “huge problem?”
where?
i’ve never experienced on of these
Unreliable electricity is not a big problem for individuals, but it is for industry (e.g., aluminum smelters and silicon wafer makers), hospitals, fire depts., police depts, traffic lights, airports, broadcasters, etc.
Do less than nothing if you include what climate scientist are doing as doing something. “Don’t just do something, stand there!”
what exactly do you think
climate scientists should be
doing?
Finding another job!
something useful…
It would be nice if they could start doing science.
At the risk of being ridiculous, EVs should be replaced by riding milk cow for personal transportation. The ghg is attributed to milk production. The dairy cows could be re-purposed by providing ‘cow pool lanes’, feeding stations, and fertilizer collection stations.
wrong – the ghg is attributed
to enteric fermentation and then
cow burps
Not wrong!
We ‘need’ food, clean drinking water, and energy to stay alive. Activities to satisfy the needs of a society also have environmental impacts. We ‘attribute’ the impact to the activity. Some of us look at ways to reduce the impact.
However, we live in a society where few have to think about ‘needs’ anymore. Having a clean environment is something we want.
One of the reasons air quality was bad where I grew was heating houses with coal. We solved that problem.
Driving an electric car is a ‘want’. What I am suggesting is that riding a dairy cow would reduce ghg.
The idea is laughable. In fact my wife and her sister got a good laugh out of it. They grew up on a dairy farm and did ride the cows.
Having a logical argument with linear cretins is wearying, but here goes on the subject of cattle and methane emissions:
Riddle me this. What is the difference between using biomass for fuel and using cows to “burn” biomass to make food products, leather, etc? The idea that it is okay to cut down hardwood forests in America to burn in UK power stations because the trees grow back, or burn corn and palm oil in cars is no different. They raise the methane non issue because even they can see the illogicality of it. Since every bit of cow flatus released into the air from time immemorial to 2007 has been converted to CO2 molecule for molecule (plus water), it is a non problem. Moreover these animals probably reduce wildfires by chewing up and stomping down grass and shrubbery. Hey, we humans killed off millions of buffalo on the prairies, and earlier finished off mammoth and mastodons so we reduced the methane release of earlier times!!
the difference is that the enteric
processes of cows produces methane,
not co2.
You really are CRACKERS, aren’t you!?
Gosh Gary, I hope you do not think you presented a logical argument and are anything more than a linear cretin.
Gary used a tactic of asking a ridiculous question.
Burning wood waste to make electricity is clearly an economical and better than practices of open burning.
Harvesting wood is a well established occupation. We are not cutting down our forests. Forested land is increasing. As is harvesting corn.
It has been clearly shown that American foresters and farmers can produce more it there is a market. It can also be shown that harvesting the energy reduces environmental impact.
Understanding this does require more complex thinking.
Here a question for Gary. Could it be that we do things a new way because it is better?
This article is empty rhetoric. The climate scientists are quite clear in their recommendations: Emit less carbon. Move from fossil fuels to wind and solar power.
The move away from coal and towards cleaner-burning natural gas fueled the improvement in the Bush years. A move to electric and hybrid vehicles could do likewise in the future. Trump’s actions in reversing limits imposed by the Obama Administration on coal emissions will reverse the progress.
The Great Tecession was brought on by Bush and reversed by Obama, but despite that reversal, energy-related carbon emissions declined thanks to less coal-fired energy and more gas and green-generated energy and better automotive fuel efficiency.
Of course “Democrats good, Republicans bad” on carbon emission issues. Trump has missed no opportunity to reverse restrictions on methane emissions and coal-fired plants, with little to no resistance from GOP-ers, who are owned by the fossil fuel issues and are as incoherent on climate issues as Zaragosa.
This article is empty rhetoric. The climate scientists are quite clear in their recommendations: Emit less carbon. Move from fossil fuels to wind and solar power.
The move away from coal and towards cleaner-burning natural gas fueled the improvement in the Bush years. A move to electric and hybrid vehicles could do likewise in the future. Trump’s actions in reversing limits imposed by the Obama Administration on coal emissions will reverse the progress.
The Great Tecession was brought on by Bush and reversed by Obama, but despite that reversal, energy-related carbon emissions declined thanks to less coal-fired energy and more gas and green-generated energy and better automotive fuel efficiency.
Of course “Democrats good, Republicans bad” on carbon emission issues. Trump has missed no opportunity to reverse restrictions on methane emissions and coal-fired plants, with little to no resistance from GOP-ers, who are owned by the fossil fuel issues and are as incoherent on climate issues as Zaragosa.
There’s no mention of the rise in usage of natural gas during this period.Natural gas probably has as much to do with CO2 leveling off than was a stagnant economy.
Crackers, you are working on the incorrect assumption that because GHGs are rising and temperature is also rising that one has caused the other. For you to be correct you would have to prove that the rise in temperature could not have been caused by natural cycles which you can’t. Remember that there isn’t a shred of proof that GHG increase causes increase in temperature, that any significant warming is happening, that increased GHG’s cause any climate change, that what is happening now wrt temperature is unprecedented, that ice ages occur at maximum CO2 and warm again with minimum CO2 or that CO2 level has ever caused temperature increase. Remember it is you that has to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that increasing GHG’s have, can or will ever produce the effects that you claim. Come on, some science please.
Co2 emmisions have not risen in a few years. That’s great news! Let’s see what happens after Trump is president for a few years. Maybe it will continue to hold steady, mayne it will drop, or maybe it will rise. I don’t have an expert opinion, because I’m not a climate scientist. I see that you, however, are an expert in climate science. When did you receive your phD in the subject, Mr. Ethos?
In reply to Cracker 345
Look this is so simple even my grand children at primary school can understand this
.600 million tonnes of methane is emitted into the atmosphere each year.
Have you got that .Cracker 345
The amount of methane in the atmosphere only increased per year by 7 million tonnes on average ..
. Have you got that Cracker .
What happened to the other 593 million tonnes ?
It is broken down into CO2 and H2O in the upper atmosphere .The average life of methane in the atmosphere is 8.4 years
Did you get that Cracker
The CO2 and the H2O is absorbed by vegetation to grow and the higher the CO2 the better plants grow..
Did you get that Cracker
Livestock eat vegetation .
In the process a small portion of the carbohydrate is converted in the digestive system into methane and is emitted .
And the carbon cycle continues
Do you get that Cracker
I understand the carbon cycle What does cycle mean Cracker? get on your bike ?
A CO2 molecule contains one atom of carbon and two atoms of oxygen .
A CH4 molecule contains one atom of carbon and four atoms of hydrogen .
Do you know what CH4 is Cracker
In New Zealand we call people like you a Dumb B———-;;
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Bad enough climate scientists don’t understand economics but they believe economies are unnecessary to civilization. With out economies we devolve into a state of survival of the fittest. The strong take from the weak until there is nothing left to take.
Doubt it? look back in history. How about the Danes deciding that they wanted a better place to live so decide to invade the kingdoms of Briton. We don’t Trade in goods and services, we don’t need economy and growth we will just kill you and take what you have. If we spare your life, we will make you our slaves and you can plow the fields and grow food for us.
The alarmists yearn for a pre industrial society but what they will achieve, if they succeed, is a return to the dark ages.
With regard to Bush pulling out of Kyoto, note that although Clinton signed the Kyoto Protocol, it was not ratified in the US Senate and went down in 1997 by a vote of 95-0. That’s right, VP Al Gore could not get anyone to vote for it. In fact, he and Clinton encouraged votes against it for reasons that sounded very similar to Trump’s case for abandoning the Paris Accord. I suspect that Gore didn’t want to do anything to tank the economy right before his election bid. Also note how Clinton does the politically correct thing by signing the protocol and then encourages the Senate to vote against it so they get the blame.
Dear Mr. Zaragoza Comendador,
in your article, you mention that you are no „expert“ and that your understanding of the problem here is rudimentary. Nevertheless, you describe the relation between GDP and CO2-emissions absolutely correct. In an enclosed economic area, the correlation between GDP and the used carbon containing primary energy sources is mandatory and thus a solid parameter. Thus, the emitted amount of CO2 for each dollar can be determined directly by every dollar of the GDP. This correlation is irrefutable only if it is unambiguously clear how this GDP developed. Clearing this can be done with the “Cost-Energy Equivalence Law”. The worldwide production of all physical and intellectual values and with it the GDP is possible only with the use of energy, and it is based on a fundamental physical law, the Second Law of Thermodynamics. In a scientific work, I proved this connection and published it 2012 in a trade journal of the sciences of finance and economy. The needed energy’s sources are primary resources like coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear as well as energy from the sun in the form of radiation, wind and hydropower. The amount of coal, oil and natural gas of the used primary energy sources for creating the GDP is well known, and thus the emitted amount of CO2 by this GDP production is known as well. Therefor there is a fixed quotient “kilogram CO2-emission per dollar”. This quotient is valid absolutely in an enclosed economical area. Thus, higher costs of a product are identical with higher CO2-emissions. As all the “renewable energy” is more expensive than its classical competitors it is striking to see that “renewable energy” emits more CO2 than coal-fired power plants. You can find all details on my website http://www.kosten-energie-aequivalenzgesetz.com. As my work apparently is unknown to you I apply to you to mention my work in future publications I wish you much success to, as being a base for your conclusions for bewaring my copyrights concerning this prove of mine.
But, if an idea is truly independently developed by outside research separate from a published paper yielding similar conclusions or equations, is the copyright requirement applicable? Independent confirmation, separately derived should be encouraged, should it not?
Mr. Comendador has found a correlation between GDP and CO2-Emissions and drew a conclusion out of his observation. His conclusion, however, is tenuous as long as there is no proof that the correlation GDP/CO2 has a fixed value resulting from using exclusively the primary energy sources for producing the GDP, because there are numerous CO2-sources worldwide. In my work (2012) I exactly offered this proof, and without it, the conclusion of Mr. Comendador is worthless. Further future quotations of Mr. Condadors work therefor have no scientific meaning without reference to my work.