Insanity and hypocrisy Down Under

Al Gore’s bombast and hypocrisy, an energy debacle “no one saw coming,” lessons for USA

Paul Driessen

The Wall Street Journal called it the energy shortage “no one saw coming.” Actually, a lot of people did see it coming. But intent on pursuing their “dangerous manmade climate change” and “renewable energy will save the planet” agendas, the political classes ignored them. So the stage was set.

As an Australia-wide heat wave sent temperatures soaring above 105 degrees F (40.6 C) in early 2017, air conditioning demand skyrocketed. But Adelaide, South Australia is heavily dependent on wind turbines for electricity generation – and there was no wind. Regulators told the local natural gas-fired power plant to ramp up its output, but it couldn’t get enough gas to do so. To avoid a massive, widespread blackout, regulators shut off power to 90,000 homes, leaving angry families sweltering in the dark.

According to the Journal, Aussie politicians and the wind industry, the primary problem was businesses that exported 62% of Australia’s natural gas production in 2016, leaving insufficient supplies to run gas backup power plants that are supposed to step in when wind and solar power fail. Policy makers “didn’t ensure enough gas would remain at home” and couldn’t foresee temperatures soaring with no wind.

Gas export licenses were issued without regard to the consequences for the domestic market,” said one pol. We should have had “a national interest test” in place to ensure domestic gas needs, said another.

During this and even bigger Aussie blackouts, valuable fish, meat and produce rotted when freezers and refrigerators shut down. Business operations were interrupted or shut down. Rising electricity prices and unreliable power impacted smelters, factories and other businesses, causing many to lay off workers.

The blackouts and energy debacle “offer lessons for America, as it prepares to vastly increase natural gas shipments abroad,” the Journal advises. It certainly does, though not the lessons suggested by the article or people quoted in it, amid the “excessive exports” narrative. Here are some of the correct lessons.

First and foremost, have debates and red team-blue team exercises. Listen to experts who aren’t locked into climate chaos and renewable energy themes. Foster public discussions, instead of silencing them. Understand the entire situation and all the likely consequences of each alternative, before legislating.

Recognize and study reality. Dead calms occur frequently when temperatures are at their highest, or their lowest – when families, businesses, hospitals and schools need electricity the most. Clouds can blanket regions for days or weeks on end. Reliance on wind and solar is risky, and reliable backup is essential.

The justification for eliminating coal and mandating 50% wind and solar is heavily rooted in fears of catastrophic manmade climate change. But the alleged crisis has no basis in observed evidence. The 18-year pause continues apace, with the El Niño temperature spike of 2015-16 gone … and average global temperatures back down to where they were in March 2015. Hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts are in line with or below multi-century historic trends and fluctuations and are hardly unprecedented. Greenland just recorded its most frigid July temperature reading in history: -33 C (-27 F).

If alarmists have evidence to the contrary, they must present it for review – including original temperature data, not the revised, homogenized data that American, Australian and other scientists have been presenting to support cataclysm claims and justify demands that we eliminate fossil fuels and switch to renewable energy, regardless of the unprecedented energy and economic risks that would pose.

Second, if Australia (or the USA) is to “keep what’s theirs,” instead of exporting it, keeping it in the ground is the wrong way to do it. Exports may be playing a role. But Victoria and New South Wales have banned fracking, more are likely to follow, coal burning and nuclear are also banned – and you cannot export, use or generate electricity with energy that you are prohibited from taking out of the ground. You cannot benefit from resources you hoard and lock up.

Ban fracking, and you ensure more natural gas shortages, soaring electricity prices, ever-greater reliance on expensive, unreliable wind and solar power, more blackouts, more layoffs, more economic downturns and dislocations, more shipping of good jobs overseas. Your may get many new low-pay jobs hauling, installing, maintaining and removing wind turbines and solar panels made in China. But you won’t have smelters, foundries, turbine and panel factories, or the high-pay jobs that go with them.

Adding to the problem, Institute of Public Affairs research director Brett Hogan notes, many coal and gas operators are investing less in maintenance because there is little point in spending on plants that activists and politicians are trying to shut down. “That explains why their reliability is starting to wobble at times, which the renewables crowd falsely claims is proof that fossil fuels are also unstable.”

Meanwhile renewable energy mandates “are pushing out the cheapest electricity provider in Australia (coal), gas prices are being set at the international level, and activists are demanding fracking bans that limit gas supplies and make gas still more expensive,” he adds. The results should be easy to foresee.

Third, applying a “national interest test” should not pertain only to export licenses. It must also apply to fracking and nuclear bans, coal and gas plant closures, and effects of skyrocketing electricity prices on smelters, factories, hospitals, schools, local governments and families. Government-imposed Australian austerity and sacrifices will have trivial, un-measurable, irrelevant impacts on atmospheric CO2 levels in the face of growing coal use and emissions from China, India, Indonesia, virtually all other Asia-Pacific nations, and the rest of the world. How does Australia’s overall national interest stack up against that?

Once again, open, robust debate, honest, transparent information – and stiff penalties for prevarication, fabrication and falsification – are absolutely essential.

Under sustainability and climate precepts, we are supposed to safeguard the assumed needs of future generations, even if it means ignoring or compromising the undeniable needs of current generations. We are supposed to protect people from theoretical, exaggerated risks of dangerous manmade climate change, regardless of how slashing fossil fuel use impacts millions of businesses and families. That is untenable.

In the midst of all this, the Journal reports, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has offered to build a giant battery system in South Australia – as though batteries can back up wind power for hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses … especially under true sustainability, economic and national interest tests. Mr. Musk, however, needs new customers to offset plunging sales in Hong Kong, Denmark and elsewhere.

Meanwhile, the ECOCITY World Summit is being held in Melbourne. City planners, architects, elected officials, professors, teachers and eager recipients of more taxpayer-funded renewable energy grants are soaking up fake facts and clever strategies for imposing sustainable development goals on the governed classes. As my CFACT colleagues observing the summit put it, they want to use financial instruments and courts to transform communities into “sustainable and resilient cities,” with them in charge.

Al Gore is jetting around the land Down Under, promoting his new climate chaos film and claiming manmade pollution is equivalent to 400,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs going off daily! Making Australian heat waves five times more likely because of manmade global warming! Teachers and journalists get free passes to Gore’s events, to get their propaganda talking points, but no one is allowed to record any part of his talks, to avoid embarrassing the false prophet. When Climate Depot’s Marc Morano offered him a free DVD of the Climate Hustle documentary film, a scowling Al Gore headed to his SUV and private jet.

Mr. Gore and other alarmists are generally panic-stricken about debating climate realists, especially in debates proposed by USEPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. Participating in them would expose their claims to unaccustomed scrutiny, but refusing to do so would leave the impression that they have something to hide: such as their raw data, deceptive methodologies and absence of evidence to support their models.

They should be worried. If the crisis is exaggerated, fabricated or exists only in computer models, we will refuse to keep spending countless trillions on junk research and job-killing renewable energy schemes.

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power – Black death.

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Windsong
July 16, 2017 10:55 am

Could a reader in S.A. comment on how the blackout put a kink in the charging time for electric vehicles? Paul Homewood had a post up on 15 July titled “National Grid’s Thoughts on EVs.” In short, hard to expect a stressed grid to handle increasing numbers of EVs with ever-increasing battery size.
Meanwhile, my Sunday morning newspaper features an opinion piece by Ann McFeatters, “Drive toward electric-car future picking up speed.” Until you run out of electricity.

Lewis p Buckingham
Reply to  Windsong
July 16, 2017 2:20 pm

Not in SA but went through the Wran years in NSW when the power supply was not reliable due to failure to maintain base load power.
Integral energy simply reduced the voltage rather than shedding the load.
We called them brown outs.
Modern computers and microprocessors using items such as toasters and electric cars could never handle this.
All solar panels are pointed to the North to maximise total power input.
The problem with this is that the most power is used for airconditioning in the afternoon when the sun is in the north west to west.
As a result solar power is of little use to the electric car driven back home, or airconditioning, unless it is first stored.
The installation of smart meters means that the consumer will be slugged at peak times, when power is not
available from renewables, by time of day based charging.

South River Independent
Reply to  Windsong
July 16, 2017 8:35 pm

Notice that McFeatters claims that CO2 destroys the ozone layer.

CheshireRed
July 16, 2017 11:07 am

South Australia could be doing the world a favour by advancing their disastrous green policies. Frankly we need to see the biggest energy collapse possible with dire consequences. Hard on decent folk, but necessary to give a real-world example of how a renewables-only system will not work and maybe, just maybe it’d knock some sense into policymakers. Would be a tough lesson, though.

Reply to  CheshireRed
July 16, 2017 1:42 pm

+10, agreed.

SMC
July 16, 2017 11:14 am

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. -Groucho Marx

July 16, 2017 11:31 am

No need to deny global warming to advocate for sensible use of natural gas to back up renewable energy assets. As someone who agrees with the scientists that our planet is at very high risk of severe disruption from overheating, and who knows we have to act promptly to avoid calamity, I think clean natural gas used efficiently is possibly the best way to carry us through to full sustainability. Distributed generation, combined heat and power, is probably the best use.

Jeff Mitchell
Reply to  Jack Davis
July 16, 2017 2:36 pm

Most people that visit this site believe the world is warming. The argument is what is causing it. I and many others argue that mankind is not the problem, and or that any human method could stop the warming. It is really hard to fight nature.
If you want to curb CO2 emissions then nuclear is the way to go. Natural gas only releases less CO2 than coal, but it still releases it. Methane, the primary component in natural gas, is CH4, and releases CO2 and water when burned. Since I don’t believe that CO2 is the problem, I’d like to see concentrations as high as 1000 ppm as opposed to the current 400 ppm. It makes the world greener and allows more food to be grown.

jclarke341
Reply to  Jack Davis
July 16, 2017 4:12 pm

Jack Davis…Just curious…why do you believe “…that our planet is at very high risk of severe disruption from overheating, and…we have to act promptly to avoid calamity…”? Is it just because you have been incorrectly lead to believe that the vast majority of scientists think this? Is it faith in the computer models?
As a skeptic in CAGW for over 25 years, I have been looking for some evidence that my stance is incorrect. I haven’t found any yet, but so many others are convinced that we are heading into a crisis. Is there something other than a contrived consensus in a crisis and climate models that haven’t shown any skill ever?

MarkW
Reply to  Jack Davis
July 17, 2017 7:37 am

Since we don’t need those renewable energy assets in the first place. All the extra infrastructure that vainly attempts to make them relevant is even less necessary.
BTW, there are no scientists who believe that our planet is at “very high risk of severe disruption”.
The vast majority of scientists put the sensitivity at between 0.3 and 2.0C. No chance whatsoever of severe disruption from that.
Heck, 2.0C will barely get us back to where we were doing the Minoan warm period and is still several degrees shy of the Holocene Optimum.

jaffa68
July 16, 2017 11:31 am

Do they realise that the buyer of the gas burns it, so there’s no planet saving in the equation.

CMS
Reply to  jaffa68
July 16, 2017 1:55 pm

Except US Green House Gas production peaked in 2007 and has been in rapid decline since then according to the EPA. This, again according to the EPA, is primarily do to the switching to natural gas. One would think this would be widely celebrated along with an even more substantive decline by Europe. It demonstrates that not only is the problem tractable, but could be resolved without catastrophic economic dislocation. One has to wonder why this reasonable simple path to saving the planet has gone almost unnoted by the main stream almost as if they didn’t really want there to be a reasonable solution. https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2017-04/documents/us-ghg-inventory-2016-chapter-executive-summary.pdf

John W. Garrett
July 16, 2017 11:42 am

When I read that article in the WSJ, I started shaking my head. Readers of WUWT and Jo Nova have known exactly what was going on in South Australia.
There was no surprise (other than that the WSJ failed to get the story right).

Martin Mason
July 16, 2017 11:50 am

Jack, what makes you think that?

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  Martin Mason
July 16, 2017 2:43 pm

Jack, what makes you BELIEVE that ?
;.))

Monna M
July 16, 2017 11:57 am

“prevarication, fabrication and falsification” – why not just call it what it is: LYING.

Tom Judd
July 16, 2017 12:07 pm

I dunno, but for some reason, the first thing that came to mind when I read the above post was when I traveled to Nevada to get laid for the first time.
Now, I know what you’re thinking (and trust me, I’m thinking it too): what the heck do blackouts in Australia have to do with this Tom guy going to a prostitute in Nevada to get laid for the first time?
To be honest, I don’t know. Needless to say, I was a little bit up in years. To compensate for the significantly over ripe condition of my fruit I decided I’d make a grand entrance (um, the pun there is sort of intended) by a historic pilgrimage to a legal brothel in Nevada.
When I arrived at my destination the thoughtful Madame, with a volume that would’ve put a rock concert to shame, screamed out to the lady and I (and everybody else at the brothel, and in town, and in entire state of Nevada, the entire USA, possibly the entire galaxy); be gentle with him – he’s a VIRGIN.
So, now that you have detail on the first thought that came to my mind concerning this post, allow me to present to you the second thought that came to my mind: I’ve been seeing a woman therapist.
Now, allow me to present to you the third thought that just came to my mind: I probably could’ve accomplished the first and second things thought about by simply acquiring a wife.
And, now this brings me to item number four: I’m guessing I never acquired a wife because either I cannot be around women for more than short periods of time; or, women cannot be around me for more than short periods of time.
And this finally, finally, brings me to renewable energy. Unlike a long term, reliable energy source renewable energy is a little like women and me; it’s only viable for short periods of time, then you’re back on your own.
But look at it this way: when the power’s out and you’re sitting around a candle it’s a great mood setting for bringing up stories about getting laid for the first time.

brians356
Reply to  Tom Judd
July 18, 2017 3:21 pm

Don’t give up your day job, Tom.

Bill Illis
July 16, 2017 12:26 pm

Slightly off-topic, but with the large drop in temperatures in June 2017 (the super El-Nino impact is finally over – a few months late),
We can now check to see if the climate models are working against the observations again. ALL of the major climate model forecasts against June 2017 UAH and the NCDC (assuming it falls as GisTemp has done). Conclusion, back to NOT WORKING again after a temporary natural cycle up-tick).comment image

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Bill Illis
July 16, 2017 2:20 pm

“ALL of the major climate model forecasts against June 2017 UAH “
The usual con. They were not forecasting tropospheric temperatures. The forecast of NOAA is looking fairly good.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 16, 2017 3:42 pm

The climate modles also forecast troposphere temperatures and they were supposed to be 1.27 times HIGHER than the surface trend. There is only so many lines that one can put on a chart. But you already know this fact so your comment is disingenuous to say the least.
And the surface trend from the NCDC (on the chart if you did not look closely enough) is NOT “fairly good”, is it off by a mile, especially all the earlier 3.0C per doubling forecasts.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 16, 2017 4:30 pm

“The climate modles also forecast troposphere temperatures and they were supposed to be 1.27 times HIGHER than the surface trend.”
Often said, rarely substantiated. But there’s no excuse for plotting trop temps as a test of surface predictions. If you think models have failed on troposphere, show the predictions for that (and try comparing with, eg, RSS V4 and UAH V5.6).
And I don’t see why you have highlighted a supposed NOAA June reading that isn’t even out yet. Comparing unsmoothed monthly with annually smoothed prediction is pretty shoddy. And I have no idea how you put UAH V6 on a 1961-90 base when their data only started in 1979. And yes, I’m pretty sure you have plotted Hansen’s figures without transforming his 1951-80 base.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 16, 2017 5:53 pm

Nick, if I produce a chart that says all data has been translated to the the 1961-1990 base period, you can be most assured that all data certainly has been.
And yes the troposphere (as in the the tropospheric hotspot) is certainly projected to have more warming than the surface as if you didn’t know that already. That is how the models work.
Your precious modelsto are back to being way, way too high now that we can see the El Niño temporary blip is over.

July 16, 2017 12:59 pm

South Australia, and probably Victoria, are going to replace their fleet of ambulances with solar powered vehicles.
However to ensure that they are able to ensure emergency service is still available at night or when the sun isn’t shining they are going to also purchase one equivalent conventional ambulance as backup for each solar powered ambulance.
This doesn’t make any sense at all.
Firstly in order to have any impact on emissions, any savings made by using the solar powered vehicle has to first offset the CO2 emissions created by the manufacture of not one, but 2 vehicles.
Secondly the operating cost of the service is going to double as they have to allow for the investment in and depreciation of 2 vehicles instead of one as well as increasing the number of ambulance staff accordingly so that each vehicle is ready for dispatch 24/7.

Reply to  kalsel3294
July 16, 2017 1:25 pm

These people are beyond hope. They profiled Arnold S recently about his commitment to global warming. He has 4 Hummers, but converted 3 to use hydrogen, so they don’t produce carbon pollution. So help me. They said that.

Curious George
Reply to  joel
July 16, 2017 2:07 pm

Good for him. He planted some hydrogen-producing trees.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  kalsel3294
July 17, 2017 4:39 am

my jaw dropped
ive seen no mention of this
is it really true?
we cant be that stupid?
oh
yes we can!
ditherall again i guess
and the ftard in vics as dim;-(
NT is looking better by the day.
oh and re why we dont like frakking?
limited potable artesian water for one
secondly we have OFFshore gas thats accessible and in place
why the hell do we risk our land/water when we can drop new bores offshore!
on the ambulances
i bet the supersized one for he mega obese sure cant run on solar.
and i wonder how many rural long distance trips need fail and people die befor they work it out?
then the fire/exploding battery and difficulty putting em out without toxic specialty retardants gets mentioned?

July 16, 2017 1:35 pm

Updated view numbers.
Over 3,100!! (up 1,300 since 6/9) views on my WriterBeat papers which were also sent to the ME departments of several prestigious universities (As a BSME & PE felt some affinity.) and a long list of pro/con CAGW personalities and organizations.
NOBODY has responded explaining why my methods, calculations and conclusions in these papers are incorrect. BTW that is called SCIENCE!!
SOMEBODY needs to step up and ‘splain my errors ‘cause if I’m correct (Q=UAdT runs the atmospheric heat engine) – that’s a BIGLY problem for RGHE.
Step right up! Bring science.
http://writerbeat.com/articles/14306-Greenhouse—We-don-t-need-no-stinkin-greenhouse-Warning-science-ahead-
http://writerbeat.com/articles/15582-To-be-33C-or-not-to-be-33C
http://writerbeat.com/articles/16255-Atmospheric-Layers-and-Thermodynamic-Ping-Pong
The papers have comments sections.
Interesting you tube and canon ball, feathers and vacuum. Things go wonkers w/o molecules.
Is space cold or hot? There are no molecules in space so our common definitions of hot/cold/heat/energy don’t apply.
The temperatures of objects in space, e.g. the earth, moon, space station, mars, Venus, etc. are determined by the radiation flowing past them. In the case of the earth, the solar irradiance of 1,368 W/m^2 has a Stefan Boltzmann black body equivalent temperature of 394 K. That’s hot. Sort of.
But an object’s albedo reflects away some of that energy and reduces that temperature.
The earth’s albedo reflects away 30% of the sun’s 1,368 W/m^2 energy leaving 70% or 958 W/m^2 to “warm” the earth and at an S-B BB equivalent temperature of 361 K, 33 C colder than the earth with no atmosphere or albedo.
The earth’s albedo/atmosphere doesn’t keep the earth warm, it keeps the earth cool.

Yirgach
Reply to  nickreality65
July 16, 2017 6:23 pm

Step Right Up!!!

Yirgach
Reply to  Yirgach
July 16, 2017 6:32 pm

The largest print giveth and the smallest print taketh away.

Reply to  nickreality65
July 17, 2017 6:36 am

NOBODY has responded explaining why my methods, calculations and conclusions in these papers are incorrect.

At a minimum they are incomplete. The atm isn’t a static transmission line, more an open air waveguide that has a bunch of considerations between the source and receiver.
But the work I’ve done would go nicely with the work you did. you should follow my name, and read the nonlinear cooling, and the referenced paper. You should be able to email me directly from there if you’d like.

Doug Taylor
July 16, 2017 1:48 pm

The WSJ reporters (and editors) are qualified when discussing financial, business, and economic issues. However they are not the brightest stars on the block, when they have to deal with technical or engineering issues. I subscribe to the journal, and was able to read some of the 250 or so web comments by the readers of the journal about this issue. The readers(comments) were better informed, than the author.

MarkW
Reply to  Doug Taylor
July 17, 2017 7:46 am

“are qualified when discussing financial, business, and economic issues”
Do you have any evidence to support this belief?

Chris
Reply to  MarkW
July 17, 2017 8:58 am

Oh, just the fact that it has one of the largest circulations of any business-focused newspaper in the world. Do you have any evidence that the writers are not qualified on financial, business and economic issues?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
July 18, 2017 5:11 am

“Chris July 17, 2017 at 8:58 am
Do you have any evidence that the writers are not qualified on financial, business and economic issues?”
Do you have any evidence they are?

July 16, 2017 2:52 pm

Either Australiam voters are stupid, inumerate or hard of science, or they vote for stupid politicians based on technically illiterate beliefs in energy science denial in what can’t deliver in established energy fact. This is stupid in aneduacted technological society. None of this is good, but it IS self inflicted. They vote in crooks they should know are deceiving them with a blatant but legalised climate change protection racket. Oh YEAH! Only Californians are as technically and economically delusional and easy to con, IMO.

michael hart
Reply to  brianrlcatt
July 16, 2017 3:10 pm

The Australians seem to have got it worse than many other nations, in that they voted for politicians who said they wouldn’t do certain things, but then went ahead and did them anyway. This does happen in other countries too, but the climate lies told to Australians seem particularly egregious.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  brianrlcatt
July 16, 2017 7:44 pm

South Australia is currently a gerrymander government. The Labor/Greens held power the last two state elections despite receiving less primary votes. The Electoral Commission allows this by fudging in the independent electorates as Conservative despite the Independents themselves being Labor stooges. In this case a three horse race between the Indie, Labor and Conservative the people who voted Indie were more likely to vote Conservative instead of Labor therefore the % counts as Conservative primary votes meaning they don’t need to make the election results match reality. I think it was that bad that a couple of elections ago they lost substantial % but gains seats?
JoNova recently reported that instead of spending 8m to get a working coal fired power plant they are going to spend 100-114m on temporary diesel generators until they complete the expensive gas generators to provide support to their ailing wind industry.
After the 8m offer they have hence blown that coal plant up, coal dust everywhere….. lovely.

Svend Ferdinandsen
July 16, 2017 3:23 pm

Maybe they could se the problem if the ” ECOCITY World Summit” would loose the power.
Even if all the paticipants waved their hands, i think not they could make a turbine rotate.

Doug Taylor
July 16, 2017 3:44 pm

Ref Luis Anastasia July 16, 2017 at 10:42 am
“Robert Turner: “Ivanpah MIGHT actually be producing more energy than it’s consuming.”
….
Produced: 1,775,246 Mwh
Gas consumed: 3,310,819 MMbut
Note: 1 Mwh = 3.41 million btu, so yes, it’s a net producer of energy.…”
FYI: Mwh and MMbut are units of energy, however Mwh is work energy(useful), and MMbut is heat energy(not so useful). The conversion of the between the two is called thermodynamic efficiency. Please talk to one of your engineering friends about the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, before writing this nonsense.
As an analogy, it is like equating the US $(1) to the Canadian $(1.2); or the US$(1) to the confederate states of America$(infinity) .

July 16, 2017 3:44 pm

This energy fiasco and brainless move to wind power by our politicians makes me ashamed to be an Aussie.

BallBounces
July 16, 2017 4:13 pm

“Recognize and study reality.” Hahahaha. That’s crazy talk.

Gloateus
July 16, 2017 5:17 pm

Sanity from Down Under’s Wizard of Oz:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/BC1l4geSTP8

EW3
July 16, 2017 5:24 pm

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
― H.L. Mencken
sums up the purpose of “climate change” succinctly.

lyn roberts
July 16, 2017 5:29 pm

Today south australia has predicted high winds, in excess of 90KM HR, are they going to have to turn off the wind powered generators, well lets wait and see.
Also it is going to be extremely cold as the Low Depression that is causing the high winds is also dragging in cold air from the southern ocean and it is winter here.
Then where is your power coming from, NSW, VIC, And Queensland backing up the other two states for their deficiency.
We have been told that our power costs are to rise in Queensland as at July 1st, yet to get the bill, I fear for all of us.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/thunderstorms-strong-wind-to-hit-south-australias-southeast/news-story/bd5e4f902e2724395f1a3180cb2fa132

lyn roberts
Reply to  Another Ian
July 16, 2017 8:39 pm

Ian – its a nonsense, Qld is showing no other electricty generation on the chart, yet my family and friends between us are feeding in 100kw’s of power from our solar panels.
If i look at my front window, I can see about 8 house roofs close by to me that all have 20 solar panels on their roofs, every third house in our suburb has solar panels, I’m serious it’s a high owner occupied area with also a higher older population, and we are all doing our best to find cheaper electricity.
They would know, how much because we are all getting paid for our power at a insulting rate, but it all helps I suppose, how hard would it be to analyse the thousands of Cr’s in electricity bills, and then divide by 90 days to find an average, or is that tooo hard for them to figure out.

Griff
Reply to  Another Ian
July 17, 2017 4:54 am

Lyn
some data sites show solar not as generation, but as a reduction in demand?
I don’t know if that’s the case here.
I note Queensland has 30% of homes with solar panels (just over 23% of all Australian homes have solar).
This can only increase, as will domestic battery use.

LdB
Reply to  Another Ian
July 17, 2017 10:36 am

Griff is right all you are doing is a reduction because that is what it is your power does from a distribution standpoint and it can’t make it past the first interconnector. The monitor system is about the distribution it isn’t there to monitor numbers for the Greens, Griff, You or any other group on what your house is producing which is truely just a reduction. Yes your solar panels are creating power but it’s all being consumed locally is what it is telling you.

catweazle666
Reply to  Another Ian
July 18, 2017 5:14 pm

“This can only increase, as will domestic battery use.”
Anyone who believes that a system that uses batteries can be considered ecologically beneficial is either extremely ill-informed, a bare-faced liar or a paid propagandist for the ‘unreliables’ industry.
In your case, I imagine, all three and then some.
Tell us, have you apologised to Dr. Crockford about lying about her professional qualifications to earn a few bob from whatever vile organisation pays you to vomit up your mendacious rubbish, grifter?

Gary Pearse
July 16, 2017 6:03 pm

The biggest weather story in Canada was not reported by MSM, amazing huh?
https://www.sott.net/article/356484-Snow-falls-in-the-middle-of-July-in-Schefferville-Quebec
Easy to believe the cold in Greenland from a year almost without summer in Ontario. We are as much as 5-7C cooler than normal. A couple of warm days in May and in June but mostly unusually cool. There is warm weather in Western Canada right now but most of the summer on a usually hot prairies has been quite cool. My wife was in Russia in June and had to buy a coat and Europe has been cold so this is not local weather

pbweather
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 17, 2017 1:26 am

Europe has not been cool. Only Scandinavia and Russia has been cool. The rest of continental Europe particularly the Alps southwards has been significantly warmer than normal from June 1st to mid July so far.

TA
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 17, 2017 1:04 pm

It’s been a mild summer so far in the central U.S.
Chile was a bit chilly the other day. I read where they had an unusual snowfall down there.

Snarling Dolphin
July 16, 2017 7:48 pm

“Policy makers… couldn’t foresee temperatures soaring without wind.” People like this have no business making policy. I’m not sure if they’re capable of any useful function but certainly should be kept at a harmless distance from any and all energy related decision making.

John Michelmore
July 16, 2017 8:10 pm

The question is though; are the voters capable of seeing thru all the BS in relation to the Australian fiasco; I suspect not, and even if they did, who are they going to vote for????

ozspeaksup
Reply to  John Michelmore
July 17, 2017 4:44 am

some of us see throught it
but we are forced to vote here
so we cant even avoid the polls and make them realise we dont want the options offered at all.
what if they held an election and NO ONE voted?
(snitching an old bumpersticker;-)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  ozspeaksup
July 17, 2017 11:22 pm

You are not forced TO vote, only forced, under threat of a $200 fine, to REGISTER to vote. You don’t need to mark your ballot paper at all. But then the result isn’t any better and none of the alternate parties in Australia are any better. They are ALL left leaning and fully behind the green scare.

jim heath
July 16, 2017 9:02 pm

The only thing an idiot takes notice of is hunger, it will come.