“President” Schwarzenegger Discusses Climate with President Macron of France

President Emmanuel Macron

President Emmanuel Macron. By Kremlin.ru, CC BY 4.0, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is demonstrating his total disregard for the will of the American People, joining with President Macron of France to do everything in their power to overturn US voters’ decision to embrace President Trump’s repudiation of the Paris Agreement.

Schwarzenegger And Macron Troll Trump Over Climate Change

Former California governor meets in France with “great leader” to talk about environmental issues.

25/06/2017 5:09 PM AEST | Updated 7 hours ago

Trends Reporter, HuffPost

Twitter Video of Arnie and Macron

New best bros Arnold Schwarzenegger and French President Emmanuel Macron met in Paris to talk about the Paris climate agreement and global warming. They also teamed up for a selfie video not-so-surreptitiously aimed at you-know-who: that other president.

The video, posted to Schwarzenegger’s Twitter account on Friday, is labeled: “With President Macron, a great leader.” The former California governor says on it: “I’m here with President Macron. We’re talking about environmental issues and a green future.”

Macron adds: “And now we will deliver together to make the planet great again.”

Trump had previously scorched Schwarzenegger for poor ratings when he took over “Celebrity Apprentice” from the president (though Trump always exaggerated his own ratings).

Schwarzenegger shot back that maybe Trump should head the reality program again, and let Schwarzenegger move into the White House.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/06/25/schwarzenegger-and-macron-troll-trump-over-climate-change_a_22980114/

I can’t help thinking Macron is going to be a one hit wonder as French President, a bit like Schwarzenegger’s run with The Apprentice.

France has very real problems – out of control illegal immigration related violence, a major domestic terror threat, and a very shaky economy.

President Macron wasting his time grandstanding, taking cheap shots at President Trump, is not doing anything to fix those problems.

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145 thoughts on ““President” Schwarzenegger Discusses Climate with President Macron of France

    • >>
      Griff
      June 26, 2017 at 1:09 am
      <<

      It’s a clear violation of the Constitution:
      Article I Section 10 – Powers prohibited of States

      “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.”

      And if States don’t have those powers, they can’t grant them as charters to cities either.

      Of course, Congress may have given the store away as the third paragraph says:

      “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”

      Jim

      • Constitutional law is tricky:

        “. . . In Holmes v. Jennison (1840), Justice Roger B. Taney, writing for himself and three other Justices, commented that the clause ‘positively and unconditionally’ forbade states from entering into treaties, and that ‘even the consent of Congress could not authorize’ them to do so. He also distinguished formal ‘treaties,’ which were expressly forbidden to states, from ‘agreements’ and ‘compacts’ that Congress could authorize.”

        The term “agreement” is rather slippery. In reference to a treaty, it’s denied to States; however, non-treaty agreements may be authorized. Now, did Congress grant agreements as a “carte blanche,” or do States have to get the approval of Congress in each case? In any case, Congress can revoke its approval.

        Jim

      • If ‘no private person may negotiate with foreign powers’ is a reason why Trump’s team’s per-innauguration talks with Russians et al got Trump in hot water, then why is it OK for Arnie to do it? Double standard anyone?

      • Just as some Californians, I am completely in favor of California (or part of it, at least) seceding from the rest of the US. Once accomplished, San-San (San Diego – San Francisco) should be completely cut off from the mainland, including all of the electrical power (coal-fired) that they get from other states (Intermountain Power Project was almost 100% at the behest of the L.A. Basin, who didn’t want “dirty” coal generating electricity in their back yard … ). Cut off all Air Traffic Control, cut off all water, and especially cut off all the Federal tax subsidies going to San-San.

        Wonder how long they’d last. Maybe a week?

        Vlad

      • “Double standard anyone?”

        If progressives didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any. It’s the “have your cake and eat it too” thing.

      • “Unless actually invaded?” Now I understand the “sanctuary” approach. At their convenience they can call it an invasion and can then do whatever! And I just thought they were far left and had an IQ lower than the average temperature in Nome, Alaska!

    • The coup is unraveling and the left-wing snakes will be slithering away presently. The unconstituional efforts of climate extremists just remind us that at the end of the day climate kooks are enemies of law, civil society and humanity.

    • I hope California can cough up 2 billion dollars per year to foreign governments and the UN Green Fund in order to be in compliance with their share of the Paris Accord.

  1. Reality is fast catching up with Europe and the European Union. An insignificant increase of an Atmospheric trace gas is going to be the least of their concerns.

    Their political ineptitude, economic corruption and ideological flaws have left an absolute mess.

    • J.H.
      Indeed.
      And, as mentioned here before, to the nearest one-tenth of one percent, there is Zero CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere.

      And – please – I will not (much) allow myself to get started on Europe . . . .. . .
      It has fouled up the UK big time – and we’re leaving.
      Do ask the Greeks – or any of the Club Med nations – how being yoked to the almighty Deutschmark (aka Euro, aka Teuro) has worked for them.
      Destroy Wealth (Outside Germany)!
      For sure.
      And unemployment rates?
      And Youth unemployment rates??

      Ahh.

      Enough.

      Auto – halting hypertension by hating H’Euro hate-fests. [Sorry!!!]

  2. Looks like the ‘girls’ are planning a party – Angie has got the Wurst
    ttps://kleinefeldmausorgnz.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/arnie-merkel-macron-girlies.jpg?w=640

  3. Arnie said that we all drink the same water, and breathe the same air. No difference for Democrats or Republicans. Yeah, but what about we all burn the same coal, natural gas, kill the same birds with wind turbines; or the minerals used to make solar panels; or the benefits we get from nuclear powerplants?

    • In my opinion the French people have fallen for the ultimate con trick. The powers that be knew that the people were not going to elect anyone from the old parties so in a year the “created” this new party which for some crazy reason is exactly the same now it is elected as the old parties. quelle surprise

    • DDP
      Almost a monitor down!!
      Please, please, Please, Puhleeze, pretty please!, add /Sarc to those comments that reasonably require that addendum.
      Thanks for the guffaw!!

      Auto

  4. When 2 incompetent notorious in the fields of science and energy speak of what they do not know, one can be sure that they tell only nonsense … Especially they do not know that it There is no evidence that CO2 has a measurable effect on temperature, that there has been no global warming since the early 2000s, and that numerical models persist in miserably crashing.

    Usque tandem, delirium carbonum, abutere patientia nostra ?

    • ‘Borrowed’ from Merriam-Webster:
      Definition of simplism
      : the act or an instance of oversimplifying; especially : the reduction of a problem to a false simplicity by ignoring complicating factors.

      Does profound ignorance leave an option to not ignore complicating factors?

      Does ‘simplism’ at least somewhat describe the place where we have arrived in the global climate bloviathon?

  5. Macron is France’s Obama. Great at making speeches about how he is going to save the world but he was a failure in the Socialist government of Hollande and ran off with his tail between his legs. He has yet to face up to the French Unions and the economic stagnation of France’s economy. He has already offended the East Europeans by declaring that France and Germany will run the EU. I’m surprised he has not been awarded the Nobel prize for making speeches that Obama got as yet. Soon maybe. Before the Unions take his ball off him.

    • Obama got the Nobel Prize just because he wasn’t Bush. The Nobel Peace prize has become a joke. Even Obama is puzzled about why he won the Peace Prize. link

      • With his humanitarian bombing of Libya I thought maybe they would award him a War prize, and he could be the first with a matching set ; )

      • i think he got the nobel prize for the same reason gore did- to slaughter of the american economy and serve up the spoils as a feast for the parisites

      • Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama was the first US president to bomb other countries every day of his 8-year time in office.

      • I think they ran out of people to give the prize too, so now they just draw names out of a hat and try to make up reasons why that person should get the prize.

      • @JohnKnight
        Considering the foreign relations situation as a result of 2 Obutthead terms, it’s clear he’s missing at least one other matching set as well.

      • Well if they made Tony Blair a peace envoy to the Middle East then Obama deserved the prize.

      • Trudeau says one thing and does another. He pretends to be real green but he’s working on getting Alberta oil to tidewater. The newly elected government of British Columbia will do its best to keep that from happening. We’ll see what kind of guy Trudeau really is by how he handles that problem.

    • Ivor,
      The EU has its own prizes.
      Mostly named after folk who wanted to draw the continent together, I believe.
      A Prize named after some French Apparatchik from the 40s or 50s.
      The Napoleon Prize for something. [Not, I think, for losing to General Winter, though. I think.]
      Another chap who lost to the same General, more recently, correctly, has no prize.

      Is there a Juncker prize for the most imaginative tax evasion scandal?
      The Luxembourg Dark Award [maybe]?
      Not yet.
      Probably.

      So why wait for the Nobble?
      [PS do we know if Mikey Mann was awarded a hand-writing prize at elementary [UK – = Primary] School?
      I think we need to know.]
      Or Beard of the Year, at bachelor school?

      Auto
      Amused, amazed, at anonymous Mann awards . . . .

    • Sarkozy = Hungarian; Macon = Canadian. I wish you lot would take out your own garbage. :)

    • In the parliamentary elections in France, only 43 per cent of the electorate voted, and of these 10 per cent gave an invalid ballot. Although only two people were on the paper. Macron, the big macron, can therefore rely on just over a half of a third of the French electorate and are currently facing great problems of bringing together a ministry team. Several of the ministers already resigned before they were appointed. Not to mention the great economic and cultural problems. Macron is no more than a large macaroon. It will not be long before France is re-elected. Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Greek, and Portuguese conditions have long taken possession of France. This is why Trump can sit back and relax, the large macaroon bake is already cold.

      • Hans-Georg June 26, 2017 at 3:35 am
        In the parliamentary elections in France, only 43 per cent of the electorate voted, and of these 10 per cent gave an invalid ballot. Although only two people were on the paper. Macron, the big macron, can therefore rely on just over a half of a third of the French electorate

        You appear be confusing the presidential elections with the parliamentary elections, in the parliamentary elections there were more than ‘two people on the paper’. About 60% of the representatives elected were supporters of Macron.

        In the presidential elections where there were only ‘two people on the paper’ the turnout was ~75% of which Macron won 66%.

        By comparison about 55% of the US electorate voted in the recent presidential election of which Trump gained 46% so by your logic Trump can rely on just over a quarter of the US electorate’.

        You also pointed out that “Several of the ministers already resigned before they were appointed.”,
        that is also true for Trump, I can think of at least four of his cabinet nominees that have withdrawn.

      • That is not right. There were also two ballot elections in the parliamentary elections, so that in the second round, in fact, in many cases only two persons or parties were in the election. In addition, Macron has no 60 per cent majority in parliament. His party, La Republique en Marche, received 306 seats of 577. The other seats of his government were given to Mouvement démocrate (MoDem), the coalition partner. The electoral participation in the second ballot was only 43 per cent and of these 43 per cent, 10 per cent still gave a false or empty ballot. Since I made a mistake, it chose not more than half a third of Macron, but a little more since the 10 percent of the wrong electoral cards went off the 43 percent and not from all the electorate. I do not know, however, a Minister nominated by Trump who resigned before his appointment. There were usually several in the selection, but those of Trump finally nominated have also adopted the selection. Unlike Macron, whose ministers resigned after the selection. The development of the economy in the USA has also gone upwards since Trump, in France it looks more gloomy.

      • Only 3 seats in the parliament are chosen in the first round of the parliament election, 574 in the second…..

      • Hans-Georg June 26, 2017 at 8:15 am
        I do not know, however, a Minister nominated by Trump who resigned before his appointment. There were usually several in the selection, but those of Trump finally nominated have also adopted the selection. Unlike Macron, whose ministers resigned after the selection.

        Well you know of them now.

        James Donovan, of Virginia, to be Deputy Secretary of the Treasury. President Trump notified the senate of his nominee’s withdrawal.

        Todd M. Ricketts, of Illinois, to be Deputy Secretary of Commerce. President Trump notified the senate of his nominee’s withdrawal.

        Vincent Viola, of New York, to be Secretary of the Army. President Trump notified the senate of his nominee’s withdrawal.

        Andrew F. Puzder, of Tennessee, to be Secretary of Labor. President Trump notified the senate of his nominee’s withdrawal.

        Mark Green, of Tennessee, to be Secretary of the Army also withdrew.

      • Hans-Georg June 26, 2017 at 8:35 am
        Only 3 seats in the parliament are chosen in the first round of the parliament election, 574 in the second…..

        Actually 4 seats were chosen in the first round, 2 of which went to Macron’s party (total 308). By agreement with the MoDem his party did not contest the seats in which MoDem were running. Consequently 350 deputies who supported Macron were elected (60.66%).

      • @Phil. Well, that supports my view. Such agreements exist between coalition parties. Nevertheless, Republique en Marche is not MoDem, but there is a coalition. If so, in Germany it is with CDU / SPD currently still higher majorities for the government. Nevertheless, the CDU is not the SPD. Macron did not have a good start. There were more than 400 mandates after the primaries, only 306 he got after the second round, so that he had to coalesce to carry out the essential reforms. I also read in the case of Trump of 3 Viceministers, who correspond to us and in France Secretaries of State (#staatssekretäre) no ministers, who resigned before the hearing. In addition, Puzder has not resigned, but he was forced to come because of the conclusion that he had employed a foreigner without a work permit. A No Go at Trump.

    • President Macaroon is cut from the same mold as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Bieber.

  6. Macron gotta do something quick. In the final round of the presidential election over one quarter stayed home. It’s not a lot in this type of elections. And among those who did show up, >45% voted for something else. Whatever Schwarzenegger has to say, it’s unlikely to increase Macron’s popularity.

    • Whereas in the US presidential election ~45% stayed home and of those who voted 56% ‘voted for something else’ than Trump.

      • What’s your point? You can’t argue that Trump doesn’t have a mandate
        based on turnout then argue that Macron does because it’s ever so slightly
        better. The turnout was 65% in the final poll in France split approx 66/33.

      • JonA June 26, 2017 at 8:12 am
        What’s your point? You can’t argue that Trump doesn’t have a mandate
        based on turnout then argue that Macron does because it’s ever so slightly
        better. The turnout was 65% in the final poll in France split approx 66/33.

        I didn’t, two posters above suggested that Macron was not well supported and gave (faulty) statistics to support that. I pointed out that Trump had even less support based on that metric. The OP said that Trump represented “the will of the American people”, and that this was an attempt to “overturn US voters’ decision to embrace President Trump’s repudiation of the Paris Agreement”.
        Well on that basis Macron represents ‘the will of the French people’.
        Macron: 66% of 75% (sic.) about 43.6% of the electorate.
        Trump: 46% of 60% about 27.6% of the electorate.

  7. If President Trump sought to be really nasty and return fire at these very rich celebrity holier than now Johny come lately green evangelists. A simple exposure of where their hundreds of millions is invested. If (if) they are investing in “government subsidys” to “save the planef”. It would certainly blunt these never ending attacks on your president.
    Trump the business man would know.
    Gores massive wealth, Arnies and Decaprios to name a few of the most vocal “mega rich celebrities” is not just sitting in a bank collecting dust. It’d certainly make for interesting reading.

  8. Anyone else getting a WUWT sea ice page (and it won’t refresh) that is dated 2012? As for AHRNOLD all those steroids have ruined his thought processes

    • And while most of us went to college to exercise our brains, ‘Ahnold’ spent his youth lifting weights. Yet, like many celebrities, he feels that public adulation confers special insights on science and politics. As Lord Acton observed, “Power corrupts,…”

  9. Merkron is comfortably exceeding all expectations in the dangerously stupid department. Fresh from telling the V4 that they are traitors to Europe for not complying with strenuous German efforts to blackmail them into joining the cult of suicide-by-Islam – currently all the rage in Europe – he now want to play spot-the-pseudoscientist games with Arnie. Something tells me Emmangela isn’t going to last very long.

      • For reasons unknown, there is a belief among those running countries that terrorists only use guns, in spite of the evidence of using planes, trucks, explosives, knives, etc. You are absolutely correct—a terrorist with even a knife will have captive victims.

  10. Two guys, neither of whom have ever set foot in a science classroom, of any subject, have appointed themselves fountains of public knowledge about a subject about which they could not answer a single simple question. This would be judged fraudulent behavior in any courtroom.

  11. On top of that Macron wants to phase out Nuclear Power Plants in favour of Wind Power.
    What macaroon he is.

    • How many wind turbines does it take to replace a nuclear plant and guarantee 24/7 power that’s stable and uninterrupted? The infrastructure would have to be massive and “apparently widely distributed” to begin to compete with the energy density of nuclear power.

  12. Former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is demonstrating his total disregard for the will of the American People, joining with President Macron of France to do everything in their power to overturn US voters’ decision to embrace President Trump’s repudiation of the Paris Agreement.

    Was there a national referendum on this that I missed? Since when is the US a totalitarian state where individual citizens are bound not to disagree with the president’s opinion?

    • Not a single person here is denying that Arnold has a right to speak his opinion, but he does not have the right to avoid criticism for his words and actions.

    • sedition
      [si-dish-uh n]
      noun
      1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
      2. any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
      3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

      Having a difference of opinion only goes so far.

    • Well, under Obama you couldn’t disagree without the MSM calling you a racist, or Nancy Pelosi (the GOP gift that keeps on giving) calling you a terrorist. Just saying.

      • I doubt his Kennedy wife expected him to boink the maid. Hell, I didn’t even expect that.

  13. Apparently those steroids eventually have an impact upon one’s mental capacities as well as one’s circulatory system. Or perhaps it’s just something in the air or water in S. California that causes folks to be idiots. Whatever, it seems to be concentrated heavily in Hollywood as well as farther north in Sacramento.

  14. Trump needs to make sure there are no tax deductions for upholders of anti-American policy. By all means let them spend their own money 100%. This won’t last long! They’ll fold fast. Also, while I’m in a forecasting mode. 1)There will be a big wave of headliner retirements from the climate stokers ranks.
    2) Younger entrants will segue into luke and neutral clime positions, largely stole… err… inspired by unorganized sceptics’ scientific works. Signs of change are the rapidly increasing influx of women into this former cubby white male bastion, desperado shrill papers on end of world scenarios (this would make for crisp psychological fodder for studies on transference from scientists’ unwitting plaint about the end of their own personal world, if there were any uncorrupted psychologists left on the planet), the cynical Ehrlichest changing of horses in progress by the indestructible climate carp of the sector and the release from political bondage of sceptical scientists.

      • Listen, and understand! That Carbonator is out there! It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel facts, or reason, or real-world evidence. And it absolutely will not stop… ever, until CO2 technology is dead!

      • I like the sound of The Carbonator, reminds of the Holly 650 double pumper I installed on my 429 back in high school.
        As another alternative name for the Schwartz (with apologies to Mel Brooks) I suggest The Warminator.

  15. Remember that France is in the state of emergency since November 2015. That is a mark of a great leadership.

  16. It is easy to get caught up in airhead noise these days with so much of it filling the air. Article I, Section 10 of the Constitution of the United States provides that

    “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress … enter into any Agreement or Compact with … a foreign Power …”

    Schwarzenegger & Brown’s cackle falls into the big So-What?

    Will somebody open a window, please?

  17. I listened to to the Therminator in his interview after meeting Macron. After all these years of living in the West he still has a very pronounced accent.
    I distinctly heard him say: “There is no left ear; there is no right ear; we all breathe the same ear. We need to keep Paris” Seems he’s moved on from CO2 and its (claimed) effects. The man’s the south end of a north-facing donkey.

  18. ‘Former California governor meets in France with “great leader” to talk about environmental issues.
    ——————
    Must be great to be in as good a shape as Arnie, that’s a mighty long swim for him, all the way across the Atlantic.

    Oops, sorry, of course he didn’t swim – he rowed a boat.

    Sure got there fast.

    Being as concerned as he is about CO2 emissions, there’s no way he’d even consider flying there in a CO2 spewing, fossil fuel powered plane, right? Right???

    • He had special ”green” fabric sent back from the future and constructed a small sailing vessel of reclaimed plastic products he found lying around the beach and sailed, so he wouldn’t ”pollute” with the plant food that gives the planet life.
      ——————————–
      Art June 26, 2017 at 10:45 am
      ‘Former California governor meets in France with “great leader” to talk about environmental issues.
      ——————
      Must be great to be in as good a shape as Arnie, that’s a mighty long swim for him, all the way across the Atlantic.

      Oops, sorry, of course he didn’t swim – he rowed a boat.

      Sure got there fast.

      Being as concerned as he is about CO2 emissions, there’s no way he’d even consider flying there in a CO2 spewing, fossil fuel powered plane, right? Right???
      ———————————

  19. “And now we will deliver together to make the planet great again.”
    The planet has not been better for a long time, plants are thriving and the planet is greening. The only ones who can not like that are the Greens.

  20. Arnold pretty much goes with the crowd and he’s surrounded by eco-nuts, so that’s his whole perspective. It’s not like you can accuse him of creativity. He has VERY basic business and promotional understanding. His entire career is based on a couple of two and three word catch-phrases that were written for him – basically in one movie – all to keep him from having to say too much.

    Perhaps he should just focus on population control by leaving his housekeepers alone.

  21. Trump is an egotistical bully or clown depending on your point of view. He marginally won an election, albeit with fewer votes than crooked H. He certainly is not an expert on climate change or any other science – he hasn’t the intellect for it.

    Schwarzenegger has every right to talk to whomsoever he wishes. Whether you agree or disagree with his views on climate change is of course a personal judgement (I largely don’t agree with them).

    Vilifying those who hold views at variance to your own should not be a feature of the greatest democracy in the world, but a behaviour expected of a despot or dictator.

    • ‘Trump is an egotistical bully or clown depending on your point of view.’

      So, since you said so, I guess those are the only two options.
      Talk about ego.

    • Schwarzenegger has a proclivity for showing poor judgment, not the least of which is his affair and subsequent child with a housekeeper.

    • TW

      But what you accuse others of appears to be what you have just done.

      I guess leading by example…

    • Actually we all have good reason to believe several million of Hillary’s votes are fake.

      Trump seems to be an expert on climate change, he said it’s a scam. It is a scam.

      Trump certainly mastered the science of staying competitive in a changing high stakes world.

      Which part of ”climate signts” do you think is science Terry? The part about insulation being able to stop light from arriving at the earth, but make the earth warm like more light reached it?

      You don’t need a science degree to figure out that never was, isn’t now, and never will be science.
      ==========================
      Terry Warner June 26, 2017 at 12:34 pm
      Trump is an egotistical bully or clown depending on your point of view. He marginally won an election, albeit with fewer votes than crooked H. He certainly is not an expert on climate change or any other science – he hasn’t the intellect for it.

      Schwarzenegger has every right to talk to whomsoever he wishes. Whether you agree or disagree with his views on climate change is of course a personal judgement (I largely don’t agree with them).

      Vilifying those who hold views at variance to your own should not be a feature of the greatest democracy in the world, but a behaviour expected of a despot or dictator.
      ======================

  22. They seem to have stepped into the marvel universe? Captain Planet and his sidekick the Smug Windbag! Let’s all plant a tree in our neighbours garden to celebrate this union of mindless!

  23. It’s a conference/tourism issue for France and burning lots of jet fuel to get there is just part of the sacrifices that have to be made.

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