California Governor Brown imposing massive regulations for meaningless climate goals

Guest essay by Larry Hamlin

California Governor Brown’s SB 32 law requiring the state to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to levels 40% below levels measured in 1990 is necessitating the development of massive numbers of new regulations and policy that will allow the state government to control and dictate virtually every aspect of Californian’s lives including:

  • where and how they can live,
  • what kind of jobs and businesses they can work in,
  • what kind of housing they can have,
  • what kind of car they can drive (if any),
  • how many miles can they drive,
  • what kind of public transportation they must use,
  • how many times they must walk and bicycle,
  • how much and what kind of energy they can use,
  • what kind and how food can be farmed,

etc, etc.

The AB 32 year 2020 greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets (year 2020 levels reduced to year 1990 measured levels) could be achieved by primarily addressing electricity generation and industrial sector greenhouse gas emission reduction efforts through increased use of renewable energy, energy efficiency and fuel substitution efforts.

But the SB 32 emission targets are so absurdly set that every aspect of Californian’s lives must be dictated and controlled to achieve Governor Brown’s ludicrous climate alarmist driven goals.

The largest single source of the states greenhouse gas emissions by far and away is the transportation sector (37%) with the industrial sector second (24%) , instate electricity generation third (12%) and import electricity generation and agriculture tied at fourth (8%).


The massive escalation in the states greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets between SB 32 versus AB 32 is huge with the reduced emissions target level declining from AB 32 levels of 431 million metric tons in 2020 to SB 32 levels of 259 million metric tons in 2030.


This huge escalation in emissions reduction as well as the shorter time period for accomplishing the reduction to achieve California’s 2030 greenhouse gas emissions goal means that every sector of the states economic activity will be mandated to undertake unprecedented, hugely costly and far reaching measures to contribute toward trying to meet these politically contrived requirements.

But what does the impact of California’s massive new government bureaucracy and costly effort to achieve its SB 32 emissions reduction goals mean relative to the global greenhouse gas emissions levels?

The 2016 EIA IEO report documents that global CO2 emissions in 2030 are forecast to be 39,103 million metric tons of CO2 with these emissions levels dominated by the developing nations lead by China and India.

California’s greenhouse gas emissions are comprised of about 84% CO2 which means that the reduction of CO2 between SB32 and AB 32 is about 144 million metric tons of CO2 by year 2030.


Thus the California SB 32 CO2 reduction target is less than 0.4% of the global CO2 emissions EIA forecasts for year 2030 which is truly trivial and insignificant. This level of reduced emissions has no meaningful impact whatsoever at a global scale.

Those attempting to argue that other countries will follow California’s lead in emissions reduction are completely out of touch with reality with what the world’s largest and fastest growing emissions countries are now doing regarding the increased use of coal fuel on a global basis.

China is now generating electricity using coal fuel at record high levels and in addition is engaging in efforts with other countries such as Pakistan to build large numbers of coal plants in that country.

China also has an on-going global strategy based on building coal power and was involved in 240 coal power projects in 65 countries between 2001 and 2016.


India is going forward with large numbers of new coal plants and completely ignoring any voluntary emissions reduction commitment discussed under the Paris agreement.

A new paper concludes  that India will rely upon use of coal fuel as its energy mainstay for the next 30 years.

Additionally both China and India increasingly dominate ownership of coal reserves  with 117 companies identified producing 3 billion tons of coal a year with 150 billion tons of coal in reserves.

Africa has announced plans for building more than 100 new coal plants to address its severe energy shortages that are contributing to the dismal economic condition of many of its countries.


The idea that many other world countries that desire high energy growth using coal fuel regardless of the greenhouse gas emission levels are going to abandon their enormous existing use and future growth of coal fuel because of California’s ridiculous climate alarmist driven schemes is totally absurd.

A recent series of articles in the L. A. Times outlined the massive regulatory and policy change impacts that SB 32 will impose upon the people of California here, here, and here.

In these articles extraordinary admissions are noted from the states leaders about the complete lack of knowledge, expertise and experience of the state government needed to achieve these escalated emissions goals demonstrating that these leaders are cavalierly plunging ahead with SB 32 politically driven emissions reduction mandates:

without regard to the massive economic consequences,

without clear understanding of how these emission levels can be achieved,

without comprehensive communication to the 37 million people of California whose existing lives and futures will be ripped apart by the demands imposed by these goals and

without any mention of the global irrelevance and meaningless of the outcome of achieving these state emission reduction goals.

The state governments monumental arrogance in moving forward with SB 32 is characterized in the following observations contained in the Times articles:


Serious concerns about the economic damage the states emissions goals could create were noted in the Times articles as well:


State Senate leader Kevin de Leon’s quote in a recent article captures an astounding display of climate alarmist elitism that shrugs off as unimportant the huge yet unknown impacts of the states emission mandates on its 37 million residents.


The state doesn’t know what it’s doing but Senate leader Kevin de Leon has decided “The debate is over”.

The Times articles address how SB 32 emissions goals will have dramatic impacts mandating increased housing density and significantly decreased motor vehicle use in California requiring many tens of billions of dollars in expenditures across the state to accomplish.


The Times articles further address the unknowns and uncertainty regarding how the huge reductions in driving miles and transportation emissions related required decreases can be achieved.


The states agricultural industry will also be dramatically impacted by SB 32 mandates as noted in the Times articles.


Perhaps the most ridiculous and absurd comment regarding the value of the SB 32 emission reduction mandates contained in the Times articles was the following:


How can any rational person credibly claim that China, India and other energy hungry developing nations of the world are going to “export” the folly of California’s climate alarmist policies to their countries?

California has now created a world where Governor Brown, Senate leader Kevin de Leon and Air Board Chairwomen Mary Nichols will determine at huge cost and without the appropriate knowledge, expertise, planning and communication how everyone of the 37 million people of the state must live every aspect of their lives to meet meaningless climate goals with the resulting massive sacrifices that will impact California citizens having no consequence on the global emissions stage.

California is proceeding down this absurd emissions reduction path while the “science” supposedly supporting climate alarmism claims is crumbling with global climate models shown to be flawed and failed by climate scientist testimony before Congress and UN IPCC acknowledgements of the undeniable truth that it is impossible to create credible global climate models which, in fact, has been the case for the last 25 years.


Additionally testimony before Congress also shows no connection between greenhouse gas emissions and increased severe weather, including hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts, as falsely claimed by climate alarmists.


Finally NOAA 2016 updated coastal sea level rise tide gauge data shows no acceleration in sea level rise along the California coastline or anywhere else despite false claims by the UN IPCC that man made emissions have been increasing rates of sea level rise since the 1970’s.


California’s politically driven climate alarmist emissions reduction goals are meaningless and completely unnecessary and threaten to produce massive damage to the states economy and to the lives and freedoms of all of its 37 million citizens.


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Tom Halla

This sort of thing is the sort of thing that caused me to leave California for Texas. When you think the politicians have hit a peak of weirdness, they exceed their previous example.


One unspoken outcome is their stupidity becomes the envy of other state legislatures and is cloned into stupid laws in other states too.

This is not stupidity, stupid.

SB 32 law requiring the state to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to levels 40% below levels measured in 1990 is necessitating the development of massive numbers of new regulations and policy that will allow the state government to control and dictate virtually every aspect of Californian’s lives

That is the whole aim from the politicians PoV and from the leffy “progressive” climate lobby. Their aim is to dictate all aspects of peoples’ lives.
Sob 32 is just one part of that movement.

Sorry, that should have read SoB 32.

The only thing sadder and more pathetic than the pathetic gibberish published in this blog are the people who are dumb enough to believe this utter bull crap. You love to be lied to. You lap up the lies as if there is no tomorrow. Do you have a sign on your foreheads: Over here, I am gullible and poorly educated, lie to me! And because you can’t differentiate between fakery and facts, you think that you are in a special club of people with special fake knowledge, judging and blaming everyone who is actually educated and knowledgeable and connected to reality. You ought to be thanking people who have got their heads screwed on right and actually do something.
[The mods are confused. Are you discussing the NYTimes/LATimes/WashPo/SA websites and their readers? .mod]


What will Gov. Brown do about all the smoke and pollution drifting into California from Mexico? Perhaps he could build a pollution wall. Yeah…that’s it. A big wall with solar powered fans on top to blow the polluting smoke back to the South during the daytime.


By the way Lisa, you have yet to address the blog post,which is a common behavior of a warmist fanatic,seen everywhere.

[ mod ], lisa addresses wuwt + readers!
Cheers – Hans

And doing so Lisa was able to raise a smile since don’t remember when.

Lisa reminds me of Nick Stokes, of whom I still do not know whether he is from the family of the famous fluid dynamics.
And thus to a “Salzburg heute” TV show with the great-grandson of Christian Doppler.
This great-grandson is, of course, a celebrity in the birthplace of the famous physicist,
when asked by the reporter to the Doppler effect, he replied “I am not so concerned with science, I could not say anything about this Doppler effect.”

Thanks Lisa, despite the general insults and ranting, you do not challenge ANYTHING presented here. Is there anything you are able to refute ? Apparently not.
Like most alarmists you are just venting your frustrations that not everyone is as unquestioning as you are. I’m sure that you feel better now that you have underlined political identity in public and tweeted everyone about how you bravely insulted WUWT readers from the safety of your keyboard. Well done.
“I’m politically leftwing, therefore I love the environment, therefore CARBON ! ” Thanks Lisa for explaining what identity politics is all about.


Exactly what I was thinking. As a Texan, I kind of feel bad for Californians, but they’ve got feet.
To me, this only means that any manufacturing industries that California has left will be shutting down, and a lot of that will be moving to Texas. (since we’re actively recruiting them already) Cheaper energy, infinitely better regulatory environment, much lower taxes – for anyone with any kind of plant that is a big energy user, the move is a slam dunk.
The funny/sad thing is that once they finally realize how much trouble they’ve made for themselves, they’re going to try and get them back – but it’ll be too late. It will be generations before any serious business owners trust that state again.


it would be better to build a wall around the entire state of california .let those that live there know it will become a zero fossil fuel and associated product state and they must make their mind up whether to leave or stay by a certain date.
those in other states that wish to live like that can move to california prior to the wall being closed . give it ten years and i am sure the vast majority of occupants will have changed their minds regarding the evils of fossil fuels and co2.

Walter Sobchak

Don’t feel sorry for them. Laugh at them.
They will get what they deserve, and quite a bit more besides.

Mike McMillan

Breathtaking legislating. Bold, innovative, California leading the nation.
(Bring the business, leave the lefties.)
Mike in Houston

Malcolm Carter

Maybe they will let the rich buy indulgences so that they can continue to fly their Leers and motor their yachts. Thankfully California is doing the great religious experiment on 35 million of their own and I live a long way away. Perhaps by 2025 we see the Utopia and follow what seemed like madness or see the Dystopia and have a quiet chuckle as we shed a small tear.


“bitchilly May 19, 2017 at 2:29 pm
it would be better to build a wall around the entire state of california .”
Are you talking about “Escape from California? ” Where is Snake Plissken when you really need him?

Leonard Lane

Perhaps a rational response to California’s disastrous CO2 reduction plan might include some of the following elements.
1) Determine if these drastic steps are likely to survive court challenges and elections. If there is a high probability, then start on your personal action plan.
2) Plan your departure from California for a near optimal time. Before property/business values plummet to recoup the maximum the maximum of your investments through sales at good prices.
3) Simultaneously investigate the best states/cities to move to when you leave California.
4) Carefully plan and begin your steps to depart, but do so in quiet to maximize your individual sales and transfers.
5) Accomplish you move/transfer early in the departures before the peak departure time which will coincide with the minimum return from property/investments
6) Once you decide, to move DO NOT take your “California habits and practices” with you (including your leftist political views if you have them).
7) Try your best to adopt the culture and political views of your destination state/city and change everything in your mind and habits that caused you to leave California. Take none of the bad things with you.
8) Make up your mind that if you are gong to leave, that everything will be better at your new out of state location: people, culture, weather, politics, education, religion (yes you will need one), opportunities, work habits, recreation, etc.. NEVER think or talk about how California was better in this way, that, way, etc. this will only make you unhappy with the move and make your new friends and neighbors wish you would go back to California and take your superiority complex with you.
9) Always remember you are after a new life, not a blend of the old and new.
10) Be happy with the change and look to the future knowing you made the correct decision.


Mass exodus will help with the Manmade emissions reductions and impact….none except “nature” left doing anything. Look for any difference. / Semi sarc


11. Summary of items 6 through 10: DO NOT Californicate.

South River Independent

This will require some kind of computer model.

Mark Stephens

It always a blend of old and new, its never that clear cut. What would I need a region for FFS? Is that a migration requirement now? I will need to join the colander wearers.

David B

Thank you, very well said. I wish all Europeans were forced to read your comments before immigrating. I am equally sick of that bunch of pompous degenerates.

As life in CA becomes noticeably more difficult, there are two more things to do.
1. Look for the bottom in the real estate market as more and more people leave the state,
2. Build the opposition either Republican or Libertarian Party to take over once those who remain in California revolt.

Time for California to split-up into two states – the coastal regions for the loonies and the rest for the sane people. At the least, a lot more companies will relocate to freedom friendly states. The entire West Coast is in danger of losing their collective minds.

Mark Stephens

I suspect they will loose a lot of good minds through this

“The entire West Coast is in danger of losing their collective minds.”
Too late. The loony left has taken over and due diligence has become a test of whether or not something fits the narrative. Even otherwise intelligent people are being sucked in by the fake news, fake science and fake brains.


These policies sound very much like Agenda 21 to me.
This is a nasty influence coming from the United Nations and it has struck my city and many others around the world.
Property rights are included in Governor Brown’s craziness as they proved to be under threat although a little more subtle during the earthquakes that devastated my city.
Property rights or confiscation of them feature prominently under Agenda 21 and its off shoots.
See page 8 here.
I have an account of the aftermath of the earthquake here which trampled on property rights in a reasonably subtle way.
Be sure to read all the links you can.

James in Perth

The good news is that if the regulations overshoot and are found to constitute a “taking,” then the cost will bankrupt the state. I can only see that as a positive if it ends the socialist experiment or if it results in the withdrawal of the regulations.


I was wondering as I read down through the postings when someone would join the Californian dots to show the picture of the UN Sustainable Development Agenda and UN Urban Agenda, Habitat III. The UN aims at 2030 as their installation date, the date when they anticipate being able to implement their ‘oversight’ by global ‘administration’, aided and abetted by the euphemistically named ‘Civil Society’, the several thousand UN accredited NGO’s. Proto-global supranational entities like the EU already portray the horror of things to come. Micro-supranational globalism experiments like New Zealand appear well underway, as a once formerly proud and independent country happily and secretly embraces eco-Marxist globalism (TPP), even without the US.


“Most” people are unaware of the efforts to change society to meet UN expectations. It’s stealth efforts from above and from the bottom to minimize concern … and knowledge … of what’s transpiring. People that try to bring it to the publics’ attention are successfully labeled conspiracy theorists by the compliant MSM.


I see the rage here spewed at “them” Californians (tarring everyone in CA with the idiot libtard brush) but remember you are hating on fellow citizens who despise our state government as much as you do. We do “have feet to leave” but selling a home and moving can’t be done in an instant. I moved as far away from SoCal and SF Bay area as I could to enjoy the natural beauty and quiet here on the far northern CA coast, but now even that not enough to keep me here.


Oh it gets worse: The People’s Republic of California is up to serious no good and even Governor Moonbeam is against this one. Think of how extreme that has to be to happen?
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It’s why businesses due to Climate nonsense and other reasons will leave the state to Bankruptcy and quick.
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This should help growth in other states. Good job Governor Moon Beam, I like what you got!

Rhoda R

Unfortunately, the same people who voted for Gov Loony Tune are the ones moving and bringing their madness with them.


We are bracing for another influx of Californian refugees in the Pacific Northwest.

Joe Crawford

The California expats are already well know for Californicating the adjacent states. Looks like now they will just spread their diseases further abroad to more states.

Leonard Lane

Rhoda R. That has been often true in the past, ruined the real estate markets in AZ, OR, etc., new Homeowners Associations with near Nazi rules, influx of leftist voters–in short all they left California to escape. But it doesn’t have to be that way. See my my comment above at: May 19, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Only by making a clean break from California, remembering nothing about California, going free of their old ways, thoughts, and personalities, politics, political correctness, etc. and adopting a new life in their new state/city by adopting local culture, politics, etc. and truly accepting a new and different life in their new homes. They should seek a 100% new life immersed in the new location and forget about the past. Only then will they be fully accepted and happy. Lugging along the old problems from their old life will only ruin their new life too.

Bruce Cobb

Moonbeam Brown puts the looney in looneytunes.

Bob boder

I can’t wait for Calexit

Why do I get this unnatural, overwhelming desire, to smash a former, clapping, presidential candidate in the mouth and remove all his teeth, sans anaesthetic, other than for a few large drams for myself.
A smug, former tobacco baron, who by his own admission didn’t leave tobacco cultivation until he could afford to, and then went on to another form of rabid public exploitation by dealing in carbon credits.
Talk about a human parasite, Gore is it. By comparison, he consigns Trump to the position in contemporary legend status occupied by the likes of John Lennon, David Bowie and our own Terry Wogan. Three of the most charismatic, talented and popular people in the UK.
In reality, Trump is nowhere near those three in any of their qualities, but Gore manages to make it seem he is.
And I’m a Brit!

Ya he didn’t get the name moonbeam for nothing but it is a brilliant plan because all the poor will leave,and even landscapers will have to give up gas powered tools.

Javert Chip

As long as the money flows, the poor have it pretty good.
CA has about 12% of USA population, but about 33% of the welfare cases.


When these new regulations ban the mansions of the rich and powerful and limit them to the same square footage as a middle class California family, then I’ll be impressed.
Until then, it’s just virtue signaling.

Bob boder

Kim Un Brown is trying to make sure that North Korea does shoot a nuke at California by proving that California is every bit as much committed to Communism as North Korea is.

Bob boder

“doesn’t” that is

California is safe from nuclear attack. It has been declared a nuclear free zone. The regulations are piled so high missiles simply bounce off.

Tom O

MarkW, these new regulations will not affect the rich and famous at all. They are designed only for the bottom 90% or so. The intent is to make the average people live in apartment clusters were the square footage will probably not exceed 500 for a 3 bed closet space. This is Agenda 21 at its finest – all population grouped into rats warrens and the rest of the state to be left pristine for the elite to enjoy.
I would guess, also, that the cost of living will be as high as the average income, so no one is ever going to be able to save enough to move. And don’t be surprised to discover that, in the end, there won’t even be roadways between the human enclaves(at least not for the average people to use), so just trying to leave California will be near impossible – unless you are among the elite.
And as for all those electric cars, well, I am not sure where they will be parked since they probably won’t be able to recharge them at the probable energy costs and likely quotas allowed, and if they have roof mounted solar panels to top up the batteries, that still probably won’t be enough to power all the tracking electronics that will be required in the vehicles to insure they aren’t used more than government allows – probably 30 miles or so a day.
Good luck Californians because your government knows what’s best for you, and just remember, you may vote, but you don’t buy the politicians like some people do, so don’t think you are going to change anything in any later election. The “pollies'” owners just wrapped up millions of acres of enjoyable land for themselves without having to buy any of it.


The laws and regulations will never affect how rich people live. There will always be ways around it because the rich people run the state.


That explains why the rich don’t pay any taxes.


MarkW – the State will never touch the wealthy left. They will be exempted (as long as they profess to be good Demorats). Even now, the legislature is quietly writing laws to protect the hollywood crowd. They will likewise serve the tech crowd too. Never assume the left are stupid. They’re far too greedy and entitled for that.


As with Green Germany, Green California Will eventually become an object lesson for the rest of the world. This is the only way we can learn. And besides these are all popular measures so give the people what they want

Bob boder

Not the only way we CAN learn but maybe the only way we WILL learn and even that is sketchy, it usually takes mass starvation before communist learn any lessons.


… it usually takes mass starvation before communist learn any lessons.

Stalin starved 7 million people to death in 1933. He stayed in power until he died two decades later. He obviously learned nothing. link
Mao starved 15 million. He stayed in power another decade and a half. He also learned nothing. link
You’re going to have to produce some convincing evidence before I will believe your assertion that these folks are capable of learning.

Stalin, Mao they learned you stay in power a lot longer if you starve your enemies. Especially if done in the name of helping your enemies see the error of their ways.

Bob boder

Ouch I stand corrected!


reply to CommieBob … Stalin’s forced starvation was on purpose, so what he learned was that the tactic worked … the world did not care … and in fact the “paper of record”, the NY Times, denied it was even occurring while it was going on … nothing to see here … So why would Stalin’s success cause him to lose power?
I don’t know about Mao’s starvation … was it also a “failure” or a “success”? … you need to measure these in the terms of those involved, not your own ethical ideas …


They did not “Learn” because the West and the useless U.N. stood by and did nothing to help !!


reply to Butch … The UN was founded in 1945, so wasn’t around to support Stalin … The League of Nations, however, welcomed the Soviet Union to membership in 1934, the year after … this following formal recognition of the Soviet Union by Roosevelt in November 1933 …

Dave Fair

Without looking it up, I remember the UN as being founded during a 1948 meeting in San Francisco.

Leo Smith

7 people dying is a tragedy. 7 million dying is a statistic


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the world did not care … and in fact the “paper of record”, the NY Times, denied it was even occurring while it was going on … nothing to see here …

Roger Knights

Wikipedia says that the UN was formed in October 1945. Another site gives more details: Oct. 24 in Lake Success, NY.


My grandfather, Alexander Wienerberger, outed Stalin for tgan famine in his book, one of only 2 published records of the famine. He spent 16 years in Lubyanka overall.
[Thank you for his courage, but the mods don’t recognize “tgan famine”.
What is the title of his book? .mod]


Call me Bob eventually the malice were displaced in Beijing and much of that tradition has been repudiated. China is probably the greatest living example crony capitalism the world has ever seen. The Maoist tradition in China is pretty much dead. The case of Stalin’s even starker. So it is true that people eventually learn Great historical lessons after much suffering. They’re starting to catch on in Germany into a certain extent in the US that green energy policies are highly ineffective and the road towards penury and suffering. Germany and California as I say Will become object lessons in failure


Sorry commie Bob the first sentence was a little garbled. But I did say is that eventually the Maoists were displaced in Beijing and indeed the Stalinists were replaced in Russia.

Javert Chip

it’s unclear “displaced” and “replaced” correctly describe the situation.
All societies (even commie ones) evolve over time. Have Russia & China “evolved” – yea; have they repudiated Stalin & Mao – no.

Roger Knights

“Germany and California as I say Will become object lessons in failure”
Along with Spain, Ontario, and the UK (soon); and Australia (ditto).


This like everything else the barking moonbats want is about control, of life, of money, of everything. It was never about climate, or guns or water or air. It was always about turning the small minded fools into self anointed god kings.


How exactly do they get less “carbon” in transportation fuels? Switch to hydrogen?


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Dave Fair

You gotta feed the guy though, RWturner. Plus, think of his methane emissions!

Tom O

But under exertion, he probably breaths out more carbon dioxide than the average engine doing the same amount of work.

The guy is thankful for a job in tourism business.

Don K

They could switch to CNG which works fine as a transportation fuel except for a mild propensity to incinerate the car, driver and any passengers in the event of a collision. But the actual carbon saving wouldn’t be that great. They’ll probably come up with something weirder than that.


Rubber bands come to mind.

Eugene WR Gallun

rbabcock — you clown you !!! — Eugene WR Gallun


They want to dramatically increase the number of electric vehicles while at the same time getting rid of fossil fuel power plants.
The left hand needs to get acquainted with the right hand.

Bob boder

They only have left hands!


Both hands are to busy doing other things … every since they were first issued the challange they have been trying to find their butt.


Well, that is understandable, since their heads are up their butts ! Hard to see in the dark…


They’re not trying to find their butt. They’re trying to find your butt. No sexual motivation involved either. They’re just looking for your wallet. To paraphrase a famous quote, “Grab ’em by their pocketbooks; their hearts and minds will follow.” Secession wasn’t the answer. Now let’s try expulsion.

dan no longer in CA

Tesla, their darling electric car manufacturer, needed to expand from their factory in California. Where did they build it? In Nevada, not California.

Javert Chip

I believe the CA factory is actually the old Toyota & GM factory that closed, among other reasons, due to high union wages. This implies the current workers might be of the same ilk. Stay tuned.

Tom in Florida

What you will hear is a giant sucking sound as people leave Kalifornia in droves. And please don’t come to Florida.


…from your lips to God’s ear


Florida…isn’t that the state founded on drug trade?

It’s not about Climate, it’s about Agenda 2040. State control of people’s lives- soft communism wrapped up in an environmental smokescreen.

The fallacious notion is that this is about saving the environment.
That is a lie.
This will create an absolute dictatorship over the people of California, destroy the economy, throw several hundred thousand people out of work, force companies to leave California, reduce the value of real estate, increase the price of food, clothing, gasoline, diesel fuel and propane, and severely limit individual freedom.
Is this what we want?

Javert Chip

Apparently; CA keeps voting these clown back in. It’s not like Jerry Brown is a surprise to anybody.
Even Chavez was democratically elected. Some electorates get hooked on the kool-aid.


How do people like that get elected? Snapple fact 682,” More turkeys are raised in California than in any other state in the United States.”

Bob boder

Ha ha! that one is good

Dave Fair

Bruce, the continental U.S. tilts to the Southwest and everything loose rolls into CA.


…”Illegal Voting” ?


Those who don’t pay taxes voting for more free stuff.

Pop Piasa

Spot on.


People who do not live in California do not realize that the sheer number of people who live in 5 counties out of 58 decide all the statewide races. All those counties are located in Southern California, where over 33% of the populace is on welfare and 33% of those that aren’t work in government jobs.

John Bell

It will be super interesting what fallout this causes, businesses will be leaving, and I wonder if there will be law suits to counter this. Popcorn please! When I lived in Wisconsin from 85-95 I had to have my car sniffed every year, but in Ohio and Michigan they do not do that.

Rick C PE

Huh? I’ve lived in Wisconsin 67 years and have owned cars for 50. Never have had a requirement for emissions checks in Wisconsin.

Gerry Cooper

I can remember taking the Pontiac Catalina land yacht to a test station to have a probe inserted – in Wisconsin.

John Bell

It was Waukesha county, near Milwaukee, no joke, from 1985-1995 and a few times I flunked the test with a base model 1986 SAAB 900.

Tom O

Most exhaust emissions programs are limited to the cities. If you lived in a “rural” county, then you probably never had the pleasure of having that wand stuck up your tailpipe. Yeah, doesn’t sound quite right!


Rick, living in MD, they only require the vehicle emissions testing in certain regions of the state. I’d assume that’s the case in WI.

I Came I Saw I Left

N Carolina is still like that. And not just emissions testing. OBD emissions-related sensors testing, too. If one fails you can’t get an inspection sticker until you get it fixed. And you can’t renew your tag until you pass inspection. A real racket.

Curious George

I applaud this effort to create new jobs: 25,000 regulators (my estimate). This puts Trump to shame.

Tom in Florida

Don’t forget to count the Carbon Gestapo.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia

At least it will be an interesting race to see which of California, Germany, the U.K or South Australia hits the green insanity complete power failure epic shutdown followed by mass public fury first. Should WUWT organize a sweepstake, keeping 50 per cent of the £5 bets to fund its excellent work, with the rest going to the punters naming the exact day/that meltdown (24 plus hours of more than 90 per cent power shutdown) finally occurs?
My bet would be South Australia on 14 July 2019 (no offense Aussie friends). But I wouldn’t discount the U.K. Hitting the buffers first.

The UK has rather large plans for new nuclear. Ocean windpower has dimmed their enthusiam for
unreliable power generation

View from the Solent

We (UK) have had those plans for years. And still nothing is being built.

Ron Williams

I wouldn’t count Ontario out in your list of failed green states of misery…


…I’ll put $50 on California !

Those folks who envied South America as having the shining example of Venezuela can now relax, the US, and by extension North America, is about to have our own. I’m not sure if even Silicon Valley can save them not. Viva Calexit!


Those in the upper wealth bracket will feel little effect at first, but they will become the tax base. Those who are able to move will do so. Those who are in the lower income brackets will be unable to escape or will have to leave whatever little they have an seek a subsistence living elsewhere. The uncaring ruling class has not changed in 100s of years. Let them eat cake.

Javert Chip

The upper wealth bracket is already feeling it: of CA’s 37M citizens, 145,000 pay 50% of the state’s income tax.
If Trump’s proposal to eliminate state tax deduction for Federal taxes passes (why should other states subsidize high-tax states?), that’ll significantly increase taxes for those in already high-tax states.


And by the way, if anyone’s asking, this is why I left California years ago for Maine. Local motto: “use it up, wear it out, make do or do without”. A better pean to self-reliance cannot be found.

Pean = Paean (hymn of praise). Turns out there are alternative, unrelated definitions of “pean”.

Ron Williams

So much for California Dreamin’…sounding more like a Kalifornian nightmare. The perils of green evangelism has gone off the rails. Gives new meaning to the Grapes of Wrath.


…Not if you are a “Beach Bum” collecting welfare provided by the ever dwindling number of Taxpayers !
PROOF ?? Watch !

John Bell

$200 a month? 50 per week I would almost starve!


OMG, what do you weigh, 600 lbs ?


AND, that is just for food…He gets other money…

Eustace Cranch

This has been a tough century so far for anti-authoritarians like me. I’m very dismayed and pessimistic about the increasing acceptance of centralized state power to manage our lives and control our behavior. More and more, government doesn’t trust us with individual freedom. Neither does the Left. “Question authority,” once a sacred concept to them, has become heresy. The State is assuming the role of God, with enthusiastic support of acolytes like Griff. Marching dreamy-eyed into the clutching arms of totalitarians. This does not end well.

Bob boder

I feel your pain.

Hello Eustace: Fortunately state, county and local government is only as authoritarian as its citizens allow it to be. I don’t how it is where you live, but here in coastal California, I take part in government every day, at every level. I don’t depend on others in Sacramento to do the right things, just as I don’t depend on government officials in my county or my nearby city to do the right thing. I’m right there at public meetings telling them what to do. Many times I’m the only one speaking out on a particular issue, and many times if I had not been there and spoken out, the outcome would have been completely different.
I don’t suit around and complain, I take action.

Javert Chip

Despite your undoubtedly best intentions, doesn’t look like it’s working…


So California has become officially a Fascist State. The National Socialist Democrats. North Korea 2.

This is such a silly, knee jerk reaction. There are innumerable opportunities to take part in the process of state and local government and do something about it, rather than sitting around making up fantasies.


Not if you are sane. The problem is that those who feel they are entitled to take what others have earned are a majority of voters in CA.

I’m not taking what others have earned. Must be someone else.

Javert Chip

At the end of the day (or voting period), it only matters how many fellow citizens agreed with you.
Even this ignores the politician who ignores the will of the people (e.g.: Brown & his bullet train).

Rick C PE

I have no doubt that they’ll achieve their goal. Simple plan – make the state such a miserable place to live that 40% of the population and business leave. Bingo – a 40% reduction in energy demand. The only question then will be if the remaining 60% will stay and deal with the economic collapse.

Rhoda R

And who will pay the massive taxes? That is another question for these jokers because it will be the tax base that ends up moving.

Javert Chip

Except that CA is a magnet or the poor & illegal poor.
Productive people & businesses are migrating out of CA, but CA is not experiencing a decreasing population.

Commies got to commie

David Wells

Jerry Browns reelection campaign “the longest suicide note in history” but is no more and no less than what Christina Figueres decided was the way forward for the planet – Agenda 21 think globally act locally – and reinforced at the UN COP in Quito where it was agreed that henceforth the detestibles should be corralled in skyrise rabbit hutches patrolled by UN apparatchiks 24/7 to ensure limited movement and travel deprived of food and expected to live on the slime dripping off of the factory built concrete featureless hovels. This is Paul Ehrlich writ large remember he said that the planet could only support a population of a few million at best and this is still how the elite think we have to be controlled we cant be allowed unlimited power because of what we might get up to if we had access to it, heaven forfend we might get to enjoy ourselves.
Veganism, animal rights, Co2, methane, coal we remain under control from all sides the objective absolute control the elite in absolute fear and panic about what might happen if the pump runs dry so we are being headed off at the pass to make sure it doesn’t happen and the poor sucker Jerry Brown has be sucked in and sucked out but I cant believe that when 37 million Californians begin to wake up that Brown will succeed because California will just implode.
But here is the quote, she made it quite clear:
“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,” “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” Ottmar Edenhofer, IPCC working group on Mitigation of Climate Change 2008 to 2015.
“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” Christina Figueres, Executive Secretary, UN’s Framework Convention on Climate Change.
Having failed to accomplish their remit – world peace – they are now seeking to deploy their totalitarian regime on those parts of the planet that have lost the will to fight because life has become too easy and Brown and the UN are determined to hit the soft underbelly of people to feeble and besotted with life and liberty to comprehend and understand exactly where the real threat to the hedonistic life styles is coming from. Not from terrorism but from environmentalism difficult to know the difference?

I know, it may be just side show to all the controversial details of global warming. Yet I would like to humbly point to the fact, that I just managed to not just falsify the GHE theory, but also to explain why is as warm as it is .. without greenhouse gases.


The quicker that California blowuptuates, the quicker the rest of the world will see the insanity. Full speed ahead I say!


A few tens of thousands freezing to death during a bad cold snap, and not having enough power to go around, oughta do the trick.

Recall that this is California. We don’t do freeze-ups. We do solar, so we don;t have to worry about power outages.

Dave Fair

Michael, tell that to the millions without power to run air conditioning when impacted by CA “solar.” Consider, also, food spoilage.


It’s pretty sad that it’ll probably take an event like this for people to wake up.

Javert Chip

Don’t hold your breath. You see the beating Greece has taken for the last 5-10 years – it take a lot of killing to blow up a state. And, just like EU taxpayers, the rest of us USA federal tax payers will undoubtedly get sucked into prolonging the misery.

If they are serious about follow through, it will be interesting to watch the implosion.

Rhoda R

It’s been awhile since I read “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” but I remember distinctly that one of the events leading to the fall of the Republic was that the small farm holders were taxed out of existence and their farms were bought out by increasing large landholders/Patricians. Sort of like what is happening now to the farmers in California – as the regulatory regime gets worse and worse they are leaving and I’ll be it’s the likes of Pelosi who are buying up all the land.

The Explulsive

California is way to wealthy and Moonbeam and the Progressifacists want to control that wealth. It will only be impoverishing the population of America can the rest of the world progress (at least that is the impression I get from the Progressifacists in Ontario). All hail.

The Explulsive

That should have been way too wealthy


..I honestly believe that in less then 15 years, that the U.S and Canada will each split and rejoin along party lines so that Alaska will finally be attached to America physically. The 2nd wall to be built at that time will not to be to keep “Illegal Aliens” out, it will be to keep crazy liberal socialists out !! …..IMHO

Clyde Spencer

I’m reminded of the movie, Escape from New York.


Somebody build a wall around California, quick! I know moonbeam said he would build one if Trump was elected but, he seems to have forgotten his promise… kind’a like all those celebrities that promised to leave the country.


Do zero emissions cars consider the CO 2 emissions from electricity produced out of State?

Dave Fair

Cat, someone should ask CA electric utilities what they expect when their current interstate power purchase and transmission wheeling contracts run out. Renewed? Same power import levels? Wheeling costs?
The supplying States have their own population increases, electric demand increases, silly CO2 and other emission regulations, and so on. Will their love of socialist CA override consideration of their citizens’ needs?


The pie chart above includes a category for “Electric Generation (imports)”, which I assumed covered electricity produced out of state.
Of course they have to include the energy needed to make physical products that are imported.

give everyone in California a Tesla. an interest free loan. that will solve the emissions problem and create 100% employment. and as volume increases, prices will decrease. Instead of giving 40K to rich people to buy a 100k Tesla, everyone can have their own 40K Tesla. You might even be able to pick up a near new Tesla for less than 40K, once everyone has theirs.
This idea is no less practical than anything coming out of Sacramental.


I am waiting to see what a used Tesla will be worth when the battery needs replacing.


Scrap value, most likely.
If they don’t decide to charge you thousands for disposing of the toxic waste.


The official state religion?


I think that all Red states should immediately ban all “Liberal Climate Refugees” from relocating into Red states to escape this clown, as revenge for voting for this clown…

One way they can reduce GHG’s is to ban the production of violent movies and TV shows in California with all their fancy explosions and fires. In addition, ban any new houses over 2000 square feet on one floor and mandate that any existing houses over that size must be divided up so that each 2000 square feet is occupied by one family. Then California can have their ideal communes. And no exceptions, Governor Brown. 😉
/Sarc off.


Not many movies are shot in CA anymore.

Oops. Cursor got into name box. Sorry.


I see that the CEPA Air Resources Board says that CO2 is the primary GHG emmitted in California, amounting to 84% of GHG emissions.
So all that irrigation water on agricultural land results in 0% evaporation?
Methinks they need to do some more measurements and do the arithmetic again.
Or maybe just go back to school.

John F. Hultquist

You are not keeping up. To make the transition to the new order of things H2O is not a GHG and hydropower is not renewable.
Here is the IPCC GHG list:

J Mac

The solution is simple, as the “Emissions By Economic Sector” pie chart illustrates. California must shut down all transportation and industry in the Golden State.
Problem Solved.


They are working on it.


I propose that all those who believe it is important to limit CO 2 emissions in their state move to California instead of adopting and mandating the Co2 emission limits in their current state. I would welcome the current NJ Dems in the legislature relocating to where their emission goals are in place. That would make room for us to welcome those from California who don’t like Gov. Brown’s restrictions.
Everybody would be happy at least until reality sets in and the Ax falls.


Economic hardship continues to build throughout California. The relentless taxing and regulation in the state had caused high prices over the entire spectrum. Meanwhile state and local budgets are increasingly eaten up by state employee pensions. So infrastructure falls apart from neglect.
The homeless population is exploding. It’s is magnitudes greater than I’ve seen in my 56 years in this state. Now the homeless are young men and women, not older alcoholic bums. Drive anywhere in the Bay Area or LA and they are everywhere.
It doesn’t take a genius or a PHD study to realize all this is coming to an ugly head.
Now gas prices, already among the highest in the nation, will go up in November raising prices of everything, not just fuel, further burdening the working class.
I can only imagine that California politicians view their citizens with contempt.


Vladimir Lenin’s “Utopia” is indeed alive, through his modern-day incarnation Jerry Brown, Comrades!

Tom Judd

My understanding is that the (corrected thinking) People’s Republic of California, so as to meet (Silly Bill) SB32, will be setting up the People’s Ministry of Walking. Known to the State of California is that meeting SB32 will require far more than the serfs giving up their cars and walking. It will require involvement in every single aspect, and aspect of an aspect, and suspicion of any aspect that may exist in each. and. every. single. inhabitant’s. life. And one aspect is how this substitution of automobility by walkamobility will affect the caloric intake of these newly minted walkers, and how that caloric intake will affect California’s agricultural industry which will also have to make Carbon cuts.
Therefore, the Ministry of Walking will engage in training Californian’s how to walk in the most energy efficient manner possible so the increased walking doesn’t require increased agricultural output to fuel this walking. This is referred to as the Ministry Of Walking caloric DOWN initiative (or MOW DOWN for short). MOW DOWN will issue licenses to these new pedestrian serfs, much like driver’s licenses are currently issued, and will ticket licensed walkers for improper, inefficient, jay, and other illegal forms of walking. The fines collected will help to offset the lost profits taxes from businesses which, due to SB32, will be scooting out of the state faster than a JATO assisted bat outta’ hell.
Moreover, California hopes to export this unique walking technology throughout the world. They hope to refine it to the point where human beings can live and remain active with no food whatsoever. Thus, California, and California alone, will nudge humanity into a future where death and starvation have simply ceased to exist.

Bruce Cobb

I think the Ministry of Silly Walks might have something to say about that:

Russell Johnson

Brown’s fascist experiment and one party rule will soon come crashing down. His ludicrous homage to the religion of climate change is destroying businesses statewide. The massive regulation burden will have zero measurable impact on climate or temperature. Advice to all rational Californians: get out now while escape is possible!

Dave Fair

You mean escape before CA slaps a fee on out-migration, Russell?

Whatever happened to the Reagan’s California of careless days and magnificent sunsets on the Venice Beach of the late summer in 1972.


Welcome to the “Peoples Republic of California”


No! It’s the Socialist Utopia of Kalifornia, Comrade OB!

Javert Chip

(sigh) I actually lived there back then (retired to FL 4.5 years ago).
CA either has, or will continue to, or soon will PC itself to death.

Dave Fair

Socialist do-gooders ruined it, vukvevic.


Whatever happened to the Reagan’s California of careless days and magnificent sunsets on the Venice Beach of the late summer in 1972.

5,000,000+ illegal aliens. Voting for their democrat-welfare paid pocketbooks. Plus 40 years of socialist democrats voting to support those illegal aliens.

Robert of Texas

What people seem to be missing is when this economic catastrophe called California finally belly’s up, its the Fed that will be bailing them out…i.e. all tax payers including those in well run states – so we are all on the hook for this mess.
There will be a huge out flux of people (bigger than you have seen to this point) seeking jobs including the left-wing nuts. They will continue to turn well-run areas into badly run areas by bringing their progressive and green beliefs with them. Over time the belief-disease spreads.
There will be hundreds of billions of dollars needed to put California budget and services back together again, including pensions. (California is going to be our Greece). This will likely be absorbed as more Federal debt.
There is simply no substitute for a financially conservative well run government – at any level.


Don’t be so sure.
Trump might just sit back and watch it burn, as an object lesson to other states.

I am from OZ and follow this crap in Cal. If Trump is still in charge when it goes belly up,Cal will get its just deserts.

Tom Anderson

I can’t help marveling at how stupid and/or passive Californians must be, or if they will ever wake up to how much personal liberty they are surrendering. I have lived in state most of my life, and as an uncle of mine once said about Oakland, I wonder how can so many dunderheads live in one place?
Socialism has been around for well over 100 years. There are no surprises anymore. Its record has always been, to a greater or lesser degree, uniformly abysmal. Friedrich Hayek’s short book, “The Road to Serfdom,” precisely and exhaustively reviews and analyzes its every failing and failure. It is a book that belongs on every American’s mandatory reading list.

Javert Chip

It’s like boiling a frog by starting with cold water. The frog never sees it coming until it’s too late.
When I moved to Fl to retire from CA (4.5 years ago), I got talked into telecommuting for an additional 6 months, including gross FL pay at my CA rate. Stunningly, this ended up be being a $25k/annual after-tax increase.
(Note: FL has no income tax and no state SDI tax).


Will moving vans be able to get fuel?


I suspect that a true understanding of what is happening in California (and also in Australia , Canada, UK ) will require the assistance of a professional psychologist, but whilst waiting for one to offer his services here, this is my amateur psychological analysis.
It all depends on the GDP/capita – so go to Wiki:
and what we see is that , in units of International dollars , USA GDP/capita is 56 to 57 thousand , well ahead of Australia at 46- 47thousand , Canada at 46 thousand and UK at 41-42 thousand .
Given that Californians are probably better than the US mean in GDP/capita , the residents of that state can indulge in a great deal of money- and productivity- sapping experiments in “saving the world” before their standard of living falls to that of Australians , who have a very comfortable lifestyle , and they would have to lose a great deal of money indeed before falling to UK standards , which I can assure readers is reasonably comfortable for most people.
Add the fact that increasingly the population of California comprises recent arrivals from Mexico (GDP/capita = 18000 INt$ ) for whom even a Brown – ravaged California will seem in comparison a paradise and there is no incentive from anyone for any objection to Brown’s proposals.
One thing does puzzle me however : Trump is President of the US , but cannot pass a single piece of legislation, despite a majority in Congress , Brown is merely a Governor , but every thought that he has immediately has the power of the law.
It seems ironic that Presidents of the US are commonly referred to in the UK media as “the most powerful person in the world” – clearly not this one.


Yes. In a word: decadence.

Javert Chip

Actually, Brown can’t do that on his own. He needs (and currently has) a super majority of both legislative houses.
However, there is what may be a successful recall of a CA senator, which if flipped to Republican, would eliminate the supermajority, at least in the senate.
Obama had this same circumstance in his first 2 years (Scott Brown replace Ted Kennedy).


“One thing does puzzle me however : Trump is President of the US , but cannot pass a single piece of legislation, despite a majority in Congress”
Actually, Trump has signed at least 32 legislative bills into law. You just don’t hear about these things because the MSM is too busy talking about Russian collusion.


Thank you TA, at least someone is prepared to introduce some balance .
You may have seen the following (from the JoNova site);
and the image in this part of the report is particularly revealing and supports your comment:


Mike, the Leftwing Media are definitely outdoing themselves in their efforts to smear Trump. I’ve never seen a feeding frenzy like this from the MSM since the heighth of the Watergate investigation but at least there, they had some actual wrongdoing to focus on at that time.
To date, there is NO evidence that Trump has done anything illegal, but the MSM is in a feeding frenzy anyway. A self-created and generated frenzy that has no relationship to reality and whose sole purpose is to harm Trump in any way possible.
There really is such a thing as “Trump Derangement Syndrome” (TDS). The Left is willing and eager to believe anything bad that is said about Trump, or any other Repubican for that matter.
We have a big problem: One political party controls nearly all the news organizations. So the viewers only get the viewpoint of one political party. And since that political party is a particularly nasty, hateful, dishonest party, you get some really nasty, untruthful rhetoric about their poltical opponents from them. The only thing to do is to keep fighting back.
One good thing is the MSM’s credibility with the public is very low, and going after Trump so vigorously without any evidence, the way they are doing, is going to hurt their crediblity even more. They are starting to sound like the “boy who cried wolf” too many times, and people stopped paying attention to the boy.
Bob Woodward, the liberal Washington Post reporter who broke the Watergate story, said yesterday that the Leftwing networks were drinking too much Trump kool-aid. So even some liberals are seeing that the MSM is causing damage to itself by its irrational attaks on Trump. They really are hysterical.


More shoot, ready, aim from Brown followed by self congratulations and smugness. Nothing will get in his way of determining how others should live or how much they will contribute to his plans for the state. He actually believes California is a nation unto itself. His heir apparent …. Newsom … will be more of the same on steroids.

Joel Snider

They’re really acting out here on the Left coast. Tiny little Napoleons having tantrums and forcing themselves on anyone they can.

“Do you have your permission papers to leave your sector?” asked the Environmental Patrolman as he wanded the tailpipe for emissions compliance.


I’m reminded of the movie “District 9”. Papers please.