Will US Climate Scientists All Move to France? Please?

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Speculation is mounting about whether President Macron will keep his promise to take all our climate scientists, and offer them a new home in France.

Back in February, then Presidential Candidate Emmanuel Macron offered US climate scientists who were worried about their future under President Trump a new home in France.

Will President Macron keep his promise?

(President Macron speaking in English)

Interest in Macron’s offer has surged since he won the French Presidency;

French president-elect Emmanuel Macron mocks US counterpart Donald Trump over climate change

MAY 9, 20179:32AM

The message was recorded in February but surged in views yesterday following the former investment banker’s election.

The message, which he reiterated after his historic win, centres on his commitment to preserve the budget to fight climate change.

It also has a none-too-subtle dig at Trump.

“Please come to France, you are welcome. It’s your nation; we like innovation. We want innovative people. We want people working on climate change, energy, renewables, and new technologies.”.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/macron-mocks-trump-in-video/news-story/f19b2dc9a3f1f849632ca544e86a7fb6

I am deeply moved by President Macron’s words “The Message for you guys – come to France”.

President Macron, please take them. Take them all.

But be warned, they will expect you to feed them; don’t expect us to pay for their upkeep.

Thanks to Brexit, the days of English speaking countries subsidising the French are over.

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May 10, 2017 5:26 am

Monsieur Macron, be careful what you wish for. If the so-called climate scientists take up your offer, they will demand a house larger than 97% of the population and an income greater than 97% of the French population. In exchange, they will only give you words that are filled with hypocrisy. That is a bad deal for you. The only ones who win in these climate scientists world are themselves and their bootlickers.

Elston Solberg
May 10, 2017 5:33 am

Hey could we add a couple of Canadian politicians to assist with CC information dissemination? Rachel Notley (Premier of Alberta) and glamour boy, Little Potato, Justin Trudeau (cardboard cutout Prime Minister). He speaks French, she speaks nonsense.

Latitude
May 10, 2017 5:35 am

…gets a childish slam in there too
we like innovation. We want innovative people

Keith J
Reply to  Latitude
May 10, 2017 6:15 am

There is no innovation. Only cargo cultism.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Latitude
May 10, 2017 11:16 am

But like Obama, Macron intends to use over reach to go around the union bosses for major labor market reforms. All chaos will ensue at that point so good luck even getting in the place or down the street.

Resourceguy
May 10, 2017 6:09 am

Just take Penn State faculty, frats, and athletics and everything will be better.

May 10, 2017 7:05 am

Just to be clear, I wouldn’t want all Climate Scientists to move to France,
only the CAGW supporting ones.

Javert Chip
Reply to  JohnWho
May 11, 2017 8:32 am

According to Cook et al., that’d be about 97% of them…

William Astley
May 10, 2017 7:22 am

Shipping a mass of US cult of CAGW ‘scientists’ to France will not change what is coming next.
The EU is going to break up as countries start to go bankrupt. You know who your real friends are when you are broke and need money.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing (Idiotic socialistic countries spending more money than is taken in in taxes year by year by year and ignoring structural issues which cause massive local job losses) and expecting a different outcome (see Greece for the winner in the race to financial hell).
There will be no money to spend on green scams that do not work at a time when the planet is unexplainably cooling.
Ironically France will be one of the countries which will be most affected by the Heinrich event (abrupt cooling).
The most amount of cooling occurs in the latitude band of 40 to 60 degrees which not coincidentally is the region of the planet (global warming is not global) that warmed the most in the last 150 years.
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-french-bordeaux-vineyards-could-lose-half-of-harvest-due-to-frost-2017-5

France’s Bordeaux wine industry predicts a €2 billion loss this year due to massive frost damage
Frost damage varied widely depending on the precise area, with some owners expected to lose only 15 to 30 percent of their grape harvest, but others at risk of seeing their entire production wiped out.
Growers have resorted to using candles, heaters and even the down-draught from helicopters to try to save crops.
France’s total wine output fell 10 percent last year due to adverse weather conditions. Champagne was the worst hit, with the harvest down more than 20 percent on the previous year due to spring frosts followed by other problems such as mildew.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/02/english-vineyards-frost-champagne-bordeaux-burgundy

English vineyards report ‘catastrophic’ damage after severe April frost
English winemakers are reporting “catastrophic” crop damage after the worst frost in a generation wiped out at least half of this year’s grape harvest.
Chris White, the chief executive of Denbies Wine Estate in Surrey, said up to 75% of its crop was damaged by last week’s sub-zero temperatures: “The temperature dropped to -6C and at that level it causes catastrophic damage to buds,” he said.
Some of France’s most famous winemaking regions, including Champagne, Bordeaux and Burgundy, were also affected by last week’s severe frosts. The bad weather is expected to mean another poor year for French producers after last year’s cocktail of hail, frost and mildew resulted in one of the smallest harvests in 30 years.

http://bbso.njit.edu/Research/EarthShine/literature/Palle_etal_2004_ASR.pdf
Enric Pallé (William: Enric is a French Guy) et al. paper.
i.e. There are French guys that have already solved the AGW non problem. There is no CAGW problem and there is no appreciable AGW. Changes in cloud properties and cloud amounts due to solar cycle changes caused the majority of the warming in the last 150 years.

The Earthshine Project: update on photometric and spectroscopic measurements
“Our simulations suggest a surface average forcing at the top of the atmosphere, coming only from changes in the albedo from 1994/1995 to 1999/2001, of 2.7 +/-1.4 W/m2 (Palle et al., 2003), while observations (William: Earthshine Project Observations of high latitude 40 to 60 degree change in cloud cover of 7.5 watts/m^2) give 7.5 +/-2.4 W/m2. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 1995) argues for a comparably sized 2.4 W/m2 increase in forcing, which is attributed to greenhouse gas forcing since 1850.
“As evidence for a cloud—cosmic ray connection has emerged, interest has risen in the various physical mechanisms whereby ionization by cosmic rays could influence cloud formation. In parallel with the analysis of observational data by Svensmark and Friis-Christensen (1997), Marsh and Svensmark (2000) and Palle´ and Butler (2000), others, including Tinsley (1996), Yu (2002) and Bazilevskaya et al. (2000), have developed the physical understanding of how ionization by cosmic rays may influence the formation of clouds. Two processes that have recently received attention by Tinsley and Yu (2003) are the IMN process and the electroscavenging process. (William: There is a third mechanism.)”

Stephen Richards
Reply to  William Astley
May 10, 2017 12:45 pm

William, I wish you would be correct about the EU breakup but I don’t think you are. Everything hinges on the german’s need to maintain a cheap currency and low wage migrants. This has to be balanced against their nightmarish fear of printing money which comes from the 1930’s collapse of the DM. This balance will determine when and if the EU collapses. I don’t think it will in the next nine years but that’s a guess. I have 80.000€ invested in that guess.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Stephen Richards
May 11, 2017 8:34 am

Well pure(?) Germans may not have been recently printing money, but their central bank sure has been.

Stephen Richards
Reply to  Stephen Richards
May 11, 2017 11:46 am

Javert Chip May 11, 2017 at 8:34 am
Printing silently. I am not convinced that the german public are well, informed. I think the news media is state controlled as in much of europe

Steve Thayer
May 10, 2017 7:44 am

If he wants innovative people that will stop climate change then don’t invite climate scientists. Climate scientists have no motivation to stop climate change, their monetary motivation is to keep pulling in grants to study it, or receive budgets to create climate policy. If they stop climate change what will they do? There will be a lot less money flowing into climate science.
Just like the American Heart Association has no interest in stopping heart disease. Thats why they focus on “risk factors” to heart disease instead of cures, because studying risk factors will never solve or stop heart disease and their empire built on money donated to study heart disease will live on. They all learned from Polio, that was a huge cash cow until they developed a vaccine for it then there was no chance of building a huge Polio studying foundation because it dropped way down the list of threats to human health.
The people who lower human carbon emissions, if thats what he is looking for, will be entrepreneurs, because their motivation is to make money developing new energy technologies, most of which produce less carbon.

MarkW
Reply to  Steve Thayer
May 10, 2017 8:14 am

In what passes for your mind, do you honestly believe that doctors have no interest in curing heart disease?
How exactly do you expect to “cure” heart disease?
Do expect them to create artificial hearts? They’ve been working on that for 30 years. Google Barney Clarke.
Do you expect them to figure out how to prevent plaque from building up in arteries? They’ve been working on that for at least 40 years. They have drugs that help, but they all have limitations. The pharma company that comes up with a magic bullet in this area is going to make a fortune?
I’m guessing you are one of those fools who like Obama, believes that surgeons deliberately cut off healthy limbs so that they can make more money.

May 10, 2017 8:02 am

He can have Al Gore too.

Gary Pearse
May 10, 2017 8:19 am

Is there anyone out there that can bend the ear of Trump on climate change and the Parisite Accord. He had it so right on the campaign trail but he’s getting bad advice. If he doesnt stick with this, then, on balance, my excitement over his election has been largely misplaced.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Gary Pearse
May 10, 2017 8:39 am

If you haven’t already, you can sign CFACT’s PETITION.
He needs to get off the pot, and tear that piece of garbage up. The longer he waits, the more wishy-washy he looks.

R. de Haan
May 10, 2017 8:25 am

Any idea how dangerous this Macron guy really is?
Besides the fact that he is a Globalist and an Eurphile, he will hand over the France’s Force the Frappe, their nuclear arms to integrate with the EU Army, the wet dream of any Apparatchik.
Before Macron this subject was not negotiable.
This will come with implications that the US doenn’t like because this EU Army will be created at the costs of NATO. The Euro Apparatchiks will use their new power to suppress any opposition to their House of Cards.
This is a dangerous development since ultimate power is the major objective of the Commisars.
The other party not amused about this development will be the Russians.
History has learned that big power shifts seldom happen without a quake like response.
I am confident that there will be a lot opposition from French stake holders as well since the Force de Frappe has become an integral part of the identity of many French who believe that their “Grande Republique” no longer exists if their nuclear deterence capability is taken from them.
With the French Wine industry in foreign hands and their national car industry writing red figures for decades, this subject could be very well be the final drop that spills the bucket.
Macron should be aware of the violent herritage his country has dealing with traitors.
They didn’t invent the Guillotine for nothing and history has this awkward tendency to repear its self and Macron has an ideal neck that fits the block perfectly.

TomRude
Reply to  R. de Haan
May 10, 2017 9:29 am

I am afraid he is no more traitor to the country than Sarkozy who handed France armed forces to NATO unified command and ignored the 2005 EU referendum results.
I’d be curious and amused at watching how the French official climate scientists would welcome their US competition in their small shark pool…

Stephen Richards
Reply to  R. de Haan
May 10, 2017 12:48 pm

We only have one guillotine left and that’s in a parisien museum. We will need a lot more before this fiasco ends.

Resourceguy
May 10, 2017 11:58 am

The French were also quick to invite banks to move from London after Brexit. That has not panned out either.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Resourceguy
May 11, 2017 8:41 am

The mere fact that anyone in France thought substantial numbers of wild & crazy free market (or worse) London bankers would actually move to Paris demonstrated…shall we say…a loose grasp of reality.

Retired Kit P
May 10, 2017 12:16 pm

The gullibility of American politicians amazes me. France is a country that used up their coal and then adopted US reactor designs.
For the record, France is a distant second after the US when it comes to making electricity from fission. The French have failed to get their new design, EPR, licensed in France, Finland, the US, and China so far. The reason is arrogance. In today’s world of rigorous regulatory oversight, ‘trust us’ we are the best does not go very far.
I found dealing with the US NRC very straight forward. Here are the requirements, show us how you meet them. Yes, it was a lot of work.
However, when the NRC lost confidence in the management of a nuke plant things became very difficult. Again it was arrogance. While the indicators show the performance was not good, management thought the NRC was ‘picking’ on them unfairly. They brought in a team from good running plants to prove to the NRC they were good. When one plant manager looks across the table at the exit meeting and tells the other that he does not trust their ability to safely operate the nuke plant, it is a wake up call.
Being shut down on the NRC watch list is bad for business. Excellence and making lot of electricity is good.
As a matter of disclosure, I worked for AREVA. The year I retired I spent two weeks in France. On vacation we went to American cemetery in Normandy. It was the most inspiring thing in France and also emotionally difficult. Considering we spent our anniversary at Versailles, that is saying a lot about our culture. While I would recommend France as a tourist destination, I would trade Indiana or Iowa for anything in France.

crotalus
May 10, 2017 12:20 pm

‘Chase them to France’ works better.

Resourceguy
May 10, 2017 12:47 pm

You mean like all the Brexit bankers moving to France? not

May 10, 2017 3:14 pm

A warning for France!
If you import Michael Mann, don’t let him near any tree rings!!
He’ll undo the French Revolution!!!

May 10, 2017 3:15 pm

Or another austrian actor, emotionless texting I’ll be back:
https://youtu.be/HG3W37bxuqg

May 10, 2017 3:27 pm

reliable, renewable, sustainable https://youtu.be/RSIvsjUdv9Q

May 10, 2017 3:41 pm
Rob
May 10, 2017 3:46 pm

What if you’re someone investigating what really is going on… not just CO2 And atmospheric content, but other impacts like our land use?

Richard Nehring
May 10, 2017 5:09 pm

Could we call this the “no-brainer” drain?

stevefitzpatrick
May 10, 2017 6:56 pm

Will US climate scientists relocate in France?
J’espère bien!

Robert B
May 11, 2017 2:10 am

I think Australia is picking up some of the tabs eg buying overpriced subs

May 12, 2017 11:14 am

“Will US Climate Scientists All Move to France? Please?”
Just to be sure, for other reasons, Richard Lindzen already lives in Paris much of the time but he’s just visiting us/me in Pilsen and Prague, the Czech Republic. When he arrived from Pilsen to Prague earlier today, he said it was a great idea to start with Pilsen because there are more tourists in Prague than in Paris which is pretty bad. 😉