From the refund is due to his supporters department…
Back on January 30th I posted this:
Help send Kenji to the “Scientists March on Washington” event!
From the “all’s fair in love, war, and climate science” department comes this opportunity.
On Facebook, Dr. Roy Spencer made a comment related to a post on the original website calling for scientists to “March on Washington” to…
…take a stand for science in politics. Slashing funding and restricting scientists from communicating their findings (from tax-funded research!) with the public is absurd and cannot be allowed to stand as policy.
They add (bold mine):
Who can participate:
“Anyone who believes in empirical science. That’s it. That’s the only requirement. We will both have a diversity committee and a diverse steering committee that represents people of many backgrounds and identities. Science is done by POC, women, immigrants, LGBTQ, indigenous people, people of all beliefs and non-belief. We hope that this diversity is reflected in both the leadership of the march and the march itself.”
Dr. Spencer commented:
It is ironic that they emphasize “empirical science”, since that’s what argues against global warming being a problem. It’s the “theoretical science” they have to invoke to scare people.
But the comment by Dr. Spencer that motivates this post is this one:
Since *everyone* is invited to a “scientists march”, I’m reminded of the time Anthony Watts had his dog join the Union of Concerned Scientists. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/07/friday-funny-the-newest-member-of-the-union-of-concerned-scientists/
adding:
Kenji might need a white lab coat though.
It seemed like a good idea at the time…and people raised about $1100 towards it. I wrote then:
To do this, Kenji and I will need to fly from California to Washington DC. I’ll fly coach, probably Kenji will fly doggie carrier under the seat, which Southwest airlines allows for a $100 fee each way. Also, he’ll need to get a health certificate from the vet to fly. We’ll need to get a dog-friendly hotel for a couple of nights at a minimum, transportation to/from the hotel/event and I’ll need to make a sign to carry, get a custom white lab coatfor Kenji, plus do some training with Kenji to get him acclimated to large crowds. Since he is so small, and could easily be stepped on, or kicked on purpose, I’ll likely get a chest carrier for small dogs like this one.
We’ll have a two-sided sign, one that shows support for science, and on the reverse, a picture of the worst climate monitoring station ever found by the surfacestations project at the University of Arizona with the question “If you measure climate in a parking lot, is it still science?”
Help Kenji go!
Estimated costs by the time this is all done is about $2000-2500. Since Kenji is still waitng for the #BigOil check, or a grant from the #KochBrothers and has no funds of his own, he’s asking WUWT readers to kick in some pocket change ($10-25 or set your own level) to help get there and “March for Science” (whenever that is they haven’t got the date set yet).
Of course, we’ll have pictures, commentary, and probably some hilarious reactions by people to this.
And most importantly, I wrote:
Also, if we don’t get enough donations to make it happen, they will be refunded. Thanks, Anthony
I made it work on the $1100 raised, using a frequent flyer pass I have, but then things started to get weird, and the March for Science has descended into a farce. It was pretty bad when they didn’t even want Bill Nye because his skin color was wrong:
The March for Science, scheduled for April 22, was planning to have Bill Nye, the Science Guy, function as the event’s first honorary co-chair, but then made a startling discovery.
Nye is white.
That did it; complaints mounted that the event was not featuring people of color, and voila! As Buzzfeed reports, “Mona Hanna-Attisha, the pediatrician who first exposed dangerous lead poisoning among the mostly poor black kids in Flint, Michigan, and Lydia Villa-Komaroff, a molecular biologist famous for helping to figure out how to get bacteria to make insulin,” were added to the list.
Forget the fact that Nye isn’t even a scientist; Stephani Page, a biophysicist at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill who was invited to the march’s board after she questioned its commitment to diversity, fulminated, “I love Bill Nye. But I do feel comfortable saying to you what I said to the steering committee: He is a white male, and in that way he does represent the status quo of science, of what it is to be a scientist.” Page added that adding the two women “was an opportunity to put up a picture of science that did not just fit the white male image.”
The march’s lead organizer, Jonathan Berman, admitted, “We did talk internally about the optics of having the first person to be announced be only a white man.”
Then we started seeing other things that were disturbing, Via William Briggs:
Because it seems organizers believe scientific results are less important than who is producing them. Diversity trumps science.
Proof? Buzzfeed reports that, so far, the March for Science has already gone through “four diversity statements.” So the Twitter account @ScienceMarchDC tweeted (and later deleted) “colonization, racism, immigration, native rights, sexism, ableism, queer-, trans-, intersex-phobia, & econ justice are scientific issues.” The tweet also pictured a black power fist and rainbow flag icons.
Of course, science per se is silent on all these matters. But that’s because natural science alone is mute on every moral and ethical question put to it. Including the question whether to deign to include a white man holding a science baton.
“I love Bill Nye,” said Stephani Page, a biophysicist at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, who created the Twitter hashtag #BlackAndSTEM. Page was asked to join the march’s board in February after she tweeted criticism of its approach to diversity. “But I do feel comfortable saying to you what I said to the steering committee: He is a white male, and in that way he does represent the status quo of science, of what it is to be a scientist.”
And being a scientist is not about race and sex. It’s about intelligence, talent, interest, drive, money, and luck. Much the same as what success in most fields require.
The March organizers say nothing about this. They want us to know what they really stand for (emphasis original):
Inclusion, diversity, equity, and accessibility are integral to this mission and to our overall goals and principles. People have rightly pointed out that some of our own public communications, including social media posts, have not affirmed this stance. …We are actively partnering with and seeking advice from organizations and individuals with expertise in this area. We cannot ignore issues of racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism, xenophobia, or any other form of discrimination in the discussion and implementation of science. Nor can we ignore the ways in which science has been misused to harm marginalized communities. The lack of inclusivity and diversity in STEM thwarts scientific advancements not only by limiting who conducts the research, but also by influencing what topics are studied, who participates in the research, and who will benefit from or be harmed by it.
Sound like left wing politics to you, and not science? That was the effect they were going for. Organizers insist, “It was a mistake to ever imply that the March for Science is apolitical — while this march is explicitly non-partisan, it is political” (the original statement was in bold type).
And this tweet, put it over the top for me:
2-minute video shows how easy it is to make a sign to carry at the Oshkosh #ScienceMarch https://t.co/agKSqGSXtz pic.twitter.com/1ZI79T6q5M
— Oshkosh MarchForSci (@OshMarchforSci) April 11, 2017
Umm, yeah, it’s about your employment contract, science for sure. Not.
Basically, what started out as a march put together by some people concerned about the Trump administration changes to the bureaucracy, has descended into a free-for-all encompassing just about every social issue there is. For example, this “Union of Concerned Scientists” wonk:
Pretty excited for these signs to make a debut at the #ScienceMarch #marchforscience. pic.twitter.com/5tYCRGEOdR
— Eleanor Fort (@RidewithEleanor) April 21, 2017
Some people have pulled out already. With junk like this Tweet from the UCS organizers, it’s easy to see why. I predict this will descend further into social anarchy, and some Marches will have some violence break out. I don’t want to be anywhere near that if it happens, but more importantly, any message Dr. Roy Spencer and I had intended to convey in a humorous way, will get drowned in a cacophony of social justice garbage that has nothing at all to do with science.
Organizers promised that hundreds of thousands would participate in an April 22 March for Science planned for hundreds of cities worldwide and an April 29 People’s Climate March in Washington, DC.
These events have no more to do with science or climate change than do UN programs or the Paris climate treaty. Their own leaders make that perfectly clear.
A climate website asserts that marchers intend to mark President Trump’s 100th day in office “with a massive demonstration that shows our resistance is not going to wane.” They intend to “block Trump’s entire fossil fuel agenda,” with Berkeley-style tantrums and riots, most likely.
A science march website says this is “explicitly a political movement, aimed at holding leaders in science and politics accountable” for trying to “skew, ignore, misuse or interfere with science.”
That pious language really means they intend to allow no deviation from climate cataclysm doctrines.
Even left-leaning CNN is starting to question it.
So, while it seemed like a fun idea for Kenji and I to attend and to mock it from a science perspective, I fear that given it’s turned into an ugly political/social farce, it will turn ugly for us. I’m not going, Kenji isn’t going, and anybody who contributed towards travel is due a refund if [they] want it.
Some people mentioned in comments on the original thread not to worry about it if we didn’t go, but that doesn’t speak for everyone, so drop me a note in comments if you’d like a refund for your contribution and I’ll gladly do it, otherwise, I’ll put it towards other things to support WUWT.
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Actually it’s a Natural Climate Change Denier’s March. LOL!
How does the quote go about history repeating first as tragedy, then as farce.
The warmista have fully descended into farce.
A good replacement for Barnum & Bailey–the circus is in town! Complete with sideshow freaks.
I’m only down to the third comment, and already vote this one best comment of the day! I went to our local (Norfolk, VA) thing this morning for the entertainment value. Maybe two to three hundred people (including future brainwashed kids). Took pictures of some signs, then left.
Wait!What? Norfolk is going to be under water within twenty years was it? And only a few hundred turned out? Don’t the local people want to save their city?
Where I live (on the bay about 40 miles north of Norfolk) we have subsidence due to a still-infilling asteroid crater from millions of years ago coupled with isostatic rebound and some localized subsidence and re-arrangement by Mother Nature of watercourses and marshlands. I’m hoping to have sailboat depth at my dock within a few years. No protest from me.
Evidently the March For Science organizers realized that there wouldn’t be too many participants unless they opened up the march to a coalition of all the left-wing social causes to pad their ranks.
“How does the quote go about history repeating first as tragedy, then as farce.”…..
“”The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and
in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a
report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical
change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far
north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very
warm.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while
vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far
north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will
rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.”””
November 2, 1922,
The Washington Post
…………..94 years ago.
I’ve seen that before, thanks for the reminder. 🙂
The Washington Post is still running the same story, every year for 94 years. Saves on the cost of reporters.
For the left, history starts every day at breakfast
As to violence, lots of people have started to notice that those who scream the loudest about tolerance are also the most violent towards anyone who disagrees with them.
It’s hypocrisy all the way down.
Unfortunately in their ‘minds’ they see people who disagree with them as being intolerant in the first place. So if they burn and riot they are a social warriors on the right and just side. They do not and will not see the hypocrisy.
It is a free society with personal rights and freedoms. We are Liberals, you will Assimilate. Resistance is Futile.
Only the first Pi cubed layers. After that it’s turtles.
I tell everyone I know that the prophets of tolerance are the most intolerant people of all.
Antifa wants combat training and firearms after losing the ‘Battle for Berkeley’
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/04/21/antifa-wants-combat-training-and-firearms-after-losing-the-battle-for-berkely/?utm_content=buffer02b93&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
After this march, I think we can dub the participants AntiSci.
Deborah Beatty:
Post march, one could dub some of the participants pseudoscientists, as you suggest. Pre-march one could do the same. A decade ago, Vincent Gray alerted climatologists to this reality in the paper that he titled “Spinning the Climate.” Gray reported having informed IPCC management that the IPCC’s climate models were not truly cross validated though the IPCC was implying them to have been cross validated by the wording of its assessment reports. In tacit admission of Gray’s indictment, the IPCC changed the term “validated” to the term “evaluated” in subsequently published assessment reports. Possibly because “evaluated” sounded like “validated” skeptics failed to grasp that there was a scientifically crucial difference between a “validated” model and an “evaluated” model. This is that an “evaluated” model is pseudoscientific and a “validated” models is not necessarily so.
Intolerants for tolerance
… sounds about right. I won’t bother making a sign.
Who stole my “h” ??
…. and my “f”. Time for a new keyboard.
Intolerants for tolerance
===========
screwing for virginity
fighting for peace
Violence in the cause of tolerance is a virtue. If you don’t believe, I have this hammer to convince you.
Good decision. When your opponent is self-destructing, the best thing to do is not get in his way.
Well done, Anthony. You are wise.
Janice, you are posessed of a large share of wisdom yourself.
Here is another blatant example of the political nature of the “March for “Science”:
“Unionized scientists march in protest of attacks on facts”
http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Unionized-scientists-march-in-protest-of-attacks-11066632.php
Ionized scientists don’t march?
Nice!
No, they repel each other too much.
Shouldn’t that be Un-ionised Scientists?
LOL
Please keep my donation toward a real climate conference. Dale Mullen
Me too.
They should have called it “Scientists Marching for Politicians”.
(Definately safer to keep Kenji home.)
No, they should have punctuated it a different way, … like this:
Scientists ? … Marching ?!
“Climate science” and especially the IPCC has been politics all the way down for a long time, if not forever.
Pulling out is a prudent decision.
The pro-science aspect was really an anti-Trump protest, thinly veiled. Of course all the Social Justice stuff has been layered on top.
But the anti-Trump faction will still be present. That means the “antifa” thugs and rioters will be there as well as pro-Trump supporters. There will be running street fights.
It could be worse. In Venezuela they are too hungry to protest.
http://images4-e.ravelrycache.com/uploads/jewlgirl/418136253/pussyhat__1__small2.jpg
Very thermally inefficient those hats, increased surface area, convective heat loss zones, excesive use of material and pink dye is expensive with increased soaking times. Should of had an engineer on the design board. /sarc
Not really. They are keeping the horns warm.
Stay in California Kenji and Anthony! Use the money for WUWT and perhaps a good barbecue for the WUWT team.
All of those pink super absorbent bulky hats, without engineered drip points would be mighty sad to see.
Sounds like the whole march has lost it’s purpose, and fuzzed into door mats.
A very mean looking vaghat. One of the shock troops for the march?
It’s either that P-Hat or a Hajib for the wimmen…
Oh, come one. They are cute kitty hats. They are made for being cute and nothing else. It’s only idiots who ascribe political commentary to people who want to look like anime characters.
No need to attend & mock – they are doing a fine job of mocking themselves & destroying their own credibility.
IF I were on their side, the phrase ” We have met the enemy & it is us ” would come to mind.
We are winning this battle without firing a shot.
Don’t take Kenji. The brown shirts will be out in force like in Berkeley and other DC events.
They aren’t brown shirts in Berkeley. They’re wearing black and balaclavas…
Anthony, I did not support the trip so instead made a donation to the http://www.surfacestations.org project.
I’d like to see an update on that at some point, unless I missed it?
’empirical’
In order to have ’empirical’ evidence that CO2 causes ‘global warming’, it would be necessary to observe another identical ‘planet’ with say…200ppm CO2 and ‘compare’ their respective temperatures.
Because that’s what ’empirical’ means.
Correlation is not the same as causation.
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
Disagree all you like Forrest.
The dictionary definition ’empirical’ is quite clear. It has its origins in medicine when Doctors could compare the outcomes of different patients. With Global Warming there is no other system with which to make a comparison.
Charles- not sure where you are getting your narrow definition of empiricle:
“The central theme in scientific method is that all evidence must be empirical which means it is based on evidence. In scientific method the word “empirical” refers to the use of working hypothesis that can be tested using observation and experiment. Empirical data is produced by experiment and observation.
Empirical Research – Based on the Scientific Method – Explorable.com
https://explorable.com/empirical-research
Feedback
Oxford English Dictionary?
“based on, or guided by the results of observation and experiment only”.
Why don’t you give a brief outline of the ‘experiment’ that was used establish CO2 Global Warming?
Specifically describe the ‘control’ against which observations about the Earth’s Climate can be compared?
Hint: you won’t…because there isn’t one.
A scientific control is an experiment or observation designed to minimize the effects of variables other than the independent variable. This increases the reliability of the results, often through a comparison between control measurements and the other measurements.
Global Warming remains a ‘conjecture’.
Which of you is supporting the march? Also, just how tall are the weeds?
About your claim. It isn’t that Doctors could compare patients. It was Doctors learning from direct experience.
From Merriam-Webster
You are right, there is not a “control Earth” where CO2’s emissions are not from mankind.
There is a method to empirically test Earth’s CO2 sensitivity.
Only the method requires that scientists determine exactly CO2’s contribution in all conditions.
Sans water vapor
Sans methane
Sans ozone
Form Earth’s minimum temperature to Earth’s maximum temperature.
Exactly what hours during every day of the year is CO2 trapping or delaying energy loss to space.
This must be determined for all latitudes.
But first, that CO2 contribution must be precisely determined at one latitude, one solar day, one locations. A determination so solid that based on CO2 ppm ratios, temperatures can be accurately predicted for following days, weeks, years..
ATheoK:
A physician is capable of constructing a predictive theory because he has something that a global warming climatologist lacks. Unlike the physician, the climatologist lacks a statistical population. There is no logical way in which a predictive theory can be constructed absent a statistical population.
It is possible for the global warming climatologists to get together and to identify the statistical population. They don’t do this, apparently, because they don’t know that is necessary for them to do so. Many of them confuse a global temperature time series with a statistical population but they are not the same concept.
Charles, not only have the others proven you wrong, because there is no accepted definition that matches yours, but no two patients are identical (including identical twins) so its impossible to “observe and compare two identical patients”.
Aphan:
Charles appears to be confusing “typical examples” aka “exemplars” with sampling units. Scientific research has to be conducted in sampling units as exemplars lack physical existence.
Pure sophistry.
Strawman argument and utter hogwash.
Statistics is not needed, and indeed has been much abused by climate scammers. Climate goons have misused statistics systemically. A math science that originated dealing with populations and demographics is serially abused by climastrologists when searching for the ideal, for them, data selections to reach their confirmation bias preferred results.
The climatologist is working with molecules of CO2 and can use as large a population as they desire. The rest of the atmosphere must be constrained to exact mixes.
Except current climastrologist approach is to lump everything together and then claim physic theory’s largest value at maximum forcing.
The experimental approach must dial back again to discrete CO2 molecules that can be tracked and measured, under controlled atmospheric conditions.
Otherwise the whole CO2 theory as used by alarmists is all rhetoric without reality.
“climatrologist” Love it! Shamelessly going to steal that one!!!!!
ATheoK
Actually it is the Earth rather than a CO2 molecule that would be the sampling unit were climatologists to identify the statistical population of their study of global warming.. This is obvious from the fact that it is the Earth that has the global temperature as one of its features.
Climatologists would have to identify the sampling frame of their study of the global warming phenomenon.. This would be a partition of the time line.Traditionally each element of the frame.of a climatological study has a duration of three decades but were this the duration for a study of the global warming phenomenon the count of the sampling units in the interval between the year 1850 and today would be between 5 and 6. This would be too few for the purpose of supporting federal control over Earth’s climate by a factor of at least 30..
Again, sophistry based on false strawmen.
Earth can not be a sampling unit until one is able to identify and control absolutely all factors and variables besides CO2.
CO2 has been identified as the mystical magical molecule controlling huge amounts of energy.
So the actions, absorptions, emissions of individual molecules must be identified, tracked and fully observed in all transitional energy states along with how CO2 transmits energy to atmospheric, surface and ocean molecules.
Time since 1850 is immaterial to the actual effects of CO2. According to everyone, CO2 acts on existing molecules in real time.
Imagining, estimating, fantasizing, dreaming or finding CO2 revelations in missing butterflies gets thrown in the trash with the rest of the confirmation bias models.
ATheoK:
FYI:
As I define the term “sampling unit” it is a concrete object belonging to a set of concrete objects that has a common set of measurable independent and dependent variables. Under my definition of terms this set is an example of a “statistical population.” The residents of Chicago are an example of a statistical population. A resident of Chicago is an example of a sampling unit. One’s ability to “identify and control absolutely all factors and variables” besides CO2 is not required in order for a concrete object to be a “sampling unit” under my definition of the term hence Earth is a legitimate example of a sampling unit.
Enjoy “your fantasy”!
Everyone is entitled to fantasize anything they like. That does not make it science.
ATheoK:
Your response is illogical and inconsistent.
When you blaspheme against their fake religion they get very cross with you!
2hotel9
Thanks for the support!
Well, that is amusing.
Again you respond with strawman red herring diversion. While ignoring the fact that you are painting an impossible dream of using the Earth as a discrete unit for research.
You ignore the unknown variable infinitude of factors that fail the concept immediately.
So, go live your fantasy. It is all illusion.
ATheoK:
What you mean by “the unknown variable infinitude of factors that fail the concept immediately” escapes me. Please explain.
ATheorK:
You state that: “again you respond with strawman red herring diversion. While ignoring the fact that you are painting an impossible dream of using the Earth as a discrete unit for research. You ignore the unknown variable infinitude of factors that fail the concept immediately.So live your fantasy.. It is all illusion..
Please explain.
ATheoK:
Please submit a proof of your assertion that my assertion of the non-existence of the statistical population underlying the model is “sophistry based on false strawmen.” Otherwise, please capitulate.
Why!?
It is your fantasy. Earth as a discrete unit suitable for control, experiment, null, pseudo modeling, lost in the clouds.
“You ignore the unknown variable infinitude of factors”
Oh?
Have you then, already identified every immediate locale, local, regional, hemispheric, diurnal, solar cycle, current, cloud, water mass, etc. etc. variable that affects immediate, local, regional, hemispheric, etc etc climate?
Not only identified, but quantified and qualified every erg and joule of influence?
Anything less is false. So enjoy your dreams, we need not know any of your details.
TheoK:
The “strawman” is a figment of your imagination. The “impossible dream” is made possible through the conduct of a longitudinal study. The sampling frame of this study is a partition of the time line. Each element of this frame belongs to a partition of the time line.
For a frame which, like this one, is “perfect” the relation from frame to statistical population is one-to-one. Each sampling unit belonging to this population is the Earth plus its atmosphere.
Circa 1980, successfully cross validatedl mid- to long range weather forecasting models were constructed by Ron Christensen and his colleagues at the firm Entropy Limited through the use of statistical populations that were of this character. The sampling unit of each such model was one of the far western states of the United States. The method of construction of each model was information theoretically optimal pattern discovery.
As I stated earlier. Sophistry.
Technobabble and doubletalk without real intent. Sloppy distractions.
Enjoy your personal fantasy!
ATheoK
You’ve defamed me. That’s illegal. Good bye forever.
The ‘some people have pulled out’ link goes to Medscape and wants login or register.
That seemed odd, so I just closed that out.
There is a phrase that fits: No real scientist will be in this march.
I feel more and more as if I’m living in the world of Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”
Indeed!
Absolutely. It really is a prophetic vision of dystopia.
except that instead of running away to hide the “industrialists” have become robber baroms.
Sorry, barrons, not bar rooms
Me too, only there is no Galt’s Gulch to escape to.
I am considering making sign that states “real scientists are skeptics”.
Real scientists don’t march. They’re too busy gathering data.
I recall a student protest I covered some years ago, around 1997, ’98, ’99. It was supposed to be about the government’s decision to hike tuition rates (a legitimate gripe, since they were going up some 100 percent or so), but when I arrived I saw signs about every conceivable social issue. So I wrote about that, telling exactly what I saw, rather than what we we were supposed to be saying. The paper ran it, but ironically under “opinion” even though the entire piece was nothing but straightforward, unadulterated fact.
As I understand it, in journalism a fact is what the editor says it is.
Same old same old.
The Western world is becoming ruled by the minority, not the majority.
PC dictates anyone with a minority status can accuse any majority member of anything, with impunity. But a majority member can be arrested for accusing a minority member of anything.
Socialistic democracy is a strange world.
The reason Donald Trump was able to gain the nomination and win the presidency is that neither the Democrat party nor the establishment Republicans were representing the majority of the population.
Without quantitative knowledge of illegal votes cast by illegals… How do you KNOW that?? GK
The illegals and their friends voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. link The neglected and ignored people of the rust belt gave President Trump his victory. link
“PC dictates anyone with a minority status can accuse any majority member of anything, with impunity.”
This is also reflected by the fact that those espousing diversity do not like the “minorities” to speak for themselves. Think of Milo Yiannopoulos, for instance. Love him or hate him, he is a conservative gay person who is quite capable of putting across his own point of view. As such he represents a threat to the PC crowd because he has shown that you can be successful without any help from the “liberal” establishment.
Same with Kellyanne Conway, or Melania Trump, or Tomi Lahren or Anne Coulter. They are all women who are allegedly persecuted by men who need the support of the PC crowd – except they do not. So they are also a threat.
The same applies to people in less developed countries. Their plight is useful for lip service and virtue signalling but their lot must never be improved because that would pull the rug from under the feet of the self-righteous.
Dingdingding! We have a winner! They get especially angry when you publicly point out their hypocrisy.
The SJWs are quick to take offence on someone else’s behalf.
Free yoga classes at the University of Ottawa were cancelled because they were being taught by a white woman … so that was cultural appropriation. No Indians (from India) complained, just the SJWs. link
The thing that makes the SJWs look really grindingly stupid is that the yoga exercises that we normally do are derived from European exercises. link They do not derive from the Indian spiritual practice.
The SJWs are the authoritarian wing of the left. They tend to be stupider and more violent than average. link
Anthony, please use my contribution in whatever way helps. I second the previous poster’s request for an update on the surface stations project.
I’m glad to see that the high temperature will be at least 10F lower than normal.
Ah, yes, but that does not in any way invalidate the fact tgat the world is warming. Had it been warmer that normal, that would definitely have validated the fact that the world is warming, however. Warm is Climate, cold is weather. Keep up at the back!
This just in from the Climate Gurus ™ of East Anglia:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-weather-snow-sleet-frost-batter-britain-next-week-1618065
So that’s weather…
And that’s Climate.
Got it now?
Sickening dolts.
*average. Average is a point, normal is a range. It is normal for temperature to be something other than average.
Nice! GK
Indeed. A point largely not understood by the sheep who follow the CAGW doctrine.
Back about 1965, Dr. Herbert Landar was explaining to our class at Cal State LA that his collateral reading list was based on writing he thought was important, not writing with which he necessarily agreed. (What brought this up was apparently his inclusion of Benjamin Lee Whorf in the list.) His approximate words: …so if you can’t make sense of what you’re reading and it seems like so much nonsense, I beg of you, consider the possibility that it may be so much nonsense.
And now I read from the above link to the SF Chronicle :
Scientists have long held the view that with enough data and evidence, we will be able to convince skeptics with facts that climate change is real, that humans are responsible, and that immediate action must be taken. It is increasingly clear that we have not convinced skeptics.
Gentlemen of Baghdad by the Bay: Have you considered Dr. Landar’s possibility?
Us kids from the hills never took no linguistics classes.
Pa just said, listen to your uncle Andy and you will learn what BS is.
{Hi to Nancy, too.}
If the marchers adhered to their rhetoric, the real march would be by foot to DC to avoid the fossil fuel use.
Earth Day 2017 and the Anti-Scientific ‘March for Science’ E. Calvin Meisner
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PS Free & open scientific debate? Or is challenging the “consensus” now “hate speech and bigotry”?
Yes. This is because Climate Science ™ has become a religion, and they won’t tolerate anyone challenging their religion.
Unintentional irony, I think. How deluded they are.
More fine examples of progressives accusing opponents of doing the very things progressives do. And the progressive press covering another astroturf protest as if it were a “thing”. Would love it if this embarrassment finally leaves the left feeling embarrassed. Assuming, for a laugh, that the left was completely humiliated by today’s event, would the press tell us?
ableism?
err
ability is the english i would think?
like trodded instead of treading
shined instead of shone
what the hell is being taught as “english” in your schools?
or is my comment “upsetting to someone who cant spell ”
and therefore to be deleted as “nasty and rayciss”?
LoL
Oz,
The problem is that ability is invariably linked in the mind’s eye with being successful, therefore another word had to be found because being successful is not approved of.
Don’t forget that the vast majority of these “useful idiots” are losers.
“Ableism” raises the possibility of being physically able without regard to the mental ability which is mostly missing and is therefore acceptable.
SteveT
But Kenji must go to the DC ‘March for Science’! And Kenji is a mixed race dog at that! By the way, does he/she/it self identify as male, female, or other?
If he does not go, the march will be too Human-centric! Do you think that only you homo sapiens are important in science? (wait, … is that supposed to be “gay sapiens”?)
Whatever, we need plenty of animals at the march!
From what I can tell, there will be.
Plenty of the two legged variety.
Napoleon the pig, perhaps?
Kenji looks tougher than the above vaghat thug.
Animals have human rights too, you know.
Only the cute ones. ;|
You know, based on the attitudes of many on this post, you guys are not into science. Maybe you have your own march against science. It would fit you.
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I can agree with that or not, but then again why not if you can.
No need. There already is a march against science, and it’s occuring today.
Even tge mighty Nye has pointed out that the ‘science’ tgey are marching for is political.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/bill-nye-jane-goodall-whyimarch-and-global-climate-action-1.4075340/bill-nye-on-marching-for-science-science-is-political-1.4075432
What he actually means, although he may not realize it, is tgat what they are marching for is political. Actual science, on the other hand, is definitely not.
Therefore this is a march against science, because itbis politics masquerading as science.
QED
Thus, point proven.
But you are in interesting company. Ken Ham is not exactly for the March for Science either.
Really,
Ken Ham’s creationism is antiscientific. Same as the CAGW cult.
RS, you ssy
This is pure advpcacy. You make a claim, or indeed merely a claim that someone else is wrong, abd provide absolutely no argument to back it up.
This is pretty much what Climate Science ™ does in a nutshell. If you call that science, I’m definitely anti- that, yes.
I have to assume that you are, or believe you are, a Climate Scientist ™.
Right on! Also, that the “march for science” is actually a “march against science” is a truth that remains to be revealed to most Americans.
Based on your comment, you don’t have a clue what science is. Maybe get a clue first, then come back.
ReallySkeptical April 21, 2017 at 3:51 pm
Well since you seem to be posting on CAGW march I take it you are going one.
If so be careful. These marches are being hijacked by groups with their own agenda’s.
Take note people are getting tired of the Black shirt thugs who vandalize and assault people.
How the police are going to react is unknown. If they make their presents(pun) felt, you could wind up arrested or lumpy.
Also the Black shirts are unpredictable, they may attack you by accident or just for “yuks”.
So if you go, remember gas mask, helmet, knee and elbow pads. St Christopher metal.
michael
Tomorrow at 2pm. With the rest of the Biology/Chemistry/Geosicences/Physics Depts and our students. Very exciting. See you there.
Gas Masks? Right.
Thought St Christopher wasn’t a saint anymore. That change? Again?
As an actual scientist, my opinion is that science has nothing to do with attitude or marching and it should have nothing to do with politics. Unfortunately, science has been corrupted by leftists.
Reallyskept….typical brainwashed university-type. I see them come into our office looking for a job fresh out of college. I work in meteorology. Little by little I deprogram them.
Pure science is on nobody’s side, else it’s not pure science.
What’s the ‘global temperature’ (obnoxious metric) supposed to be and why?
What does science have to do with attitudes? You just gave the game away. You really can’t tell the difference. And that’s what the March for Science is really all about.