Where I get hate mail from an unhinged eco-warrior

People send me stuff, sometimes it’s irrational hate mail from snowflakes…like this one.

Per our WUWT policy on such things, anonymity is not guaranteed, though it probably a fake email address anyway. And I thought Tripp Funderburk was over the top!

Anonymity is not guaranteed on this blog. Posters that use a government or publicly funded IP address that assume false identities for the purpose of hiding their source of opinion while on the taxpayers dime get preferential treatment for full disclosure, ditto for people that make threats.

I’d say there’s a threat in this comment, wouldn’t you?

If you want to make me Target#1, well then you go right ahead. Though I doubt people like yourself, who hide behind obfuscated emails and handles, have any real capability beyond doing anything beyond email rants sent from their mom’s basement.

And the left wonders why nobody is taking them seriously anymore when it comes to global warming aka climate change.

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J Mac
April 16, 2017 12:50 pm

It is a real shame to be exposed to such virulent bigotry but this is the age we live in and we must face it ‘head-on’.

However, on this day, let not your hearts be troubled…
A joyous Easter and Passover to all!

Richard
April 16, 2017 12:52 pm

Don’t bother them with scientific principles, ethics, or methods because they have Big Science on their side.

markl
April 16, 2017 12:53 pm

I take exception to his rant. I am not fat. As well, someone needs to tell this person that fat shaming is a negative virtue signaling trait these days.

SMC
Reply to  markl
April 16, 2017 1:23 pm

You are fat until you have a dickeydo.

SMC
Reply to  markl
April 16, 2017 1:23 pm

You aren’t…

jmichna
Reply to  markl
April 16, 2017 2:23 pm

Fat? Meh… ‘Gravitationally challenged’ is what I am. And old. And white. More Libertarian than Conservative. And a Yooper, to boot!

MarkW
Reply to  jmichna
April 17, 2017 7:09 am

I’ve been told by liberals, that libertarians are the most conservative of all.

William J Kruse
April 16, 2017 12:57 pm

The “letter” is probably from some lone nut, but perhaps not. After all, if you take out the foul language, it’s not appreciably different from Michael Mann’s recent Congressional testimony–same bluster, invective, name-calling, appeals to authority and “all the data” (mountains and mountains of it!) and “all the science” without any empirical evidence. I would not be the least bit surprised, Anthony, if your myterious correspondent was Michael Mann himself.

April 16, 2017 1:02 pm

Pretty idiotic stuff. It’s people like this that shame us on the left. But it is crucial to realise there are personality disorders on all sides of the debate, and I get this sort of nonsense from anti-vaxxers, gun nuts and right wing extremists. Take comfort in the fact that these people don’t have any real beliefs, they are just looking for someone to project their anger and hate against. It could be anyone regardless of political or scientific stance.

Reply to  Gareth Phillips
April 16, 2017 3:21 pm

Yes we had an even more viscous and vitriolic attack on Anthony a few months ago by a climate skeptic angry that WUWT rejected his hypothesis of gravity being the total cause of atmospheric temperature gradient, the “cold object a can’t warm a hotter object” sky dragon kind of opinion. Troubled individuals with anger issues plus some delusions of grandeur and a sprinkling of narcissism, I guess.

The Badger
Reply to  ptolemy2
April 17, 2017 9:42 am

I quite like the -g/Cp lapse rate equation which I think is what you refer to with respect to gravity and temperature gradients. Is that the hypothesis in question? At first look it seems a reasonable hypothesis to test so I think we should be fair and apply he same testing, null hypothesis, etc to this as we ask CAGW proponents to do to theirs.

If you, or anyone else, has some links to this gravity hypothesis please let me know as I am doing research on it right now.f

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
April 16, 2017 5:54 pm

Correct Gareth, nuts are equal opportunity politically. I’m the only non left in my family (I’m in business for myself and in Canada our left has been quite bit further left than that appellation in the US). The family are a bright bunch to argue with. I have caused them to think a bit though, as it is my opinion, that the party they support is not the one they think it is these days even if it has the same name.
The same goes for the Democrats in the US, though. Under Olabama their constituency was in Euro-UN OFFSHORE NWO stuff., not US citizens who voted for them – elites yes, but not ordinary folks. The UNFCC/IPCC is not what a lot of folks think it is either. My family likes a-chicken-in every pot soshulism but this is no more. I trust (hope) your leftinesss is of the old fashion kind.

billk
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
April 21, 2017 3:15 pm

“… this sort of nonsense from anti-vaxxers, gun nuts, and right wing extremists … these people don’t have any real beliefs …”

Such statements are more palatable when seasoned with evidence, and with definitions: “Right wing” is ambiguous, and “gun nuts” is pure propaganda. Only “anti-vaxxer” has a generally accepted meaning.

2hotel9
Reply to  billk
April 21, 2017 6:10 pm

All the “gun nuts” I know are big believers in vaccinations, most of us having been across the water to 3rd World Sh*tholes.

Hotwater
April 16, 2017 1:03 pm

Yes am white (swiss by birth) and male, but i consider myself liberal and a keen conservationist who lives nature and the outdoors. I am a principle environmental engineer and i run a small no profit nursery growing native plants for revegetation projects , i restore lost wetlands, enhance degraded streams and improve water quality, i plant hundreds of trees a year. I own 1.1ha of land i have personnaly restored to native forest. Yet i am a luke warmer and my scepticism started when i met climate scientists at a metservice open day after asking them some basic questions – my bs alarm went off instantly!
His / her cognotive dissonance is so strong we can only possibly be fat racist white hicks with guns and pickups and not well educated people who care for the environment and humanity.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Hotwater
April 16, 2017 1:22 pm

I am white (swiss by birth) and male….

But, are you fat?

(“liberal” in Switzerland more than likely does not = “liberal” in the U.S., so only the fat part is missing…. lol)

🙂

(And — good for you to do all that fine land management.)

And anyway! What is wrong with FAT? Santa Claus was, er, I mean, IS fat! ….. and the AGWers all claim Santa is mighty concerned about “climate change,” being as it will melt him out of house and home…. lololool

Hotwater
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 2:00 pm

No i am slim (not that matters) and in my 30’s. I am liberal in my view of the world and i have lived in many places.

My view is provide habitat now and make species more resilient for whatever happens. There are far more pressing real issues to deal with now than some unknown future risk! Real conservation, am sicks off people who bang on about global warming but do nothing to deal with todays issues. They are not conservationists, they are anarchists in disguise

Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 2:55 pm

Hotwater,
Completely. Conservation of resources and economic development go hand in hand. In the poorest of countries is were we see the most environmental degradation and despotic governments.

The money wasted on chasing CO2 demons would be much better spent working real pollution and economic development problems in the 3rd world. Haiti is a prime example in the western hemisphere. Yet we see folks like the Clinton Criminal Enterprise ripping off the Haiti funds for their personal enrichment.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Hotwater
April 17, 2017 5:24 am

Are you a classical liberal, Hotwater, or one of those Marxist/Socialist Progressive Democrats that currently claim the term liberal as a cover?

bit chilly
Reply to  Hotwater
April 17, 2017 8:28 am

i like to see people like you on here hotwater. too often we see the “liberal” label bandied about when talking about people that are nothing of the sort. they are pseudo liberals at best,but generally authoritarians .

we have a political party in the uk named the liberal party. they are nothing of the sort. calling an apple an orange does not make it so.

April 16, 2017 1:11 pm

What we call “the left” or “modern liberals” or “progressives” are socialists. They will sometimes even self-identify as “cultural Marxists”. Classical Liberals were men like Thomas Jefferson and others. Too bad the socialists stole the word “liberal” and ruined it. See here for the beliefs of classical liberals: https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism

The progressives (modern liberals — whatever) are a foul bunch who are so convinced that they are “saving the world” that they think anything they do is justified by the goals they have. They think they have “high moral ground” even as they attack and beat people in the street.

It is this “the ends justify the means” thinking on the part of these foul wretches that leads me to caution everyone. They can snap and do very foul deeds — so remember to be careful.

bitchilly
Reply to  markstoval
April 17, 2017 8:29 am

well said mark.

April 16, 2017 1:17 pm

The letter or email is as coherent and rational as the CAGW science

powers2be
April 16, 2017 1:21 pm

She is picking sides to WW!!! like we use to divide up for sandlot sports. “Okay and I’ll take India. Come on India. Come stand over here next to me. Speaking of “deep psychological wounds” this woman (with such a vitriolic “men” fixation what else?) needs to be put on medication before she hurts herself and others.

Reply to  powers2be
April 16, 2017 2:45 pm

Xanax sales must be exploding across the US the mass TDS epidemic sweeping Progressives. Panic attacks in the climate rent-seeking institutes of academia and US govt climatists has gotta be off the freakin’ charts right now.

Simon
April 16, 2017 1:26 pm

“And the left wonders why nobody is taking them seriously anymore when it comes to global warming aka climate change.”
To be honest emails like this are not the domain of the “left” any more than they are the “right”. Climate scientists get this sort of rubbish all the time. Anyway whats with the left right thing anyway? Arn’t we here to talk about climate change and the causes and possible threats to life on the planet?

hunter
Reply to  Simon
April 17, 2017 4:28 am

No, I doubt if climate scientists get that sort of email all the time. In Australia a few years ago a group if climate scientists claimed to have been threatened but it turned out they were lying. Read the blog owner’s statement about topics to be discussed for more info. What do you mean by climate change?

Simon
Reply to  hunter
April 17, 2017 8:31 pm

Oh come on, it is well known there are nutters on both sides of the argument who write this nonsense all the time. Best to ignore it and stick to the science.

April 16, 2017 1:27 pm

The IP address comes up as:
http://i67.tinypic.com/2mhai5v.jpg

I note that Lincoln, Nebraska is home to UNL and the National Drought Mitigation Center.

http://drought.unl.edu/DroughtBasics.aspx

WUWT’s recent highlighting of the foolish and now debunked permadrought claims in the DPR of Kalifornia along with President Trump’s OMB chief vowing to end US Govt climate change funding, likely has this band of climate rent seekers fearing for their employment future. Thus AW garnered the attention of one of these rent-seekers.

SMC
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
April 16, 2017 1:41 pm

“…DPR of Kalifornia…”

I thought it was the PRC, Peoples Republic of California…

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
April 16, 2017 2:33 pm

I put Cal’s governance more into the despotic category like NK. Given the fact that Cal voters are likely to replace the soft socialism of Gov Moonbeam for the hard left radical fanaticism of Gavin Newsome. In the 2018 election, the residents of Cal will be slaves to the tax and spend degeneracy of ilooming nsolvancy.

SMC
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
April 16, 2017 2:47 pm

Ok… Well, I’ve been calling Chicago the Democratic Peoples Republic, I think they are slightly more left than California…

Guess it doesn’t really matter, Communism, Fascism and Marxism are just different flavors of socialism.

gnomish
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
April 16, 2017 2:59 pm

uh oh! cue obergruppenfeuhrer trotsky’s favorite stepson in
3….
2…
1…

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
April 17, 2017 4:12 am

Bill Illis April 16, 2017 at 11:57 am comment
“Highest temperature in Lincoln Nebraska was in 1934”
was an early subtle clue where the email came from.

Sheri
April 16, 2017 1:36 pm

So he plans on taking himself out as Target #1?

Curious George
April 16, 2017 1:37 pm

These people seem to share a limited vocabulary. It should be possible to train your spam filter on it.

Michael Damiani
April 16, 2017 1:41 pm

When u receive such trash, u know you are winning. Cheers and keep up the great work.

April 16, 2017 1:43 pm

That climate bedwetter should be reminded who is the Commander in Chief of the US military and the world’s largest most sophicated armed UAV owner-operator.

April 16, 2017 1:43 pm

Wow,what an ugly rant that was.

Not one bit of scientific evidence or facts are to be found in this odious tome,it reeks of leftist hatred,someone who would possibly murder if he thinks he can get enough support from his peers. This person hates the concept of self defense,hates anyone who isn’t a leftist and unable to mount a reasonable debate on anything. I put up with it in my own family,where I have to keep my mouth shut to keep the peace.

Everyday, I go outside into the weather,never feel endangered by the usual clouds,wind and rain at this time of the year. Yet people like him seems to think climate doom is around the corner,thus be nasty to anyone who has a sunny view of the weather. It seems that people like him are trained to be unhappy in general, since their leftist utopian nonsense never gets developed, to relieve the delusions they harbor in their dark souls.

I left the Democratic party about 25 years ago,never looked back,as their slide into the ugly leftist ideology has NEVER been palatable to me.

John Bell
Reply to  Sunsettommy
April 16, 2017 2:42 pm

Well said !

RiHo08
April 16, 2017 2:13 pm

The first paragraph sounds to me as it may have been written by a women, a women whom I remember from the old NewsVine blog site. Vitriol was her handle and it was always against white men. Something about this writing reminds me of a possibly African American women who forecast a browning of the American population and retribution for all the AA suffering then reigned upon the heads of the former white majority.

I guess there is no way to assess whether or not this person has come back to blogging and onto this site.

MarkW
Reply to  RiHo08
April 17, 2017 7:15 am

The problem is that they all sing from the same hymnbook, so after a time, all start to sound alike.

JEM
April 16, 2017 2:16 pm

They don’t like it up ’em.

Dan Auton
April 16, 2017 2:25 pm

There is a Harish ingh bais on LinkedIn but really doubt that it is the right person:

harish singh bais
manager civil at Indu Projects Limited
Indu Projects Limited
Raghogarh Area, India 12 12 connections
InMail

Dan Auton
Reply to  Dan Auton
April 16, 2017 2:27 pm

He does mention “Bangladeshi farmers” and India?

JustAnOldGuy
Reply to  Dan Auton
April 16, 2017 2:58 pm

Ummm…the name “Singh” if I recall means tiger and is most often associated with males of the Sikh faith. That’s truly very curious if this happens to be the writer of this threat. All the vitriol in the email is entirely against the principles of the Sikh faith. Of course that could very well be a false flag.

I really don’t think we need to invest any energy (solar, wind, or fossil fuel) in ferreting out this individual. That would be the equivalent of trying to identify the source of a floating hunk of solid waste in the intake stream of a major metropolitan sewage treatment plant. It’s best just to let it float on by and into oblivion.

Monna Manhas
Reply to  JustAnOldGuy
April 16, 2017 7:44 pm

Singh means “lion,” not “tiger,” and you’re right – it is a Sikh name. (My husband is Sikh by birth, though not by faith.)

gnomish
April 16, 2017 2:29 pm

steamin heap of delicious delirious triggeredness. it’s a bumper crop, this harvest season on climate derangement syndrome plantations everywhere! CO2, naturally.
and the author has produced a most excellent diagnostic relattsio of his highly elaborated, self consistent delusory metaphysics. he could serve as holotype for the class.
but an ipod is no threat and that would be his absolute defense against any accusation.

MarkW
Reply to  gnomish
April 17, 2017 7:17 am

I know a certain socialist on this site who gets his dander up every time someone makes the claim that AGW is connected with the left. I wonder if he’ll get equally upset over a belief that all skeptics are conservative.

gnomish
Reply to  MarkW
April 17, 2017 1:08 pm

happens with age, i suppose.
rhetorical incontinence calls for something thick and absorbent.

Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2017 4:32 am

“all skeptics are conservative.”

Well, I do believe he is the proof that not all are conservative.

Man Bearpig
April 16, 2017 2:37 pm

So, if right wing conservatives are skeptic and left wing socialists are believers then the op must accept that agw is a political argument and not scientific.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Man Bearpig
April 16, 2017 3:45 pm

+1 Man Bearpig

AGWer: Look! I have a real fairy inside this jar!

Science Realist: There is nothing inside that jar but a goose feather.

AGWer: {peering inside} Hm. You’re right. But, the Greencoat who gave it to me said so…. I paid him good money for it. You and I are just not credentialed enough to see it. {low, confidential tone} It’s very, very, good at disguising itself. {nod, nod}

SR: Over 30,000 of the “credentialed” affirm that there is only a goose feather inside that jar. Greencoats do all sorts of things to get other people’s money.

AGWer: Yes….. yes, they do…… But! They do good things with it!

SR: Those Greencoats do that sort of thing all the time. How could you be so naive?

AGWer: Well, it was a very honest-looking Greencoat and when I said I couldn’t see the fairy, she said 97% of all the scientists she showed it to saw it and I should just believe them. And I do.

SR: You mean, rather, that you are believing her. You haven’t asked 97% of all scientists about it yourself. I don’t trust her. Greencoats are KNOWN liars and, further, Greencoats are the main ones doing this “fairy in the jar” hustle.

AGW: Yeah, well…….. Hey! Why are you so down on Greencoats. This is a discussion about science!

Moral: When the subject being discussed has been shown to be a s c a m,
you start talking about the s c a m m e r s (and about the profile of their typical dupe).

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 3:48 pm

lol — well, well….. poor ol’ “AGWer” above gets a bit mixed up about the sex of the Greencoat fairy-pusher. That’s because she is a woman who looks a lot like a man….. a lot like someone whose face has appeared on the pages of WUWT before. So, perfectly understandable. And plausible! 🙂

Butch
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 4:04 pm

Yes dear Janice, BUT….does she / he know which bathroom to use ???

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 5:02 pm

Hey, “Butch.” 😉 Hope all is well with you.

Lol, yes, she heads to the Ladies Room, unless……. UNLESS THERE IS A MIRROR ON THE DOOR! !!!! aaaaa, then, she stands there, hopelessly confused, goes crazy, and starts writing a comment on her phone aimed at Anthony Watts. The End.

Butch
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 5:37 pm

R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O !!!

Reply to  Janice Moore
April 16, 2017 8:24 pm

Janice the 5.02 comment was funny and I finally after reading the comments ( and the rant of course) I had a bit of a sad laugh though. I’ll go back to the e-mail I send you. This guy ( girl) is seriously ill and dangerous. Could well be addicted.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
April 17, 2017 6:44 am

Re: Asybot at 8:24pm — Yes, I see your point. Good to bear that in mind. For the record: I am not a pen pal with Mr. Asybot; just very infrequent “Are you doing okay?” e mails. Yes, for my peace of mind vis a vis one particular, very dear, person, I needed to say that.

John Bell
April 16, 2017 2:40 pm

All the while that guy uses just as much fossil fuels as the rest of us, liberals are such hypocrites.

SMC
Reply to  John Bell
April 16, 2017 3:00 pm

But, but, it’s not hypocritical if it’s for a good cause, right? Right?
🙂

Arild
April 16, 2017 2:41 pm

Thanks Scorpion. I am again motivated to donate to this wonderful site. Funds have been flung. Happy Easter.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Arild
April 16, 2017 3:50 pm

+1 🙂

mountainape5
April 16, 2017 2:54 pm

That’s some good english there for a bangladeshi farmer. I get it the author of that comment hate white males.

SMC
Reply to  mountainape5
April 16, 2017 3:17 pm

Albus misandry is an accepted position of SJW’s.

Reply to  mountainape5
April 16, 2017 3:25 pm

Speaking of Bangladesh, Dr Motl recently commented on the ManBearPig being over there where he tried to convince them to stop using and expanding use of coal and oil.
It’s worth the read.
http://motls.blogspot.com/2017/04/manbearpig-lectured-by-third-world.html#more

Janice Moore
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
April 16, 2017 3:53 pm

I didn’t read what “the ManBearPig” said, but, I want to say that
I HIGHLY DOUBT that it was our “Man Bearpig”
who would put forth such a stupid argument.

Butch
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
April 16, 2017 4:05 pm

..It was the original Man Bear Pig !!

Eamon Butler
Reply to  mountainape5
April 16, 2017 5:53 pm

I think the reference to the Bangladeshi farmer, is a hypothetical fictional being as no actual person or persons resembling this description, is in existence outside the vivid imagination of the unfortunate child who wrote this. I say ”unfortunate” as they don’t seem to have the benefit of an education or the privilege of good parents. I’m not making excuses for them simply suggesting a possible reason for their failure.

M E Wood emberson.me @gmail.com.
Reply to  Eamon Butler
April 16, 2017 7:49 pm

I think so too, I think he is a child of Indian parents now living in Australia or New Zealand as the rhetoric is similar to that in these countries, and also because he doesn’t know the geography of Bangladesh which is on a delta therefore very close to sea level. Geography does not seem to be featured in State Schools
“Bangladesh, to the east of India on the Bay of Bengal, is a South Asian country marked by lush greenery and many waterways. Its Padma (Ganges), Meghna and Jamuna rivers create fertile plains, and travel by boat is common..”
He can look this up on his iPad if his mother will let him have it after all that foul language..which he has picked up at his Australian or New Zealand school. …bringing disgrace on a respectable family.

David Seagrott
April 16, 2017 2:56 pm

Wow, would be hard to find more insults, abuse, rubbish and downright hatred in one article . . .must be a total lefty, all the trademarks are there. Hey, he got me on two points, older and white, not fat, I think that is slung as standard abuse because there’s an awful lot of brains and experience in life there and the Marxists know that’s a hard barrier to crack so they resort to their usual “loving, caring, inclusive” themes and words. Here in Australia we are now so surrounded by these people you can hardly speak. The main political parties are extreme left (labor) and left (conservatives) and none of them know what they are doing, we will be using generators and candles soon in the name of climate change.
Dave of Reedy Creek, Queensland