Where I get hate mail from an unhinged eco-warrior

People send me stuff, sometimes it’s irrational hate mail from snowflakes…like this one.

Per our WUWT policy on such things, anonymity is not guaranteed, though it probably a fake email address anyway. And I thought Tripp Funderburk was over the top!

Anonymity is not guaranteed on this blog. Posters that use a government or publicly funded IP address that assume false identities for the purpose of hiding their source of opinion while on the taxpayers dime get preferential treatment for full disclosure, ditto for people that make threats.

I’d say there’s a threat in this comment, wouldn’t you?

If you want to make me Target#1, well then you go right ahead. Though I doubt people like yourself, who hide behind obfuscated emails and handles, have any real capability beyond doing anything beyond email rants sent from their mom’s basement.

And the left wonders why nobody is taking them seriously anymore when it comes to global warming aka climate change.


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As always, so sorry Anthony to read this kind of foolish vitriol, especially on Easter Day.

You’ve given it more attention that it deserves.

The rest of us know the truth, and we keep the faith.

Janice Moore

Felix. Good point. Your name brought to mind Felix Mendelssohn. And that brought to mind this:

“The Gift of Music” by Theocracy

Brought to you by one of the “old fat conservative white guys” who likes to hang out around this place.




To Scorpion,

You obviously struggle, given the verbal abilities you were born with, to express yourself.

Try music.

The melodies will give you wings to fly above creation
whenever you can’t find the words to say.

Better yet, try love.
It is a force far more powerful than hate.
Start with loving yourself.
Then, you will start to love truth — for truth will set you free.

With love from the One who as he hung dying on a cross said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”


Christ is RISEN!!! 🙂


He is risen indeed!

Janice Moore

BB: 🙂

You, Janice, strike me as a humanities type. How did you ever get to notice us, science-oriented guys? I istened to your musicale and enjoyed it. Can I say, noble thoughts not paid attention to by miscreants? Happy Easter even tough I am a Darwinist and all that that implies.

Janice Moore

Dear Mr. Arrak,

I’m glad you enjoyed the tune. Yes, not likely, but, worth a try….

You are correct (and I’m not surprised, for you WUWT science giants have demonstrated exceptional intelligence over the years). Three of my four majors were non-technical. According to the “interest inventory” test we high school seniors all took, I should have majored in one of the arts. I didn’t. I hated school and just wanted a degree that would enable me to make a decent living. LOL. I should have majored in an art!

I care deeply about freedom. That is why I am here. I enjoy the mental gymnastics (for me, given my lack of science ed.), but, I work to learn about CO2 science for one purpose only: to make sure the envirostalinists and enviroprofiteers are DEFEATED in their vile human CO2 schemes which cause widespread poverty and disease and generally put vice-grips on our pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.

I found WUWT via Mark Steyn’s site — he wrote about and linked to WUWT in early 2013.

After John F. Hultquist’s (and others’) warm welcome that April: I was hooked! 🙂

Thank you for taking the time (as so many fine, bright, engineers and scientists do here) to keep WUWT the high-level science forum and super-peer review opportunity it is!

Your admirer and ally for science truth,


P.S. Thank you for your kind Easter greetings! The atheist across the street roared around his lawn on his riding mower this morning and is at this moment blasting away with his pressure washer to tell the world what he thinks of the day — poor guy. (and I will be praying that you can, someday, even if still a “Darwinist,” at least not be one with ALL that implies … 🙂 ).

Monna Manhas

He is risen INDEED!!

Janice Moore

Monna! 🙂


Janice Moore April 16, 2017 at 1:09 pm

… The atheist across the street roared around his lawn on his riding mower this morning and is at this moment blasting away with his pressure washer to tell the world what he thinks of the day …

His antisocial behaviour will make his life more miserable and shorter. link Pray for him.

Truly He is risen.

Gunga Din

Amen, Janice.

And, Arno, God made things very easy for us. (What rescuer makes it hard for those they’re trying to save?)
Romans 10:9 doesn’t mention a belief for or against Darwin.
After accepting Romans 10:9, all our past, present, future sin died on the cross with Him and remained there when we were raised with Him.
Any “feeling” of separation from God” after that is “all in our heads”. That’s what the rest of the verses are about. Once one is “born again”, we still have the same “heads” we had before. What do we put in them? More importantly, what do we allow into our hearts.
There’s a day coming when “we’ll know even as we are known”.
We’ll know for sure that all of our “Why did I do that”, “Why did I think that”, What’s wrong with that”, “How could I have been so stupid” moments, truly are dead through no effort of our own.

And a Joyous Easter to you, too, from this agnostic…

We probably won’t see this one for a while, though, as he almost certainly will be sent back to SJW Skul. He left out “cis-sexual” and “Mormon” from his screed.

Brett Keane

Amen and Hallelluja to that, and thankyou Janice. Anthony, Best Wishes.




Happy Easter Janice and All. I’m sorry you have to encounter nut cases like Scorpion Anthony but those who endeavour to speak the truth always make enemies I’m afraid. Keep up the good work everyone; truth will out and evil be defeated in the end though it might take a long time.

Doug Hilliard

Thanks for the music Janice! Good stuff! More importantly, He is risen Indeed!!! Happy Easter!

John F. Hultquist

I see you mentioned my name – again.
I’ve inserted a link in an 8:37 pm reply.
Pretty flower for Easter.

WoW! You say embarrassing things! I am for freedom too. As it happened. I got separated from my folks during the war and was able to get to the West while my two brothers and parents got stuck under the Soviet regime. One of my brothers was shipped off to to a Gulag and did not get out until Stalin died. Things are better for them now and I visit them even though I live here. They sure can appreciate the freedom they gained when the Soviet Union died. When the war was over I inveigled myself a scholarship, went to college here, married, and settled down.Had a fairly decent science job with the Apollo Lunar Lander module at Grumman until Nixon got elected. He hated everything about JFK and ordered the last three LEMs cancelled because Kennedy had started the program. Turned out he still blamed vJFK for stealing the 1960 election by stuffing ballot boxes in Chicago. Grumman already had the personnel hired but they were told to dump them. As a result, Grumman layed off ten thousand people in January 1970, I among them. That’s when I started teaching science and pretty soon retired. What science I do now is simply my retirement hobby. But But doing science is learning, in a way a child learns about its environment by being immersed in it. You are likely to learn things you had no idea of and react to them at times. Which means innovation, among other things. There vis more of course butI don’t want to get technical. If you want my technical stuff, put my name into the Google Scholar. They busied themselves getting together my titles, all the way back to the fifties. All the best, Arno

Ed Zuiderwijk

Oh my ……

Janice Moore

Thank you, Mr. Arrak, for that thoughtful reply. No, no, not “embarrassing,” simply the wonderful truth. Just stand up straight and — smile. 🙂 “Wow,” is what describes your life. I love freedom; you deeply appreciate its worth. I’m so sorry about your parents and especially about your brother. That was horrible.

Losing that supercool job in 1970 was so disappointing for you. God had a different path. That was very hard to accept. Applied science lost a fine scientist, but, teaching gained an exceptionally knowledgeable teacher. I sure hope that many of your students have told you so.

I’m glad you keep on enjoying science as a “hobby.” Your list of articles is impressive. Your Arctic Warming is Not Greenhouse Warming looks TRULY robust, with keen insights based on observations and solid reasoning.

Such a pleasure to “talk” with you.

And I WILL be praying for you — Александр Солженицын came out of the Gulag a believer…. 🙂

God has not given up on you. He has been waiting and watching for a long time. The door is still open.

Your WUWT friend,


Excellent! I love this band and have been listening to them for years.


Janice: Thank you for your gifts of music and perspective today. One … ahem … note: In later post you refer to “vice grip”. As former “English minor”, I fear you under spell, in grip of all-too-common vice.


Beautiful music! Perhaps Matt is a literal descendant of Felix (or Gregor?)

Janice Moore

You are SO WELCOME, all of you kind people above who told me so! Yay!! My pleasure. 🙂

Ahem. Mr. Bill.

1) I’m glad you enjoyed the music.
2) 🙂 Never fear! As a former little girl whose dad gave her a [vise-grip] for Christmas one year (he gave me other stuff, too, lol) —

(I was picturing the use in the lower left drawing)

— I was (I think) okay, here.

Thank you for taking the time to help me out. 🙂

You will have many more opportunities — I have no doubt! (I make mistakes all the time)

[The mods are assuming he purchased a clamping pair of pliers that Christmas… 8<) .mod]


Thank you, Janice, for gracious reply. And thank Mod you no longer under spell.

Janice Moore

LOL. THANK YOU, MOD! (no, just the vise-grip, heh) Oh, wow. That was hilarious. I’m so sorry that billk will probably never see this: billk — YOU WERE RIGHT! I was completely blind to that “c” and focused on the tense (plural versus singular) of vise-grip. Glad I came back here! lololol sure hope I learn a lesson…. *blush*



Janice: Actually, when I have an episode of pedantepsy, I often stick around to wallow in my virtue. As an “English minor” (“yah muthah was an English teechah!”) I sometimes try to convince people to spell or use words properly. Perhaps it’s an inherited trait.

As for singular versus plural, I am less sensitive (number) and past being tense about how to present it.

Janice Moore

Oh, billk, SO glad you came back. 🙂

Thanks again.

Janice Moore

Hm. If you are a pedant-a-holic (smiling), billk, then, “Thanks again” will annoy you. Heh.

So! Thanking you for the first time (I overlooked saying thanks above — oops) for helping me spell!


IYou do appreciate my global warming job but warmists do not. You will not find any reference to it in any alarmist lexicon because it totally demolishes their view of the Arctic warming. Result is that those of their people who write about the Arctic still babble on about carbon dioxide and are wedded to the greenhouse theory of Arctic warming. This despite the fact that the warming proceeds twice as fast as their calculations permit and they simply don’t know why.. The article almost did not get written because I had already worked it out and was putting several pages into the “Arctic and Antarctic” section of the book. One of the things I predicted was that warm water carried into the Arctic Ocean was doing the warming. The book went to press and simultaneously a paper by Spielhagen et al. appeared in which they observed just such transfer of warm water I had predicted. They had taken an Arctic cruise and directly measured water temperature from the ship. This was too good for me not to use it but it was too late for the book. As a result. I opted for writing a journal article. That turned out to be a bigger job than I had expected because I had to fill in important background material. On top of that I exceeded the 6000 word limit the journal allowed and had to rewrite much of it. In the end I am glad I did because it ended up with much more useful information than I had initially planned. It has even attracted a fabulous readership — one or two people a year according Academia.edu!

Janice, why did you have to spell Solzhenitsin in Cyrillic? He is known by his Latin spelling evrywhere but in Russia. I did not say this before, but it so happens that he was incarcerated in the same Gulag as was my brother Henno.. Henno got to know him and says his conversations with Solzhenitsin were the one bright spot he had during this time there. Later, when it was all over and Estonia was free again, I visited them and tried to get more information. But he just did not want to talk about anything related to the Gulag, oeriod. And he recently passed away so nobody will know what was said then.

Gunga Din

I suspect that this hate mail was a response to one of his comments being deleted on a recent post. It was was deleted without explanation. The explanation, as I recall, was for language and attitude such as exhibited in this hate mail.
There was also an encouragement to “tone it down” and re-comment.
Seems he/she/it chose to send an email instead.
(But maybe my suspicion is wrong.)

Gunga Din

“It was was deleted without explanation.”
Should be:
“It wasn’t deleted without explanation.”

David Blackall

Yes, it is terrible, sorry Anthony from me too. But you are the moderator, so it becomes your publication too at this point. People can complain to a range of legal entities about offensive or abusive behavior in text or public contexts and I think they [we] should, to remind losers like this one how to behave online. Society must aim to strike a balance between two valued rights: the right to communicate freely and the right to live free from vilification. It beats me how, why, these nuts keep going, we are on the verge of extinction from nuclear war, between the USA and North Korea (and China), yet they rant and vent on about this catastrophic [no] rise in temperature.


Anthony, I am so very very distressed for you and I need to soothe my soul with a blast in my supercharged V8.

I’ll go soft on the pedal of course…


And go soft on the vodka, unless you’re Bloody Married to it.

Stephen Greene

I always use my real name. Try it Libs.


I did for awhile, but the libs are too vicious to give them such easy access to my family.


Seconded. SWATTING has been labeled as a new type of harassment and yet the left has done such for a very long time. Spreading lies and false accusations is a favorite tactic of the political left, and with the ease with which one’s identity can be stolen in the electronic age they have expanded their repertoire.

The key is to not be on social media. Which I am not. And I do not post personal information, so while some can find me, the ones that would seek to do me harm are not smart enough to figure out how.

Scorpion is another complete nut. The world is full of them.


All in all it sounds like the typical progressive/leftist ‘projection’.


He’s obviously an uneducated drop out…
…Inclusiveness courses are mandatory in liberal colleges these days
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Inclusiveness courses that teach students to riot, burn and damage anyone who is different from themselves and the “message”.

(I know you’re being sarcastic. I’m not.)



I want to strongly caution everyone on this thread, not to speculatively stereotype Harish, on account of his little, mouthy rant-booger, as just some sort of obnoxious, under-supervised, spoiled-brat, hive-abused, brain-washed, trophy-magnet, can’t-get-a-date, “front-row” dumb-kid, who is just out to prove he “can too” concoct a “zinger”, using just one of his two occupied hands, at the keyboard, despite his spastic-dork lack of multi-tasking skills, in order to impress his socially retarded, “Face Book” friends. That’s not us–we’re better than that.
Notice that ol’ Harish is quite the master-of-war, geo-political, “big-thinker” strategist: civil-war, Russkies and the Trumpers vs. the “fifth column” American left in cahoots with Japan, China, the EU, and India! Hmm…I wonder if Harish might–just “might” is all I’m sayin’–“get off” on these sort of day-dreamy, wanker-assist fantasies–and not in a way that his mummy would approve, I mean. For more, in the same vein, but less amusing, one might Google: “youtube larry grathwohl william ayers 60 minutes.”

andy in epsom

Sadly I think you are wrong. I think this is the perfect example of what is now being turned out by the universities especially in the UK. They are ex trade schools that have given themselves university status and fill the minds of their students with garbage. Where I work, we have a constant turn over of such people because somehow even basic common sense seems to have be either killed off or disabled. They have to sing from the same hymn sheet but their religion is blind observance to what they are instructed to follow. I is a classic example of culot behaviour.

Leo Smith

@andy in Epsom:

ITYM ‘Sans Culotte’ behaviour, Shirley.


With all that “inclusive” education, how comes a mind to be “without-clue-sieve”?

Janice Moore

Yes, Anthony, there was. Good for you to post that for all the world to see.


All “Scorpion” managed to do for his cause with that potty-mouth temper tantrum
was to blow him/herself up.



Anthony and the Science Realists: 1000

Scorpion and the Climate Clows: 0

(No. I did not read it. Just skimmed it. Not worth my time.)

Janice Moore

What, you ask, is a “clow?” It’s an “n”-less clown. lol (iow — oops)

Actually Janice, ‘clow’ does have a meaning


Can’t you pretend you meant to use it all along?



“n”-less clown……….good recovery!!!………..I give it a 10

Janice Moore

TonyB — lol. I’d like to. Someone with far better self-restraint than this motormouth (me) would have to use that metaphor ….. wouldn’t want to make a joke of myself! 🙂


So, is Scorpion’s effort the deposited sediment?

Jeffrey Mitchell

Probably a deposit from an “L”-less cow.


… who is totally clow-less.

Me too. Well said Anthony.

Pop Piasa

I would consider this “scorpion”‘s rant as an enigmatically ignorable fringe opinion from a very purposely ignorant perspective. Brainwashed and self-aggrandized badass is a fair description of this individual.

Janice, For the sake of Easter , forgive the guy, it might have been his only day off. ( Remember it might also have be the only day this month you guys don’t get rain . Chuckle)


You assume it has a job.


What I find fascinating is the belief that everyone who disagrees with the global warming religion is an old fat white male conservative.
The left, to the extent that it thinks at all, thinks only in stereotypes. It’s almost as if it’s impossible for them to imagine people as individuals. I guess that’s how they justify to themselves their desire to exterminate all who oppose them. To the leftists, those who oppose them aren’t really human.

PS: Another fascinating thing is it’s belief that only the US opposes it’s cult, and that all by itself, the US is forcing all other countries to abandon the cult as well.


Interesting is that many liberals are white men…and some of the most acerbic vile spewers they are, too.

The real reason they use stereotypes lime “old fat white male” purely the red herring argument. It doesn’t matter if they are right or wrong, it gets their opponent focused on off topic arguments.

Besides, the print was as small as his brain.

Ben Gunn

It is only croaking from the swamp.


You handled this just right, AW.
That fellow is truly unhinged…..
Over the rainbow.
He’s crazy.
Bars in the window.


Channeling Pink Floyd?



Top notch !


Wow, that sounds very much like an old troll, jadegold. I do believe I can dig out a link to a compendium of its biggest hits, with a rundown on exactly “who” it is. Hell, just google jadegold, it should be in the top 3 on results.

John Robertson

Probably should have just sent that one to trash.
Such a window into an empty head is unnecessary, we have the media to provide that point of view.
Special snowflakes abound.
However another threat of violence from the non-tool using segment of society, is always great for comedic relief.
I expect if this person is exposed to consequences, they will immediately claim;”I was only joking”, just like their heroes at Greenpeace.


The right is all fat white guys……who would have thought they would win an election….LOL

8 years is 2/3 rds of the people’s life time, and they thought they were always going to be right…because that’s what they were taught and all they know

liberal = bigots


Racist, ageist, sexist and fatist. I though the “liberal” left hated all those things.

Seems that the moral norms they espouse only apply to other people. HYPOCRITES.


Liberals just aren’t troubled by hypocrisy. It’s more of a way of life than an embarrassent.


“Racist, ageist, sexist and fatist. I though the “liberal” left hated all those things. ”

Nope, the only thing the Left cares about is POWER. Everything else is mere slurs they use against those standing in the way of their insatiable quest for POWER. Hence, the Left have sold out those who previously gave them POWER (gays, women, Jews, poor blacks, Christian hispanics) in favor of new fast-breeding groups who always want more government, no liberties, more handouts and are a route to give the Left more POWER.

Once you understand that then the Left are seen to be on a consistent course – because they only thing the Left truly cares about is POWER. And once they have POWER they need to change society to they get even more POWER, which is why they work to not only control every aspect of your life, they now work to control what you can say and think. Power (the ability to impose one’s will on others) is more addictive than heroin – which is why the Left will never be content, will never give up, and will use any devious and immoral means to get their fix.


A former member of the FEC gave a speech this week in which she claimed that the government needs to start regulating political speech.

Moa: +1


“Liberal” is a misnomer. The correct word is “Progressive”. True liberals hew to the ideas of the great J S Mill, to whom the behaviour and beliefs of today’s “liberals” would be anathema.


True, they call themselves progressives, but all their ideas are regressive and hurt the poor and powerless the most …


If I say illiberals, I betcha know who I’m talkin’ about ; )

In the US “LIberal” is used to describe guilt-stricken middle class, arts educated crypto-Marxists. Or, as I prefer to describe them: crypto- fascist neo-puritan fundamentalists.


Childish, stupid and ignorant. What is wrong with these people?

You answered your own question before you asked …


No actual ability to think or reason.


Unfortunately, that is not the case. The brilliant – genius – liberal people whom I count as friends are adamant in favor of Global Warming. I think it is a case of information bias…they never actually hear any other side to the argument.
We should not fall into the error of bad characterization of people who disagree with us, or we bring ourselves closer to the ranters we critique.

100% Jan.


Indeed, Jan. Another of our commentators posted an Aristotle quote a couple of days ago, “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”


You are quite right Jan for many cases. However, there are some severely nasty and/or stup1d people out there too and that is the kind of case we are dealing with on this thread. We have local friends and neighbours who have fully accepted the MM catastrophe scenario and also many who think like we do.

Old white not-fat Annie 😉


Sheri, no actual desire to think or reason.


I’m going to have to repectfully disagree. In my experience liberals / progressives / greens may be “well” educated, i.e. equipped with numerous college degrees, but they are as a group incapable of rational thought. Their mental activites are dominated by emotional responses to immediate stimulae in the form of headlines and sound bites. They are incapable of absorbing facts, and completely unwilling to examine and refute contrary opinions, but resort immediately to name calling, or change the subject to avoid having to admit that they have no facts to substantiate their position.

What’s more, every liberal I know is completely amoral and quite content to flaunt every law and convention of society while at the same time trying to use those same rules to constrain those they oppose.

We’re supposed to abhor generalizations, but this experience has been universal in my case. I have the pleasure of living and working in the northeastern U.S., a liberal bastion, and I have had no shortage of test cases. I eagerly await the day when I can have a debate with any self styled liberal that doesn’t degenerate almost instantly into name calling or fingerpointing.

M Courtney

“Childish” is right.
Who uses “Twits” as an insult?
It’s the vocabulary of Roald Dahl.

This is why it is best to ignore insults.
The offensive are never useful.

Leo Smith

Who uses “Twits” as an insult?

Young. British, middle class, probably from the south of England. Almost certainly from the home counties.

I.e. basically someone who owes their existence to the world built by ‘fat bigoted old white men’.

etc. etc.

Bob boder

Monty Python


This guys a jerk. He’s also not very sharp, if it wasn’t for skeptics speaking up we’d all believe the exact same thing.

Albert Brand

Let him comment on the snow coming this week in Europe. How’s that for climate change. Don’t be surprised if the media doesn’t cover it, Read facts, don’t be fooled by the 97% consensus.


Not necessary to waste bandwidth on these “morally superior” idiots.

Jimmy Haigh

The guy is insane.

Clyde Spencer


You may be closer to the truth than you realize. I would say that two things that characterize this individual is that he does not have a firm grasp on reality and thinks that his opinion is above reproach by those he dislikes. He insults the readers of this blog, apparently thinking that we will be so injured by his name calling that we will slink away. One of the commonly recognized characteristics of the mentally unbalanced is that they are convinced that they are sane and it is everyone else who is the problem. Tolerance isn’t in his vocabulary. He probably should be taken into custody for observation before he hurts himself or someone else.

R.S. Brown

You raise the knife,
you make the change.

You rearrange me ’till I’m sane.

Scorpion NEEDS to be in the March for Science. We need him there too.


As I like to say, only the completely insane are completely convinced of their own sanity.

And words like tolerance or rationality used to mean something, but on the tongues of Leftivists they become just another set of tribal identifiers. Instead of being based on your empathy and understanding, you’re tolerant because you express the “correct” opinions. Instead of being based on your dispassionate weighing of evidence, you’re rational because you’re in the “correct” tribe. You’re a free thinker because you think the “correct” thoughts.

The fatal contradiction is easy to see in a vacuum, but one way Leftivists get their crap past the radar in universities is by perpetuating a writ-large version of the “only sane man” delusion, which I sometimes call the siege fallacy. In their narratives, university campuses become brave little embattled islands of free thinking and tolerance in a raging ocean of bigotry, conformity, anti-science, and anti-intellectualism. “The barbarians are at the gates, we must stick together and fight the good fight for freedom!” is the implied rallying cry. And it’s a very appealing narrative, especially to the college-aged who still retain some of that adolescent rebelliousness. Few things stroke the ego like being able to think one is a valiant rebel hero fighting the evil empire. It can a lot of time and/or effort to shake that delusion and see that it was the equivalent of the Galactic Empire claiming to be the Rebel Alliance, and getting away with it.


The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And everyday the paperboy brings more


John F. Hultquist

My usual comment regarding such folks is that they need help.
I hope family and friends can see to this.
If I knew how to reach them, I would tell them so.

Our wild Yellow Bells bloomed for Easter even though we had a 30°F temp this morning.

Life is good.

Janice Moore

Thank you, John Hultquist, for sharing that pretty photo! (I saw your announcement of it above) So THAT is what those little yellow flowers are called! Glad, indeed, they made it out for Easter — brrr, what a year!! Rain since early October, and wintry blasts into mid-April. “Life’s good.” That brought up a happy memory and made me smile. HAPPY EASTER TO YOU!

Old, fat white guys!

Ageist, fattist, racist and misogynous, all in one!

(I know, there probably is not a word “fattist”)


I am so like triggered………


Well then, head off to your safe space for some cheese sandwiches, frolicking puppy videos and a massage. :))


Misandry. And mislipy. Probably. Mislipous person.

Monna Manhas

Maybe no such word as fattist, but this person is definitely a body shamer (shamist?).
And I think you mean misandrous (hating men), not misogynous (hating women). 🙂

John F. Hultquist

Us old not-fat white guys just can’t keep up with all the things we are supposed to hate.
The “just make things up crowd” needs to slow down.

John F. Hultquist April 16, 2017 at 8:46 pm
“Us old not-fat white guys just can’t keep up with all the things we are supposed to hate.
The “just make things up crowd” needs to slow down.”

Us old white guys, fat or otherwise,are not allowed to hate things. We are on this earth only to be objects of hatred for all the haters to focus there ire: otherwise they’d have to look to themselves….


Jeffrey Mitchell

Every word had a first use.

Gunga Din

To be Globalymannigorisized
Well, I’d give it. But…well, it something to with a planet such as ours, Uranus and a hockey stick.
I don’t want to end up in the Scorpius Constellation.

Gunga Din

They can adjust Wikipedia.
Maybe they can adjust all the dictionaries (the online ones) to include “fattist”?


actually “fattist” can be found in the urban directory. Has somethin to do wit prejudice against fat people.



You know skeptics are making real progress when the other side goes nuts or fires blanks. Good example of the former here. Good example of the latter over at Judiths.


cuz we’ll be using lasers, drones, and cyber warfare

LOL….last time I checked it was the old fat white guys using those things


I did 4 years in the USAF a few years back. I am a NY Republican, admittedly somewhat of a rarety, and I was very far to the Left of most of the people I served with, but far to the right of most of the people I know. Anyway, few enough of those warriors are in agreement with that commenter. The very reason is the disdain of the very conservative values that drew folks like my dad and I to serve in the first place. Put simply, all the toys in the world are useless without the resolve to use them


Heck, it was us old fat US guys that invented all of those things.


Griff finally snapped.


Nah, Griff is actually well mannered and polite and he always has content in his posts. We may not agree with him but he is always welcome here.

This Scorpio feller is just a jackass.


More passive-aggressive than well-mannered, really.


No. Griff may be out in left field but he is always respectful. There is hope for him.

No hope for Griff: he’s paid to post that nonsense.


Thank you Frazier, I do try…

I say again I am not paid, or a member of any political party or ‘green’ organisation or lobby group. Not a leftist by political persuasion.

I am a private citizen with an interest in climate science.

I try to read both sides of the argument – so why would I not read this blog/website, giving its ‘most read’ billing? 🙂

I must say I do get a lot of abuse – not least from people who say I get paid to write here.

Which is why I am semi anonymous – frankly I feel unable to comment under my full name and home address. That might also be why there are few other commenters of my viewpoint here – or not.


I don’t think any contributors here would come and attack you in your home Griff. That you could infer they might is indicative that you really don’t know us. We may be verbally enthusiastic but I have never known it to go beyond that from this side of the house.

The motivated activists, well that’s a horse of a different colour.

Griff is merely projecting what he would do. Or his allies actually do.


As respectful as Griff is his posts are rarely even remotely accurate .. just lots of wishful thinking of the great green dream.

David L.

This diatribe is logical brownian motion: it randomly weaves in and out, back and forth, between several topics. The conclusion of their tortured path is clear: use an ipad to launch some hellfire missiles Anthony’s way. clearly a snowflake that has spent too much time playing video games.


How can he have an Ipad if he is a “poor, brown skinned, Bangladeshi farmer about to lose his house to rising seas ” ??

Especially since, last I read, Bangladesh is about the only country in the world which is increasing its land mass. Silt is out-running sea-level rise.
He can’t even get his rant right!


The Himalayas are the tallest mountains on Earth, and a very wide and very deep stretch of very tall mountains as well. All being eroded very quickly as they are young and very steep, and get a huge amount of precipitation. And much of that mass wastage is delivered by various river systems that converge right smack in…you guessed it…Bangladesh!
And with the Indian subcontinent still driving itself underneath the Asian plate, I would not be a bit surprised to find out that Bangladesh is actually rising.
I checked but could not find a map showed tectonic uplift zones.
But I bet it is.
And certainly it is the site of some massive alluvial deposition.


I’m offended… I was excluded because he just assumed only white males would be capable of such ‘denial’ Wrong… Because I think scientific evidence trumps mathematical models. And last I heard, Bangladesh has water issues that go more to poor land use management and aquifer depletion than rising sea levels… I always feel if people wish to blame climate change for everything, then the real reason for environmental decline will never be addressed – and they will be so disappointed, even if we did trim CO2 emissions.


We have trimmed emissions by a huge amount, no thanks to the snowflakes.
It is his buddy China that is the really big elephant in the room now.
I would like to see his face on the day he finds these things out.

As he can have no expectation of privacy, this is his publicly available profile on Farcebook

[snip . . . who is that. What does he have to do with us? . . . mod]

Also Anthony, mods. May I please come out of moderation? I made some rash comments after provocation a long time back now. I made my apologies, more than once.

That was the gentleman who made the comment. At least his email is attached to that profile


For what it’s worth, I say, let him be risen ; )


How could you know who it is?
There are thousands with that name. A long list with that name in California alone.
Even if a name is one in a million, there are hundreds with it.
And this name is a lot more common than that.
Plus, as stated…it could be fake.
Who would use real name in such a post?


Such a brave digital entity hiding behind a presumed veil of anonymity. He would not last a day in the real world.

I just have to laugh at the sea level rise comment. Like the farmer is gonna get swamped tomorrow from a 20,000 year trend in sea levels.

Queue up Dr. Smith “Oh The Pain!”

Happy Easter to all the sane people!



Ooooo…. I like this hate mail. It is creative. The use of foul language is not over the top. It is well and cogently written. Overall, this is the best piece of hate mail I have seen posted on this site. Thank you Mr. Watts for sharing this. I’m glad the watermelons have finally found a lackey that can write an entertaining piece of garbage.

I grade this hate mail: B


dunno…I would have given it a D
Picking the word Scorpion says it all….starting with delusional


It’s hate mail. By definition it’s delusional and illogical and hypocritical and ugly. I think it is a much better effort than many of the other works Mr. Watts has posted for comment. It’s not an A effort, for sure, but for hate mail, it’s respectable.

Ron Williams

“Naw, I’ll take an iPad any day over an AR-15… as long as it is networked to a Predator armed with Hellfires” in reference to threatening Anthony as Target #1 for standing in the way of a stable, healthy planet.

Wow…I don’t think I have ever read any kind of violent threat like that posted by a WUWT comment here. And if it was, I would sure hope it would be edited out. Nobody is advocating violence against anyone here or to anyone on the other side of the fence. This is a battle of ideas and scientific truth, not some guerrilla war.

The worst I have done here on WUWT is advocate Congress to investigate Dr. Mann for a possible act of terrorism, in his statements about ‘burning cattle alive’ in his opening remarks to Congress a few weeks back on the scientific method, and generally shouting fire in a crowded theater about his unscientific pronouncements that would cost the planet trillions of dollar. That is fair ball.

Unfortunately, the left is showing its violent tendencies against anyone with whom they disagree on an almost daily basis. They betray the tolerance so often preached at others and project their own characteristics of violent extremism on those with whom they disagree. Hypocrisy to the max.


Even the sainted David Attenborough is reported to have said , at the time of Trump’s election , that he wished he had a gun in order to shoot Donald Trump.
There are times when the mask slips and you see the true face of the “ilberal ” elite .


This weekend a prominent black Democrat declared that Trump was not her president.
I seem to recall 8 years ago, these same people declaring that anyone who failed to respect Obama couldn’t possibly be a patriot.

What a nice -but typical- lefty- threatens people who he disagrees with with violence. He should be reported, then put into an insane asylum.

Clay Sanborn

Bibles… the poor guy forgot to mention that his version of us white guys also cling to our Bibles, not just our guns. The email does sound threatening, and it is clear this chap has lost the “debate”. But it is not too late for his redemption.

Johann Wundersamer

Talks about himself.


What? you think it was Obama? that was his favorite hobby

Timo Soren

It doesn’t appear to have the clues of diction and syntax that our dear peter gleick provided. But if enough people read this perhaps we will again discover the source.

And Happy Easter you all too .

Highest temperature in Lincoln Nebraska was in 1934.


vukcevic widerangebroadband

Probably a bad lead but an engineer from New Dehli has the name given in the yahoo address and he works for an energy company(BGR) that is working with super-critical generators.

The Badger

It is not just the Climate Debate that gets “results” like this. Pops up all the time in many different blogs and reddit subs which I frequent. Death threats to me via private messages are now in double digits. So far no phone calls or hate mail but many years ago I did have my house vandalised by “Animal Rights” group simply as a result of holding some shares in a particular company. Interestingly it has always been left wing groups that have resorted to this kind of behaviour.
Even in personal discussion with those of the left I find that although I stay polite they can (with the right topic) very quickly lapse into the “You are a shithead” “Fuck you” type of conversation. The only exception seems to be those who are over 55 years old where it seems possible to have a good-natured discussion even when we are clearly a long way apart. I suspect the change has been due to something in the educational system and/or a general decline in politeness and personal respect in society.
I keep records of all those acting aggressively and often advise them that I am doing so. It is of course quite easy to simply ignore them if it’s an online exchange. Only in one case, where there was a personal confrontation/threat, have I had to resort to legal action and they disappeared after that.
With respect to moderating on line blogs or communities (I do a few myself) my policy is generally simply to delete comment and perma-ban without any engagement as I have found if you converse with them at all they simply come back with another alias. With no oxygen for them in any particular community they will give up after 2 or 3 attempts max and (presumably) go somewhere else.


I knew one that changed identities four times trying to get back into the comments section. He was a truly persistent man.

The animal rights whackos are truly whackos.
I’ve had to get restraining orders due to a small group of them discovering my actual address after they hacked a no longer in existence hotmail acct,and somehow got into files on my since trashed desktop.
Which led to my house and several vehicles being vandalized by the crazies.
They came halfway across the country to do their harrassment too.
Truly scary people.

The Badger

Called “shadow banning” on reddit. A bit like the forwarding of unwanted telephone calls to an answerphone which BT is now offering in the UK using a database of thousands of numbers of scammers.

Mike Mangan

There’s that Liberal Tourette Syndrome again. Angry children, poorly raised and taught, completely unable to effectively communicate in the adult world.


Very good term for the behavior! I’ll remember that one.


This person must have really become unhinged the night Trump got elected.


Lasers, and iPads, and drones! Oh, my! 😀

a weee bit of projection.

keep posting these Anthony it is helpful to show the world the unhinged progressives.


Chris Nelli

Does that lunatic know that past progress and future progress for the next decades at least depend on fossil fuels?


Whenever I respond negatively to a livescience.com article pushing Anthropogenic Global Warming, The Sh it comes down upon my head! It’s Fascinating because, Socially I’m way left but the but the Greenie Weenies are thoroughly Brainwashed. Need more WUWT readers to monitor Live Science and respond whenever CAGW rears it ugly head.

The Badger

I’ll be on it tomorrow.

Johann Wundersamer

So kommt die Lüge in die Welt.

That’s how alternative ‘fake news’ are produced – there’s always someone to ‘believe in’.


That sounds like the German equivalent of “There’s a sucker born every minute.” link

Johann Wundersamer

That’s how the lie comes into the world.

please don’t let me be misunderstood.


I am being wary that the phrase might be an idiom or an aphorism where the full meaning is not given by a literal translation of the words.


By the end of the week on Saturday we could see the U.S. formally having formally ending funding for the UN FCCC & participation in the IPCC (by those funded by the US Federal Government and States) and withdraw from the Paris Agreement COP21 2015 due to the allowing of Palestinian membership by the UN FCCC in 2016!


Got his “two minute hate”done for the day


He seems nice.

But you know, when all you have is Stalinism, everybody looks like a Kulak.

I grew up around hippies. Despite their self-image conflict, this is not that unusual in terms of their behavior with regard to opposing ideas. We’re basically talking about a passive-aggressive tantrum that is trying to declare itself a philosophy (or worse, a civilization).

It’s also about not being able to be a hero unless your opponents are villains. If your politics are just alternative policy possibilities, you’re not *special*, you’re not a *hero*.

I’ll bet he also defines himself (frequently and loudly) as being against this behavior of his. Part of the illness.


“… plants and animals have suffered because of …”

Obviously the person is not a meat eater, but neither is a vegetarian, can’t stand the plants suffering.
So what is left? Ah, yes, the fungi, that person exists on an all-mushroom diet, hence the hallucinations.




Mushrooms can’t eat if plants don’t die. ;|

Patrick MJD



I think that name-calling ailment is call d the Climate Pronouncement Tourette Syndrome., CPTS. “Oh Lord, why did you put some jerks on this earth,” from the Bull Meechum in “Great Santini.”

…called… and …so many….


Ya know, all that these racist, stupid folks have to do is to perform a single study with the null hypothesis that the X% observed warming in the 20th century has been caused by natural means and reject it with a reasonable degree of significance. These folks neither understand science, the scientific method, or anything else. When such a study is forthcoming, I will give their case greater consideration. Till then, it is just Lysenkoism.

Jeffrey Mitchell

Oh, I don’t think they are stupid. They know what they are doing. They know how science works. I think they pretend to be scientists because it brings in the money with scare tactics. The politicians give them the money to further their global socialist causes. The funds are about to dry up in the U.S. The sooner the better.

The Badger

I have been swimming around in the CAGW swamp for about 3 years now and I think there are several different kinds of indigenous life forms. There are those who truly do believe Global Warming is settled science and the Earth is threatened, they often seem scared the end of the world is coming. There are those who know it is a “scam” but have to keep up the pretence because their career, friends, etc depend upon it. Also there are those who are very clever and highly qualified who go out of their way to promote CAGW and attack those who don’t believe, sometimes they are very very devious with the things they say, post, etc.and it seems that they also know quite clearly it is untrue but they have an end justifies the means philosophy. It’s quite useful to try to label your opponent into one of the groups. I quite like the latter group for a good discussion and have a couple of NASA scientists on my radar right now which I am slowly reeling in. Might be lucky and get one to trip up soon, even if not all the blog chat is recorded so it’s useful for the future anyway.


That’s why they have to redefine the NULL hypothesis to something meaningless.
Stokes and Moshpit have being trying to declare that the real NULL hypothesis is zero slope.
That is, a belief that without CO2, nothing would change. Therefore if they can show that something has changed, they have proven that CO2 did it.

Coeur de Lion

I do think that we should not spend too much time going on about this fellow. We have other things of importance to consider.


Why not? It’s kind’a fun to lambast folks like this. Got to take a break from being serious sometimes.


Never underestimate the value of comic relief.

One of the greatest weapons against tyrants is humor.


should have approved it and let us (w/o threats or curse words) tear xer up…

Janice Moore

old fat conservative white guys….

Hm. That would be guys like:

Sir Winston Churchill…. most of the WWII and Korean War veterans….. many of the Vietnam and Iraq War veterans…… some of your school teachers who tried so hard to help you ….. thousands of those guys who dragged themselves back in on the weekend to get your power back on ….. or who sat hunched over microscopes or keyboards or blueprints to make life better for everyone …… millions of those who worked day after day, year after year, decade after decade, at hard labor to pay taxes to fund roads and schools and the hospital you were born in……

and, for many of us, guys like that man who didn’t leave, who handed out money for movies he never went to see, who fixed our bike chain when it came off again, who we (and, perhaps, you, too, “Scorpion,”) called: “Dad.”


Monna Manhas

Hear, hear Janice!!

Janice Moore

Thanks, Monna! Much appreciated.


Nice one Janice, well said!


In fact, people like my father and my lovely husband and sons, thank God for them!

Janice Moore

Aw, thanks, Annie. And how nice it was to read that, that you have all those fine men in your life. Thanks for taking the time to comment, here. 🙂


First, I doubt that somebody who appears to be a Sikh is actually a “Bangladeshi Farmer who is about to lose his home to sea level rise” let alone actually cares about any such.
I would think that a “poor bangladeshi” would be more concerned at the concept that fossil fuel use should be discontinued, as being more immediate.


that’s right , 1.75% of the power supply is Hydro – the rest fossil.

Sea level problems in Bangladesh will not be solved by Solar Panels and Windmills. Etched into my memory is this one;


Note the consequences.

Anthony; this arsehole really wasn’t worth a post.

John in Oz

The link you provide also shows that the next 2 most deadly in terms of fatalities occurred in the 1800’s.

CO2 can also cause time travel /sarc


First there were tele-connections, now there are temporal connections.

Large Boot

Bangladeshi farmers use iPads, are educated in English, and care about “a stable and healthy planet”?

If they had iPads, they might be able to get the information about how their own activities (groundwater abstraction, dredging etc) are causing 83% of the sea level rise in their homeland.

Barbara Skolaut

” nobody is taking them seriously anymore”

“Anymore”? I didn’t take these clowns seriously in the first place.


Not taking them seriously is a mistake. The left starting has been resorting to violent protesting. So far, it has been relatively mild violence. But, if something isn’t done to curb the violence, it will get worse.


Some protestors are now being charged with “rioting”, which besides being totally appropriate, carries up to a 10 year prison term and a $25,000 fine. I also believe it’s a felony, which puts a real crimp in their rap sheet.

Jaakko Kateenkorva

Harish. “Nonviolence is a weapon of the strong.”- Mahatma Gandhi

Mike Maguire

Sometimes, the best way that one can discredit people that have this way of expressing their extreme views is…………….expose them in front of a large audience.

They are far more counterproductive to those that hold a similar position than an intelligent skeptic armed with authentic data that contradicts the position.

To be objective(which is tough to do if you are the target of numerous attacks that take on this tone) we are only amusing ourselves by drawing attention to a ludicrous comment from a loose cannon. Yes, it seems like since Trump got elected that this sort of hateful, inflammatory mentality has permeated one side. Many of them have just had their minds captured into a cult like belief system, that thinks anybody that believes differently than themselves is the extreme. Throw in the intense hatred and lack of accountability when using a computer on the internet and you have the recipe for a growing number of people that express themselves this way.

Since this site also shows all the information that emanates from well spoken authorities who have similar views(less extreme) as this character but are able to communicate those views more professionally/intelligently, I think it is not unfair to also include something like this because it represents a mentality that exists(we probably can’t imagine the hundreds of hate mails that Anthony gets)……….even if it might magnify the political divide.

In a psychological realm, when we are subjected to unfair treatment or attacked and only we know about it, there is often more frustration than if we share it with others who see it exactly like we do. I do my best, trying not to judge other people but my wife is often the recipient of numerous stories about
other people/situations that paint an unkind picture.

She almost always sees it exactly as I do. If that was not the case, I might not be sharing so often.

On a more pleasant note: Happy Easter Anthony and to all!

Bruce Cobb

It’s a fascinating (and somewhat scary) look into the mindset of a (most likely) young, college-brainwashed, pseudo-adult, with lots of pent-up rage towards “the establishment”, probably hates his father, who revels in his extreme leftist, enviro-loon, pro-Marxist ideology.