Over the top: the sad case of Tripp Funderburk & the Coral Restoration Foundation International

Trip Funderburk – from his public Facebook page

Sometimes, people just go “over the top”. That’s a nice way of putting what happened to Tripp Funderburk when he got too wrapped up in blind disagreement over a story we recently carried at WUWT by Jim Steele:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/05/falling-sea-level-the-critical-factor-in-2016-great-barrier-reef-bleaching/

Note the picture shows exposed coral, and some of the coral has bleached. Seems a no-brainer to me and many other people that coral can’t survive without being submerged, and as Jim Steele argues in his essay:

…Indonesian biologists had reported that a drop in sea level had bleached the upper 15 cm of the reefs before temperatures had reached NOAA’ Coral Reef Watch’s bleaching thresholds. As discussed by Ampou 2017, the drop in sea level had likely been experienced throughout much of the Coral Triangle including the northern Great Barrier Reef (GBR), and then accelerated during the El Niño. They speculated sea level fall also contributed to the bleaching during the 1998 El Niño.

Jim is drawing on findings of a peer reviewed publication, Ampou 2017, not his own opinion. See the abstract:

Coral mortality induced by the 2015–2016 El-Niño in Indonesia: the effect of rapid sea level fall

Abstract.

The 2015–2016 El-Niño and related ocean warming has generated significant coral bleaching and mortality worldwide. In Indonesia, the first signs of bleaching were reported in April 2016. However, this El Niño has impacted Indonesian coral reefs since 2015 through a different process than temperature-induced bleaching. In September 2015, altimetry data show that sea level was at its lowest in the past 12 years, affecting corals living in the bathymetric range exposed to unusual emersion. In March 2016, Bunaken Island (North Sulawesi) displayed up to 85 % mortality on reef flats dominated by Porites, Heliopora and Goniastrea corals with differential mortality rates by coral genus. Almost all reef flats showed evidence of mortality, representing 30 % of Bunaken reefs. For reef flat communities which were living at a depth close to the pre-El Niño mean low sea level, the fall induced substantial mortality likely by higher daily aerial exposure, at least during low tide periods. Altimetry data were used to map sea level fall throughout Indonesia, suggesting that similar mortality could be widespread for shallow reef flat communities, which accounts for a vast percent of the total extent of coral reefs in Indonesia. The altimetry historical records also suggest that such an event was not unique in the past two decades, therefore rapid sea level fall could be more important in the dynamics and resilience of Indonesian reef flat communities than previously thought. The clear link between mortality and sea level fall also calls for a refinement of the hierarchy of El Niño impacts and their consequences on coral reefs.

http://www.biogeosciences.net/14/817/2017/

He also cites supporting data that shows sea level falling at a GBR tide gauge:

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So, this all seems pretty straightforward, if you bother to read beyond the title. Apparently, one Tripp Funderburk, a newcomer to WUWT in our comments section, did not, and left this comment:

Tripp Funderburk

Jim does not post these pieces of fiction in science journals. He could never survive peer-review when his only real aim is to try and pretend that that climate change and global warming are not happening. Tough to get approval for propaganda that ignores the obvious reality of hot water caused by climate change and global warming causing coral bleaching and death.

Meh, we get angry non-readers all the time, I didn’t think much of it, but then he posted THIS comment:

Tripp Funderburk

April 11, 2017 at 8:30 pm

Jim Steele, the bird call expert, says: “widescale bleaching not worrisome.” That is one of the dumbest statements I have ever read. The fact that so many sheep believe in this fiction is sad. Bleached corals expel algae that provide 90% of their food. Bleached corals do not grow, they do not reproduce, they have lost their food source and energy. Starving not worrisome? The fact that the denialists are so hopeful that widescale bleaching is not glaring obvious example of the destruction of climate change that they prop up Jim Steele, a nature walk expert, is unseemly. He is a charlatan, and pretending that the Great Barrier Reef is not bleaching due to anything but climate change is poppycock.

I felt compelled to reply, so I added this note, since Tripp included links to his Facebook page in his comments (click his name), looking at his Facebook page was fair game:

[NOTE: according to his Facebook page (linked in his response name section) Tripp has an MBA from Duke University and is the “Director of Operations at Coral Restoration Foundation International”. Looking at that website’s staff directory, https://coralrestoration.org/about/meet-the-team/ his description reads:
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Tripp Funderburk
Policy Director

Tripp Funderburk is a PADI certified Divemaster and has received SSI Ecological Diver Recognition for Coral Restoration Theory and Methods, Coral Nursery Construction and Maintenance, and Coral Abundance and Health Assessment. Before joining Coral Restoration Foundation, Tripp worked in public policy in Washington, DC, including eight years as a legislative assistant to US Representative Bob Livingston. Tripp served as staff on both the House Appropriations and the House Administration Committees. Tripp also worked in government relations for The Washington Group and The Livingston Group where he represented Fortune 500 companies, trade associations, and non-profit organizations. Tripp received his M.B.A. from Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business and his undergraduate degree in economics from the University of Virginia.
===

So it seems Tripp is just an policy/politics/business management guy with an interest in diving that found a job after his patron, Rep Bob Livington, imploded and resigned after a series of adulterous affairs made him national news. Other than surroundign himself with people who on this coral foundation, he appears to have no scientific training, unlike Jim Steele, otherwise he would not have to resort to to ad hom attacks on Mr. Steele’s training, and no other substantial arguments. Given coral is his sole source of employment, this famous quote is applicable to Tripp

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” – Upton Sinclair, 1935

– Anthony Watts]

A mild admonishment, but apparently, Tripp upped his game, and his game was a might bit ugly as Jim Steele shared both with me privately via email…

Hi Anthony,
Thanks for pushing back on Trip Funderburk. He has been relentlessly stalking and denigrating me at WUWT and Climate etc. He  called my house again last night to verbally assault me.

…and with WUWT readers via comments:

Jim Steele

April 13, 2017 at 8:30 am

Trip is now calling my house, dropping F bombs and launching insulting rants.

I really like what Nedimyer and the Coral Restoration Foundation International are doing. Trip is a business major overseeing their operations. The tremendous loss of staghorn and other Acropora sp coral in the Caribbean due to disease and predation makes it difficult for those species to recover because they reproduce mostly by fragmentation. A complete loss of staghorn on a reef usually means that reef needs to be colonized from a fragment from another reef. Coral Restoration Foundation collects living staghorns breaks them up into many smaller pieces and grows them and then replants them.

It would be a shame if Trip’s low life behavior threatens the foundation’s good work. Perhaps a few emails or calls to the foundation would alert them to Trip’s detrimental behavior

(305) 453-7030 info@coralrestoration.org

Jim Steele
April 13, 2017 at 8:37 am

Trip dishonestly cherry-picks a few words from one sentence that said, “However bleaching without mortality is not a worrisome event no matter how extensive. Rates of mortality and recovery are more important indices of reef health.”

If bleaching persists then mortality will follow. If bleaching is temporary, then observation after observation reports recovery to pre-bleaching conditions and every thing Trip is worried about is no longer a problem. Not being a biologist such simple facts elude him.

This reminds me of climate activist and self-proclaimed journalist Anna Haynes, who so disagreed with me and others in Northern California, that she took to calling our homes, and in my case, showed up at my office to confront me. Dr. Judith Curry also had some ugly scuffles with Haynes.

Hopefully Tripp gets the message this time, that this sort of behavior is not acceptable, especially from somebody who is supposed to be a professional for an organization who according to Jim Steele, does good work he approves of.

It’s OK to disagree, it’s even OK to rant on blogs about things you disagree on, but taking the disagreement off the blog and into the person’s home is a big no-no.

Cool it, Tripp.

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257 thoughts on “Over the top: the sad case of Tripp Funderburk & the Coral Restoration Foundation International

  1. “this sort of behavior is not unacceptable”

    Anthony, I suspect that either the “not” or the “un” was inserted accidentally.

      • JIm, Nedimyer claims that he collected no corals….that the corals he frags had all settled naturally on his live rock piles. If corals setted naturally on his live rock piles….they will settle naturally on any exposed or damaged reef.
        If corals will settle naturally on exposed or damaged reefs……there is no need to plant frags on them.
        …if there is no need to plant frags…there is no need for NOAA to give them $2.1 million

        Do you follow that?…..There is huge money in this

      • the corals he frags had all settled naturally on his live rock piles
        ===============
        this is the real issue. free swimming polyps are pretty much everywhere in the countless billions. they need a clean surface on which to get a foothold and start forming corals. As Willis has pointed out, the parrotfish provides this service; cleaning the corals for new growth. Kill the parrotfish, kill the reef.

        I have serious doubts that you need to fragment corals to get them going, except perhaps to try and select one species over another. The main issue is to provide a clean surface on which they can grow, and the polyps will do the rest on their own.

        Who is to say staghorn corals are to be preferred? It seems rather arrogant for humans to be involved in making this sort of decision, mostly because we find a shape or color pleasing.

      • actually ferd that’s not 100% true either….corals need Crustose coralline algae (CCA) in order for settlement and metamorphosis of coral larvae to occur. Too clean and it don’t happen.

      • I propagate corals for a hobby and have specimens from my original stock distributed to enthusiasts around the world. Fragmentation is the simplest way to artificially grow ‘stony’ corals and ‘fixed’ fragments take better to the substrate than loose lying. Nature naturally expands the Reef as a consequence of storm activity. Other than storm damage, fragments don’t just jump off the colony and settle themselves down elsewhere. Coral spawning is another story.

      • @ Latitude

        Yr: “there’s huge money in this”

        Google: “coral restoration foundation working to restore eight reefs” for a CRF article that announces NOAA’s $2.1 million award to that organization. The article further notes, “The 2.1 million grant will be distributed over three years and will be matched dollar for dollar by Coral Restoration Foundation.” So the money associated with the NOAA grant, alone, just got doubly “huge”. .

        Charity Navigator does not rate the Coral Restoration Foundation. However, if you do a search for the Coral Restoation Foundation, at the Charity Navigator website, it will bring up a data page with asset and income information for the organization for what appears to be 2015 (little more than a million each in assets and income).

        Charity Navigator also provides a link to the charity’s Forms 990 for 2008 and 2010-2013, if someone is interested.

        The money that CRF takes in through government grants and tax deductible donations is, indeed, a tidy sum–perhaps worth every penny. On the other hand, it just might be prudent to be skeptical of a phiilanthropic enterprise that employs the likes of Funderburk.

      • So coral, which has existed for millions of years through all kinds of climate extremes suddenly needs human intervention to cultivate and repair itself?

        Sounds like another gravy train to me.

    • Those of us in a position to do so must push back against the anti-science activists. I just emailed Tripp’s Coral Restoration Foundation (info@coralrestoration.org) to draw their attention to this unacceptable behaviour.

      An ethical question for your CEO or Board of Directors

      G’day

      As someone who lives adjacent to the Great Barrier Reef I’m concerned about reef health and the damaging effects of faulty ideologically-driven pseudo-science on effective marine ecosystem conservation.

      Particularly nonsensical non-science is regularly emitted by James Cook University’s pompously named “ARC Centre for Excellence for Coral Reef Studies” and the (Australian) Climate Council.

      The Australian mainstream media slavishly follow the alarmist meme – to the detriment of genuine and meaningful understanding of our precious marine ecosystems.

      To get alternate views that better align with observed reality one has to go to science blogs – with one of the better ones being Anthony Watt’s excellent Watts Up With That.

      Jim Steele recently posted an outstanding piece on WUWT about how El Nino-driven sea level variations contributed to recent coral bleaching on the GBR.

      And this brings me to the reason for my message to you today.

      It is very disturbing to read Jim Steele’s comment on WUWT that one Tripp Funderburk from the Coral Restoration Foundation is behaving completely unprofessionally and unacceptably towards him in response to that article.

      (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/05/falling-sea-level-the-critical-factor-in-2016-great-barrier-reef-bleaching/comment-page-1/#comment-2475180)

      Steele says, “Trip is now calling my house, dropping F bombs and launching insulting rants.”

      Would you mind explaining how Funderburk’s reported behaviour aligns with your organisation’s values?

      Cheers etc

  2. Absolutely. What a tosser.

    “Hopefully Tripp gets the message this time, that this sort of behavior is not unacceptable,…”

    Should be “…not acceptable…” or “…unacceptable.. “.

  3. Bit of a typo here:

    Hopefully Tripp gets the message this time, that this sort of behavior is not unacceptable

    I think you meant “not acceptable”

      • The unfortunate part of this story, other than the nutty behavior off line, is that in order to spread these special corals, you have to go to a lot of rather expensive tropical resort destinations.

        Doesn’t seem to be much coral restoration going on in San Francisco Bay or Elkhorn slough.

        Wouldn’t it be nice to have some stag horn corals in Elk horn slough.

        I’d like to have a gig that required me to go to nice vacation spots.

        G

    • While “wound pretty tight” is a good layman’s characterization of Funderburk’s tragic ailment, those more studied in the anti-social behavior of do-gooders who work for outfits that place “donate” buttons in the very middle of their web-site home-pages, will immediately note that Funderburk exhibits the classic symptoms of “RMD” (Reefer Madness Disorder), with secondary indications of “SHC” (Suppository-Head Corprolalia) Syndrome, which pathologies, together, synergistically account for Funderbunk’s chronic tendency (and disturbing ability) to run his little potty-mouth out his fundament.

      • I think you meant “Coprolalia”, a sign of Tourette. “Corprolalia” is a sign of bureaucrassness or adverticulitis.

      • @billk

        Appreciate the correction and enjoyed the wit with which it was delivered. Alas, I’ve discovered that there was yet another error in my above comment. In the next to last line I erroneously referred to Funderburk as “Funderbunk”–a delicious, serendipitous, “Freudian” slip, no?

    • Without knowing what they were doing, they bet the farm on this fantasy. And now they’re becoming unhinged.

  4. I am fairly intolerant of such behavior. Swearing out a complaint of stalking or terroristic threats on Funderberk would seem appropriate.

    • I agree. If he shows up at your house again, call the cops. If he calls you again, file for a restraining order. When people start getting physical, like getting in your personal space, you better be very suspicious of their sanity. Most people won’t do that. Only highly agitated people do that kind of thing.

      Remember: About 10 percent of any group of people you look at are psychopaths or have psychopathic tendencies. Which can be exaserbated when they get real agitated.

      That’s why celebrities and other idiots with a public microphone should refrain from suggesting violence over some issue they feel strongly about because there are psychopaths out in the general public who will hear such things and think that gives them permission to take violent action. Be careful what you wish for.

      • I agree. The problem with Social Justice Warriors is their knowledge of impunity, not just a sense of impunity. If they get dragged into the criminal justice system, it should have a deterrent effect.

  5. Sounds to me like someone needs to file a restraining order for harassment against Mr Funderburk, then after the next obscene phone call, have him arrested and jailed

    • Of course Mr Halla’s suggestion of “Stalking” and “Terrorist Threats” also carries much merit

    • Ah, the snowflake generation. Get offended, call the law. Grow a spine why don’t you and give as you get.

      • Yeah, returning the favor with internet posts and phone calls is really manly and adult.

        How about you show us your spine? Name, address, and phone number. Put up or shut up.

      • The problem with:
        Returning insults with insults makes the world more insulting.
        Returning hate with hate makes the world more hateful.
        Returning punches with punches makes the world more violent.
        Returning gunfire with gunfire makes the cemeteries more populace.
        Best to let the Laws do what they do best.

      • Just a small point, Bryan A, but since we made children stop fighting on the playground and instituted gun control, violence has soared. Why? Because this is a denial of human behaviors. All the stated philosophy has done is create smoldering powder kegs that end up killing massive numbers of people when the individual explodes. It helps recruit for terrorists, who do understand human behavior and exploit it. Human beings can and will be violent. The goal is to channel the violence and stop pretending that “being nice” will fix the problem.

        Note: The anonymous nature of the internet has the same effect, allowing people to attack and pillage others verbally with no consequences. Taken in small amounts, it can serve to vent the hostility. Unfortunately, there are obviously those that overdo and take the “battle” to real life. There are oftn no brakes on this behavior.

      • ‘since we made children stop fighting on the playground and instituted gun control, violence has soared’

        Yes! What else it could be? /sarc

        We don’t allow fighting nor unlisenced guns, and there is fairly little violence around. Maybe there is a little bit more to it, like, for example, stable, growing economy, high employment rate, welfare, uniform ethnic society, reaching school system and pension fund system.

        I know this sounds trolling to some republicans, but not everything is solved by giving right to shoot to kill anyone suspicious.

      • “Offended”? “Give as you get”? What expert advice! Are you a tough guy, or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn last night?

        Acting illegally, like a psycho a*hole, gives up the advantage of being a rational productive citizen, however loud it makes you over a beer or eight with a mate.

      • Welfare, like all other forms danegeld only solves violence in the short term. In the long run it guarantees more violence.

      • Welfare, like all other forms of danegeld, does not prevent violence. It just delays it at best.
        I’ve always found it fascinating how those who fear other people having guns, always assume that those who don’t want to ban guns are anxious to go out and shoot people.

      • Hugs: Where is there fairly little violence around? Sweden, where they don’t spank kids and don’t have guns—but the rape rate is through the roof and parts of the country are no-go zones? While you’re reveling in your brilliance here, I didn’t say there wasn’t more to this. A growing economy, uniform ethnic society, better school system all would help. Pensions and welfare enslave people, so no, makes it worse. As for the gun control, only people incapable of rational thought make comments like yours. I don’t believe as some fools do that petting a grizzly bear sow will somehow appease her once you’ve gotten too close to her cubs. (Apply that to people however you want—you can’t make people nice with hugs. Only people that pet angry grizzlies believe that.)

        It sounds like trolling probably because it is. I meant nothing political in this (believe it or not, some things are NOT political), yet you immediately jumped to condemning a falsely represented political viewpoint. That’s trolling.

  6. This article is not unacceptable. Just continuing with the theme. It looks like Trip is one piling heap of Funderbunk. The name almost sounds like one of those spoonerisms, like “Fuddruckers”.

    I’ve claimed that the focus on climate change distracts from the real problems facing our ecology. Coral reefs are a prime example. They are fragile. The harm to coral reefs is both man-made and natural. We need to be diligent in addressing the man-made causes (of which climate change is not.)

  7. This sort of over the top behavior is becoming ever more the norm in modern society. I think it stems from the belief that the ends justifies any means used. This Trip fellow seems to think he has a lock on the truth and that there can be no other explanation of the plight of the reefs other than his own and so anyone disagreeing is a horrible person — literally that leader of Germany back in the 30s and 40s. (notice the side step around moderation?)

    So why has everyone gone so over the top in recent years? I blame cultural Marxism and the decline of the University into a “safe space for snowflakes” but I am sure others will have different reasons. Regardless, it seems to me that the West has gone crazy in my lifetime.

    • Markstoval:
      Your rationale seems to have some merit. Might I add that as I stated below: On must combat ideas with better ideas, or thinking with better thinking. “Higher education” is failing them, or they are failing it.
      The current academic culture seems to be stifling the advancement of critical thinking and thought processes. This leaves many, uninformed, scared and unarmed in any battle of wits. Absent any other means of action they resort to the education they seems to have learned from playground bullies.

      • The problem can be summed up in a simpler way.
        “I would engage you in a battle of wits, but I refuse to strike an unarmed opponent.”

      • Check out YouTube for interviews with University snowflakes and SJW’s. They are completely unable to argue their points when challenged, and immediately resort to the usual abuse and name-calling instead.

      • The modern university system is a production line designed to nominally satisfy the aspirations of people for their children, regardless of how stupid they might be. For many of these kids, the only way to get a degree is by taking classes in subjective fields, with the considerable assistance of grading curves. Regardless how mediocre the student, the course material, the prof or the entire field of study, the newly minted professional speaks with the confidence and surety of “an educated person”.
        Often these dimwits are just bright enough to realize that they are only capable of seeming knowledgeable by parroting what their profs told them, so they embark on a life of subterfuge, always avoiding anything other than mainstream thinking.
        Galileo, Martin Luther, Newton, Darwin, Einstein and siimilar intellectual revolutionaries didn’t achieve by education, they achieved without it or in spite of it!

    • Markstoval, I completely agree with your statement that West has gone crazy in our lifetime. I would add the world has gone nuts, period. You reasoning about “cultural Marxism” IE Political Correctness are also two valid points. Let alone the University situation.

    • I blame Jerry Springer.

      It’s a natural consequence of the old “dog bites man is not news; man bites dog is news” adage. You can’t sell newspapers or get good TV ratings by focusing on normal people doing normal things. so what is weird and abnormal is massively overrepresented in news reporting and mass market entertainment. The net effect is what is bizarre, decadent or perverted is made “normal” though constant repetition.

      To attract viewers the Jerry Springer show parades a constant supply of dysfunctional, irrational and even violent people to the TV audience, whose sense of “normal” is thereby warped. Movies and other forms of popular entertainment do the same thing.

      Hollywood stars love to rant about US “gun culture”, while at the same time pocketing huge salaries to portray vicious sociopathic killers doling out gratuitous gory violence and telling themselves that it’s just entertainment, and has no effect on anyone.

      • ‘Hollywood stars love to rant about US “gun culture”, while at the same time pocketing huge salaries to portray vicious sociopathic killers doling out gratuitous gory violence and telling themselves that it’s just entertainment, and has no effect on anyone’

        Good point. They also take a plane to come around to messabout horrible sea level rises. Yeah, nice pose.

    • Regarding college administrations bowing down to stupids — oops, i meant students.

      It is all about creating committed “revolutionaries”.

      Students have to be taught that “protesting” gets results — so, of course, to “teach” that — our socialist college administrations knuckle under — no matter how absurd the demands.

      What lesson would be taught if these stupids got their butts kicked out of school? The bitter lesson would be that irrational violent protesting doesn’t work — and that is not what our socialist colleges want to teach their students — therefore stupids and their protests must be rewarded.

      Reward their crude violent behaviors — and in the future (life after college) you will get more of it — which is what our socialist college professors want. Don’t teach them anything that will help them get jobs and transition into useful members of society.

      Such is the future socialists want. Its basic psychology.

      Eugene WR Gallun

    • You could include the ability to say things you might previously only have thought and to a wider audience also saying things that they had previously only thought.

      The downside of free and unrestricted access to the internet.

      The worrying thing is the number of people out there thinking these thoughts. Whatever happened to “we disagree; let’s discuss it”? When did my opinion take absolute priority over anybody else’s to the point where I am “entitled” to try to stop them disagreeing with me?

    • “This sort of over the top behavior is becoming ever more the norm in modern society. I think it stems from the belief that the ends justifies any means used. This Trip fellow seems to think he has a lock on the truth”

      I think that is the key. People who act this way think they have the truth on their side and the moral highground, and they think the people who don’t see things that way are immoral, so anything goes in order to dispatch the evil doer and have the “truth” prevail.

  8. I think it was a good to air this story. I have no idea whether Trip felt strongly about the health of the coral or whether he felt strongly about global warming or whether he just wanted to attack “deniers” who take an objective view of the scientific evidence.

    He and many others who jump to ill informed conclusions and act in an unacceptable manner should take note.

    • Don’t you think there’s a fair chance he just cares about protecting his phony baloney job?

    • I guess mania describes his behaviour pretty well. Sad case. I hope he finds his internal peace.

  9. I haven’t seen all of his rants, but it seems to me that he has not deemed it necessary to actually refute the claims that the bleaching could be caused by exposed coral.
    But, to physically assault someone who disagrees is irrational into the danger zone.
    One cannot defeat an idea with physical force. One must combat thoughts with other thoughts.

    • These individuals cannot do that. They can only yell and swear and call names. That’s why they do that. If they understood the science, they would argue the science. If they understand the science and still name call (Mann) it’s most likely a threat to their massive ego to have someone question their brilliance, and thus the threat must be attacked.

      Most often, it’s okay to engage these people on the internet if you have free time and don’t really expect to change their thought patterns. Continuing to engage usually does lead to swearing, screaming, etc, so I just leave at that point. Sometimes they can find out who you are call your home. It’s very much like an abusive spouse—if you back away, the spouse kind of holds back and thinks the battle was won. If you confront, you can very easily end up dead. How one deals with such people depends on how much confrontation and abuse one is willing to endure. You rarely, if ever, “win”. The angry ego goes on angry and nothing changes. The best hope is other readers will see the individual for what they really are. You might change some minds there.

      • Personally, I would love to be able to use my actual name at sites like this, but it is the vindictiveness that prevents me.
        I need my job, and work in the private sector.
        There are numerous ways that opining in public about controversial issue can cause one real problems in everyday life.
        And i only realized this was so after hearing numerous incidents of people getting into arguments on the net, only to have someone start calling their boss and trying to, and sometimes succeeding in, get(ting) them fired.
        Best not to risk it with sociopaths lurking who knows where.

  10. I have noticed a trend with rabid global warming enthusiasts, and that is a distinct lack of actual scientific expertise. Bill Nigh has a BS…in engineering. Al Gore has…a degree in journalism? Tripp Funderburk…MBA. The loudest voices are always the least accomplished.

    Always wrong, but never in doubt.

    • Tenn, tread carefully when attempting to place too much emphasis on academic credentials. Many well regarded individuals in the scientific professions do not have credentials specific to the exact topic at hand, yet their understanding of that subject is beyond many who have “received” such a credential.
      I am reminded of a story of just such an embarrassing incident. Thomas Midgley has just delivered a talk to a group of heating and cooling engineers on the topic of CFCs. After the discussion he was confronted by an audience member who asked where he got his degree in chemical engineering from. He replied that his degree was in mechanical engineering. Where upon he was attacked and lambasted for his lack of credentials and how did he think himself qualified to discuss CFC’s. The audience member was mortified to later learn that Midgley invented CFCs.

    • Bill Nigh HAS a BS? Or is BS?

      I have an MBA, and I am a freaking coral expert! Don’t mess with me!

      :–))

    • My anecdotal observation is that those with liberal arts degrees tend to embarrass themselves as the loudest, most frenzied, and scientifically challenged Climate Racketeers.

    • Hey, My best buddy on WOW is named Tripp. Among others toons He has one named Trippalot. Just because he spends a few hours a week manically killing imaginary people and creatures doesn’t mean he is a sociopath.

      Eugene WR Gallun

    • Tripp may be the modern version of “Buttafuoco”.
      Apologies to all the Buttafuocos out there in internet land

  11. The reason I post anonymously is that members of my extended family have been the victims of social justice warriors. The sin of one was to follow his employer’s written policy. If she had done what the social justice warrior (SJW) wanted, she would have been fired. That didn’t matter. She had months of the kind of unpleasantness that Jim experienced. The sin of the other was to state that, in some countries, it is possible for a white person to be the victim of racial prejudice. Silly person, SJW orthodoxy states that white people are privileged no matter where they are and can never be the victims of racial prejudice. Again, it was unpleasant.

    • The idea that all whites are automatically privileged, even when they are in the minority, is a racist idea in itself.

      • It goes back to the left wing habit of thinking of people as members of groups rather than as individuals.

      • “The idea that all whites are automatically privileged, even when they are in the minority, is a racist idea in itself”
        This is my view as well.
        What could possibly be more blatantly racist than the idea that not only are all white people inherently racist, but that only white people CAN be racist?
        The illogic is stupefying.

    • As the old saying goes, “It isn’t racist if it’s anti-white, it isn’t sexist if it’s anti-male, it isn’t discrimination on the basis of sexual preference if it’s anti straight.”

    • A black president of the US can’t be racist.
      A white unemployed coal minor can’t be not racist.

  12. Over at Climate, Etc, Judith Curry’s blog, she started a thread on the new AGU policy on harassment and bullying.
    https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/09/bullying-as-scientific-misconduct/#more-22967
    Funderburk absolutely bombed the thread with his views on the coral reefs and his opinion of Jim Steele, both. Of course, this is wildly off-topic for a thread on AGU policy, but no matter, apparently.
    Here is an example:
    https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/09/bullying-as-scientific-misconduct/#comment-845734
    and another:
    https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/09/bullying-as-scientific-misconduct/#comment-845823

    Yikes.

    • You have to admit he gave a perfect example of “Bullying” . The first thing he posted was, “Judith, it is not bullying if it is the truth.”

      • Right. Every bully thinks they’re God’s special angel of righteousness. And that the end justifies the means.

      • The following is my favorite quote:

        Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was false. Bertrand Russell

      • Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was false. Bertrand Russell
        ========
        thus the danger of combining church and state. the church has absolute belief and the state has absolute power of life and death. live and death then becomes an absolute matter of what you believe, not what you do.

      • Yeah, I’m not bullying when I tell you what a piece of shit you are….

        But there is a point in bullying not remembered often. Bully is controlling the bullied. The one who is controlled, is not a bully.

      • “Right. Every bully thinks they’re God’s special angel of righteousness.”
        Not precisely all of them.
        Some are just plain rotten bungholios.

      • Reminds me of Bertrand Russell’s Russell Conjugations:

        I am firm; you are obstinate; he is a pig-headed fool.
        I am righteously indignant; you are annoyed; he is making a fuss about nothing.
        I have reconsidered it; you have changed your mind; he has gone back on his word.

        We all tend to be more forgiving of behaviour in ourselves and others close to us than we are for strangers or distant acquaintances.

    • TonyL I read some of “Tripp’s” comments . If you don’t call that bullying and or slander. I would be amazed. To me, it almost looks like the guy WANTS to get a law suite against him so he can get both JC and Steele of topic ( no comments during a court case) and stop their commentary and studies.

      • A deliberate provocation, then. It does seem to me to be clear defamation. There also seems to be an element of stalking as well. One might understand his appearance here at WUWT, as Jim Steele wrote a post. But there is no reason he would just have popped up on Curry’s blog, especially on a thread about AGU policy.
        More, compare his comments on both sites. There are a lot of common phrases, suggesting at least some cut-and-paste. One starts to wonder what other sites he has appeared.

      • Yes. And I have thanks to CE (not this newer thread) informed him personally that I will take the case pro bono should Judith chose to procede. In my circumstances, pro bono means not just that I charge no attorney fees, I shoulder all expenses in return for nothing but personal satisfaction.
        Whether Mann v. Steyn, or Funderbunk, it will take a few big slap downs with commensurate financial consequences to get this warmunist nonsense stopped. Lets get on with it.

      • Rist’ you are a Mensch … and I’m settling down with my popcorn in readiness of Round One … “Let’s Get Readyyyyyyy To RRRRRRumbleee!” Seconds out!

      • Law suit, not law suite. A law suite is the office in which you consult a lawyer about bringing a law suit.

  13. As a non scientist I remain bemused by scientists who continually predict the demise of our coral reefs who have survived substantial changes in temperature over millions of years. Even in recent times we have seen bleaching events and recoveries such that it is likely that this process is something that has been occurring naturally on a regular basis for eons. If as I suspect the current bleaching will be a past event in a couple of years I think the alarmists will be quite disappointed. They are really hoping for some major environmental tragedy to justify their AGW theory.

    • What is truly amazing is that the earth is in one of it’s coolest periods in the history of the planet.
      We are living in an ice age, and are currently fortunate to be enjoying in a brief warmup called an interglacial.
      The entire Earth has almost always been far warmer than is presently the case.
      The idea that a few degrees of warmer weather for a while is some sort of threat to coral in any real and long term sense is ludicrous, when viewed through the objective lens of reality.
      Further, over the past several millions years there have been regular cycles of glacial advance and decline, and each has caused changes in sea level on the order of hundreds of feet.
      All of the reefs we see today that are near the surface are less than 10,000 years old. The space they are in was high and dry before that amount of time ago.
      Not only have the corals of the world survived every temperature shock the Earth has delivered, as the world has warmed and cooled by tens of degrees, they have done so while either chasing the rising surface of a rapidly rising ocean, or being left high and dry as interglacials ended, and the coral had to continually reform at ever lower depths.
      Coral reefs are important ecosystems, and must be understood, studied and protected as much as possible.
      As has been stated, the current hallucination by so many, that all change in the world is due to the influence of man and specifically the real and the imaginary warming that must only be due to CO2, is very harmful to this effort to understand our world.
      It is not scientific, and it is not helpful to an effort to gain knowledge, to attribute events to false causes.
      High minded motives to not alter this truth.
      It is pathetic, shameful, and just plain sad that so many are so wrong about so much, and are likely harming the causes they profess to champion.
      It is my most sincere desire and prayer that these people come to see their folly for what it is.
      The harm they have done to real science and to honest stewardship of our planet is horrendous, it is growing ever worse, and it must be stopped…one way or another.

  14. All I could think of is that really his name? He must be the Dick Trickle of biologists or something.

  15. I hate to bring this up….but after reading both sides…..both sides are saying things that are not 100% factual.

    Coral evolved to bleach thousands of years ago…changing their Zooxanthellae (dinoflagellates) for another clade is how it works. It’s a survival skill.

    Acropora reproduce sexually. They are not primary reef builders, are the weeds of the reef, and also spread by fragmentation. They spread to new locations sexually….egg, sperm, etc

    There are no bleached corals in that picture.

    • L, me and my then family snorkeled the only underwater trail in the National Park system, Virgin Islands National Park, a year after a bad hurricane hit. The acropora staghorns were decimated. Nothing but dead fragments 15 feet down on the bottom. Ten years later, they were beautiful again. Nature is wonderful. And remarkably resilient.

      • Street, they do both. asexual fragmentation is just dominant because they break easily. When you read that asexual is dominant, that just means it’s the most common, and it’s the most common because they break easily (I know, that went around in a circle). They do sexual too.

        You’ll like this….acropora spawning in Marathon

      • Of course, you’re quite right! Had a spawning of Pocillopora in my tank a few months back … now the little buds are everywhere. The fractionator normally cleans the gametes mes out pretty quickly but these little buggers have stuck fast.

      • Saying acrops are primary reef builders, someone is pulling someone’s leg
        That’s like saying johnson grass is a primary corn field builder.
        They are weeds and overgrow the primary builders, smothering them out.

        [But what is the “natural” grass? Corn? Johnson grass (an imported “weed” by the way)? San Agustine? Bermuda? Or the long-time back original brush and sage and grass? .mod]

      • You realize if they didn’t reproduce sexually….every acrop in the world would be the same one….just a clone/frag of the original..they would never evolve

        Since you have them do the dirty for you…. here’s a fun trick
        Cut a piece of Starboard and prop it up in the back….for some reason coralline loves it…the “buds’ will settle on it fast
        Starboard is that marine plastic that people use for cutting boards too. You can find it on the internet as cutting boards

      • Yes that occurred to me, Lat ;-) Don’t need starboard for that, any surface in the tanks cop it … I have a real job scraping off some viral acro species.

      • Lattitude, do you realize that one does not need different sexes for evolution? A simple error in DNA copying during cell division is enough to generate mutations, which then may have a better chance at survival? For example MRSA doesn’t reproduce sexually, however it evolved to be anti-biotic resistant.

      • You are perhaps (or perhaps not?) unaware that bacteria can acquire new genetic traits by means other that random mutations.
        There are several ways that this is known to occur, which mostly involve bacteria sharing genetic materials with each other.
        Bacteria actually do undergo a type of mating called conjugation, in which genes can be transferred, in particular the genes for antibiotic resistance. These genes can be found on plasmids or transposons.
        Another common way is for viruses to transfer genes between bacteria.
        Such viruses are astoundingly common and exist in stupendously large numbers, although it seems that many people are unaware that such things exist.
        Such viruses are commonly referred to as bacteriophages, or just phages for short.
        The can pick up genes, including those for antibiotic resistance, from one host, and then transfer those genes to subsequent bacterial hosts.
        And bacteria can even simple pick up DNA floating around loose in the environment in which they exist.
        Note that these methods to not require that the bacteria that share material are the same species or even related species.
        Since any organisms that have resistance to antibiotics will be the ones that survive an encounter with an antibiotic containing cell, they will soon be the only ones left.

        They (antibiotic resistance genes) do not have to evolve over and over again.
        They can evolve once, are then strongly selected for by dint of great ability to survive, and then spread lat3erally to other species, within which they may also be strongly selected for.

      • Have you got the wrong thread? Bacteria plays an important part in coral biology but what you have copied and pasted (?) is nonsensical in the context of coral biology.

      • Menicholas April 13, 2017 at 9:47 pm … my apologies, read this on my mobile phone and didn’t appreciate it as a response to the post above.

      • Apology accepted, but no need re being off topic.
        However, I must point out that if I am quoting a source directly, I always use quotation marks and provide a link to the quoted source.
        I do occasionally use reference materials that I paraphrase from, as I did here (I could not immediately recall the word for conjugation), but I was referencing my own memory and knowledge for the information that I related.
        Just so ya know.
        I actually do have an extensive scientific edumacation, and have kept up with many fields outside my areas of formal education.
        I originally pursued a degree called Interdisciplinary Natural Science, but switched to a straight undergraduate chemistry degree.
        Lifelong science groupy, my first foray into the world of real science was when I did an internship with the Chairman of the Neuroanatomy Department at Hahnemann Hospital and Medical College.
        I have never been formally employed as a scientist, but I once met someone who played a scientist on TV..

  16. Agree completely that this jerk Funderiburk s behaving badly. Having read a number of Mr, Steele’s essay, it is very clear that he has done extensive research and developed a substantial knowledge of the subject. In this internet age it is quite possible for anyone with the interest and dedication to self educate in any subject to the equivalent of a Ph.D and beyond. In fact many of the PhD’s I’ve dealt with in areas of my expertise are woefully ignorant of the real world applications in their areas of supposed expertise.

    I have found WUWT to be very educational in many areas of science both in the essays and in the many linked papers and studies that are referenced. Maybe with enough time and effort I will eventually become well educated in real climate science. Keep up the good work Anthony, Jim, Willis and all the other frequent contributors.

  17. record the next phone call for posterity
    post it online
    make the neurotic poodle pee the rug.
    to everything there is a purpose.

  18. Oh oh. We like Jim Steele around here. In my humble opinion he is one of the best educators on the site.

    This isn’t Washington and you are not Rahman Emmanuel Tripp.

  19. This reply from trip made me laugh.

    “Don132,
    What does a 2014 explanation of coral stress have to do with documented, widespread coral bleaching and death in 2016, and further bleaching in 2017? But congrats for propping up a strawman and beating the crap out of it.”

    When Don132 also cited this 2017 paper,

    “Let’s not forget Ampou et al 2017: http://www.biogeosciences.net/14/817/2017/bg-14-817-2017.pdf

    Trip is just blowing smoke.

    • More than blowing smoke. He doesn’t have the backing of the chairman of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, Russell Reichelt. Reichert said the following less than year ago (June 2016). In
      The Australain

      Activist scientists and lobby groups have distorted surveys, maps and data to misrepresent the extent and impact of coral bleaching on the Great Barrier Reef, ­according to the chairman of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, Russell Reichelt.

      A full survey of the reef ­released yesterday by the author­ity and the Australian Institute of Marine ­Science said 75 per cent of the reef would escape unscathed.

      Dr Reichelt said the vast bulk of bleaching damage was confined to the far northern section off Cape York, which had the best prospect of recovery due to the lack of ­onshore development and high water quality.

      And further down,

      Dr Reichelt said the authority had withdrawn from a joint ­announcement on coral bleaching with Professor Hughes this week “because we didn’t think it told the whole story”. The taskforce said mass bleaching had killed 35 per cent of corals on the northern and central Great Barrier Reef. [What Tripp is screaming.]

      Dr Reichelt said maps accompanying the research had been misleading, exaggerating the ­impact. “I don’t know whether it was a deliberate sleight of hand or lack of geographic knowledge but it certainly suits the purpose of the people who sent it out,” he said.

      “This is a frightening enough story with the facts, you don’t need to dress them up. We don’t want to be seen as saying there is no ­problem out there but we do want people to understand there is a lot of the reef that is unscathed.”

      Dr Reichelt said there had been widespread misinterpretation of how much of the reef had died.

      “We’ve seen headlines stating that 93 per cent of the reef is prac­tic­ally dead,” he said.

      “We’ve also seen reports that 35 per cent, or even 50 per cent, of the entire reef is now gone.

      “However, based on our ­combined results so far, the overall mortality rate is 22 per cent/b> — and about 85 per cent of that die-off has occurred in the far north ­between the tip of Cape York and just north of Lizard Island, 250km north of Cairns. Seventy-five per cent of the reef will come out in a few months time as recovered.”

      So much for Mr. Funderburk’s mewling. He doesn’t have Russell Reichelt’s scientic and research stones: Reichelt has been studying the Great Barrier Reef since 1968, and has a Ph.D in Marine Science, among many illustrious academic achievements.
      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/great-barrier-reef-scientists-exaggerated-coral-bleaching/news-story/99810c83f5a420727b12ab255256774b

  20. This reminds me of fans of the University of Kentucky who began to harass referee John Higgins after their loss to UNC in the NCAA basketball tournament. They were so bad that the FBI actually got involved. College basketball officials are not full-time employees, but contracted to do games. Thus they have other jobs. John Higgins owns a roofing business and the UK fans tried to hurt his business too.

    People become too invested in something: a cause or a sports team or their wallets. And then along comes that threatens their beloved. This triggers something in them and they become completely irrational. You see it a lot in sports, religion, and politics. I have observed that people are most irrational when they cannot dispute you. I like to say the quickest way to make someone angry is to be right. Scott Adams (of the Dilbert comics) talks a lot about cognitive-dissonance. A person’s beloved is threatened by something that cannot be disputed. But in your mind you are right. And so you have to invent a way to make the other person wrong so that you feel safe again knowing your beloved is still alive.

    “Kentucky didn’t lose the game to a Luke Maye gaming winning shot. John Higgins cheated us.” “Of course the Trinity is real. When Jesus prayed for help he was in a different form on the earth.” (P.S. I am not making that up. That is what someone said when I asked them if Jesus was God and part of a trinity, why did he have to pray to God and why did he pray for God’s will to be done, not his?) “Of course I am right about coral bleaching! Jim Steele lacks the qualifications like I do.” And so on. The pattern is clear: The person will invent some reason to keep their beloved safe, even if it means a call to action in a holy war.

    • alexwade,

      ““Of course the Trinity is real. When Jesus prayed for help he was in a different form on the earth.” (P.S. I am not making that up. That is what someone said when I asked them if Jesus was God and part of a trinity, why did he have to pray to God and why did he pray for God’s will to be done, not his?)”

      I see nothing at all strange in that response . . What’s the problem? You had a different notion of what it would entail for God to take on human form? So what? ?

      “The person will invent some reason to keep their beloved safe, even if it means a call to action in a holy war.”

      Invent? The Book says speaks to this . . in Philippians 2 for example;

      Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

      Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

      But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

      And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

      I don’t get it . . I honestly don;t see what you’re “triggered” by there . . Or any indication that the other person did anything to warrant references to holy wars . .

      Am I doing something to warrant such . . warnings, right now?

  21. Well, This is exactly why I don’t use my full name when posting on blogs. I have a very unique last name and I could be found very easily these days with all the public record search engines on the web. If you ever had a mortgage (who hasn’t) it is a matter of public record and easily searched. The most galling part is the local gubermint makes money selling access to these records….

    Used to be these records where for legit legal purposes so someone could find the owner of a delinquent property, or collect debts or taxes. Now they can be used to track down just about anyone.

    Sure sounds like Tripp is wound just a wee bit too tight for his own sanity and everybody’s safety.

    From my readings of Mr. Steele’s work it all sounds quite reasonable and logical from someone trained in a relevant field. Disagree, sure thing, threaten and harass, way off limits….

    Cheers, KevinK

  22. If Funderbugger pulled that stunt of personal confrontation at someone’s home with the wrong guy he could get perp-marched off the property in quick order. Many men would not tolerate that threatening behavior on their personal property, and would remove the threat immediately. Funderbuggar best pick his trespass spot very carefully. An email fight is an entirely different proposition.

      • Thy home is thy castle, but being murderous in confrontation is something I place to Sicily without admiration.

      • Interesting how you assume they were talking about killing.
        Says a lot about your own personal biases and bigotries.
        For example, the first post merely mentioned having the offender perp marched off the property.

    • Martin, the floaters are more likely to be pumice. In my experience, I have not seen coral fragments / rubble floating … it always sinks to the bottom in my tanks ;-0

      • Duh. Looks like you are right. Thanks. My fault for listening to local patrol officers. Maybe they are confusing it with the occasional stag coral debris.
        There is an underwater volcano, Havre Seamount, 1000km north of Auckland. Been spewing pumice for a while. That gets to the Sunshine Coast so would eventually get here.

  23. This ‘Tripp’ really has a virulent case of the Nobel Cause/social justice warrior derangement syndrome, doesn’t he???
    From https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/09/bullying-as-scientific-misconduct/#comment-845823
    “If you think I belittle Jim Steele, then you undercount how little I think of this fraudulent science and climate denier. ………. Let me repeat myself, he is a liar and a fraud. He has a long history of attacking legitimate scientists while posting lie-filled climate denial propaganda on climate denial websites. Those are just facts whether you like them or not.” Why is he so rude? Because ‘he cares soooooo much’…..

    M’thinks his NOAA funding source might be jeopardized this year and on, given the pending budget cuts!
    No more jetting around the globe, diving on remote reefs, and soaking up the sun from the deck of a 40 foot cruiser can really pique ones ire, eh Tripp? Couldn’t happen to (ahem) ‘a nicer person’, bless his heart!

    • John Kerry and Mikey Mann have a case of Nobel Cause Derangement, i.e. rhey wanted one so bad they did stupid stuff. I think Trppy’s problem is TDS with underlying Noble Cause Corruption.

      • Now that is funny.

        Sad, because so many deaths and so much squandered treasure have resulted, but the sad situation stated in a humorous way.

  24. [P]retending that the Great Barrier Reef is not bleaching due to anything but climate change is poppycock.

    I had to read that a few times to be sure, but I believe Tripp is correct.

    • Oooh, good catch Another Doug.
      I don’t know if he is correct in saying that “Climate change is the only reason corals are not bleaching; pretending otherwise is poppycock,” but I’d bet money that it’s not what he intended to say. I think maybe he’s still just wrong. ~_^

    • Yes, getting all those negations linked up properly can be a problem for an engaged SJW (and often for an unengaged one as well).

  25. I’ve always said Liberalism (the US version of Liberals, aka Progressives) is a mental disorder. Most of them are spirally downward in Trump Derangement Syndrome. (TDS) that can no longer remain in rational discourse. They are becoming more and more sociopathically deranged (as TDS implies) with each “triggering” event, and they are unable to cope.

    I would suggest Tripp should seek professional psychiatric care and possibly get on a regimen of Xanax (or similiar) anti-anxiety pharmacologic agent. Alcohol should avoided even if not on Xanax as we all know a pint’o courage can bring… only more irrational behavior.
    (BTW: Xanax and similar Rx come with very strong alcohol contraindications.)

      • When you are right, everything you do is justified.
        In the mind of a leftist, not only are they never wrong, they can’t be wrong.

  26. Wait…Sea levels DROPPING?? Aren’t they supposed to be RISING due to ice melt AND warm water expansion? If coral is getting exposed (and thus bleached) by [FALLING] sea levels, A. Someone is lying about sea level rise and B. Sea level rise might be a GOOD thing. “Save the Coral! Warm the Earth!”

    • Shhhh, that’s logic man and we’re talking pure emotion here. You have to compartmentalize and contextualize these things.

    • “Aren’t they supposed to be RISING due to ice melt AND warm water expansion? ”
      Perhaps you forgot that CO2 is the magic molecule.
      Falling sea levels are just as much a proof of impending catastrophe as the more commonly noted and exaggerated sea level rise.

  27. Given the virulence of Tripp’s accusations (see quotes and link at J Mac April 13, 2017 at 4:48 pm), I encourage you all to follow Jim Steele’s suggestion ” Perhaps a few emails or calls to the foundation would alert them to Trip’s detrimental behavior.”
    (305) 453-7030
    info@coralrestoration.org

  28. Allowing bleaching, even coral death may be the equivalent of natural forest fires punctuated by the less frequent natural catastrophic wildfire. This is something that bleeding heart liberals, given free reign, could really f**k up by over-protecting coral beds from bleaching.

      • Menicholas, it’s worse than we thought – they want cold-water pumping stations. This is from the Cairns Post newspaper in Queensland.

        Pipeline scheme to cool down Barrier Reef not such a “wacko” idea: scientist
        Daniel Bateman, The Cairns Post
        March 23, 2017 5:00am

        http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/cairns/pipeline-scheme-to-cool-down-barrier-reef-not-such-a-wacko-idea-scientist/news-story/352cab5dc02054125c53a2f990060059
        – paywalled

        A PLAN to save the Great Barrier Reef by building a pipeline pumping cool water to protect corals from bleaching may not be as crazy as it sounds.

        The Cairns based Reef and Rainforest Research Centre has requested $9 million in federal money towards a pilot scheme that aims to channel colder waters to certain areas within the marine park to safeguard against coral bleaching.

        Australian Institute of Marine Science researcher Dr Richard Brinkman, who has a background in oceanography, said the scheme – which sounded like a “wacko idea” – could work in theory.

        “For some of the reefs that are prime tourist sites, the proximity to cold water is quite close,” he said.

        “You might only have to go down 50m or so.

        “Potentially this could work, but it’s an engineering question more than anything.”

        He warned, however, there would need to be more research before the scheme was instigated.

        “What will work at one site, may not work on another site,” he said.

        “If you’ve a place where the current is always screaming past, and you’re putting colder water in it, it will just mix away very rapidly,” he said.

        “If you’ve got a place that’s a little bit benign, your cool water is close and you can get it to the surface relatively cheaply, it may actually present a solution.”

        James Cook University and technology and innovation festival Myriad is hosting a ‘hackathon’ in Townsville on Saturday to find creative ways to help the Reef.

        Facilitator Dr Allan Dale, from JCU’s Cairns Institute, said the event would draw together many diverse thinkers around possible solutions to maintaining and improving the health of the natural wonder.–

      • Beliaik,
        Methinks they best sharpen up their pencils and recalculate that plan.
        How much water must be moved, over what distance and head?
        Oh, and do so 24/7 forever.
        There is that.
        But hey, it is not like it take a lot of energy to pump water, does it?
        Oh, wait…that’s right…it does!
        Best add up the carbon *gasp* budget on that plan, eh?
        Cool down the ocean by pumping water around…OMeffinG!
        I thought I was kidding!
        Well, it sounds like they have nine millions reason for their insane stupidity.

      • Can they pump enough cold water to flood and recover the reef, when the sea level is low and 15cm of coral is exposed for extended periods of time (Ampou 2017)? And how viable would that really be? Hmmmm….

      • Nope. I meant free reign, as in the king know best and there will be no vote on this. Dems are gearing up to take back their squandered control with a vengeance. Yet we have a litany of failed interference in that natural world, such as giving endogenous people free stuff, and closing forests to human access.

  29. I’ve always said Liberalism (the US version of Liberals, aka Progressives) is a mental disorder. Most of them are spirally downward in Trump Derangement Syndrome. (TDS) that can no longer remain in rational discourse. They are becoming more and more sociopathically deranged (as TDS implies) with each “triggering” event, and they are unable to cope.

    I would suggest Tripp should seek professional psychiatric care and possibly get on a regimen of Xanax (or similiar) anti-anxiety pharmacologic agent. Alcohol should avoided even if not on Xanax as we all know a pint’o courage can bring… only more irrational behavior.
    (BTW: Xanax and similar Rx come with very strong alcohol contraindications.)

    Given the virulence of Tripp’s accusations (see quotes and link at J Mac April 13, 2017 at 4:48 pm), I encourage you all to follow Jim Steele’s suggestion ” Perhaps a few emails or calls to the foundation would alert them to Trip’s detrimental behavior.”
    (305) 453-7030
    info@coralrestoration.org

    What a bunch of deluded retarded fuckwits you are. Eat your own shit while you fuck your disgusting selves with your filthy deluded wastoid minds.

    • Selv, who let you in on a science blog? Go away. You add nothing to the discussion, and degrade conservative values, if you even know what that means.

    • Umm, Selv?
      Just a suggestion, do as you like, I’m sure … but how’s about we turn down the crank on that flamethrower? Just a notch or two, maybe? Only, you’re red & blistered in the face, the burgers & franks are long since ash, & even your neighbors are approaching medium-well, if you take my meaning.
      No matter how good it feels to say stuff like that last bit you wrote, it doesn’t convince anyone of anything (unless it’s that you yourself might could use some of that Xanax you’re prescribing, e.g.).
      Simmer down, my dude.

  30. Tripp, one of your fellow travelers, Phil Plaitt gave a talk titled “Don’t be a dick” to all the JREF sycophants attending one of their annual symposiums. These “Reason” readers have jumped the shark, and cannot fathom that they’ve actually co-joined in a cult of dogmatic adherence to something they call skepticism. The irony surrounding that group is a rich vein. These cultists hate climate change “deniers” so much that they even threatened to turn on the venerable old James Randi himself when he spoke with some scientific circumspection and didn’t ape the full alarmist party line as they thought he ought. Anyway, Phil, who’s one of them, seemed to twig to the idea that something was wrong with the home team. it was an interesting topic for the head of such a group. Again, the point is, well, don’t be a dick.

  31. “A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep”
    SAUL BELLOW
    I couldn’t help thinking of this quote as I learned about Trip Funderburk’s comments.

  32. The largest proportion of the activist crowd are non scientific, zealous, angry, unhappy, people, rebels with a dubious cause based on faith alone. I’m not surprised about this. What continues to surprise me are actual scientists in the climate science family who remain quiet, seemingly okay with the worst excesses of such juvenile behavior as long as it supports their viewpoint.

    How does this tolerance of ugly, empty vitriol serve AGW proponents? It doesn’t. This stuff is the reason they are casting about in vain for ways to pitch their message to convince people to take AGW seriously. It’s telling that pricey Madison Avenue, so called PR specialists, don’t see the damage being done by such as this hot headed guy. I’d report this possibly dangerous fellow to the authorities if it continues.

    • A dying animal often strikes out at everything around it.
      Sometimes it is best not to draw attention to yourself until after the beast is dead.

  33. Would people ALWAYS please use the word “relative” or “eustatic” when referring to sea level!

    Unless supported by strong evidence that eustatic (mean, global) is the prime driver then “relative” MUST be used. ENSO cycles and tectonic displacement (in influencing relative sea level change) are far more dynamic than eustatic sea level change. Neither of the former (while killing coral) need be be an indicator of AGM. This is first year Earth Science stuff for goodness sake

  34. Hummm, perhaps Tripp Funderburk desires to talk about his issues and is asking vicariously for calls or visits to his house to prove his points?

    There is a line in the sand that exists, if you cross it what happens ?

    Many have and have not had to face any consequences what so ever.

    Such is the perception of PC life today. Right ~Wrong?

    Bullying, or assault (creating apprehension) in this case, should not be tolerated anylonger, period…..

    Queue up the video from the house science committee meeting if you want to see the professional perpetrator at work.

  35. Tripp Funderburk? that’s a pseudonym surely, sounds like a character from a Simpsons episode

    • According to Google there are quite a few Funderburks out there.

      It does remind me of the old Laugh In joke about Farkel family including the children named Simon and Gar Farkel and of course the neighbour Ferd Berfel.

      Then of course there was Monty Python’s Biggus Dickus who was said to wrank as high as anybody in Wrome. His wife was Incontinentia Buttockus.

    • I thought Tripp was just looney tunes. I see now, he’s trying to make living. He’s a carnival barker. Step right up and see the bleached coral. Only 2.5 mil. He didn’t happen to mention ocean acidification did he?
      I also think that he may feel a sense that he can or is silently expected to harass others that have a differing view. Statements have been made by high profile people that we are not much more than criminals, devoid of conscience, intelligence, or scientific acumen.
      The people that put themselves out there publicly to counter them have my highest respect.
      If there is just one thing that I have helped or supported to bring this house of cards down that is AGW, I will have considered it time well spent.

  36. On LinkedIn, Tripp’s skills include managing office politics and enhancing an environmental portrait of a model in photoshop. Seriously!

    • Quote *Tripp’s skills include managing office politics* Obviously he wasn’t really that skilful at it going by his attack on Jim Steele.

    • “Tripp’s skills include managing office politics”

      How would you like to be in that office! Tripp would be following you all around the office trying to browbeat you into political submission. I guess if that didn’t work, then he would call you at home and come over and lambast you in person.

  37. Tripp. I’ve spent a couple of decades exploring the cools waters of the Northern Europe i.e. Baltic Sea. Never seen any corals over there. But yet I have some knowledge about coral colony aggression and territorial battles in warmer conditions e.g.

    and coral battles are known also within species e.g.

    Even if we ignore all that, MBA curriculum normally includes some marketing. Your clientele seems like a very specialised niche market indeed.

  38. In my experience, ad hominem attacks are a certain sign that a participant in a debate has exhausted all logical resources available. When the ad homs also fail, the intellectually bankrupt are often prone to escalating the debate to physical confrontations.

  39. The hills are alive
    With the sound of climate change alarmists
    who are realising they have backed the wrong horse.
    And instead of well heeled heroes
    They may end up looking like greedy little clowns.

    Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

  40. I shall be discussing the sad case of Tripp Funderburk with a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome called ‘Biggus Dickus’.

    As an interesting exercise in “how to argue” a comparative study of the works of Monty Python and the CAGW debate can be a good source of comedy gold.

  41. The Coral Restoration Foundation looks more like a front company non-profit where people can make a few bucks while supporting their lifestyle in the Florida Keys living at a yachting club and diving and generally having lots of parties.

    They are not raising enough money for anyone but a few to have a real job. They are not restoring coral reefs. They are running boats and diving schools for tourists in other ventures on the side.

    Just look it up.

  42. In connection with Jim Steele’s excellent post, I’ve been researching some mysteries surrounding the reported bleaching around Lizard Island on the GBR and found this of 29 March 2016 at the height of observed bleaching (My bold):
    “This year, the combination of El Niño, climate change and an extended period of hot summer days when the tide was exceptionally low has caused many of the corals that survived last year’s cyclone to lose their symbiotic algae and start bleaching.”
    http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/coral-reefs-hit-by-worst-global-bleaching-event

    It cites Senior Research Fellow, Dr Jodie Rummer from the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies, so it must be right.

    Elsewhere there is reference to increased UV, what with reduced cloud cover and whatnot.

    Bob Fernley-jones

  43. The 1983 near extension die off of the Diadema antillarum is the seminal event in the destruction of the western Atlantic coral reefs. From Bermuda to Brazil 98% mortality in one year, 1983. Very good overview of the event and efforts to restore Diadem to the reefs. http://www.alertdiver.com/diadema

  44. He will not get the message. Zealots never do. As Captain Red Legs said “doing right aint got no end”, and that is how these EWs see themselves. Borderline psychotic.

  45. Religious fanatics, especially when involved with a lucrative gig based on their religion, seldom “cool it” willingly or gracefully. This mook sounds like a pedigreed full blown cynically ignorant fanatic.

  46. Mr Funderburk is a Washington lobbyist and was obviously hired to obtain federal grants for this organization. Therefore his opinions are worthless.

  47. Catastrophic Anthropogenic Tectonic Plates. Cant we have a tax or something? to stop them sinking

  48. Many comments here over complicate the real issue. Very simply, stupid is forever. MBA’s are a dime a dozen. I know, I have one. It was the undergraduate engineering that was difficult. But even there, given the time and money, anyone can get a degree in anything from some college, somewhere now days. And that includes medicine. Scary, huh?

    • There are people who get a degree with grades of Cs and low Bs, and others who get As and perhaps a few high Bs mixed in.
      Those differences mean a lot when it comes to what you learned and what you know, but the degree papers over that difference completely.
      There are some people around who are very smart and know a lot of stuff about a lot of things, and there are people with degrees that are barely competent to tie their shoes, and seem to have used their years of education to become even bigger ninnies than they started out.

      • After the ink is dry on all those degrees their owners go forth to employ the knowledge they have gained. At this point, that knowledge gets activated by and filtered through the inherent integrity, restraint and egotistical nature of the individual. The education can be a starting point for a lifetime of learning and service or it can become a club or keep to hide away in ignorance. This Funderburk guy is a lot like Mikey Mann to my eye. The truth threatens their gravy train.Look away! It burns!

  49. The snowflakes are really starting to become unhinged, the gravy train they had come to depend on from the liberals and other mindless drones in the climate scam business dried up, and now this man from Atlantis clown has found a target for his frustration.

  50. Surely the biologists advising this foundation know that the major coral problems are due to fishing, pollution and sunscreen. The coral reef on the West of Australia is pristine is due to a fishing boat ban and basic conservation. Cuban coral is pristine in the same sea as affected Florida coral for the same reason. This has all been blindingly obvious from day 1.

    The bigger problem is that if you falsely fixate on the wrong issue then you don’t provide the correct solution. This is where old-fashioned conservation and mindless climate activism clash to the detriment of the former. I used to think these types were just lying in order to get some otherwise difficult-to-get conservation money from the apparently bottomless climate pot. More and more though it seems they are just plain dumb as a post.

    • that is the situation in a nutshell jasg. the damage done to true environmentalism has been huge.

  51. Peer review is the gold standard of science. Without proper peer review, science fields such as Homeopathy and Climate would never have reached the heights of confidence they currently enjoy.
    https://www.journals.elsevier.com/homeopathy/
    Lesser fields like Physics and Thermodynamics rely on mundane proofs like dropping apples on peoples heads to qualify their laws.

  52. Upon checking today on Facebook, Tripp Funderburk, has written on his profile, former Operations manager at Coral Reef Foundation International.

  53. Sounds like Tripp is ruining the family name. Needs to apologize and ask forgiveness. Suggest you do something positive to help people and the environment. Good example of how politics and science don’t mix.

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