From Bloomberg, 11 March 2017 (h/t to GWPF) by Joe Ryan
Finance ministers for the U.S., China, Germany and other members of the Group of 20 economies may scale back a robust pledge for their governments to combat climate change, ceding efforts to the private sector.
Citing “scarce public resources,” the ministers said they would encourage multilateral development banks to raise private funds to accomplish goals set under the 2015 Paris climate accord, according to a preliminary statement drafted for a meeting that will be held in Germany next week.
The statement, obtained by Bloomberg News, is a significant departure from a communique issued in July, when finance ministers urged governments to quickly implement the Paris Agreement, including a call for wealthy nations to make good on commitments to mobilize $100 billion annually to cut greenhouse gases around the globe.
“It basically says governments are irrelevant. It’s complete faith in the magic of the marketplace,” John Kirton, director of the University of Toronto’s G-20 Research Group, said in an interview. “That is very different from the existing commitments they have repeatedly made.”
Mnuchin’s Debut
The shift in tone comes as U.S. President Donald Trump’s Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, prepares for his first G-20 meeting, scheduled for March 17 to 18 in the spa town of Baden-Baden. While European nations including Germany have been at the forefront of combating global warming, Trump has called climate change a hoax.
The Republican president vowed during his campaign to “cancel” the Paris agreement but has said little about the deal since taking office. His cabinet members, meanwhile, have sent mixed signals. U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the U.S. should keep a seat at the table for international climate talks. Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, on Thursday expressed doubt that humans were to blame for global warming and called the Paris agreement a “bad deal” for the U.S.
Several leaders of G-20 nations have expressed strong support for combating climate change and upholding the Paris accord since Trump’s election, including China and the U.K. The annual summit of G-20 heads of state is scheduled for July in Hamburg. It’s unclear what countries pushed for the new language in the finance ministers’ draft statement, which is likely to undergo revisions before being formally adopted.
The most notable element of the draft is what’s missing. The statement issued after the G-20 finance ministers and central bank governors meeting in July dedicated 163 words to the Paris Agreement, pushing nations to bring the deal into force, meet emissions targets and fulfill financial pledges. This current draft dedicates just 47 words to the agreement, focusing exclusively on development banks raising private funds, without mentioning government financial support.
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Agenda 21 is no agenda 2030. Does any of this sound familiar. It should. It sounds a lot like what Obama was doing and had the EPA doing. Scot Pruitt has shut down the social justice department that existed within the EPA. I didn’t even know they had such a thing.
Now Pushing U.N. Agenda 2030 with Social Engineering of the Elderly
http://canadafreepress.com/article/now-pushing-u.n.-agenda-2030-with-social-engineering-of-the-elderly
U.N. Agenda 2030 goals and recommendations include several types of social engineering:
Redistribution of population according to resources, a type of social engineering that includes removing any borders around the globe
Government control of land use in order to achieve equitable distribution of resource, hence the social justice movement around the globe
Land use control through zoning and planning
Government control of excessive profits from land use
Urban and rural land control through public land ownership
Regionalist authorities in control of development rights, superseding local and state government authority
U.N. Agenda 2030 aims to control:
Energy production, delivery, distribution, and consumption via Smart Grid, Smart Meters, and renewables
Food growth via FDA regulations
Education via a curriculum centered on the environment, Mother Earth, and global citizenship
Water through irrigation denial in agriculture, home use, recreation, limited hydroelectric generation
Land through abolishing private property
Finance through a single currency
Population by reducing it to “manageable levels” through sterilization and eugenics
No borders, no sovereignty
No national language and culture, no national history
Mobility restriction to 5-minute walk/bike to/from work, school, shopping, entertainment
Longer distance travel via rail use
No homesteading, stacking people in high-rise mixed-use tenements in order to designate formerly privately-owned land for wildlife habitat
Going back on a ‘robust pledge?’ Damn, you just can’t trust anyone anymore.
The Trump Effect is going to save the U.S. a lot of money.
Get on board the Trump Train and you can save money, too.
The members of the G20 may not want to get on the Trump Train but what else can they do? Trump says the U.S. isn’t forking over the U.S. taxpayer’s money for foolish CAGW projects, so it’s time for Plan B. They had been counting on the U.S. largesse to fund their CAGW delusions. It’s not going to happen now.
…You do realize that Obama DOUBLED the U.S. debt of ALL previous President\s before him….Liberals are in no position to complain about debt !
Engar: you will be amazed, then, how Trump will save money and grow the economy. The downside for you, though is you will not be happy how this will be done. The economy has only been a zero sum game for the last 20 yeas or so. It didn’t used to be in saner times, but Millennials don’t have any experience with this. We could divert some of the economy to build millions of ‘safe places’ for many of you, but being old style, I would recommend let the tears flow, it’s good for y’all and you will pee less.
Engar, I’m talking about hundreds of billions that will be cut from bloat and the new economic growth that will follow scuttling all the “Agenda” regulations, redundancies (there are about a dozen agencies studying the weather for example). One time expenditures like the “wall” will be paid for by attenuating social expenditures on the millions that WON’T be crowding the system. Trump’s tough no nonsense talk alone about handling illegal immigration has resulted in the flow of illegal dropping by 40% in February! Companies are going to stick around that were going to head for other countries and new companies from Japan and others are coming to the US (abundant cheap energy). A steel industry boost with using US steel (and coal to make it) to be employed in pipelines – teed off the Sioux but they will get jobs out it and all will be forgotton.
I see the thing like this: a plan to save the Nile crocodile won’t be well received by the croc who will be snapping at his saviors asses but once accomplished, the croc will be wearing an even bigger smile. You will be happy, if you can just get over the fact that Trump is a hard guy to love. He’s boorish, he’s anathema to political correctness to a fault, he shoots from the hip before he’s engaged his brain in interviews and tweets. I find this odious, too, and wouldn’t seek a social liaison with such a type, but I don’t let it get in the way of supporting a desperately needed plan (for the world, too – like the illegal immigrants, the EU and China are already to cut back on funding climate action and remember Reagan, just because he got elected was enough for Iran to release all those American hostages before he had set foot in the White house). All but the sorest of political losers will come on board eventually. He will win the popular vote + next time. A quotable quote of Trump: “I don’t do defeats.” This beautiful and true quote won’t make it into the quote lists because it is Trumps, but I like it a lot.
@Gary Young Pearse 7:25 pm
“… the popular vote …”
In 1960 the NY Yankees and the Pittsburgh Pirates met in the World Series of Baseball.
The score (you can look it up) was about NY = 55 runs, Pirates = 27 runs. (This past year the 2 teams (can’t remember them) each scored 27 runs. They tied, right? Wrong.
So the Yankees took the “popular vote” and lost the Series.
In baseball the rules are well known — games count. In the US election the rules are well known — States count.
Trump and Clinton played by those rules — and Trump won. End of story.
The “popular vote” of which you wrote is meaningless.
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/58814485f10a9a6d008b926f-1200
Butch wasn’t claiming otherwise. He was just saying that the mob vote is more likely to match the real vote in 2020.
Now that’s a real hockey stick. 😐
“Trump will not “save” any money. He will increase spending on the military. He will increase spending on his “wall.” He will spend a trillion on infrastructure. In addition to all of his spending, he’s going to cut taxes at the same time. How can this happen?”
Trump will increase spending on the military. A $54 billion increase is the current figure, and he will spend on the wall and on infrastructure, but I read a headline yesterday claiming Trump’s policies have already reduced the debt by $68 billion, although I didn’t see the details.
Illegal aliens cost the U.S. approximately $100 billion per year. Since Trump started cracking down on the southern border, illegal entries into the U.S. have decreased by 40 percent in the last month, so reducing illegal immigration will add up to big bucks in the future for the U.S.
The U.S. currently runs an $80 billion per year trade deficit with Mexico. If Trump reduces that by half, he has added $40 billion to the U.S. economy. If he makes it a completely fair trade, he adds $80 billion per year to the U.S. economy that would have gone to Mexico instead.
When you cut taxes, revenues to the government increase because economic activity increases. This concept goes completely over the heads of Democrats.
Trump is also a pretty good budget manager. He has already saved $2 billion on the new Presidential jets, and about the same amount on the F-35 fighter jet contract. And there are literally billions of dollars of waste, fra-ud and abuse in the government he can cut.
Trump’s infrastructure plan will incorporate some of the TRILLIONS of dollars American companies are keeping overseas because American taxes are too high. Once Trump lowers these taxes, this huge amount of money will come into the U.S. Trump also plans on financing the infrastructure with public/private funds so it won’t all be on the taxpayers.
Got to love Trump. He just keeps on going, getting things down, while the entire power structure of the world tries to tear him (and us) down.
Like most leftists, engar believes what he is told to believe.
You would think that given the huge competitiveness of sustainables the G20 will unleash their power to cripple the US economy through industrial grunt. ( yeh Right)
Why not just ensure that the alternatives are given a fair chance against fossil fuels without subsidies or mandates.
My view is that the government as usual has no power at predicting the future and may in fact be better at predicting what will not happen in the future.
Friends:
Judith Curry has made an excellent analysis of what Pruitt actually said and how it has been reported by the media, and she has posted it on her blog here.
Richard
Richard
Good to see you back in action!
Here’s an example of the kind of “climate change” to expect in the next few decades:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/24/drastic-cooling-north-atlantic-beyond-worst-fears-scientists-warn
(Not from the source you would expect.)
Yes… because climate change is exactly that, not a gentle increase of a few degrees on temps across the globe.
Is that what the Sorting Hat told you, Gryff?
No, that would be “global warming”. You can’t even keep your own ideological terms straight.
More lies from the Guardian, Skanky?
Tell us, have you apologised to Dr. Crockford for trying to damage her professional reputation yet, you obnoxious little paid character assassin?
At least we might get white Christmases again in Western Europe ☃️
Do these researchers have plans to update their assessment of the probability of this Sea of Labrador cooling, every year or so?
Bindidon
Yes there are contrary views but I remain a believer in traditional oceanography and established phenomena such as the Gulf Stream and AMOC. Also on the “salinity feedback” described here:
http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/abrupt-climate-change-during-the-last-ice-24288097
My own take on this is that a positive feedback in a complex dissipative system like AMOC will introduce chaotic oscillation – just like the D-O excursions during the last glacial period. A milder version of the same oscillation, based on the salinity feedback, could be behind the AMO. Feedback accelerated Gulf Stream warms Northern Europe but entrains Greenland ice melt which eventually inhibits the deep water formation leading to counter-stroke slackening of the Gulf Stream. Then repeat.
Yes.because cooling is the worst possible fear for the Warmistas.
ptolemy2 on March 11, 2017 at 10:54 pm
Here’s an example of the kind of “climate change” to expect in the next few decades…
Rien de nouveau à l’Ouest!
Such thoughts were developed by NOAA oceanographers at the end of the 1990ies, but were heavily criticised by many skeptics inbetween.
They doubt among other matters that salinity is a crucial factor here. Other think hat the Gulf Stream or even THC as a whole might be totally overestimated.
Bindidon
I replied but it went about 3 posts upstream by mistake.
ptolemy2 on March 12, 2017 at 1:28 pm
Thanks for the answer, I too was very impressed by this abrupt climate change theory.
But no Gulf Stream would imho ever be able to produce such a melt on Greenlands inlandsis as is actually on the road.
Question if you knew you actions could save on life in the future would you do them even if that meant you not get paid ?
Well hear we have what is claimed to be the ‘most important event ever ‘ and one where there is ‘no time to lose ‘ with a claimed impact on ten or even hundreds of millions . And yet without a pay cheque , and a very nice one at that , being attached our planet saving heroes don’t want to know , strange that !
Leaving our glorious Boy Wonder looking foolish again. He’s already given away C$2.5billion to this scam.
Oh I can’t stand that guy.
You mean we’re not going to keep throwing this expense onto the global debt pile? We’ll see.
if we come to agree its been a Trillion dollar scam, next step will be to identify the main scamsters then sue them, and claw the money back.
“Climate is what we expect; weather is what we get.” Robert A Heinlein.
Love the Heinlein quote!
There are no continual thermometer records to prove warming. The one chart is from Central England going back to 1659 and it shows no warming.
Climate “Science” on Trial; Temperature Records Don’t Support NASA GISS
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/climate-science-on-trial-temperature-records-dont-support-nasa-giss/
Of course China supports the Paris climate accord strongly. It has a free rein to increase emissions at will until 2030.
One thing I do not see covered about our President is the cost of energy. He has owned some big casinos and in Vegas the amount of lighting they use boggles the mind.. Even the huge lights in the casinos cause so much heat that must be removed. Trump can see in seconds how these novel schemes to produce electric are unreliable and drive up prices. For the past 8 years I have not heard a peep about driving prices down.
That is the true test of political power. It is the command and control of the volume controls and topic selection for a Party that controls 90 percent of the media message.