Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball
Emotionally, it is almost impossible to walk a mile in another person’s shoes. It is particularly true when the other person is of a different sex. I say this because I believe a climate science story that must be told is the degree of difference in nastiness directed at those who questioned the prevailing AGW wisdom. People who have not experienced it cannot imagine how vile and intimidating it gets, although there are some hints in the “Comments” section of articles on WUWT. It would be worse without a moderator, but even then, you would not see the type of material sent to an individual. What is more disturbing for me, is that the intensity and nastiness are even higher for some than others.
I think there are ways that a person can get a sense of the experience of another’s shoes, but it is only a sense. For example, as a young boy I delivered newspapers and on one occasion was attacked by a large dog. Since then I have been afraid of large dogs, and that has influenced my life because I walk every day, but avoid areas where I know there are large dogs. The outrage is that the dog owners are influencing my life without even being aware of it. For this reason, whenever women hold a “take back the night” event to protest having their freedom of movement limited by unknowing people I provide complete support. It does not put me in their shoes but does give me a sense of their anger and frustration.
I am explaining this because of the experiences of two women involved in the climate debate, Judith Curry, and Sallie Baliunas. I have not spoken with either woman about this column. I also suspect they would not approve, but in a way that is the problem. They know that complaints are automatically considered self-serving, a sign of weakness, and all the other epithets in our society. Judith Curry wrote about why she abandoned climate science in eloquent words but, in my opinion, because of the societal situation, they were restrained and non-accusatory.
I cannot walk a mile in her shoes as a male climate skeptic of longstanding, but, like my dog experience, I have an awareness. I am writing this column because, as a male I am ashamed of the behaviour of too many other males, but also because most would not even know what was and is going on. I watched from a close and better informed vantage point what these women experienced. What happened to them is symptomized by a man, some argue George Bernard Shaw fits the pattern, who was both a misanthrope and a misogynist. This fascinates me because if you hate everybody doesn’t that include women? Apparently, they hate everyone, but really hate women. It is shameful for society in general, but especially in science, where open, completely unfettered, discourse must occur.
The level of animosity and nastiness in debates and discussions is a symptom of the collapse of civility, and that can presage a collapse of civilization. I watched the level of animosity increase as the level of civility declined at climate conferences. It quickly reached a point where conferences were either AGW or Skeptics conferences and then, because of political interference, there were very few of the latter. Therefore, the first Heartland Climate Conference in New York in 2009 was so significant. It was the first major international skeptics conference and valuable for that, but also underlines a scientific divide that should not exist.
Judith Curry and Sallie Baliunas crossed that divide. Curry was working on the AGW approach as chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. In the interests of proper, balanced, open, science Curry invited Steve McIntyre to make a presentation explaining his side of the ‘hockey sick’ story. I could have told her what would happen because the nastiest attacks I ever received were from department colleagues: this included a three-page letter that a lawyer deemed libelous. They also deliberately made work and advancement difficult because they controlled promotion, tenure and all aspects of my career. To my knowledge, I remain today the person longest in rank as an Assistant Professor in the history of Canadian universities. My final promotion to full Professor was only achieved after a direct appeal, with evidence, to the University President. Some of this is explained by Sayre’s law that says,
“Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low.”
I know academic politics are the nastiest because I was in the military, worked in private industry, and worked for a civilian government. What happened to those who were openly climate skeptics reached another level altogether. Curry and Baliunas were two people who experienced this, but from what I observed, at another level again.
Judith Curry provided a very open and reasoned explanation for choosing to step aside from mainstream academia. Here are some quotes;
“A deciding factor was that I no longer know what to say to students and postdocs regarding how to navigate the CRAZINESS in the field of climate science. Research and other professional activities are professionally rewarded only if they are channeled in certain directions approved by a politicized academic establishment — funding, ease of getting your papers published, getting hired in prestigious positions, appointments to prestigious committees and boards, professional recognition, etc.”
“How young scientists are to navigate all this is beyond me, and it often becomes a battle of scientific integrity versus career suicide (I have worked through these issues with a number of skeptical young scientists).”
“At this point, the private sector seems like a more ‘honest’ place for a scientist working in a politicized field than universities or government labs — at least when you are your own boss.”
Based on my experience this was a tempered, reasonable effort that only speaks to the technical and bureaucratic frustrations and shows concern for the students. However, there is a hint of the hurt and anguish about a forced change in career path and a glimmer of the hostile environment in the workplace. The fact that Curry, a clearly private person, decided to ‘retire’ publically speaks volumes. The fact that any academic is forced so far outside their comfort zone speaks volumes about what was going on in climate science and academia should give us all pause, but there is more to it than that,
I don’t think Curry was aware of or could have known, what happened to Sallie Baliunas. The main reason is that Baliunas completely and very quietly withdrew from research and academia and, as I understand, retired to the countryside. I discovered what went on because of our mutual attempts to help people understand the great climate deception. Occasionally over the years, people contacted me after investigating the work of the IPCC. They experience what happened to Klaus-Eckart Puls.
I became outraged when I discovered that much of what the IPCC and the media were telling us was sheer nonsense and was not even supported by any scientific facts and measurements.
These people were so shocked that they sought out someone to confirm that what they found was true. In the case of Albert Jacobs and the people that became the Friends of Science, they approached Sallie Baliunas and me. We both provided as many answers and as much help as possible. One day Albert advised me that they were unable to contact Sallie. I finally contacted Willie Soon, another severely beleaguered skeptic, because he was a colleague who published with Sallie when she worked as an astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. Her career also included a period as Deputy Director of the Mount Wilson Observatory. Besides the FOS contacts, I was pleased to work briefly with Sallie on the historical relationships between climate, crops, ergot fungus poisoning and witchcraft. I like to think that Sallie’s study of witchcraft gave her insight into the persecution of people, especially women, through the exploitation of hysteria and false information. Sallie very quietly disappeared into the good night, but what happened before that helps understand why.
One of the biggest challenges to the AGW deception was the Medieval Warm Period (MWP). David Deming testified before Congress on the threat it was to their narrative. Baliunas and Soon produced an excellent paper from a multitude of sources that confirmed the existence of the MWP. Michael Mann got rid of the MWP with his production of the ‘hockey stick,’ but Soon and Baliunas were another problem. What better than to have a powerful placed academic destroy their credibility for you? Sadly, there are always people who will do the dirty work. Here is how I described what went on in my book The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science.
“A perfect person and opportunity appeared. On 16th October 2003 Michael Mann sent an email to people involved in the CRU scandal;
Dear All,
Thought you would be interested in this exchange, which John Holdren of Harvard has been kind enough to pass along…
At the time, Holdren was Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy & Director, Program in Science, Technology, & Public Policy, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, John F. Kennedy School of Government. Later he became Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President (Obama) for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology—informally known as the United States Science Czar.
In an email on October 16, 2003, from John Holdren to Michael Mann and Tom Wigley we’re told:
I’m forwarding for your entertainment an exchange that followed from my being quoted in the Harvard Crimson to the effect that you and your colleagues are right and my “Harvard” colleagues Soon and Baliunas are wrong about what the evidence shows concerning surface temperatures over the past millennium. The cover note to faculty and postdocs in a regular Wednesday breakfast discussion group on environmental science and public policy in Harvard’s Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences is more or less self-explanatory.
This is what Holdren sent to the Wednesday Breakfast group:
I append here an e-mail correspondence I have engaged in over the past few days trying to educate a Soon/Baliunas supporter who originally wrote to me asking how I could think that Soon and Baliunas are wrong and Mann et al. are right (a view attributed to me, correctly, in the Harvard Crimson). This individual apparently runs a web site on which he had been touting the Soon/Baliunas position.
The exchange Holdren refers to is a challenge by Nick Schulz editor of Tech Central Station (TCS). On August 9, 2003, Schulz wrote:
In a recent Crimson story on the work of Soon and Baliunas, who have written for my website, you are quoted as saying: My impression is that the critics are right. It is unfortunate that so much attention is paid to a flawed analysis, but that’s what happens when something happens to support the political climate in Washington. Do you feel the same way about the work of Mann et. al.? If not why not?
Holdren provides lengthy responses on October 13, 14, and 16th, but his comments fail to answer Schulz’s questions. After the first response Schulz replies:
I guess my problem concerns what lawyers call the burden of proof. The burden weighs heavily much more heavily, given the claims on Mann et.al. than it does on Soon/Baliunas. Would you agree?
Of course, Holdren doesn’t agree. He replies:
But, in practice, burden of proof is an evolving thing—it evolves as the amount of evidence relevant to a particular proposition grows.
No, it doesn’t evolve; it is either on one side or the other. This argument is in line with what has happened with AGW. He then demonstrates his lack of understanding of science and climate science by opting for Mann and his hockey stick over Soon and Baliunas. His entire defense and position devolve to a political position. His attempt to belittle Soon and Baliunas in front of colleagues is a sad measure of the man’s character.
Schulz provides a solid summary when he writes:
I’ll close by saying I’m willing to admit that, as someone lacking a PhD, I could be punching above my weight. But I will ask you a different but related question. How much hope is there for reaching reasonable public policy decisions that affect the lives of millions if the science upon which those decisions must be made is said to be by definition beyond the reach of those people?
We now know they deliberately placed it beyond the reach of the people and restricted it to the group that he used to ridicule Soon and Baliunas.”
I attended a conference about a controversial issue a few years ago at which the debate became increasingly personal and nasty. The Chairperson acted properly by interrupting and saying; “People, please, we can disagree, but we don’t have to be disagreeable.” The level of debate on the claim of anthropogenic global warming went far beyond being disagreeable, but there was no chairperson to call a halt. Why are personal attacks so vicious when the subject is as innocuous as weather and climate? What do lawsuits have to do with learning, research, or science? Why were the attacks so nasty that they drove two superbly qualified women to the sidelines?
One of many incorrect statements made in the global warming/climate change debate was that the science is settled. Ironically, those who said it did more to be disagreeable than anyone. The nastiness began and increased as evidence continued to emerge showing the science wasn’t settled. In response to the question reportedly posed by John Maynard Keynes,
“When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do sir?
Clearly, if you are unprepared to change your mind, you are forced to increasingly nasty, uncivil behavior. It is a manifestation of the idea that if the end is the sole objective, it justifies any means. It is no coincidence that this is a central theme of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.
“But, in practice, burden of proof is an evolving thing—it evolves as the amount of evidence relevant to a particular proposition grows.”
The beguiling pseudo-intellectual velvet glove covering the emotional iron fist of ‘the science is settled’ and cop that Holocaust deniers. I’ll keep my distance thanks.
On the contrary, I think you have almost hit the nail on the head.
You have I feel correctly identified that it is into the space left when ‘God Died’ that a lot of nonsense has been poured.
However that doesn’t mean in my book we should resurrect God. We need something to fill that space and political correctness ain’t it, but no more is e.g. Radical Islam or fundamental Christianity.
My question to you, which was an answer to devout friend of mine who said that ‘prayer worked’, was :
“Sure, but isn’t the point really that prayer works and society works if one behaves AS IF God existed without it actually being in any way necessary that He does?”
Wasn’t it the left which coined the terms ‘denier’ to describe rational people, ‘carbon’ to describe carbon dioxide, ‘climate change’ to describe global warming …. and proudly uses them all?
I was left wondering what happened to Sallie Baliunas having been prepared for something that apparently wasn’t known. Did I miss something?
I do not understand your post.
Courtney: But it is NOT a “science question” any longer. Reputable science has demonstrated that CAGW is a failed hypothesis. It is now a POLITICAL question, and has been for some time.
Ask the warmers if they have ever considered that they might be wrong, even for a second.
Where is the proof that climate “science” is based on science? It’s not based on thermodynamics which should be a natural base for it. Rather it is based on dubious statistics and even more dubious computer models which are then used as inputs in even more dubious statistical models.
True scientists argue by running experiments with clearly defined rules about how to replicate those experiments to either prove or disprove the results. Climate “science” relies on consensus, bullying, data manipulation, extreme efforts to deny replication, vanishing data and self destructing computers.
Nothing in climate “science” will ever approach what Maxwell and Hertz did for electromagnetism or the modern day discovery of gravitational waves.
Maxwell used pure mathematics to formulate the laws of electromagnetism. Hertz used these laws to create physical experiments to demonstrate their truth. Every time you use a cell phone, you demonstrate the truth behind the science.
Every single part of the cell phone including the software follows either well proven mathematical principles or well established physical facts supported by numerous, replicable experiments.
Nothing in climate science is supported by mathematics, results are not reproducible or robust. Science can send a probe on a years long voyage to a tiny rock in the vastness of space. Climate science can might be able to predict weather two or three days in advance, but not with any real precision.
There are a multitude of religions and endless, often violent arguments about which, if any, religion is correct. Since there is no rigorous proof that any religion is correct, the endless arguments will continue forever.
It’s the same with climate “science”. Without a basis in mathematics and no basis in established scientific facts like the laws of thermodynamics, just like religion there will be endless, violent arguments with no possibility of ever discovering the truth.
There aren’t two sides to the argument, there are three. True believers, deniers and the third who are wondering what the hell everybody is arguing about.
Use caution and a [big] grain of salt when it comes to describing hate and politics/ideology. A significant platform of the Left is that of victim-hood and blame-throwing. There are elements of the Left that feel that it is their duty (to the ’cause’ or whatever) to promote this platform at all costs. Even if that means attacking their fellow Leftists anonymously. As it has been demonstrated again and again, the perpetrators of the worst attacks have overwhelmingly been peoples of their own ilk. The benefits being to smear the opposition and elevate the platform of victim-hood.
At least so far, heretics are burned at the stake today in a different fashion. Some of have called for heretics to be jailed, and considering the 20th century record of the left re-education labour camps could also be on the menu.
As far as AGW / Climate Change / Warming-Cooling-name-du-jour is concerned, it’s always BEEN about the money and it will always BE about the money.
The worst part about this is that governments, who don’t give a rat’s behind whether Climate Change proponents are correct or not, have found a cash cow in Climate Change and they are not about to give that up.
To justify those added taxes – such as the “carbon” tax – those governments will keep on pounding the message that “Oh, yes, those scientists know what they’re talking about” and give those scientists more money, who, of course, are quite happy to get that money and then give the governments the answer the governments are looking for.
As was commented earlier here, FOLLOW THE MONEY.
The average temperature of the Earth is 22.34567890123 degrees. Prove me wrong.
You forgot to mention +/- 1.0 degrees
I never criticize a man until I’ve walked a mile in his shoes. That way, when I do criticize him, I’m a mile away, and I’ve got his shoes.
— Jack Handey
A full Sunday of thought provoking reading thanks to Dr. Ball’s post and all the excellent comments. My heart bleeds for Judith Curry, Sallie Baliunas, Willie Soon and so many others whose lives have been adversely impacted because their science has been hi-jacked by politics and the quest for a biased system of granting billions of research dollars. The Republican/Trump control of the U.S. Federal Government for the next four years hopefully will be much to take the science back from the politicians and the huge research grants they control. Cross your fingers.
“Why are personal attacks so vicious when the subject is as innocuous as weather and climate?” Because the topic isn’t really the weather and climate, it’s CO2 emissions. If the anti CO2 emissions gang left the room climate science could become a helpful scientific discipline like it should be.
The topic is actually something else altogether. Its about a whole structure and systems of belief about humanity, society, politics and man’s relationship, or lack of it, with the world and with a God who no longer seems feasible.
Climate change is just a way of creating a useful superstition about mankind’s Fall from Eden-like innocence into the guilty sin of destroying Paradise with Science, Thinking, Technology and Intelligence.
It is part of the parable written by the Left for people who never grew up.
Well, try commenting on a skeptic website in support of climate science.
I find that of the ones which don’t automatically censor non-skeptic views (Breitbart, Paul Homewood) I get only abuse in return for posting a link to a piece of science which contradicts the commenter.
This site is a general exception to that rule, I should add, but a rare one.
Remove the beam from your own eyes…
When you re-post the same disproven lies over and over again, you can expect abuse.
So lying MarkW should expect this.
Griff and MarkW are different sides of the same fake news coin. They believe that it must be true if they read it internet. The truth is not an a matter of opinion.
Making electricity with nuclear reactors put me in the category of those who can do. How do I know what is true? Truth is based on measurements with calibrated instruments providing evidence. When someone is killed, there is an investigation and evidence is collected. Those who ‘can’ mist attend safety meeting. For example, a worker fell to his death because an engineer made a mistake on a calculation for a temporary work platform.
If you are a college professor you can claim people are killed based on a weak theory and model. I look for the evidence, there is no evidence.
I know some here think I am unfair to college professors. I hold them to a higher standard. If you have demonstrated the intelligence to get an advance degree, you should be smart enough to tell the truth.
I could be wrong. Maybe the advance degree only shows you know how to be politically correct and tell your committee what they want to hear.
“…on one occasion was attacked by a large dog. Since then I have been afraid of large dogs…”
Depends on how you deal with it. I carry a canister of pepper spray. Used it, once, against an aggressive pit bull. Works quite well.
I love dogs. Dogs are good people. Although, like people, some dogs can be mentally disturbed.
I had four pitbull dogs once, two females and two males, inside a six-foot-tall chainlink fence all around my house. One night the two males got into a fight (a father and his son) over the females, and I went out and tried to separate them. The two females had started fighting each other too, when the males started in.
I have my yard sectioned off into several separate areas, and I managed to drag both females, while they are fighting, over to the gate, and managed to get them separated long enough to shove one through the gate and shut it, which stopped the females from fighting.
And then I went to separate the males and you talk about a wrestling match! I had one pitbull in one hand and the other in my other hand and I could manage to get them separated about a foot or so, but then they would lunge back together and continue fighting. So after doing this about five times, I decided I had to change my method and I went and got some chain and I fastened it around one of the males neck and dragged both of them over by the fence post and tied the one dog to the post, and then I was able to use both hands to pull the big male off the other one and drag him across the yard far enough away where I could chain him down safely, too.
What I found notable was that none of the four pitbulls attempted to bite me at any time during all this vicious biting and fighting, which probably lasted at least ten minutes, and it was scary, but no bites to me. I even stuck my entire forearm in my big pitbull dog’s mouth at one time and he would not bite down on it.
I had to separate the four dogs after that and kept one male and one female in the backyard, and one male and one female in the front yard. They got along that way, but it was sad to me that they had to be separated for the rest of their lives like that. They were good dogs.
I only have two now, neither of which are pits.
And the reason they didn’t bite me is probably because I raised them all from pups. It’s not a good idea to jump in the middle of dog fights. Even those you know. 🙂 But everything worked out.