The timing of interglacials

By Andy May

P. C. Tzedakis and co-authors have just published a new paper in the February 23, 2017 issue of Nature entitled “A simple rule to determine which insolation cycles lead to interglacials.” The paper introduces new rules for defining interglacial periods in the geological record. They come up with the same interglacial periods that Javier identified in his post Nature Unbound I: The Glacial Cycle.

The Earth has been in an ice age for the last 2.6 million years, Javier defined an ice age as:

“… any period when there are extensive ice sheets over vast land regions, as we see now.”

Tzedakis, et al. note that

“The fundamental property that underlies the concept of an interglacial is high sea-level.”

The higher sea-level is a result of melting a significant amount of land-ice during the interglacial. We are currently in the “Quaternary Ice Age,” which is either the coldest or the second coldest period in the last 500 million years as can be seen in figures 1 and 2. These are the most popular temperature reconstructions of the past 540 million years. Ice ages (or a collection of closely spaced continental glacial periods) have occurred in the geological record roughly every 150 million years in the Phanerozoic. The cause of these cold periods is not known, but we are clearly in one now.

Figure 1, source Veizer, et al., 1999 and Wikipedia

Figure 2, Phanerozoic temperatures, source Geocraft

The current (Quaternary) ice age is punctuated by warm periods, called interglacials. These warm periods are identified in the geological record by rising sea level. They persist for about 15,000 years on average and are typically 4° to 5°C warmer than the preceding glacial period, with the difference much larger at the poles than at the equator. Glacial periods are much longer than interglacials, and are the norm for the Quaternary, the warm interglacials are the anomaly. As discussed in Nature Unbound I and in Tzedakis, et al., 2017, we have had 13 interglacial periods in the past one million years. These are identified with red bars in Figure 3 (Javier’s figure 12).

Figure 3, Orbital obliquity increases, which correlate to July insolation peaks at 65°N, are colored. Red identifies successful interglacials and blue identifies a failure. The labels are MIS numbers. Low late-glacial temperatures (red circles below the blue dashed line) stimulate interglacials. High insolation at 65°N, the green circles above the green dashed line also stimulate interglacials. MIS 13 is an anomaly. Source Nature Unbound I.

The same interglacials are identified, with slightly different nomenclature, in figure 2 (our figure 4) of Tzedakis et al. The numbers in figure 3 and across the top of figure 4 are the Marine Isotope Stage (MIS) number, the odd numbers refer to “interstadials” which are warmer periods, separating the even numbered “stadials” or cooler periods. Notice that both Tzedakis et al. and Javier find more than one interglacial in MIS 7 and 15. We are currently living in MIS 1. Some interstadials are significant enough (as judged by the rise in sea level) to be labeled interglacials and some are not. One of the problems in Quaternary geology is how to objectively tell a true interglacial period from a common interstadial. Javier and Tzedakis, et al. have different criteria, but come to very similar conclusions.

Figure 4, Obliquity peaks are shaded in gray, the black line is the caloric summer half-year insolation at 65°N, the red circles are insolation maxima nearest the onset of interglacials, black diamonds are continued interglacials, light blue triangles are failed interstadials. The orange line is the δ18O stack representing temperature. The upper numbers are MIS numbers for interglacials and the lower are kyrs (thousands of years) before present or the number of a continued interglacial or a failed interstadial. The “Mid-Pleistocene Transition” toward lower-frequency higher-amplitude glacial cycles is apparent near MIS 38/37. Source Tzedakis, et al., Nature, 2017.

Javier’s methodology for identifying interglacials begins with locating every period of rising obliquity which creates a window that can initiate an interglacial. Fewer than half of these periods results in an interglacial. Next, he looks for the periods where summer insolation at 65°N exceeds 550 W/m2 and where the temperature of the preceding glacial period is below 4.55 0/00 δ18O. δ18O is a common proxy for atmospheric temperature because the colder it gets, the less 18O is found in glacier ice . The boundaries and the resulting classification are shown in figure 3.

Tzedakis (2017) uses a different methodology that results in the same set of interglacials for the past one million years. The methodology is summarized in figure 5.

Figure 5: Temperature peaks for the last 2.6 million years separated into successful interglacials (red dots), failed interglacials (blue diamonds), continued interglacials (black diamonds) and uncertain assignments (open symbols). The dashed black line separates successful interglacials from unsuccessful interstadials with only two misclassifications (59 and 63). The ramp in the dashed line is the “mid-Pleistocene transition.” Source: Tzedakis, et al., 2017.

Figure 5 plots effective energy required to cause an interglacial versus time. As can be seen more effective energy is required to initiate an interglacial over the past 600,000 years than before 1.5 million years. In figure 4, interglacials (red dots) were more frequent and more regular before 1.5 million years ago, when they corresponded to the obliquity cycle of 41,000 years. Peak summer solstice insolation at 65°N is a function of the 21,000-year precession cycle. But, rising obliquity enhances the “caloric half-year insolation at 65°N” which is more relevant to ice loss. Prior to 1.5 million years ago, every other insolation peak at 65°N was boosted by increasing obliquity and an interglacial would occur. The idea of “caloric summer half-year insolation” originated with Milanković.

More recent interglacials occur about 100,000 years apart, meaning more insolation peaks are skipped now than before 1.5 million years ago. Thus, recent glacial periods are longer now and average ice volume is larger today than in the past. The ramp between the two horizontal lines is the mid-Pleistocene transition (MPT). Effective energy is computed using equation one from Tzedakis, et al., 2017. It is computed using the caloric summer half-year insolation peak at 65°N in (GJ/m2) and the time since the previous interglacial period. Tzedakis, et al. explain including the time since the previous interglacial in terms of ice stability. That is, the longer the ice has existed and the thicker it is the more unstable it is.

Why current interglacials require more effective energy to initiate is not known. Tzedakis, et al. list several possible reasons, but do not offer a preferred theory. Why current glacial periods are more severe today than prior to 1.5 million years ago, is also not known.

Clark, et al. 2006 have noted that the severity of glacial periods and the total land-ice volume increased dramatically after the mid-Pleistocene transition. The additional land-ice present now, versus before the MPT, represents a decrease of 50 meters of sea-level equivalent. While land-ice volume increased after the MPT, the area covered with ice did not, suggesting that average land-ice thickness increased. Clark, et al. (2006) also estimate a decrease in in global deep-water ocean temperature of 1.2°C currently, relative to the pre-MPT period of 41,000 year glaciations. Thus, we are not only in a major ice-age, we are also in the coldest part of the current ice age.

So, although Javier and Tzedakis, et al. used different criteria they did identify the same interglacials for the past million years. Tzedakis et al.’s method is able to classify all but two interglacials correctly for the past 2.6 million years and their method only uses orbital forcing and elapsed time as input. This last point is important as they found no need to incorporate either CO2 concentration or δ18O records. This suggests that glaciations are caused solely by astronomical forcing, although the reason for the MPT is unclear. Tzedakis, et al. is also important because they seem to have resolved most, if not all, outstanding problems with the original Milanković theory.

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Robert Sheaffer
February 28, 2017 1:07 pm

This cycle has ended. Bill Nye told Tucker Carlson last night that there will never again be an ice age, because of Global Warming.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/27/tucker-carlson-and-bill-nye-science-guy-clash-climate-change

Brad
February 28, 2017 1:09 pm

How do you have glacial ice to measure 18O from an interglacial period?

Bruce Cobb
February 28, 2017 1:09 pm

None of this matters now, because we are in the Anthropocene. We humans are now in control of the climate. Amazing, innit.

February 28, 2017 1:10 pm

i wonder how the energy aspect ties into worldwide historical evidence that the orbit used to take 360 days

Resourceguy
February 28, 2017 1:16 pm

It’s actually the Nyeocene where Party objectives and presentation style matter much more than objectivity.

Gloateus Maximus
February 28, 2017 1:17 pm

Changing the definition of scientific terms to suit an hypothesis is anti-scientific. To count as interglacials, warm interval should be separated by glacial phases. Double peak interglacials are the same interglacial unless at least 40,000 years of ice sheet advance intervenes.

Also, by the definition of “any period when there are extensive ice sheets over vast land regions, as we see now”, earth has been in an ice age for 34 million years, not just 2.6 million. That is an unjustifiably Northern Hemispherocentric view. Ice sheets extended over Antarctica from the Oligocene Epoch, long before the Plestocene glaciation of the NH.

Tom Halla
February 28, 2017 1:22 pm

Good review article.

James J Strom
February 28, 2017 1:29 pm

Looking at one of the graph lines in figure two, I believe I see some active geoengineering in our future–CO2 supplementation

February 28, 2017 1:36 pm

Last paragraph of post is interesting if true. The data is quite noisy. Lack of explanation for the MPT and the sharper transition from ~41ky to ~100ky glacials suggest that there must be more to the story. One possibility is the glacial dust hypothesis changing albedo. Also need to look at oceans. Bering and Sundra straits become dry land during a glacial. Dogger bank connected Britain to Europe so English Channel was closed. I think we dunno, and an exercise in mostly peak fitting may not suffice .

Knutsen
February 28, 2017 1:38 pm

Svensmark and Shaviv have a hypotesis about why there are more iceages the last couple of million years. More cosmic rays and more cloud cover and therfore colder, because we are inside a small spiral arm of the Milkyway.

Ed Zuiderwijk
February 28, 2017 1:49 pm

‘The cause of these cold periods is unkown’. No it isn’t. It’s having a landmass at one or both poles which allows ice to accumulate and thus affect the albedo of the planet .

dscott
February 28, 2017 1:52 pm

A friendly reminder: EVERY ice age interstadial and interglacial without exception ended when obliquity dropped below 23.5 degrees…NO EXCEPTIONS. You have been warned.

James VanWinkle
February 28, 2017 1:54 pm

Interesting that the two papers come to the same conclusion. What I don’t see is of more interest to me, and that is when does the interglacial end? Or did I miss something in the paper?

February 28, 2017 2:19 pm

Ice age? According to IPCC, sulphur hexafluoride, SF6, is a GHG which is 23900 × more effective than CO2. It is also very inert, so extremely long-lived. Estimated atmospheric lifetime of 800–3200 years. We’d need to add 5 billion tonnes of it to the atmosphere to get 1ppm. That should warm the putative ice age up. The main problem is: mass insanity that would result as millions of greens see red. I’m not sure society could cope with that scale of madness. Here are the IPCC’s other scary GHGs: http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch2s2-10-2.html

February 28, 2017 2:21 pm

North Atlantic configuration has changed in the last 20+ MY with the appearance of Iceland, where the oldest rocks above sea level are estimated to be around 15 MY.
Most recent series of interglacials is more likely to be caused by changes in the intensity of the n> Atlantic currents, while the Milancovic cycles hade role of a ‘trigger mechanism’.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/GSr.gif
The grey area is the Greenland-Scotland ridge, average depth around 300m except for the Denmark Strait (~600m) and Faroes Bank Channel (~800m), the two main thoroughfares for the dense, cold sea-floor waters.
Parts of the ridge are rising due to the postglacial isostatic uplift, and in doing so are more and more obstructing the cold dense sea floor currents outflow from the Arctic basin. Reduced outflow means reduced warm surface water inflow and steady cooling, as it has been the case during the last 7-8 KY.
Since the ocean level rising (due to the ice melting) is slowing down to a standstill, another thousand or two of years of the uplift, the Arctic will again start its refreezing sequence, causing gradual drop in the sea level, with the depth of the two thoroughfares further decreasing, the result is the end to the current interlacial. Polar jet stream at this stage would be extremely strong and circular with very little or no meandering.
After 40 or more KY of the ice build up, when the weight of the ice in the north Canada, Greenland and Scandinavia has sufficiently deformed the Earth’s crust along the Middle Atlantic Ridge (boundary between N. American and Eurasian tectonic plates) the Iceland’s volcanoes will go off with a ‘bang’ (occasionally triggered by Milancovic cycles planetary tidal pull).
At the end of the last ice age the magma flow was more than 100 times current rate, with the Iceland’s volcanoes ejecting into atmosphere huge volumes of ash/tephra, spreading across whole of the Arctic region by strong polar jet stream.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/IIAV.gif
btw. Iceland’s volcanoes are the world’s most productive, currently about 5% of world activity with 30% of the total ejected mass.
Sudden reduction in the albedo, due to accumulation of the ash/tephra on the ice, initiates fast melting, the obstruction by the G-S ridge is suddenly reduced by the fast rising sea level (outpacing the the ridge’s postglacial uplift) allowing rapid increase in the cold currents outflow and consequently equally rapid move of the warm surface currents further north into the Arctic ocean, result: interglacial or the sudden end to the Ice Age.
However, slow but steady postglacial isostatic moving of the parts G-S ridge upwards will again cause the slow but steady cooling and increase the ice accumulation.
Greenland’s uplift from the postglacial rebound means the island is gaining mass from below and its bedrock is continuously rising. At the same time, it is losing some mass from above as its ice melts. 60% of Denmark Strait is part of Greenland’s bedrock and follows its uplift, while the Wyville Thomson Ridge (closing narrow Faroes channel) is part of the Scotland’s shelf with a similar uplift.

Are these (glacial/interglacial) cycles are going to go for ever? No.
Iceland is growing larger and the warm periods’ Greenland’s glaciers are silting Denmark Strait, currently the deposit is up to 1km deep and only 600m below surface. As it happens the most of the Arctic outflow is via DS, just below 50% of the total, see the illustration above. With another 300m of silt, the cold outflow will be reduced to the level where the volume of the replacing warm waters has no sufficient melting effect on the Arctic ice, blocking onset of some future interglacial.
There is also the East Greenland (cold) surface current generated by fresh river waters flowing into Arctic as well as the sea ice summer melt. However, during the ice ages this current might disappear (freeze) since it is on the surface and of a low salinity.

February 28, 2017 2:57 pm

Referring to your image 1. I believe the last warming period from ~160mya to ~84mya can be linked to large magmatic events totalling around 136 million km^3, capable of increasing the temperature of ALL ocean water ~136K. If confirmed, this would make the cold periods the norm, and only large magmatic events could bring earth out of an ice age.

See the posts following this one:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/02/18/stokes-and-the-somehow-theory-of-ocean-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-2432044
including two links to posts on that other site for details.

Pharos
February 28, 2017 3:11 pm

The only climate change humans living in high latitudes ever need to really worry about is when does the present interglacial end?

Editor
February 28, 2017 3:13 pm

I’m surprised this paper even got published. It posits a NON -anthropogenic cause for climate change. The CAGW crowd will be very unhappy.

Robert of Texas
February 28, 2017 3:19 pm

Ignore the ice, measure the sea level (where possible). It should be an easier metric of glacial versus inter-glacial when considering the entire Earth. Sea level should correspond to the total volume (not extent) of land ice, and that is really a better measurement than extent.

February 28, 2017 3:20 pm

The posted Geocraft graphic is kind of long in the tooth. Click on the link for latest.

tabnumlock
February 28, 2017 3:29 pm

The current NH ice age began with the rise of Panama. We could probably end it by blasting through Panama with nukes. Then we’d go back to a period when we were basically in an interglacial all the time. The coming 100K yr glacial period will not be fun. One way or another, people will try to prevent it. Either that or the strongest races will seize Africa and Brazil.

Robertvd
February 28, 2017 3:39 pm

With all those large numbers a person’s life seems so insignificant. It’s a shame how we waste it with wars During the next interglaciation in about 100k years you think they’ll know we’ve ever existed?

Malrob
February 28, 2017 3:44 pm

Astronomers tell us that the 140-150 million year interval between major glacial periods coincides with the time when the solar system is located in the outer arms of the galaxy. More GCRs due to the proximity of supernovae.

BFL
February 28, 2017 4:56 pm

“Figure 5 plots effective energy required to cause an interglacial versus time. As can be seen more effective energy is required to initiate an interglacial over the past 600,000 years than before 1.5 million years.”
Per the articles below, ice coverage starts by Milankovitch and precession cycles and is only ended when CO2 levels drop enough to cause plant die off/desertification with blowing dust covering the ice and causing warming/melting. This implies that extreme cold with mile thick glaciers in the northern hemisphere is the norm that is only broken by a lucky accident of nature. This also implies that ice soot coverage along with some minor CO2 warming may be needed to keep the earth from entering the next long term ice age.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/06/28/new-paper-modulation-of-ice-ages-via-precession-and-dust-albedo-feedbacks/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1674987116300305

February 28, 2017 5:54 pm

Each ice age epoch appears to occur around 150 million years apart,as shown in the first two charts.