Green Group Urges Activists to Apply for Coal Jobs, to Infiltrate the Carmichael Coal Mine.

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Coral not coal protest at India Finance Minister Arun Jaitley Visit to Australia. By Takver from Australia [CC BY-SA 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to the Guardian, the Green Group Galilee Blockade has urged activists to apply for jobs at the gigantic Carmichael Coal Mine in Australia, so they can obtain sensitive information for use against their employers.

Get a job with Adani and infiltrate coal project, activists urge supporters

Joshua Robertson @jrojourno Thursday 9 February 2017 18.53 AEDT

Galilee Blockade, which opposes the $16bn Carmichael mine, urges followers to apply for jobs with the Indian company.

A civil disobedience campaign targeting Adani’s controversial Queensland coal project has asked almost 12,000 supporters to sign up for a job with the miner.

The Galilee Blockade is working on infiltrating Adani and related companies to gain sources of information to help its plans for “direct action”.

The group is emailing 11,931 supporters over several days to ask them to register their interest in an Adani career via the company’s website.

A Galilee Blockade spokesman, Ben Pennings, said the group was already working with industry insiders, including employees at companies including Rio Tinto, and would help others get appropriate qualifications to join the industry. “The level of support is phenomenal,” Pennings said.

“We now the mining industry tries to infiltrate the environmental movement, we know they engage state and federal police about targeting activists,” Pennings said. “So as far as we’re concerned we want a level playing field, to get as much info as possible to find out about Adani and the people they’re in bed with.

“We’re hoping employees will provide information to not only us but unions and other groups. But if there’s inside information to help target Adani and their friends, we’ll use it for direct action purposes.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/09/get-a-job-with-adani-and-infiltrate-coal-project-activists-urge-supporters

The following is from the Galilee Blockade Website;

Work for Adani to Save the Reef!

Big Coal regularly attempts to infiltrate environment groups. We’re going to infiltrate them back!

Adani is asking people to register their interest in an Adani ‘career’. We want you to apply!

We need Adani employees who care more about Aboriginal homelands, the Reef, and the Great Artesian Basin than extra profit for multi-billionaire Gautam Adani.

Of course if the Galilee Blockade campaign gets inside information on Adani and their friends, we’ll use direct action tactics to stop them.

REGISTER TO WORK FOR ADANI NOW!

Do you know anyone who works for a public relations firm, lobbying firm, or political party that deals with Adani?

Do you know about an Adani event that’s not public? Are they attending a political fundraiser or mining industry event?

Do you know whether Adani have donated more money to Labor or the LNP? One Nation or Katter Australia Party maybe?

PLEASE CONTACT US HERE WITH WHAT YOU KNOW

We will protect your identity, seek legal support, and send information to the appropriate authorities if Adani is breaking the law. We’re gearing up around the country for direct action. Donate what you can now so we can professionally train people around the nation. Together we will win.

Source: http://galileeblockade.net/work-for-adani-to-save-the-reef/

I can’t help feeling this new campaign is doomed to failure. For the infiltration plan to work, green activists would have to get a job.

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153 thoughts on “Green Group Urges Activists to Apply for Coal Jobs, to Infiltrate the Carmichael Coal Mine.

    • That was my first thought. A green activist, working…breaking a sweat… punching a clock??? On second thought, those of us who do work hard, love it and enjoy the people around us. Maybe digging coal will make a few conversions. Maybe.

      • Probably, like most sleeper cell agents, any that actually made it through training would actually defect and become part of what they despised. They don’t just accept anyone in heavy industry, so it would take a lot of training to even be hired. Probably their perspectives would turn about the time that they fell asleep during the two-hour lecture by the safety department followed by another hour by environmental.

        Besides, what could they possibly learn at that level? Where to sabotage?

      • Well, no, they wouldn’t actually be applying for a job themselves, they are urging ACTIVISTS (i.e. others) to get a job. That’s not the same thing as actually working. Urging is not a job. Close, but no cigar.

      • Hire them, put them to work in restricted areas where they learn nothing except how to break their back for a shift until they quit.

      • The average salary of a coal mine worker is somewhere around $ 50,000, right?

        So, if an infiltrator were to succeed, then he/she would have to actually WORK to earn a pay check, in order to be convincing. This would require actually doing the work and, wait, getting paid to expend your physical and mental energy — what a concept! … and those who might never have experienced this radical concept might gain some insight, like, “Wow, I actually got PAID to do something.”

        Maybe some would grow to like coal mining, you know, because it’s getting close to the Earth, getting your hands/face/everything dirty, … really dirty. Can’t get much closer to the Earth than coal mining. It could be a pretty good fit for some of those “infiltrating”. And don’t forget, coal is a green energy source, even though it is now black — it USED to be green, produced from living solar reactors called PLANTS, formed NATURALLY by the EARTH.

        But that’s too much to hope for, I guess.

      • “By far my favorite and most memorable song [by Tennessee Ernie Ford] as a kid”

        Me, too. I think that is the first song I remember from listening to the radio, when I was about five or six years old, where I realized the song was telling me a story, and I understood it. 16 tons of number 9 coal. Another day older, and deeper in debt. I owe my soul to the company store.

      • Remember that many pop songs were written by the artistic left and so are likely to display some of the leftist ideology of the songsters. In truth, you load 16 tons and you get paid. If you go into debt, is that not your fault?

      • “In truth, you load 16 tons and you get paid. If you go into debt, is that not your fault?”

        That’s true, but I think the situation he is singing about is where the company store is the only place they can go to buy things because they started out in debt, and the company store keeps them in debt by overcharging them, and they can do this because the company store is the only place the miners can get credit. Like a monopoly. They lived in company towns and they shopped at company stores, so they were captives of the situation, so to speak.

        It’s easy to say never get into debt, and that’s a very good idea if you can manage it, but it’s not always easy in practice, especially if you start out dirt poor like most of the coal miners Tennessee Ernie Ford was singing about.

      • Back before labor reforms made it illegal, oftentimes the miners weren’t even paid in normal dollars, but in company-printed funny money called scrip. The company store was the only place it could be spent; no merchant outside the mining camp could be expected to honor it. Made the blatant exploitation even more onerous and hard to escape.

        The version of Sixteen Tons that everybody knows is actually a cover. It was originally performed by Merle Travis. But Tennessee Ford’s gravelly-voiced rendition was what made it popular.

    • I had the same thought the little snow flakes would need a safe space that is clean and no where near a dirty coal minor who might be a Conservative – OMG!
      They are more comfortable wearing black face masks and the latest protest of the day, than a real job or god forbid hard work!

      On second thought maybe they should be drafted to either 2 years in the coal mines or 2 years in Afghanistan – LOL

    • 12 hour shifts, starting at 0400 in the morning, or worse, the night shift. Summer gets a bit warm. Winter can get very cool. Physically very demanding, despite the modern equipment.

      Personally I think it may do them some good. I honestly think that those that lasted would change to a more pro coal attitude.

      • All through my 20’s, I worked on an oil rig, rain or shine. We used to love it when new meat showed up, it was always entertaining a few hours in when that look would come across their face, that look said “damn, I never knew what “hard” was before now!”

        To this day, whenever its raining, or freezing, or boiling, I look outside and am incredibly thankful to just have an indoor job now! Sure, being out in nature was one of the things I loved at the time – but standing out in a 31 degree rain for 9 days straight (yeah, I did that once) woke me up for good as to the realities of life in the Great Outdoors.

      • Aye wws!

        I started working at age fifteen with a one semester off period of time, while I tried college. After that it was night school, while working.

        The older workers at the ‘United States Steel’, USS plant could easily identify most college students “working for the summer”, as “you must be college boys”; meaning, no common sense.

        Friends that graduated with me or were in my Boy Scout troop were already married with children while stuffing every extra penny into savings accounts so they could buy a home, some day.

        Thanks to desperate uneducated immigrants taking most low paying or incredibly dirty/yucky jobs, most of those flowers in the picture above, never truly worked hard in a dirty job.
        Worse, most of them believe that seriously hard working dirty jobs just don’t exist in America.

        I enjoyed working outside, and did so in a number of jobs. Jeez, entering the grounds of USS was well described by J. R. R. Tolkien when he wrote Frodo’s journey through the wastes of Mordor or Fingolfin’s charge across the wastes of Angband to duel with Melkor. Even falling into the manure spreading wagon was not as dirty nor as disgusting as some of the jobs I worked at USS.

        USS was definitely a place that cheered one up when leaving for the day.

        Even though most of my work was in or around the open hearth (iron refined into steel), the nearby iron works (ore smelted into iron), made sure we all reeked of sulfur dioxide.

        So long as one is not working behind cows or cleaning bird pens, outdoors farm work is far more pleasant.

        Why did I mention working at USS?
        Well, when we started work at USS, we went through a USS education and initiation program including our sizes in helmets, shoes and safety gear. The shoes we were issued were very heavy shoes with multiple layers of steel plate to ‘protect’ our feet.
        Nothing issued to us was free, everything was paid for from our first paychecks.

        Within the first few hours, on our first day at work; one guy yelled that he wasn’t going to stay and that he quit. The work wasn’t hard or even very dirty, yet.
        The supervisor in charge told the guy that he had not earned enough money for his shoes. The guy untied the shoes and walked out of the open hearth in his stocking feet.

        I would expect most of those delicate flowers in the above article’s sample picture, to have trouble working that long.

    • None of them will get past the pre-employment drug test, and even if they do, then they will have to stay off the “gear”, as random drug testing has now become the norm in mining in Australia. I have also found that somehow a :suspect” employee always seems to be “randomly selected”!

    • Very poor plan, does anyone actually believe any of these activists can get out of bed before mid-day let alone actually work for a living or pay any tax!

    • Never met an “activist” in my life that would be capable of doing that kind of work for 10 minutes. And then what? Sabotage? Cave the mine in on their own heads? Yeah–that’s about the way they think.

    • I’m sure it will never occur to HR to check out these watermelons’ social pages or otherwise suss out their digital footprint.

    • I don’t advise anyone to do this. There is no need to sink to their level.

      The police likely infiltrate extremist groups of all flavours who they believe are likely to commit serious crimes. Were an ordinary person to mix with such criminals, you might be exposing yourself to the risk of physical harm or worse.

      • hardly sinking to their level … they are criminals … and usually violent … destroy them …

      • Eric Worrall February 9, 2017 at 9:19 pm

        Eric is correct. People tend to forget all the things they sign for employment. Fine print. Let them do the Watusi on their reproductive organs.

        michael :-))

      • Green groups in general are not extremists or likely to commit crimes. That is a disgraceful characterisation.

      • Griff, green groups are extreme and commit crimes all the time. I’ve had death threats against myself and suppliers, I’ve seen them use caltrops. They frequently trespass. They lock themselves to property and equipment, and I have seen them sabotage a mine’s explosives, creating an enormously dangerous situation for themselves and the mine employees.

        These people are dangerous criminal nut bags.

      • Oh and let’s not forget the occasion where they put out a fake press release to try to crash a company’s share price.

        Oh, and did I mention the phone called threats of arson?

      • Griff, you sad little doofus, even I have a copy of the Monkey Wrench Gang, the handbook for the modern activist environmental movement. (and it is an entertaining book, admittedly, Abbey was a good writer)

        “In his book Screw Unto Others, George Hayduke states that Edward Abbey was his mentor, and mentions The Monkey Wrench Gang as the origin of the term monkeywrenching. Hayduke says The Monkey Wrench Gang inspired environmentalist David Foreman to help create Earth First!, a direct action environmental organization.”

        there are only 2 kinds of environmental organizations: those made up of latte drinking rich snobs who want to look virtuous while not actually doing anything (Sierra Club, for example) and the Earth First!ers and their allies, who value “monkeywrenching” as their tactic of choice.

      • “The police likely infiltrate extremist groups of all flavours who they believe are likely to commit serious crimes”
        In the 1960s Special Branch and MI5 did infiltrate a number of groups such as the WRP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Revolutionary_Party_(UK) ) which talked about a violent revolution and also talked about how the authorities were monitoring them and might just shut them down at any moment.

        Broadly speaking these groups were all talk and nothing was done about them, except for the odd individual who actually committed a criminal offence.

        Reports on these groups ended up in the Cabinet and so this information came out in the late 90s under the 30 Year Rule ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-year_rule ).

        I saw a couple of TV programmes about this where the journalists interviewed a number of the leading lights of those organisations. In the programmes clips from the 60s of these people advocating violent revolution and denouncing their persecution by the authorities were contrasted with the interviews where they expressed their horror that they were ever suspected of violence or revolution and their outrage that they had been infiltrated.

        IIRC not a one of them showed any understanding of why groups calling for violent revolution might be investigated not any embarrassment that they had not believed a word of their claims (in the 60s) that they were under investigation.

      • Obviously Griff has never encountered any of Patrick Moore’s accounts of what happened to green groups. I’d say that puts him about 25 years behind the times. (And tell the Peruvian gov’t that these people aren’t capable of criminal action; in the case in question (the hummingbird episode) it looked as if it were second nature.)

  1. I’d actually like to see some of these “snowflakes” put in a solid day’s labor in a coal mine… LOL!

    That would be worth the risk of them “infiltrating”!

    (I hope the mine has good hospital benefits).

    • Hire as many as possible! It’s the heaven-sent way to “cashier” most of them in less than four hours.

  2. “Galilee Blockade, which opposes the $16bn Carmichael mine, urges followers to apply for jobs with the Indian company”.

    So sure Carmichael mine places its undercovers in Galilee Blockade.

  3. There is no danger to industry coming from the idea of Green Group Members and activists applying for jobs at the Adani-Carmichael Coal Mine in Australia, as it is in the north of the Galilee Basin in Central Queensland, Australia. This is a remote, harsh area with blistering temperatures for half the year. Worse there are no Caffee Latte outlets to be seen. Adani needs, however, to vet the workers in the Adani-Carmichael headquartered in Townsville which is a pleasant town with many bourgeoise facilities and music festivals.

    • Dunno about Townsville being a pleasant town to the average hippie. I think the town is usually branded as racist, closed-minded and backward by the progressive Australian media. So you know, filled with regular folks with one of two genders and who care about being employed.

      • In my opinion which was formed from actually living in Townsville for a year, it is a great place to live.

    • Lots of them have IT skills. That could place them in the most dangerous position of all, where they will have full access to information. The Snowden scenario.

    • gymnosperm February 9, 2017 at 9:43 pm
      Hilarious. Just look at those dufs. The only thing they can infiltrate is an Art History class.

      Ah no, Corinthian, Doric, Ionian.
      Doubt they would understand :-)

      michael

  4. There is another angle to this. I make this conjecture: The CAGW mob have sort of realized that they have penetrated society about all they can with their overt bravado and grandiose tactics. They realize that CAGW activism isn’t as popular as they need it to be to accomplish their agenda and goals.

    Q. What is left for them to do?

    A. Other things, like guerilla tactics and long term low yield projects. This is highly inefficient.

    It is a symptom of their desperation and their acceptance that we skeptics have gained the advantage.

    If I were Carmicheal Coal Mine I would affirmatively hire a dozen or so activists, place them in a government program funded internal program within the company to do some menial tasks while to company exposes them all to carefully orchestrated scenarios and documents that seemingly indict company officials, Tillerson and Trump in some conspiracy to inject oil into dolphins or a fake environmental disaster of some sore. Then allow, no enable them, to contact CNN for a huge expensive expose.

    Then when it all is over the news, yank the carpet out from under them al la Dan Rather by showing that all the info was faked by the activists.

    I remember how sweet it was that the letter condemning GW Bush was faked by a leftist using MS Word.

  5. Get a job in a coal mine – right. These whiny, clueless, little nits don’t appear to have any kind of job at all! How else do they manage to attend these annoying protests, usually during the workweek, when most people are hard at work trying to earn a living. Trying to pay the constantly increasing cost of electricity, and now (I’m from Ontario, Canada) “carbon” taxes. I imagine many parents’ basements are empty when the streets are full of these bothersome pests.

  6. “the Green Group Galilee Blockade has urged activists to apply for jobs at the gigantic Carmichael Coal Mine in Australia”

    Dont worry, These guys will quit as soon as they descend to the coal face and have to work.

    Maybe Carmichael Coal Mine management will click on to this and require every new employee to spend at least a week in the pit. After a few days the imposters will be quite obvious I suspect.

    Cheers

    Roger

  7. Right now NSW (New South Wales; Australia’s most populated state) and South Australia are in the middle of an energy crisis…due entirely to the hare brained renewable energy schemes that recent governments have introduced.
    A first world country with rolling blackouts due to lack of capacity…you couldn’t make it up.

      • The Australian power regulator has just made a statement saying that ‘the wind’ did not co-operate on the days of the power outages.
        But I guess you’d probably ‘deny’ that.
        And don’t quote The Guardian at me, please.

      • Griff The Guardian can’t even get the numbers right from the start-
        “The Australian Energy Market Operator says it was not asleep at the wheel after another electricity shortage in South Australia on Wednesday caused blackouts for 40,000 people.”
        A quick search will show over 90,000 HOMES after The Advertiser in SA queried that initial HOMES estimate further (Tip: Most homes have more than one peoples in them)

        It’s all about trying to manage the rollercoaster unreliables mate-
        http://anero.id/energy/wind-energy/2017/february
        and we only have mere mortals to do that and God was busy at the time.

      • Wind was not able to supply all the power consumers wanted.
        Therefore the problem is greedy consumers, not unreliable wind.

      • Griff,

        This, from your article, suggests exactly the opposite, that the SA government is to blame. Funny how people can read the same article and come to two completely, diametrically opposed conclusions.

        Turnbull again on Friday declared the problem was the South Australian government not doing enough contingency planning to secure the grid. The South Australian government had “just mindlessly, complacently, negligently introduced more and more renewables into their grid,” the prime minister said.

        “They have not put in place the backup gas-fired generators to come into play when the wind isn’t blowing. They have done nothing on storage at all.”

      • Griff, once again you demonstrate remarkable ignorance and unquestioning devotion to articles in The Gaurdian. I live in Australia, New South Wales (NSW), in The Shire and my sister in-law lives in Penrith, 80kms away in the west of Sydney. Both of us last night I experienced this “load shedding”, about 45min for me and about 2hrs for her, due to the state govn’t’s plans to reduce coal/gas fired power generation in favour of renewables. It was over 40c where I live and closer to 44c where she lives. There simply wasn’t enough supply to meet demand in what is the peak of an Australian summer, ie, HOT! So “load shedding” (A politically correct BS term if ever I heard one) was approved. Approx 20% of power in NSW comes from renewables where once upon a time *ALL* power came from fossil fuels and as far as I can tell, there was plenty of capacity and none of this “load shedding” nonsense.

        Australia now has a “stock market” type power generating system whereby supply can be reduced or restricted (Load shedding) forcing prices up. All thanks to renewables (RET).

        It’s so hot here today (I am originally from England, so Aussie summers are very hot for me much hotter than my recollection of the UK 1976 heatwave) even birds are taking shelter on my shaded balcony, sweating through their open beaks and one is clever enough to know that the water drain pipe from my A/C unit is a source of cool water. I think this bird is smarter than anyone who is in favour of renewables.

  8. None of the above look like they are truck or D9 drivers. Not that it will matter – all Adani will need to do is check their Facebook/Twitter accounts. That will identify the activists.

    • DoC are as useless as NIWA, I contracted for both. DoC paid NZ$800,000 to move 1000 native worms so that a road project could be approved. That was somewhere north of Wellington.

  9. The coalmine operator must not be afraid. When something green activists excel it is their laziness. Working in a mine with shift service is something other than holding small posters high. The engineers will choose the operator according to their previous qualification and that there are green activists among them, I can not imagine with the best will. So I think Eric Worall will only start us out of the morning rest.

  10. Major hole in their plan. Mining companies typically want to hire people with skills. Activists highly unlikely to make the grade.

  11. Here are five good reasons not to do this.

    1. It takes a productive job opportunity away from a person who genuinely needs it.

    2. It is deceptive.
    “…said the group was already working with industry insiders, including employees at companies including Rio Tinto, and would help others get appropriate qualifications to join the industry.”

    3. If you are incorrect about the effects of CO2, and you are, you will be deceiving with intent to harm the company that has given you employment, for a service that all people want and need — even those like you, who remain ignorant of energy and the other hundreds of important coal, coke and coal tar products.

    4. You should instead be working to pay off the enormous debt for the (evidently) worthless college education you have inflicted on yourself, and you do not have time to sabotage working people’s lives

    5. You should think about the last time someone manipulated you or pretended to be someone he or she was not, and determine if that is the sort of life you want to lead. Be prepared to get your own medicine later on.

    • “would help others get appropriate qualifications to join the industry.”

      Is this an underhanded way of saying that they will create fake credentials?

    • Zeke,

      With respect, your five reasons assume leftist progressive activists behave ethically and morally, respect opinions that don’t agree with their own, and are concerned with the well-being of others. When one believes that they are saving the earth, they believe that they are morally superior to everyone else, that no one who disagrees with them matters, and that the ends justify any means necessary to accomplish their goals, no matter how many other people get screwed.

  12. I know several people who have employed fresh faced yoofs from uni only to find they find actual sustained work for days at a time a great and terrible shock, some endure and get through to become good and reliable the others fail and leave to find an easier way to make a living. The funniest thing is those these young and enthusiastic people are working with are old codgers who sit about drinking tea and talking all day.

    James Bull

  13. Donate what you can now

    All a smokescreen for their only real plan, which is to scoop some money into their own coffers. Really, they think that urging people to get a job at a coal mine and then report back to them is going to work? Do they realistically think that a single person would do this, and if they did there would be some illegal activity that this would make them instantly privy to? Seriously, companies doing illegal things just admit them to someone who was hired yesterday? If you REALLY wanted to infiltrate an organization in this manner, you’d keep it low profile and plot it out for months of not years, would you not?

    This is just a more well veiled than usual means of begging for money.

    • I have never worked for any mining company that knowingly broke the law. People who work in mining are generally stand-up citizens. Genuine, family individuals, fathers, mothers, grandfathers. People who know what it is like to pay more than their fair share of taxes their entire working lives.

      • Most of the people working in the mines, know that those regulations are keeping them alive.
        If they thought management was skimping on safety, they would be the first to complain.

      • Just curious, aren’t the people advocating for this, potentially engaging in illegal activities themselves, especially if the infiltrate companies and steal proprietary information (corporate espionage)?

  14. Okay I see this as the most irresponsible attack on worker safety the can occur. To land such a job they will have to misrepresent themselves. Their ignorance and stupidity WILL got someone killed.

    I worked mostly in the machine tool industry, the main concern was to keep people safe. A mistake could kill or maimed this is even a greater issue in mining.

    Charges of attempted murder should be brought against anyone misrepresenting themselves.

    michael

  15. Why do we let foreign companies mine our resources?

    Are Australians too stupid to work out how to dig stuff up out of the ground?
    Or are we so desperate for money, that we’re willing to sell our future to foreign nations for a quick thrill today?
    Why can’t an Australian company dig it up and sell it to India?

    What’s wrong with us?

    =========
    Chinese company may sell Latrobe Valley brown coal briquettes locally
    Sept 2014

    A massive Chinese company that received a $25 million government grant [thanks to the Victorian taxpayer] to turn Latrobe Valley brown coal into briquettes is looking at selling the resource back to Victoria’s power plants.
    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/chinese-company-may-sell-latrobe-valley-brown-coal-briquettes-locally-20140901-10b2un.html
    ===========

    They must be having a good laugh at how stupid we are.

  16. Won’t the activists lose the dole if they get a job , and I’m assuming the gross wage will see them paying off their hex debts .

  17. Who’s gonna give these idiots a job?…. and if Adani does, it deserves everything they do to it.

    Just internet search their name, facial features and and social media accounts….. Their activism history and naked pics will be available to all.

  18. I heard a documentary about George Orwell. He lived like a bum to research for his book, “Down and Out in Paris and London”. He had no problem passing as a bum. On the other hand, researching for another book, he had difficulty passing as a worker. He found that workers had a culture with which he was completely unfamiliar. link

    My guess is that the greenies will have trouble passing as workers. If the company is worried about being infiltrated, it shouldn’t be too difficult to spot the possible infiltrators.

  19. As anyone who has read John LeCarre will appreciate, this “infiltration” thing can have ‘unanticipated consequences’.

    Here in the UK we have a proud(?) recent history of greenie activist / vandals who have fagrantly broken the law, caused mayhem, cost millions of pounds, put lives at risk and then been aquitted by the courts (or at best, been ‘bound over to keep the peace’ for serious offences – despite, in many cases, several prior convictions.

    Such is the overarching greenie bias of the ‘elite’ here in the UK.

    Perhaps the most remarkable episode in this particular and on-going farce has been the cases of aggrevated trespass, vandalism, and flouting of Health & Safety regulations at Ratcliffe-on-Soar and Drax Power Stations. The activist / vandals were (unusually) convicted by the Courts but the cases collapsed after it became apparent that undercover police officers had been involved.

    On one level, even those with a heart of stone cannot fail to be moved by the tragic story of those female protesters who had been seduced by these burly cops. Moved to hysterical laughter, perhaps.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/20/lisa-jones-girlfriend-of-undercover-police-office-mark-kennedy-interview

    But, after having convictions squashed and being handsomely compensated (by the endlessly suffering taxpayer) for having their “Human Rights” violated in this cruel way, these poor victims are again free to vandalise again, Mark Kennedy (maybe a greenie ‘double agent’ who infiltrated the police? Who knows?) seems to have only had a finger wagged at him. The ‘victims’ and Kennedy have been lionised by the BBC and newspapers like the Grauniad, have had a play put on stage about them and so forth.

    Tax payers and energy users, again pick up the tab.

    It’s a funny old world. More often funny=peculiar than funny=Ho Ho.

  20. At the end of the article is a plea for funding, of the Guardian.
    Years ago I used read The Observer, a quality well researched paper.It has declined in The Guardian.
    In this article the information is well researched,however the attitude of the journalist is to promote a cause,
    not to throw light on it and allow the reader to make up his mind about the subject.
    Only by being open about bias and prepared to interview everyone, can quality journalism be effected.

    ‘Since you’re here …
    … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian has only one shareholder, The Scott Trust, which keeps our independent, investigative, public-interest journalism free from commercial or political interference. More people are reading the Guardian than ever but far fewer are paying for it. And advertising revenues across the media are falling fast. So you can see why we need to ask for your help. The Guardian’s journalism takes a lot of time, money and hard work to produce. But we do it because we believe our perspective matters – because it might well be your perspective, too.

    If everyone who reads our reporting, who likes it, helps to pay for it, our future would be much more secure.

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    When journalism becomes the story by creating a narrative and ‘perspective’, who can trust its source?

  21. …or some cost-cutting measure like the lack of life-boats and cheap steel on the Titanic. …

    I wish people would not idly propagate urban legends. The Titanic was supplied with more lifeboats than regulations demanded, and the steel used, though it would be rejected nowadays, was in most cases the best available without reference to cost, and in all cases well within the design parameters of the time.

    Controlling costs is obviously an important part of any engineering design. But the Titanic was built on a ‘costs plus’ contract which lowered financial pressures on the builders, meaning that for the time the Titanic was better equipped and safer than most other ships of her type. The disaster exposed the limits of safety technology, build regulations and accident management at that time, not the greed of the owners or designers…

  22. This is hilarious.

    The Australian mining industry is quite small, people know each other, or they know another person who has worked at the applicants previous workplaces. No-one uses the supplied referees, they just ring a mate and have a chat.

    Reference checking will find these people out straight away.

    On the other hand it would be really funny watching these guys in the team assessment phase fo the selection process!

    • yup getting into any mine job without a personal ref from a worker or prior work is damned hard
      other heavy ind exp might help a first timer
      unless they plan to work in canteen or as maids?
      which are well paid but…require hard work too.

    • Yes, it’s an industry with one degree of separation or less…

      You certainly don’t want to ever leave a job on bad terms.

  23. A lot of assumptions going on here!
    Assumption 1. Is that the average greenie is bright enough to infiltrate.
    Assumption 2. Is that the average greenie can infiltrate a coal mine without holding their nose ( a dead giveaway)
    Assumption 3. Is that a greenie can shower and wear shoes.
    Assumption 4. Is that a greenie can pass an on site drug test.

  24. = = = = = = = =
    Mr Janakaraj [current CEO of Adani] was director of operations of KMC when the company was charged in 2010 with causing a serious pollution spill, which saw a toxic brew of highly acidic, metal-laden discharge released into the Kafue River.
    The river is one of Zambia’s largest waterways and a source of water and food for about 40 per cent of the country’s people.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-12/adani-boss-oversaw-mine-guilty-of-polluting-african-river/6920576
    = = = = = = = = =

    I reckon selling the country to foreigners is a great idea, mate!
    It worked so well for our public utilities. No worries, cobber!

  25. Well, the entire project is pointless anyway…

    India is going to ban foreign coal by 2020, china is reaching peak coal use, Indonesia has announced caol power phase out.

    • If genuine polar bear scientists think another scientist doesn’t know anything about polar bears and I quote it, I have nothing to apologise for.

      and I stand by what I said directly in reply to Susan’s comment/post.

      • There is a separation between a ‘polar bear scientist’, and a ‘polar bear advocate’. Which is probably why they chose that field of study in the first place. Talk about complete lack of contextual understanding.

      • Didn’t you say she had no credentials in the field? Had nothing published in the field ?
        And what’s with the comment about you don’t need to be a scientist in a particular field to comment on that field ? Do you know what a hypocrite is Griff , look in the mirror .

      • @Robert from oz
        Here
        https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/12/14/more-polar-non-science/#comment-2371523
        Griff said

        BTW: does Susan actually have any qualifications to speak about bear populations?

        She does not research or publish (scientifically) about bears, nor is she involved in the biology of arctic populations, so far as I know.

        What she says is surely just opinion? any biologist who has read the papers surely has a view just as valid??

        After which ClimateOtter quoted (from Crockford’s website?) a description of her and a summary of her published work. Of the papers listed, seven mention polar bears.

        Griff responded by saying that she was doing the wrong sort of polar bear research for him to listen to her.

        He then added a piece saying that polar bear researchers (presumably ones who he does listen to) have criticised Crockford in a popular science piece, which piece does not contain the words Crockford or Susan.

        He then lists a number of ‘quotes’ from that popular science piece, which also aren’t in it.

        So I think that Griff is now saying that he stands behind his inability to quote, scan or even read.

      • “So I think that Griff is now saying that he stands behind his inability to quote, scan or even read.”

        And most especially, tell the truth.

        There again, he’s merely doing what he’s paid to do.

      • Griff translation #2: I have my head so far up my anal cavity I can’t see Susan Crockford’s qualifications, and I can’t hear all your laughing at me either.

  26. The greenies are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy overthinking this.
    If they want to dig up dirt, just have Peter Gleick send the CEO’s admin an email…………………………………………

  27. In my twenties, and being a geology graduate, I worked as a mudlogger on drilling rigs in Oz. The hardest jobs were up in the Kimberleys ( hot and humid at the start of the wet season) , and in Queensland near Quilpie. It was summer, and you could set the clock by the air temp which would reach 42 C at about 13:10. When we hit difficulties and had to trip in and out of the hole a lot (no drilling equals not much for a mudlogger to do) , I’d spell the roughnecks so that they could get a rest and some food. I was fit at the time (rock climbing, surfing) but nothing prepared me for a shift on the drill floor. It’s like being in the gym, only noisy filthy and dangerous, and it goes on for 12 hours. The guys who can do that for a living are as hard as nails. Mining is similarly demanding. These greenflakes wouldn’t last a minute.

  28. Big Brother wants you!

    Social Media screening for all applicants and employees. Done. Also screening of all internal email systems for transmittal outside of the company. Done.

    I was a whistleblower and I routinely forwarded company emails out of my own company account to a non-company email. Should have been a red flag but I got away with it for several years.

    • You are an example of the ever present additional tax good people have to pay. Industrial sabotage by employees, anti capitalistic useful fools, global warming …..Do something that adds to the economy – there’s a foreign concept for ya.

  29. A culture of welfare has infiltrated the lower class. A culture of drugs has infiltrated the middle class. A culture of mysticism (e.g. conflation, inference, conjecture) has infiltrated our scientific domain. A culture of a-bortion has infiltrated our daughters’ lives. A culture of spoiled children has infiltrated the first-world.

  30. Coal companies don’t have positions for, “stand on a street corner with a sign that reads, ‘Furniture Barn going out of business blowout sale everything must go 90% off’ “. Too bad though, they would be very good at it.

  31. Day in the life of an activist coal miner infiltrator:

    Awaken at 5 AM,
    Center oneself with ten minutes of meditation,
    Prepare a modest breakfast consisting of a quinoa muffin with soy butter, two boiled pasture-raised-grain-fed-chicken eggs (just the whites), a hearty six ounces of freshly juiced kale/carrot/apple/banana with a shot of barley grass for good measure, one cup of high-end Greek yogurt as far in front of its “best-used-by” date as possible, and a cup of almond milk, with some special herbs thrown in to ensure emotional balance throughout the day,
    Next, a pumice-stone body cleansing to save water,
    Unplug the electric car and depart for work,
    Report to assigned mine, descend, toil, get really tired,
    Drag home,
    Call in sick the next day, never go back,
    Report to infiltrator headquarters — nothing to report, because the work displaced one too far from one’s center,
    Donate the day’s wages to the worthy cause of divesting from coal energy.

  32. Notice that all those protesters look very young. A recent study suggests that 97% of Left wing protesters live in their parents basements. (Not sure if this is true or not, but I thought it was funny)

  33. “steal proprietary information”

    ‘sensitive information’

    Coal companies? What secrets could they have?

  34. Mainly good would come from employing many of these people in the mining industry. They would be exposed to the actuality of working in a position in which they could find pride and sense of achievement. They would learn rigorous ways to look at data, to think like analytical scientists about concrete ways to help the fellow man, rather than wasting time thinking about how to be heard at the next protest, a task which they would soon wonder how they got to be involved.

  35. Those Activists better apply for those coal jobs soon otherwise they will be in line behind former EPA management . Going to shut coal down Hillary ? How did that work out ?
    The Democrats lost the day they pitted Americans against each other .
    They will lose again and again until they get some different sugar daddies who can do a better job of hiding their self dealing interests .
    How does it feel Bernie after catering to the green bag men ?

  36. My electricity provider sends me things-
    https://www.energyaustralia.com.au/lighttheway?cid=ret|edm|deltal|ltwbl||

    “And there is more to come.

    Providing reliable, affordable and clean energy for all Australians will not be easy – the reality is, today, new supplies of clean energy are more expensive than existing power. But I’m as optimistic as ever about Australia’s future and believe that by working together – customers, industry and government – we will address this challenge.”

    Translation: Expect those wholesale electricity price spikes to be coming your way on top of the highest power prices in the world real soon dude.

  37. Still laughing….mining is hard work and doubt any of the people would do it for ideological reason…it’s easier to just bitch and moan on social media or maybe share a few memes…

  38. If I were Adani I wouldn’t worry too much about the Greens according to The Australian today 11/2/2017-

    “The finances of the NSW Greens “cannot really be described as ­anything short of disastrous from   ­a ­financial management/compliance perspective”, according to internal documents which also ­reveal the Australian Electoral Commission threatened to refer the party to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions.
    Sent by the party’s former state treasurer Margaret Carey, the memo notes that despite the AEC being provided with more details, “the level and scale of the discrepancies” meant it was “unable to form an opinion” about how widespread the donation issues were.’

    ‘Debbie Gibson, the co-convener of the NSW Greens, last night said the AEC’s audit had been “routine” and “there were no outstanding issues”.’

    ‘The Australian Electoral Commission was last night unable to comment about the audit, and whether it was ongoing or if it the matter had been resolved. Ms Carey, who is no longer the party treasurer, said in November that the party had been notified that “continued non-compliance with the (Commonwealth Electoral) Act may result in referral to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions”.

    “To date we cannot calculate our net financial position for the 2015 state election campaign,” she wrote.

    “We have now closed off the 2016 federal election campaign with the unprecedented loss of $328,000.’

  39. “Green groups in general are not extremists or likely to commit crimes. That is a disgraceful characterisation.”

    Greenpeace is not peaceful. If I was on my sailboat and I saw Greenpeace coming, I would arm myself with a flare gun and crowbar.

    Since I work in nuclear power this is not idle thought. At the power plant, I am protected an armed, well trained security force.

    Most of the environmental activist I know are nice people. Many even work in the nuclear industry. We know and care about the environment. We are activist because we actively do things to make the environment better.

    However, I have met some dangerous and deranged activist who can justify anything.

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