According to Salon, women who have taken a personal decision to help save the planet, by not having children, are angry that celebrity hypocrites appear to be ignoring the climate issues which they claim to take so seriously.
Baby Doomers: As climate change threatens to strain resources, women are increasingly reevaluating reproductive decisions. Now, these women are angry
When Sara Kelly, the 30-year-old founder of SAK PR firm in Philadelphia, posted an article to her Facebook page in December — one describing the growing trend of women refusing to have children for environmental reasons — it received more than 60 impassioned comments, mostly from friends of childbearing age debating the merits of the movement. “The topic comes up at least once a week,” Kelly told Salon. “People on both sides are having to put a lot more thought into their reasons than ever before. We’re forced to weigh the impact of climate change more than any generation before us. At dinner, cocktail hours, birthday parties. . . it’s on everyone’s mind.”
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So, in the great population debate of 2016, who came out on top: the pro-baby set, or population-control enthusiasts? It doesn’t really matter, some experts contend, because we’re having the wrong conversation.
“We have a generation of people whose decisions are deeply and painfully complicated by climate change,” Josephine Ferorelli, co-founder of the nonprofit Conceivable Future, which frames global warming as a reproductive justice issue, told Salon. “There isn’t a correct answer here — it’s an impossible choice. So we’re trying to refocus the conversation to something larger.”
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Conceivable Future — a network that welcomes parents as well as non-parents — encourages women of every experience to share their struggles in an attempt to put political will behind emotion. So far, they have more than 70 testimonials and counting. While they’re often mistaken for a population control advocacy group, this isn’t the case, largely because discussions of population control, they believe, are often rooted in classist ideology. Because it’s women in developing countries who tend to have more children, it’s these women who are often targeted. In reality, the largest per capita carbon emissions come from America. According to Mother Jones, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s daughter Zahara will likely produce 45,000 pounds of CO2 yearly, but that number would shrink to 221 pounds had Zahara stayed in Ethiopia.
It’s this discrepancy that’s increasingly shaping the plans of future mothers. Take Mary Sullivan, a 31-year-old school teacher from Newton, New Jersey, who has decided to foster children rather than have her own. “Climate change is already killing children in the developing world, and soon we will see the effects on the most vulnerable citizens of our country,” she told Salon. “Arguably, we are already. I don’t consider myself especially vulnerable, but I also don’t think I’ll ever be in a financial position to guarantee my child’s safety in the midst of a global crisis. With that in mind, yes, it does make me angry that there are people in the world who don’t even have to think about this — and these are often the very people making the decisions causing this disaster or refusing to address the problem.”
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It is good that jet-setters who claim to be concerned about CO2 emissions are receiving more public criticism for their hypocrisy. But in my opinion, the real tragedy is women being terrorised out of child bearing by climate propaganda.
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Don’t worry guys…..I’m working on this problem as hard as I can
You are a martyr.
“I do a lot of work with unwed mothers…just helping them get their start.”
— Steve Martin (a wild and crazy guy)
Talk about “fake news!” I should imagine the “childless over fears of climate change” numbers to be right up there with one-legged, left-handed albino dwarfs. We can do without their DNA in the gene pool.
Since Zahara’s carbon footprint will be 45,000 pounds annually in the USA but just 220 in Ethiopia, the solution is simple. Every woman that thinks childbearing is bad for climate change should simply move to Ethiopia.
And, lest you forget, electing to not have children brings about an unconcieveable future
So long as they wear a specific pin identifying themselves as unconceptible, I have no problems with it. I simply won’t marry one
The fewer lefties there are raising future little lefties, the better off the gene pool.
Stupid noaaprogrammer, acquired characteristics are not passed on genetically.
I believe bleeding heart disease is 50/50.
” We can do without their DNA in the gene pool.”
As long as they remain childless your wish will be granted. Praise the Lord.
The fact that people (both men & women ) would choose not to raise a family because of an unjustifiable fear of climate change / climate impact is immoral & a crime against humanity. It leaves me speechless. Perhaps alarmists should be re-labled “climate terrorists”
On the other hand, women that are gullible enough and stupid enough to believe the climate hype are perhaps unfit to raise children anyhow.
But it has to turn into self-flattery – “Look at me! I’m not having kids because I’m SavingThePlanet™!”
I think we should thank them for cleansing the gene pool.
Two things strike me; one is that these organisations should be in line for a Darwin Award (no children division) and that these people have not studied history to wit “We’re forced to weigh the impact of climate change more than any generation before us”. I think the generations that suffered through the little ice age with mass starvation due to crop failures and increased conflict over resource had more to worry about!
PiperPaul, you are absolutely right. People who make these kinds of decisions ALWAYS have to “share” them, so that others may see their superiority. Unfortunately, I have had to listen to a few women virtue signal. Never looked at them the same way, especially since their comments revealed a strong contempt of humanity.
My wife and I used to march our 8 kids arranged by age single file down the grocery store aisle just to see how many climate feminists we could leave fainted on the floor.
It became such an exercise in verbal abuse that we had to suspend such forays into enemy territory.
Hear hear!
PiperPaul
January 30, 2017 at 8:05 pm
“But it has to turn into self-flattery – “Look at me! I’m not having kids because I’m SavingThePlanet™!”
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Q: How can you tell which person in the room owns the Tesla parked outside?
A: He’ll tell you.
Exactly Karabar, this is precisely how the species evolved its intelligence. The dumb ones didn’t breed enough.
if like me those “gullible women” are targeted in their pre teens BY climate conmen allowed to come into schools and be unquestioned in what they told us?
I am one of those gullibles
and my school allowed these basta&rds IN and also the eugenics mobs
from 1970 to 73 we were getting the “new” teachers inspired by mongrels like Hansen ehrlich and strong in our schools.
our parents if they even had any idea? most didnt know, wouldnt have donne anything anyway
you didnt question authority from their perspective the teachers n govt must know more n be right.
thats how it was.
its why I am now so ragingly angry seeing this same sh!t being repeated all over again on a whole new generation.
self correcting problem I think
They’re just signalling their virtue.
+10, unfit for a myriad of reasons
Exactly!
Good point. I sometimes think that many of these women use climate change as an excuse to avoid something they don’t want to do anyway.
Several years ago, there was a couple in Brazil (IIRC) who killed their children and then committed suicide, leaving a note stating that they were too distraught over AGW to continue living and/or to allow their children to experience the negative effects.
I wish I was making that up, even though that would make me a truly despicable person.
Shouldn’t these people be dumping on the Sister Wives guy, Cody, whose really cranking out carbon emitters out by the busload? I mean, talk about exponential growth! And what about Nineteen and Counting? Don’t Michelle and Bob Duggar know when to stop? Haven’t they tuned in to the fact that the planet needs to be saved? I haven’t heard a single mention of the AGW crisis on either show. These families are living in a fantasy world, pouring out CO2 by the megaton while the rest of us have stopped having children. The shame of it all! Oh wait! I forgot. It’s a money-making operation in both cases. Where do I sign up?
I’m very much heartened by two things…
1. The population of those reaching into my wallet to solve a non problem appears to be poised to dwindle in the future. Now there’s a trend I can get behind.
2. “Zahara will likely produce 45,000 pounds of CO2 yearly”. I owe Zahara a debt of gratitude for all that plant food. Thanks for doing your part to feed the world, kid!
She certainly doing more for the people of Somalia rather than staying behind – not that she had much say in the matter I guess
How does Zahara’s anticipated 45k lbs of annual CO2 production compare to our hero AlGore’s? Should I revise upward my “bar” for Personal CO2 production?
The fact that they choose anything around this issue, for any reason, is outrageous. Civilization has become maladaptive. Where has the attraction gone? In the wild-type human, it results in babies, unfailingly. A wild man doesn’t choose anything, he simply can’t resist being chosen. Resistance is painful and futile. The cultured ones feel nothing of the kind. They do everything they can to appear repulsive to the opposite sex (what with tattoos and other kinds of self-mutilation), and then if any natural impulses are not completely inhibited by this poisonous lifestyle, they are killed off with “family planning”. We all know how that is going to end, and yet it gets worse from one generation to the next.
It’s the problem that (eventually) fixes itself.
Such is the insanity of the far-left. What it means is the rest of us need to have significantly more kids to offset the drop-dead stupidity of the leftists.
If the enviro-weenies, who refuse to learn and understand real science, want to remove themselves from the gene pool, that’s just fine. We win; they lose. We win anyhow as the real world and real science are on our side, but removing themselves is poetic.
If only we could as easily convince women in the Islamic world to stop having children!
I don’t think that Islamic women (under Sharia) really have much choice.
“If only we could as easily convince women in the Islamic world to stop having children!”
Nope. Women in Islam cannot refuse their men. The relevant Islamic scripture is:
(Al-Quran 2:223)
Of course, Islam is a fiction created to advance the interests of Iron Age desert barbarians, so why would it surprise anyone that Islam treats women as slaves to be taken whenever their master feels like it.
It takes a little help from males for any female, of any religion, to have babies.
Moa, there is a similar command in the Jewish Bible about how a man may not deprive his wife or a wife deprive her husband. Official punishment was public shaming.
You are reading too much into one statement
It is not in the Jewish part of the Bible (the Old Testament), it is in the Christian part of the Bible (the New Testament). And there was no punishment for not giving the spouse their sexual needs because if both partners had mutual consent they could abstain. The point of the counsel, if you read it, is to provide no excuse for either partner in a marriage to commit adultery. The set of scriptures is clear that it is a recommendation and not a law. To verify for yourself, read 1 Corinthians chapter 7.
It is also important to know ancient culture. In Bible times, there was no Hebrew word for bachelor. Especially before Christ, people married young and had plenty of children. This was a necessity of life. It isn’t like today where you have machines to save labor and doctors. Life was hard work for both husband and wife, and families needed all the help they could muster. Not to mention mortality was high and the Middle East was a hotbed of violence even back then. It is for these reasons that having children became an important part of ancient culture. It was a source of great reproach for a woman to be childless. They needed bodies for the hard labor, for the constant wars, and to replace the lives of those who died young. And civilizations went to war for slave labor.
That is still a little bit true today. In parts of the world they don’t have machines enabled by cheap energy or good doctors. So what do you see? Families with a lot of children and slave labor. Give the people cheap energy and those problems will be solved.
Well, that is not just a little bit arrogant, is it? Scoffing off some 1400 years of history, tradition and culture by saying it is “a fiction created to advance the interests of Iron Age desert barbarians”. Yeah, right. It has only been extremely important to hundreds of millions of people throughout the ages and it still is.
Seriously, are we okay with this. now? Full frontal Islambashing, I mean? Why on earth would one want Islamic women not to have any children, by the way? (Unless buying into the Club of Rome narrative?)
Isn’t it at all possible to criticize religions and religious customs (if that is what one wants, for any reason) without being outright offensive?
Gard,
“Why on earth would one want Islamic women not to have any children, by the way?”
Well, it is pretty simple. The current ratio of martyrs to virgins is now greater than the prescribed reward. They are, or soon will be, running out of appropriate reward in the afterlife. As such, it would be prudent to have less children until societal pressures push the virgin side of the ratio significantly higher.
Can you imagine the resentment if a martyr showed up in heaven and was told he could only have nine virgins…?
(And then for the martyrs that are already there…. “Hey guys, things are changing. But don’t worry, if you like your Virgins you can keep your Virgins; if you like having 72 virgins you can keep 72 virgins.”)
Now think of the angry resentment when the long term, existing, residents of heaven start having their virgins taken away so the newcomers can have an adequate supply.
Silly question Gard.
Scholarly answer, Don.
Well thank you,
There are Islamic cleric scholars that spend their whole lives interpreting and reinterpreting the Koran to provide for for past, present, and even future direction of the Islamic followers.
My interpretation of the Koran may be just as logical as theirs, but to call it scholarly kind of takes away from the lifelong pursuit those Islamic clerics. To avoid insult to the clerics and their scholarly status (which may lead to attempted murder), maybe we should just call my response an interesting study.
(As a side note, there are those that say that a simple phrase mis-interpretation led people to think “virgins” rather than the intended “grapes”. So Islams’ true promise and reward to suicide martyrs is that, in return for killing themselves for the cause they get 72 grapes. A true scholarly change of interpretation for the Islamic community …. Grapes or raisin as reward. With such changes, I feel I could really warm up to Islam.)
Right, religious bigotry is a whole lot of fun, isn’t it. Also, it is in fashion these days. Count me thoroughly out of it.
“Isn’t it at all possible to criticize religions and religious customs (if that is what one wants, for any reason) without being outright offensive?”
Were you ACTUALLY offended? If so, I guess the answer to your question is no.
Oh, come on. Where is your sense of moral decency? I haven’t got the slightest connection to any Moslems whatever, other than that they are my fellow citizens whom I meet on my way to work, at work, at my local grocery store. You know, the majority of them tax-paying, ordinary, good-natured, decent folk. None of them overly obsessed by the thought of virgins in paradise, as far as I know.
Now there is this guy openly wishing that Moslem women would have no children in a public forum and you think that is perfectly all right, don’t you? You obviously do, since you instead choose to ramble on with stories about virgins and grapes that amuse you.
“If only we could as easily convince women in the Islamic world to stop having children!”
I don’t read that comment as a “guy openly wishing that Moslem women would have no children in a public forum”.
Children are enjoyable … and they should be allowed in public areas regardless of their religious upbringing. (If you meant delivering babies … that’s whole ‘nuther story. Personally, I don’t think Moslem women, or women of any religion, should give birth in a public forum).
When I read the guys post, I just assumed “Islamic world” meant areas of the world that are predominantly Moslem, ruled and controlled by church based on Sharia. I do believe that the world would be a better place if women in those areas would have less children and I don’t see any reason not to say that out loud.
I did not read his post as meaning that he thought ALL women in the world, that profess that they are Moslem, should stop having children. Maybe he is saying that, but I don’t begin and end my day looking for reasons to be indignant, so I didn’t see it.
Sure, make fun of my English all you like. If religious bigotry is a fountain of mirth to you, so should foreigners trying to write in your language be. Good luck with your respecting your fellow man; you seem to be doing great with that.
Leo sells his services to the Global Warming crowd, same as paid to advertise watches to him. Allows him to have his private jet and his 482 foot yacht. 482 foot, the way a boat burns fuel its way worst than his jet flying 10 hours to pick up an award….
He could never afford to buy a 482 foot yacht–he just rented it. –AGF
…and rented it from an oil sheikh…
The forces that create these useful idiots are complex, scary, and overwhelming to a large and vulnerable subset of our citizenry that, unfortunately, are so scientifically inept that they cannot string together the simplest logical arguments. Makes one wonder if we shouldn’t encourage them to remain childless and celebrate their selfless contribution toward elevating Earth’s IQ.
+100
“Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe.” – A. Einstein
You have only to listen to the ridiculous ads on radio for dietary supplements, slimming programs and exotic medical treatments with ZERO biological plausibility to know that the bulk of our population now don’t even have the basic “user’s manual” understanding of Life Itself. I’d bet that unless one is on a med or vet track they aren’t even required to take basic biology in high school. The evidence speaks for itself.
I do hope these climate fools commit demographic suicide. I think they as a group deserve a Darwin Award.
I agree, I’m all in favor of progressive fools refusing to breed.
The sad part, in California as well as Germany, is that the lack of young people able to do non-professional jobs leads them to favor the importation of huge numbers of foreign nationals to do this work for them.
western civilization is hell bent on committing suicide for reasons not known to me.
as evidence i present the zero population growth movement (ZPG) of the 1970s and the current movement to save the planet from fossil fuels that threatens to finish the job that the ZPG started.
the migration crisis in europe has both a supply side and a demand side. the demand side arises fertility rate lost because of the dumb europeans’ wholehearted embrace of paul ehrlich’s population bomb and the ZPG that it engendered.
oops.
“the demand side arises from the fertility rate lost ….
Anyone who believes they should not have a child in order to save the earth has proven they are not mature enough for parenthood, and therefore should not have children. Anyone who thinks others should not have children for earths sake is either a racist or a misanthrope.
Or a liberal. Liberal progressives “feel” everyone should believe and act as they do and are willing to use force if necessary to make sure that happens. I’m not a theologian but that sounds a lot like Islam to me.
I’d like to tread carefully here. People who want to “save the planet” are certainly well-meaning and quite honestly, why wouldn’t one want to save the planet?
However, it saddens me that so many have their “save the planet” endeavors miss-directed. A little extra atmospheric CO2 isn’t harming the planet.
Working towards saving the planet is like putting effort into the sun rising in the east every morning. I could spend billions working on it or spend absolutely nothing. The result will be identical.
Nice!! I’m saving that one.
The CAGW farce has shown me what many of you have probably already deduced: many if not most people are incapable of reason, and rather than think they react emotionally to issues, clininging to their first emotional response until the next sound bite comes along to distract them.
hey … it is not possible that my first emotional response to a situation or concept could be wrong. My emotions are valid & therefore must be correct. My logic, and the people I call friends, have always proved my emotions to be correct. 🙂
This is like not having kids because you’re worried about the Earth being hit by an asteroid or the eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano. If you replace global warming with either of the former, you’d be branded as nuts, but global warming–an event much less likely to wipe out humankind–is somehow exempt from this perception.
http://www.vhemt.org/vhemt.gif
The Human Extinction Movement
So the person telling the VHEMT followers what to think is telling them to help make humans go extinct. Didn’t we try that in the 1920s and 1930s? Eugenics and the “isms?”
I’ve always wondered why these people don’t volunteer to go first?
Hmmm, three strikes and I’m out, just Google “The Human Extinction Movement”
Climate Change Jonestown.
If one really cared about the environment, you would raise your children in Ethiopia, where each of them would produce only 221 pounds of CO2 emissions???
This number does not appear to include the CO2 emissions each of those children would emit in the process of metabolizing their food intake.
If one was really serious about saving the planet, not only they could choose not to produce these carbon hungry little creatures around them, they could actually stop breathing themselves. We could then put up a plaque somewhere recognizing those who have made this supreme sacrifice.
In poorer countries with less stable governments, once the Muslim population hits 30 to 50% they start knocking each other off (just supply lots of ammo). Remains to be seen if this will occur in Europe.
When I read that, I thought, yeah, she’d be producing way less of everything. Because she would likely be half-starved, completely malnourished, and living in squalor.
I guess everyone who made the “mistake” of having children should raise them as if they were living in a Third World hellhole. Just think, if parents doubled down and made their boys be child soldiers, the kids might all get rid of each other!
THIS IS NOT A REAL SUGGESTION. I AM MOCKING THE HEARTLESS IMBECILES WHO SEE CHILDREN AS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS EXTERMINATED.
Ever notice that whenever “justice” is used in conjunction with an adjective, the people advocating [blank] justice demand that everyone else sacrifice and change? There is also usually something about destroying those who do not agree – personally, professionally, economically, and sometimes even physically. I now have a Pavlovian response: someone uses the phrase [blank] justice and I stop taking anything they say seriously.
In Australia, we have a saying for times like these, “you poor diddums”.
It says it all, really.
Somebody forward these women the study showing cold weather kills 8 times more people than warm weather. But then they might have kids and raise them to be stupid like they are, so scratch that.
“Climate change is already killing children in the developing world”. So is abortion. Working to reduce abortions would be far more fruitful.
Inverse Darwin Award winners?
“According to Mother Jones, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s daughter Zahara will likely produce 45,000 pounds of CO2 yearly, but that number would shrink to 221 pounds had Zahara stayed in Ethiopia.”
What a disgusting thing to say! Clearly not been to Ethiopia (Or any other similarly developing country). Live Aid should not have happened “Mother Jones”?
Disgusting and vile!
The hypocrisy of progressives is being produced at such a rate that it will probably exist past the heat death of the universe.
They rather like the idea of “primitive culture” and not allowing our modern age to “poison” the purity of it, while never (and I mean ever) volunteering to live in it. Sure, they’ll go for a photo op or two, or a safari (complete with photos in “Hello” or other trash).
They somehow want to condemn the west for not doing enough to help the Third World while pointing out that we all should be living in Third World conditions. Or something, we aren’t talking of the most logical of people.
And that 221 pounds would also be “better” as it would obviously not be for as many years…
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This is all just political hair shirt wearing except in public. You don’t want children that is up to you. Sure it’s for the best. That you need to turn it into a virtue says something not very pleasant about you.
Imagine how silly all the environmentalists will feel after they realize that under no circumstances is warming and co2 bad for life on earth and that even if their ridiculous predictions are true their policy is an attempt to pick current property values in coastal cities over the environment?
Most people who practice a religion only become more attached under apparent attack. so I don’t really expect any realisation from environmentalists.
Expect to see more astroturfed “grass roots” movements relating to not reproducing. Soros loves those kinds of things
Oh my God, theire all gone crazy! Both sides!
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”