Scientists Plan March on Washington

The Debate is Over. By Joe Brusky, source Flickr
The Debate is Over. By Joe Brusky, source Flickr

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Scientists are apparently planning a march on Washington. My question – will anyone notice?

Scientists Are Planning the Next Big Washington March

Last weekend, a massive milieu of women in pink hats descended on Washington, D.C. for the Women’s March. The next big protest being planned for the nation’s capital could involve a sea of lab coats (and likely a few pink hats as well).

A group of researchers have proposed a March for Science. What started as a discussion on Reddit has quickly blossomed into a movement.

The march would be the latest in a string of actions taken by scientists following Donald Trump’s election and his inauguration as president. His administration has been widely viewed as hostile to science — from the transition period through hearings for his cabinet nominees through silencing key federal science agencies and freezing grants.

“This is not a partisan issue. People from all parts of the political spectrum should be alarmed by these efforts to deny scientific progress,” Caroline Weinberg, a medical researcher who is helping organize the march, said. “Scientific research moves us forward and we should not allow asinine policies to thwart it.”

Read more: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/scientists-march-washington-dc-21111

My opinion is these hordes of near zero output climate scientists have a grossly over-inflated view of their value to society.

If sanitary workers go on strike, within days the cities are a stinking rat infested nightmare. If doctors go on strike, sick people die. If farmers go on strike, people starve. If police go on strike, law and order breaks down.

If climate scientists go on strike – the food still arrives, laws are enforced, sick people still receive medical treatment, and the garbage still gets collected.

I’m not saying science, even pure science, has no value. When scientists produce a breakthrough, it can be world changing. Scientific research, especially research with commercial applications, is vitally important to maintaining economic growth.

But look at climate science specifically. 30 years and climate scientists are no closer to closing the joke size range of their climate sensitivity estimate. Worse, there is substantial evidence climate scientists are ignoring indications that most of their climate sensitivity estimates are way too high.

If sanitary workers go on strike the effect is immediate and brutal, but climate scientists could walk off the job for a decade, and the only consequence to ordinary people would be a slightly smaller tax bill.

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January 25, 2017 11:06 pm

About 35 hours from now the annual March For Life will take place. Every year it is one of the largest demonstrations in Washington, DC, but the press largely ignores it, even though they’ll undoubtedly lavish attention on the leftist demonstration for politicized science.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/01/25/shocker-networks-give-129-times-more-coverage-to-womens-march-than-march-for-life-n2276803
https://www.google.com/search?q=march+for+life+washington+dc+-dublin&tbm=isch
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/30/article-2301374-18C9D470000005DC-155_634x324.jpg

Reply to  daveburton
January 30, 2017 3:40 am

This year was the first time I attended the March for Life in DC. That photo (from a previous year) doesn’t begin to capture the scale of the thing. It was mammoth.
I snapped quite a few pictures, but the “crowd shots” weren’t my favorites. This was my favorite:
http://www.sealevel.info/IMG_20170127_132932_tightly_cropped.jpg

David Cage
January 25, 2017 11:10 pm

I think it would be better if Trump met the scientists and told them that if the science is beyond question then they will not mind say half the previous spend on climate science going to research into the quality of climate science. If this does not turn up any evidence of questionable data or predictions of normal climate then he will accept it as proven and transfer the money to engineering departments for research into renewable energy that provides power when needed.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  David Cage
January 26, 2017 6:14 am

Ask research folks to do that? The fox guarding the hen house? No. I suggest just ending funding for it.

Reply to  David Cage
January 26, 2017 10:13 am

I’d suggest that he simply say Federally funded climate science will be limited to the basic physic involved. Any other monies will go directly to research into dispatchable, renewable energy(nuclear). Nuclear power including some breeder reactors to produce fuel could become a massive energy resource.

David Cage
January 25, 2017 11:16 pm

For a start no matter how high the qualification the claim the science is beyond question excludes them from claiming to be a scientist. Science requires theory to match observation without “adjustments” that in engineering are called fiddle factors.

Darrell Demick
Reply to  David Cage
January 26, 2017 8:07 am

Or SWAG.
But in their case, the “S” is truly missing ……

Alex
January 25, 2017 11:43 pm

People that ‘discuss’ stuff on redit have rather over-inflated egos. The ones that discuss climate science ( I use the term loosely) are the most rabid of them all. They think the world is going to end yesterday. Apparently, we all live in a post-apocalyptic world where we have to fight climate zombies to survive.
I do go on Redit sometimes, particularly when I’m really, really bored and my bladder isn’t full enough to go to the toilet.
The cat pictures are cool.

Streetcred
January 25, 2017 11:57 pm

I’m fascinated why “scientists” think a white coat identifies them … most of them have never seen the inside of a true laboratory where white coats are mandatory for protectings one clothes. I’d more clearly label these posers as lab rats … part of a Soros social experiment.

Alex
Reply to  Streetcred
January 26, 2017 12:04 am

How can you be pretentious without a white labcoat?

drednicolson
Reply to  Streetcred
January 26, 2017 3:30 pm

The white collar and cassock had already been done, so the self-ordained clergy of the CAGW faith chose the white lab coat for their vestment.

Roger Knights
January 26, 2017 12:02 am

The march and the sign will give networks an opportunity to invite the protestors to a debate series with climate contrarians.

Alex
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 26, 2017 12:10 am

The opportunity has always been there for networks. They just didn’t take it. Their audience has the attention span of chimpanzees. After a 30 second debate, it will be finished off with ‘There you have it folks, full story at 9.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Alex
January 26, 2017 7:10 am

Until now, if a network had sponsored a debate, it would have been slammed for “giving d*ni*rs a platform.” Now, with the sign’s claim that “the debate is over,” a network is more “covered” in making such an invitation. In addition, the debatability of the CAGW hypothesis is now “on the table,” given Trump’s actions.

Darrell Demick
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 26, 2017 7:57 am

That will never happen. A fellow “denier” who gave a presentation a while ago was asked if, given the opportunity, he would debate climate change with David Suzuki (Canadian).
His response was excellent: “I would love to, but I am 100% certain that Mr. Suzuki would never attend.”

Green Sand
January 26, 2017 12:08 am

What are they hoping to achieve? Prove a scientific hypothesis by ‘marching’ in Washington, DC? Well I suppose if the scientific method comes up with a blank, then what is left for a committed earner?

Alex
Reply to  Green Sand
January 26, 2017 12:13 am

‘Look at me, look at me, I’m on TV’

ToddF
January 26, 2017 12:12 am

I saw no scientists at that website. I did see a website with “Political” Science written all over it, though.

commieBob
January 26, 2017 12:33 am

I’m not saying science, even pure science, has no value. When scientists produce a breakthrough, it can be world changing. Scientific research, especially research with commercial applications, is vitally important to maintaining economic growth.

Most people don’t get that. According to the Malthusians and the Club of Rome, we should have run out of a couple of strategic materials by now and society should have collapsed back to the stone age. Why didn’t it happen?
We haven’t run out of any strategic materials because we keep developing technology. If a material becomes too expensive, we find a way to use less, or we find more of that material, or we find a way to use a different material. That process relies on the development of science and technology. We have a tiger by the tail because, if that process stops, we are in big trouble. link
By subverting science, the warmists are actually putting our survival at risk. They have a lot to answer for.

AndyG55
January 26, 2017 1:15 am

Love those saw-tooth graphs, they absolutely DESTROY the CO2 warming anti-science.
They show that at its maximum, CO2 CANNOT maintain maximum temperature.
In fact, at CO2 maximums, the temperature actually declines.
End of Game..
End of FARCE !!

Graemethecat
Reply to  AndyG55
January 26, 2017 2:18 am

..and not forgetting the 800-year lag between rising global temperatures and higher atmospheric CO2 concentration. Higher temperatures cause increased atmospheric CO2, not the other way round. How do proponents of CAGW explain that away?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 26, 2017 2:34 am

“Graemethecat January 26, 2017 at 2:18 am
How do proponents of CAGW explain that away?”
By sticking their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes and minds and chanting “blah blah blah but the models say…blah blah blah”! Settled science!

Darrell Demick
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 26, 2017 7:53 am

Proponents of CAGW are the followers of a cult religion.
Think heaven’s Gate.
Think the late David Coresh at Ranch Apocalypse.
This cult religion is finally being exposed for what it truly is. Praise the Lord!!!

MarkW
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 26, 2017 8:00 am

They explain it away by declaring that while something else may have started the warming and that caused CO2 to be released from the oceans, at that point the unknown something faded away and CO2 took over.
How do they know this? Because the models have proven that CO2 control temperature.

Darrell Demick
Reply to  AndyG55
January 26, 2017 7:55 am

A “greenhouse gas”, it is not!
CO2 is plant food – take six CO2, add six water, add sunlight and presto, you have sugar and six O2. That is the scientific truth surrounding CO!

Darrell Demick
Reply to  Darrell Demick
January 26, 2017 8:35 am

Arrrrgh!!! Last one should be CO2. Sorry about my bad typing skills ….

POQ
January 26, 2017 1:35 am

Let’s be blunt. Some folk are just stupid. Some of them are “scientists” who never learned what science is about and never read Aldous Huxley.
On to the wankathon.

Darrell Demick
Reply to  POQ
January 26, 2017 7:51 am

Yup POQ, and I can fix a lot of things, but I cannot fix stupid.
Hopefully the march turns into a “lemming relate” affair ……

ironargonaut
January 26, 2017 1:57 am

Ouch, but true.

Patrick MJD
January 26, 2017 2:09 am

Notice how the word debate is in ” “? Meaning there was no debate and no debate was ever desired. The politics is in. The politics are clear.

knr
January 26, 2017 2:17 am

Can you blame them , AGW has been the means by which third rate ‘scientists’ have gained first rate lifestyles, with many of them otherwise basically unemployable . And who would want to see their area of science filled with people with such poor academic practice and such massive over inflated ego’s if for no other reason that they have enough of the latter already .
All in or get out , that is there options.

George Lawson
January 26, 2017 2:21 am

” Caroline Weinberg, a medical researcher who is helping organize the march,”
No one told me that the President was curtailing medical research!

Martin Mason
January 26, 2017 2:25 am

Just for info it was Napoleon XIV that was coming to take him away. 🙂

willhaas
January 26, 2017 2:29 am

The 97% is meaningless because science is not a democracy but is is also not factual since scientists never registered and voted on the AGW conjecture. Despite the hype there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate. Yes, Mankind has caused an increase in the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere but has no effect on climate. There is plenty of scientific reasoning to support the idea that the climate sensivity of CO2 is really zero. The AGW conjecture depends upon the existance of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by the LWIR absorption properties of so called greenhouse gases. The reality is that such a radiant greenhouse effect does not exist in a greenhouse, anywhere on Earth, on Venus, or anywhere in the solar system. Because a radiant greenhouse effect does not exist the AGW conjecture is science fiction. The blackboard represents a collection of misconceptions.

hunter
January 26, 2017 2:30 am

Most of the people marching will be pretend scientists. President Trump should dismiss them by ignoring them. Hit first. Hit hard. Hit often.

Darrell Demick
Reply to  hunter
January 26, 2017 7:47 am

Based on the quintillion bytes of video data that will be available post-march, employ the best facial recognition software and order a great big batch of pink slips ……

Darrell Demick
Reply to  Darrell Demick
January 26, 2017 7:49 am

Of course the database size referenced in the previous post is a SWAG. Better scientific input than these supposed climate “scientists”, mind you.

High Treason
January 26, 2017 2:42 am

The crooked climate scientists who pump out junk science for $$$ will do anything to avoid the truth being revealed. Look forward to more desperation measures to maintain the lie. Look forward to more and more rallies to try to overturn Trump and his march to expose the lies.

arthur4563
January 26, 2017 3:16 am

Notice the white lab jackets – that shows THESE GUYS ARE REAL SCIENTISTS.

Resourceguy
Reply to  arthur4563
January 26, 2017 10:25 am

If there are activist volunteers or actors, then they need extra extra long sleeves.

CheshireRed
January 26, 2017 3:28 am

These are the same guys who’ve spent at least a decade closing down free speech on the very subject they want to march about in order to retain free speech. Let them; the debate suddenly becomes live again and then, well, we all know the outcome when well-informed sceptics go up against alarmists. We win every single time. So yeah, bring it on.

January 26, 2017 3:45 am

. The proposed protest march being planned for Washington could well take place in some really nastly cold weather. With luck it could tirn into something like Napoleon’s retreat from Moscow,. Hopefully they will be dressed in Lab Coats and silly Pink Caps. A good cull of these ‘Scientists’ could well be the shot in the arm that real Science needs..

Dave Fair
Reply to  ntesdorf
January 26, 2017 11:18 am

When I was in the U.S. Army, we called our equivalent of the Pink Caps C-Caps. Just sayin’.

tony mcleod
January 26, 2017 4:07 am

If sanitary workers go on strike the effect is immediate and brutal, but climate scientists could walk off the job for a decade, and the only consequence to ordinary people would be a slightly smaller tax bill.
But opinionated bloggers, we definitely could do with a few more of them.

gnomish
Reply to  tony mcleod
January 26, 2017 4:58 am

and paid commenters. they are the baptist/bootlegger combo of the 21st century!
and of course, the CEO of Click a Claque is rakin it in.
click bait catches fish!

MarkW
Reply to  tony mcleod
January 26, 2017 8:03 am

If you don’t like it, you are free to leave.

ClimateOtter
Reply to  MarkW
January 26, 2017 12:10 pm

Mark, except for his last sentence, tony was almost on target. I think the tax bill will be even smaller than he thinks.

Thomho
January 26, 2017 4:11 am

I noticed top of their chart said “The Debate is over”
Really they need to careful of slogans like that
The incoming CEO of Australia’s CSIRO
our premier Aust Govt owned and funded
Research Institute picked up on our scientists claim that the “Science is Settled”
Right he said in that case you wont be
needing to do any more climate research
thus freeing up positions and funds for
other more useful research
You possibly heard the screaming from America by our outraged climate scientists who had not quite been expecting to be taken literally
when they claimed “the science is settled”

Graham
January 26, 2017 4:13 am

“If sanitary workers go on strike…”
They are. They’re not fit to be called scientists when you consider what they peddle.

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