Scientists Plan March on Washington

The Debate is Over. By Joe Brusky, source Flickr

The Debate is Over. By Joe Brusky, source Flickr

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Scientists are apparently planning a march on Washington. My question – will anyone notice?

Scientists Are Planning the Next Big Washington March

Last weekend, a massive milieu of women in pink hats descended on Washington, D.C. for the Women’s March. The next big protest being planned for the nation’s capital could involve a sea of lab coats (and likely a few pink hats as well).

A group of researchers have proposed a March for Science. What started as a discussion on Reddit has quickly blossomed into a movement.

The march would be the latest in a string of actions taken by scientists following Donald Trump’s election and his inauguration as president. His administration has been widely viewed as hostile to science — from the transition period through hearings for his cabinet nominees through silencing key federal science agencies and freezing grants.

“This is not a partisan issue. People from all parts of the political spectrum should be alarmed by these efforts to deny scientific progress,” Caroline Weinberg, a medical researcher who is helping organize the march, said. “Scientific research moves us forward and we should not allow asinine policies to thwart it.”

Read more: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/scientists-march-washington-dc-21111

My opinion is these hordes of near zero output climate scientists have a grossly over-inflated view of their value to society.

If sanitary workers go on strike, within days the cities are a stinking rat infested nightmare. If doctors go on strike, sick people die. If farmers go on strike, people starve. If police go on strike, law and order breaks down.

If climate scientists go on strike – the food still arrives, laws are enforced, sick people still receive medical treatment, and the garbage still gets collected.

I’m not saying science, even pure science, has no value. When scientists produce a breakthrough, it can be world changing. Scientific research, especially research with commercial applications, is vitally important to maintaining economic growth.

But look at climate science specifically. 30 years and climate scientists are no closer to closing the joke size range of their climate sensitivity estimate. Worse, there is substantial evidence climate scientists are ignoring indications that most of their climate sensitivity estimates are way too high.

If sanitary workers go on strike the effect is immediate and brutal, but climate scientists could walk off the job for a decade, and the only consequence to ordinary people would be a slightly smaller tax bill.

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LewSkannen

The longer they strike the better.

brians356

Who’s going to pay the carbon taxes on their plane flights to DC? Are they planning on being reimbursed by their employers for business trips? Any who work for the government or universities need close scrutiny. Love the resuscitated hockey stick graph on that sign! It proves At a glance that 2016 was actually twice as warm as 1998, not fractionally as we all reckon. Who knew?

brians356

Wait, what? That chalkboard graph shows CO2, not temperature. Yes, the science there is settled, CO2 is up to 400 PPM, uh huh, yep. But the implication that 400 ppm is unprecedented? Not so much.

Phil B

Oh God I hope they’re marching in DC and get hit with a massive blizzard and some of them lose limbs to frost bite. I can’t think of a more perfect final nail in their alarmist coffins than their march being utterly destroyed by the cold.

PaulH

I think the question is, who is paying for their plane flights/hotel accommodation/meals, etc? They seem to have an unending source of money for these stunts.

Cube

So according to that pic, for the last 400,000 years CO2 was never above 200 ppm?

The first thing I thought when I saw the photo was “thay lying graph. Whoever drew it really learned how to misuse statistics.” 1950 was the middle of a drop in temperature ~.2 degC, so the real rise ’til today is ~.4 degC. On the Kelvin scale, which thermodynamics operates 0.4deg corresponds to 0.0014%- an insignificant number. We have no way to measure that kind of change on a global basis. It’s particularly insignificant because the climate operates on flows of energy, not temperature differences.

PiperPaul

hit with a massive blizzard and some of them lose limbs to frost bite
Jeez, that’s funny!

brians356: Who’s going to pay …?
I wonder about this question also. There was a “Spontaneous protest” in several cities in the US last night with lighted signs and posters. “Spontaneous”??? Yeah right. Who organized the “protests”? Who paid for all the signs and travel? Watching the news, it looked like someone had planned these “spontaneous protests” for a considerable length of time.
So, I am sure that certain individuals or groups would be inclined to provide funding for a march by “Climate Scientists”.
It appears that a lot of folks are invested in going after the new administration.
Not a conspiracy theory, just an observation.
The below is old news but it seems to confirm the process.
http://www.infowars.com/blocks-of-anti-trump-protest-buses-caught-on-tape/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/trump-protests-intensify-as-doubts-swirl-about-spontaneity.html

Next up ? — March For Art, … then March For Energy.
Scientists’ Lives Matter … Artists’ Lives Matter
I’m an artist, by the way, among other things, … definitely NOT a climate … “scientist”.

Pierre Vallieres

I am a Professional Artist, I draw unemployment insurance.

Phil R

Pierre Vallieres,

I am a Professional Artist, I draw unemployment insurance.

I am a professional comedian. I draw humor from your response. :>)

Stephen Greene

This is not science, this is ACTIVISM!

Danny Thomas

Meh. Women scientists have already been there and done that.
““It’s DOCTOR Big Tits to You!”” https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/the-women-scientists-standing-up-to-trump/514094/

Goldrider

This is nothing more than the “flash-mob” effect due to social media. It’s why we’re suddenly plagued with a “group” for just about everything. Most of them only have pseudo-existence on Facebook or some similar platform. Yelling “Yeah, yeah, yeah!” from your keyboard is a little different than taking time off from work, paying for plane, hotel, and meals, just to make an asshat of yourself in the streets. The way to defeat this nonsense is to IGNORE these mindless, juvenile “protests.”

Dave Fair

It is no longer “asshat.” It is now “vaghat.”
Thousands of unaware women parading their crudity on international TV. Potential employers, spouses, etc. may not appreciate being associated with someone wearing that on their head.

Shooter

Those women are going to start ‘sitting down’ when they find themselves out of a job and unemployable :^)

Let them eat cake!

M Seward

That’s all the bloody do anyway. These so called climate scientists are the brioche scoffing brats of the 21st century.

William

This may explain why someone with a science PhD usually earns less than someone who hits a ball with a stick for a living
Fries with that?

eyesonu

The value of a “Post hole Digger (PhD)” is greatly devalued if they don’t have enough sense to know how to use it.

Richard Saumarez

+10

Stephen Greene

BS – Bull Shit
MS – More Shit
PhD – Piled higher n Deeper

TRM

I thought it was “Piled Higher & Deeper” ?? As in BSc=Bull Sheep complete; MS = More of Same and finally PHD
🙂

Hey, maybe that’s the fluidity of language. When I earned by Bachelor’s degree in chemistry, it was bull stuff, more [of] same, then piled higher and deeper.

Not Chicken Little

Well, if they wear white lab coats when they march, that means they must know what they’re talking about…

Not Chicken Little

And just why do “climate scientists” need white lab coats? Are they doing “scientific” experiments in a lab utilizing the scientific method? Uh, that’s a rhetorical question…

Ill Tempered Klavier

Remember, the lab coat long ago became not just the uniform, but the dress uniform of the scientist. 😉 😉
See C. Northcote Parkinson”s essay about it. 😉 😉

Roger Knights

A lab coat is the empower’s New Clothing.

Just keep letting these idiot leftists, communists, anarchists, racists (in the guise of tolerant, loving, democrats, etc.) social justice warriors, “scientists???”, and all the other a-holes room to hang themselves with their idiocy and hatred for reason, the laws and logic. They keep demonstrating how stupid, divisive, immoral and against freedom and real democracy they stand for.

1saveenergy

I thought the guy in the white coat was selling ice-cream

Latitude

The question is: what kind of hats are they going to wear

What kind of hats are they going to wear? … That’s easy:comment image

… and just for clarity, from Wikipedia (I think we might trust them for this):
In the late 1940s, science fiction fanzine artist Ray Nelson (himself still in high school) adopted the use of the propeller beanie as emblematic shorthand for science fiction fandom. This was in self-mockery of the popular image of fans as childish and concerned with ephemera (such as science fiction).

MarkW

Either that or they are pretending to be doctors.

Darrell Demick

Great point, Mark W.
At least medical doctors are an honest bunch, they “practice” medicine. These climate clowns are so divorced from reality, it is just mind boggling!

The good ones are honest and humble, for sure. Medical doctors are still human and make mistakes. Decisions have to be made in light of major uncertainty and getting it wrong may result in death. Heck, even getting it right may result in death. They are certainly subject to fads, just like the rest of humanity. Most are trained well enough to spot seriously flawed studies, given enough time to do some due diligence work. Their necks are definitely on the legal line here in the US.

MarkW

I was thinking about the photo-op the Democrats held in support of ObamaCare while it was still being “debated” in congress. It was advertised as doctors in support of ObamaCare, and the organizers gave lab coats to everyone in attendence, without checking to see who was or wasn’t a doctor.
Lots of congress critters were photographed in lab coats.

starknakedtruth

You forgot to mention the fashion accessories with their white jackets–purple gloves and nerdy black glasses!

Gerry, England

It will make it very difficult to spot them in the blizzard though. I hope the snowblower drivers are careful.

This should be a march of scientists demanding an apology for disseminating lies and defective science… or are we there yet? LETS DO IT!!!
For details on what to chant about, see Paullitely.com and on YouTube, Adapt 2030.

Pop Piasa

Eric, I think you’ve brought up the subject that the garbage collectors are more relevant than the garbage emitters in science.

Janice Moore

The clown parade passing by in the streets below will not change one iota what the adults inside the office buildings will do.
Just another “look at me” pompous display by the not-quite-rational pseudo-science knaves and their wretched dupes.
Pathetic.

Leonard Lane

Janice:
Yes it is “look at me”, irrational climate seance, and more riff-raft littering the streets and parks. With each such nonsense event their impact shrinks.

The scientists are revolting!

MarkW

They stink on ice.

PiperPaul

You were waiting for this, weren’t you?comment image

Wussy Hats?

Bubba Cow

good to see, Max is back!

oeman50

Love it, Max.

Dave Fair

Spelled with a P?

Ben D

“I just can’t believe we’re having to yell, ‘Science is real.’”
Impressive proof yes? lol.

Janice Moore

Lol, the debate is over. The debate never happened to any meaningful degree:
Whether it’s Gavin Schmt or, Al Gore, AGWers run away when challenged to debate.

(youtube)
Climate Clowns for Hire — We do Tricks! 🙂

Chris

They are not obligated to debate anyone who challenges them, especially someone who claimed to have cured HIV. Are vaccine scientists obligated to debate those who say that vaccines cause autism? Of course not.

MarkW

The fact that they refuse to debate anyone who disagrees with them is quite telling.
The fact that you equate disagreeing about CAGW with the vaccines cause autism group is also quite telling.

After trying to read Willis’s article with all the trolls in full strut; I was wondering what moon phase is tonight”
Why, we’re entering a new moon phase. No wonder.

“Chris January 26, 2017 at 10:39 am
They are not obligated to debate anyone who challenges them”

Alarmist: “Debate is over!”
Other: “What debate?”
Alarmist: “Why the CAGW debate on what caused global warming.”
Other: “That’s odd, I never heard of any CAGW debate. When did that occur?”
Other: “Nor have we heard of any definitive proof(s) proving either catastrophic or human caused global warming.”
Alarmist: “Why there never was a debate! It is a position we’ve taken.”
Alarmist: “Plus, we decided that since everybody should be taxed to fund climate science, we do not need to waste money on simple proof.”
Other: “That is not science. Let us debate this CAGW science”
Alarmist: “Never! Why debating a denier, which is how we decided to demean real scientists, implies we will lower ourselves to that level.”
Other: “Then there never was a debate, so calling the debate over is specious and sophistry.”
No debate, the debate is not over.
That is falsehood promulgated by religious advocates believing in CAGW.
Nearly thirty years have passed.
Without the dreaded global warming actually occurring. i.e. Everywhere in the world should be watching daily records fall by a CAGW caused amount. It is not happening. Incredibly, global warming records only appear to fall when history is adjusted, the temperature record is short or temperature stations are badly located.
That has not happened.
Snow is still with us.
The Arctic still has ice cover.
Greenland is fully frozen.
Antarctica is still frozen.
The deep seas are still very cold.
None of wildlife is endangered by CAGW changing climate.
Rains still falls. (Drought was and often still is claimed to increase)
Storms are not worse or more frequent.
Tornadoes are not more powerful or more frequent.
No populations are migrating because of CAGW.
No deaths can be ascribed directly to CAGW.
CAGW is still a religion, not science. No debate, no science, no proof(s), no evidence, no real CAGW.

Patrick MJD

“Chris January 26, 2017 at 10:39 am
They are not obligated to debate anyone who challenges them, especially someone who claimed to have cured HIV.”
And then there is the case of people in Africa who seem immune to HIV, prostitutes in fact. The human body is an amazing machine.

That “debate is over” chalkboard is the sort of meme we ought to all agree is antithetical to science.
The reason those folks prefer political demonstrations to scientific debate is that the facts are against them. Scientific evidence indicates anthropogenic global warming is real, modest & benign; anthropogenic CO2 is beneficial; and neither sea-level rise (SLR) nor extreme weather (the main supposed negative consequences of AGW) are accelerating.
Here’s one of the best sea-level measurement records in the world — where there’s been no SLR acceleration in >150 years:
http://www.sealevel.info/120-022_Wismar_2017-01_150yrs.png
The green trace is CO2. It’s up ~40%, yet has not affected SLR.
Here’s an interactive version:
http://tinyurl.com/WismarSL
No high-quality, long-term measurement record of coastal sea-level, anywhere in the world, shows significant SLR acceleration in the last 85 years. That means SLR cannot be substantially driven by anthropogenic CO2.
The same is true for “extreme weather” — no increase coincident with the increase in CO2:
http://policlimate.com/tropical/frequency_12months.png
But the leftists don’t care about real scientific evidence. These folks plan to “march for science” now, when there are signs that real science may actually play a role in policy-making, after eight yrs of Washington DC trampling science under politics’ heel. SMH.

Hivemind

They’re protesting to prevent real science from having a role in policy-making. By bullying Trump into giving their fake science a free pass.

Geoff Sherrington

Dave B
Should you not stress that this sea water in the ocean basins is analogy for mercury in a glass tube? If the temperature changes, the volume of each fluid changes, instantly and to an amount that can be confidently calculated with physics.
(But OTOH, for the oceans case, there is so little observation of the deeper half of the oceans that murder and mayhem could be quietly happening to change to basin volume at a rate just neat enough to be tricky – like similar to what warming might do.)

Uh, Geoff, the oceans aren’t constrained in a sealed tube. They also are the major part of the climate system and hold all the cards except the 2 of spades- energy, mass, volume, heat capacity, mass movement. The last 2% is the atmosphere moving the incident solar effects back out to the top of the atmosphere to keep the temperature balance close to zero.

Geoff Sherrington

phillohippous,
Agreed, the analogy is general not specific.
I still stress that so little is known about the deep ocean and its geometry change. We know that new islands appear in shallow oceans. There are like to be other types of geometric change as well.This has the potential to change ‘sea level’ in wauys not yet in the equations.
The assumption that all is well with present models is so anti-science that various climate authors should be ashamed. Just because you cannot measure a known variable conveniently or well, there is no excuse to ignore it and ‘hope’ it will not matter.
So we continue to have the physical science corrupted by wishful thinking ani-science.
Lament the scientif method.
Geoff
p.s Simply, it is like police sending out a description of a wanted person to get public help to find the perp, but failing to mention that perp has only one arm

Pamela Gray

The spliced graph on the blackboard is fraudulent. But I suppose that won’t be mentioned during the march.

Pat Frank

You’re a chemist, aren’t you Pamela? So why do they have a structure for 2,3,8-trimethylnaphthalene on an AGW-demo chalkboard? And what’s with the aniline and nitrobenzene on the lower left? Exotic heat-enhancers, or what?

Janice Moore

Neat comment. And great question for Pamela, Pat! Wish she would respond (it would be a good read, no doubt).
Well (just a non-tech’s take based on secondary characteristics), aniline smells like rotten fish…. nitrobenzene is a precursor to aniline (so, more rotten fish on the way)….
Conclusion: there’s a stealth science realist among the rank ranks of Rotten Science (with a sense of humor).
#(:))

I couldn’t really see if you’re correct about the diagrammed chemicals, unless, wait…. I can see something potentially destructive being made using those three chemicals Pat mentions …. ugh.

Pat Frank

cdq, the naphthalene is just down to the right of “Scientists Agree!!!!” And the other two molecules are just under the low point of the first glacial period.
Good observations, Janice. 🙂 Aniline is also pretty toxic, and nitrobenzene smells awful. Toxic and stinky — that pretty much describes the bequest of AGW, doesn’t it. 🙂

SAMURAI

“If sanitary workers go on strike, within days the cities are a stinking rat infested nightmare. If doctors go on strike, sick people die. If farmers go on strike, people starve. If police go on strike, law and order breaks down.”
Perhaps businessmen should go on strike so the world can test Obama’s premise that, “You didn’t build that”….
“Who is John Galt?”

Leonard Lane

I must admit that I would miss my garbage man much more than my mayor

+1 That’s going into my “quotes & aphorisms” file.

NW sage

And I tip my garbage man more than I tip my mayor too!

TykeClone

“Perhaps businessmen should go on strike so the world can test Obama’s premise that, “You didn’t build that”….”
They did. That is why the economy has not recovered at anywhere near the rate of a normal postwar recovery, and why the markets have taken off after the election

Michael Sexton

The sign says the debate is over.
Was that on tv, cause I missed it.

i have a new climate research funding plan
for every dollar funding a climate alarmism there must be a dollar of funding for climate denialism..
it might not take too long for half of the marchers to switch sides.

Jeff L

It would appear these marchers do not know the difference between scientific method / scientific thought process and political methods / political processes. Good science doesn’t need a march to gain support but a political movement just might.

Pamela Gray

My favorite comment. Ever.

I always thought that when your hypothesis was disproven or not provable that the next step was to go back and modify the hypothesis until it explained the experimental data. The new next step is apparently to march on Washington with a cool looking chalkboard. Now I know why they’re called ‘progressives’. Wait, progressives does mean insufferable whiners, right?

drednicolson

I think it means “sore winners, sorer losers”. 🙂

J Mac

Political theater, pretending to be science….

MarkW

On Willis’s post we have a couple of posers whining about how this site has been politicizing science.

A march of client scientists would be a very small march indeed. There are very few worthy of the name.

David Cage

For a start no matter how high the qualification the claim the science is beyond question excludes them from claiming to be a scientist. Science requires theory to match observation without “adjustments” that in engineering are called fiddle factors.

Darrell Demick

Or SWAG.
But in their case, the “S” is truly missing ……

RBom

Can’t wait to see:
John Holdren with a large sub-group at the White House Gate where he will make a REALLY BIG speech in front of MSM WaPo and NYT to denounce the President, The Cabinet, The Government and The Country, and throw his WH security badge over the Gate (Persona Non Gratis, boo hoo).
Then, the OLD GIRL’S CLUB of AGU, AMS, APS, AAAS and NAS “CEO’s” will hoist their bras and tampons into a central pile, Al Gore will place a paper mannequin of Trump on the pile, Mikey Mann then douses the mannequin and bra/tampon pile with kerosene and Jimmy Hansen lights it up with a Bic singing “Amazing Grace” and everyone joins in.
What a spectacle of Phantasmagoria by the AGW astrologers.
Popcorn a popping. Ha ha

drednicolson

Then somebody asks why they used kerosene on their bonfire when they’re supposed to be against the burning of fossil fuels, resulting in a very awkward pause.

MarkW

If you watch them, it becomes obvious that they are only opposed to other people using fossil fuels.
Just like socialists are only opposed to other people becoming wealthy.

We should all go there and challenge them to re-open the debate they so emphatically and defensively claim is over and convince us and the public (that they no doubt expect to be in attendance at their pointless march in large numbers); why and how their so called ‘science’ proves it’s over…
Challenge them with something simple, i.e. You will of course take this ideal opportunity to present to us all here: the indisputable facts supported by empirical evidence, proving indeed: THE “DEBATE” IS OVER!

Some sciences are of great value and others are not. See http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/06/theres_no_grand102935.html
By marching, these people expose themselves to the risk that more citizens will come to realize that their branches of science are of negligible value, and that their fields are more driven by politics than reality.

Johnny Terawatt

Can I knit some snowflake hats for them?

Streetcred

Beaver hats, Johnny!

Has the April Fool’s Day arrived to Washing DC already?

Apologies for the typo. Washington DC. The ex-capital of planet GIGO.

MarkW

On the other hand, it does need a good cleaning after 8 years of Obama.

Terry

Gotta love the White Lab Coat. He must be a scientist who knows what he is talking about.

David Cage

Does anyone remember the lovely politically incorrect song about the nice young men in their little white coats are coming to take me away?

HoHo..HeHe…HaHa.
Scaffold. Paul McArtney’s brother if memory serves me.

Angus Harris

‘They’re coming to take me away’ by Napoleon XIV.

AndyG55

Lab coats are for REAL scientists usually doing REAL chemistry, to protect their day clothes.
I doubt that even one single “climate scientist™” has EVER done any chemistry.
You DO NOT need a lab coat when sitting in front of a computer. !!!

Pat Frank

My jeans always had lab-work holes in them. 🙂

Same with medical doctors, who need to keep blood and other body fluid contamination of their regular clothes minimized, though there are the paper gowns that are preferred these days.

Chris Hanley

If the debate is over, the facts in and the evidence clear, their job is done their role no longer necessary, I wouldn’t be shouting about it if I were them.

About 35 hours from now the annual March For Life will take place. Every year it is one of the largest demonstrations in Washington, DC, but the press largely ignores it, even though they’ll undoubtedly lavish attention on the leftist demonstration for politicized science.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/01/25/shocker-networks-give-129-times-more-coverage-to-womens-march-than-march-for-life-n2276803
https://www.google.com/search?q=march+for+life+washington+dc+-dublin&tbm=isch
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/30/article-2301374-18C9D470000005DC-155_634x324.jpg

This year was the first time I attended the March for Life in DC. That photo (from a previous year) doesn’t begin to capture the scale of the thing. It was mammoth.
I snapped quite a few pictures, but the “crowd shots” weren’t my favorites. This was my favorite:
http://www.sealevel.info/IMG_20170127_132932_tightly_cropped.jpg

David Cage

I think it would be better if Trump met the scientists and told them that if the science is beyond question then they will not mind say half the previous spend on climate science going to research into the quality of climate science. If this does not turn up any evidence of questionable data or predictions of normal climate then he will accept it as proven and transfer the money to engineering departments for research into renewable energy that provides power when needed.

Pamela Gray

Ask research folks to do that? The fox guarding the hen house? No. I suggest just ending funding for it.

I’d suggest that he simply say Federally funded climate science will be limited to the basic physic involved. Any other monies will go directly to research into dispatchable, renewable energy(nuclear). Nuclear power including some breeder reactors to produce fuel could become a massive energy resource.

Alex

People that ‘discuss’ stuff on redit have rather over-inflated egos. The ones that discuss climate science ( I use the term loosely) are the most rabid of them all. They think the world is going to end yesterday. Apparently, we all live in a post-apocalyptic world where we have to fight climate zombies to survive.
I do go on Redit sometimes, particularly when I’m really, really bored and my bladder isn’t full enough to go to the toilet.
The cat pictures are cool.

Streetcred

I’m fascinated why “scientists” think a white coat identifies them … most of them have never seen the inside of a true laboratory where white coats are mandatory for protectings one clothes. I’d more clearly label these posers as lab rats … part of a Soros social experiment.

Alex

How can you be pretentious without a white labcoat?

drednicolson

The white collar and cassock had already been done, so the self-ordained clergy of the CAGW faith chose the white lab coat for their vestment.

Roger Knights

The march and the sign will give networks an opportunity to invite the protestors to a debate series with climate contrarians.

Alex

The opportunity has always been there for networks. They just didn’t take it. Their audience has the attention span of chimpanzees. After a 30 second debate, it will be finished off with ‘There you have it folks, full story at 9.

Roger Knights

Until now, if a network had sponsored a debate, it would have been slammed for “giving d*ni*rs a platform.” Now, with the sign’s claim that “the debate is over,” a network is more “covered” in making such an invitation. In addition, the debatability of the CAGW hypothesis is now “on the table,” given Trump’s actions.

Darrell Demick

That will never happen. A fellow “denier” who gave a presentation a while ago was asked if, given the opportunity, he would debate climate change with David Suzuki (Canadian).
His response was excellent: “I would love to, but I am 100% certain that Mr. Suzuki would never attend.”

Green Sand

What are they hoping to achieve? Prove a scientific hypothesis by ‘marching’ in Washington, DC? Well I suppose if the scientific method comes up with a blank, then what is left for a committed earner?

Alex

‘Look at me, look at me, I’m on TV’

ToddF

I saw no scientists at that website. I did see a website with “Political” Science written all over it, though.

commieBob

I’m not saying science, even pure science, has no value. When scientists produce a breakthrough, it can be world changing. Scientific research, especially research with commercial applications, is vitally important to maintaining economic growth.

Most people don’t get that. According to the Malthusians and the Club of Rome, we should have run out of a couple of strategic materials by now and society should have collapsed back to the stone age. Why didn’t it happen?
We haven’t run out of any strategic materials because we keep developing technology. If a material becomes too expensive, we find a way to use less, or we find more of that material, or we find a way to use a different material. That process relies on the development of science and technology. We have a tiger by the tail because, if that process stops, we are in big trouble. link
By subverting science, the warmists are actually putting our survival at risk. They have a lot to answer for.

AndyG55

Love those saw-tooth graphs, they absolutely DESTROY the CO2 warming anti-science.
They show that at its maximum, CO2 CANNOT maintain maximum temperature.
In fact, at CO2 maximums, the temperature actually declines.
End of Game..
End of FARCE !!

Graemethecat

..and not forgetting the 800-year lag between rising global temperatures and higher atmospheric CO2 concentration. Higher temperatures cause increased atmospheric CO2, not the other way round. How do proponents of CAGW explain that away?

Patrick MJD

“Graemethecat January 26, 2017 at 2:18 am
How do proponents of CAGW explain that away?”
By sticking their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes and minds and chanting “blah blah blah but the models say…blah blah blah”! Settled science!

Darrell Demick

Proponents of CAGW are the followers of a cult religion.
Think heaven’s Gate.
Think the late David Coresh at Ranch Apocalypse.
This cult religion is finally being exposed for what it truly is. Praise the Lord!!!

MarkW

They explain it away by declaring that while something else may have started the warming and that caused CO2 to be released from the oceans, at that point the unknown something faded away and CO2 took over.
How do they know this? Because the models have proven that CO2 control temperature.

Darrell Demick

A “greenhouse gas”, it is not!
CO2 is plant food – take six CO2, add six water, add sunlight and presto, you have sugar and six O2. That is the scientific truth surrounding CO!

Darrell Demick

Arrrrgh!!! Last one should be CO2. Sorry about my bad typing skills ….

POQ

Let’s be blunt. Some folk are just stupid. Some of them are “scientists” who never learned what science is about and never read Aldous Huxley.
On to the wankathon.

Darrell Demick

Yup POQ, and I can fix a lot of things, but I cannot fix stupid.
Hopefully the march turns into a “lemming relate” affair ……

ironargonaut

Ouch, but true.

Patrick MJD

Notice how the word debate is in ” “? Meaning there was no debate and no debate was ever desired. The politics is in. The politics are clear.

knr

Can you blame them , AGW has been the means by which third rate ‘scientists’ have gained first rate lifestyles, with many of them otherwise basically unemployable . And who would want to see their area of science filled with people with such poor academic practice and such massive over inflated ego’s if for no other reason that they have enough of the latter already .
All in or get out , that is there options.

George Lawson

” Caroline Weinberg, a medical researcher who is helping organize the march,”
No one told me that the President was curtailing medical research!

Martin Mason

Just for info it was Napoleon XIV that was coming to take him away. 🙂

willhaas

The 97% is meaningless because science is not a democracy but is is also not factual since scientists never registered and voted on the AGW conjecture. Despite the hype there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate. Yes, Mankind has caused an increase in the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere but has no effect on climate. There is plenty of scientific reasoning to support the idea that the climate sensivity of CO2 is really zero. The AGW conjecture depends upon the existance of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by the LWIR absorption properties of so called greenhouse gases. The reality is that such a radiant greenhouse effect does not exist in a greenhouse, anywhere on Earth, on Venus, or anywhere in the solar system. Because a radiant greenhouse effect does not exist the AGW conjecture is science fiction. The blackboard represents a collection of misconceptions.

hunter

Most of the people marching will be pretend scientists. President Trump should dismiss them by ignoring them. Hit first. Hit hard. Hit often.

Darrell Demick

Based on the quintillion bytes of video data that will be available post-march, employ the best facial recognition software and order a great big batch of pink slips ……

Darrell Demick

Of course the database size referenced in the previous post is a SWAG. Better scientific input than these supposed climate “scientists”, mind you.

High Treason

The crooked climate scientists who pump out junk science for $$$ will do anything to avoid the truth being revealed. Look forward to more desperation measures to maintain the lie. Look forward to more and more rallies to try to overturn Trump and his march to expose the lies.

Notice the white lab jackets – that shows THESE GUYS ARE REAL SCIENTISTS.

Resourceguy

If there are activist volunteers or actors, then they need extra extra long sleeves.

CheshireRed

These are the same guys who’ve spent at least a decade closing down free speech on the very subject they want to march about in order to retain free speech. Let them; the debate suddenly becomes live again and then, well, we all know the outcome when well-informed sceptics go up against alarmists. We win every single time. So yeah, bring it on.

. The proposed protest march being planned for Washington could well take place in some really nastly cold weather. With luck it could tirn into something like Napoleon’s retreat from Moscow,. Hopefully they will be dressed in Lab Coats and silly Pink Caps. A good cull of these ‘Scientists’ could well be the shot in the arm that real Science needs..

Dave Fair

When I was in the U.S. Army, we called our equivalent of the Pink Caps C-Caps. Just sayin’.

tony mcleod

If sanitary workers go on strike the effect is immediate and brutal, but climate scientists could walk off the job for a decade, and the only consequence to ordinary people would be a slightly smaller tax bill.
But opinionated bloggers, we definitely could do with a few more of them.

gnomish

and paid commenters. they are the baptist/bootlegger combo of the 21st century!
and of course, the CEO of Click a Claque is rakin it in.
click bait catches fish!

MarkW

If you don’t like it, you are free to leave.

ClimateOtter

Mark, except for his last sentence, tony was almost on target. I think the tax bill will be even smaller than he thinks.

Thomho

I noticed top of their chart said “The Debate is over”
Really they need to careful of slogans like that
The incoming CEO of Australia’s CSIRO
our premier Aust Govt owned and funded
Research Institute picked up on our scientists claim that the “Science is Settled”
Right he said in that case you wont be
needing to do any more climate research
thus freeing up positions and funds for
other more useful research
You possibly heard the screaming from America by our outraged climate scientists who had not quite been expecting to be taken literally
when they claimed “the science is settled”

Graham

“If sanitary workers go on strike…”
They are. They’re not fit to be called scientists when you consider what they peddle.