Ah Dr. Michael Mann, keeps giving us gifts. As Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. once quipped:
If Michael Mann did not exist, the skeptics would have to invent him.
Looks like doomsday from Dr. Mann’s perspective, according to his Twitter feed (from which I’m blocked h/t to Shub). Maybe Mike is just worried POTUS has more Twitter followers than he does…
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For you perhaps micky
Oh, the horror
It only takes one person to steer the ship of state in a better direction to show millions why looking at their navels can only destroy their country.
I’m sure he would agree with this. Any thoughts??
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/sea-level-rise-global-warming-climate-change-9-metres-study-science-a7536136.html
I have a thought on that:
“Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.” -Noel Brown, ex UNEP Director, 1988
And another thought:
“European cities will be plunged beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a Siberian climate by 2020.” -Paul Harris, 2004, UK Ecojournalist
It is true the Eemian highstand was 6-7 meters higher than present sea level with temps 1-2C greater than present (proxies vary). What the article did not say is that it took ~3000 years to reach. That is ~2.2mm/yr, which is the present SLR at ~40 long record PSMSL tide gauges with diff GPS vertical land motion correction within 10 km. Has been since 1900. And the world is coping nicely with that rate. Only places like Bangkok with substantial subsidence have potential problems. The Bangkok lesson is dont build on unconsolidated estuary sediments and then pump out the ground water. You sink if you do.
A scary prediction that might or might not be true three millennia from now presented as if for 2100. Nice going, PIK. Par for the warmunist course.
ristvan: “The Bangkok lesson is don’t build on unconsolidated estuary sediments and then pump out the ground water.”
Try telling that to the Houston area of Texas. According to the U.S. Geological Survey parts of Harris County have dropped 10 and 12 feet since the 1920s. Two millimeters per year is nothing. Even with (attempted) controls on ground water pumping some areas around Houston are still dropping around 5cm. per year.
It’s even worse for New Orleans. Full article at http://pesn.com/2005/09/23/9600175_Rebuild_Energy_Systems_Not_NewOrleans/ Here’s the summary
sadly, STUPID is a renewable resource…
we may never reach ‘peak stupid’
the stone age didn’t end cuz we ran out of stupid…
well- when life hands you a pile of butthurt lemons…
squash em, squeeze em, wring the juice out of em and toss the husks
Compost man, compost. Husks are great for your garden which grows better at 400 ppm than at 300 🙂
Technological progress is the process of making things easier for less and less able thinkers. Consider the evolution of projectile weapons. The first weapons of that sort were thrown stones. There is now evidence that one of the distinct ways that humans differ from great apes (if you don’t go for evolution don’t bother reading) is that we are world class in the art of distance and accuracy throwing. The projectile weapon then acquires a shaft and a sharpened tip placing more mass behind a small point creating a weapon capable of penetration from a distance, but both stone and spear throwing require practice, lots of it. Along the way we have distance and power enhancements like the sling and spear thrower (atl-atl), and “magazine” enhancements in the development of smaller darts and the bow and arrow. Skill demands are reduced with the bow some, and then dramatically so with introduction of fire arms. Accuracy is still an individual matter. By the late 18th century the British are perfecting the mass musketry barrage demanding no marksmanship, the hand grenade is in use – essentially rock throwing with lower skill demands, and canon fire includes nasty loads of case shot. As the 19th and 20th centuries pass the demand for skill is largely eliminated and any idiot with access can now destroy continents. But behind the idiot are skilled technicians who have created devices that have freed them from constant attendance on idiots, or as Mencken wrote “…downright moron[s].”
Interesting but I’m not sure that a longbow (at least) requires less skill than a spear. Bow practice was regular and mandatory and highly effective as the French discovered at Agincourt.
http://www.longbow-archers.com/historyagincourt.html
Civilization is not a Darwinian survival trait.
Technological progress is the process of making things more productive for less and less inputs.
The reduced input may be technical skill or intellectual ability. Or it may be some other input reduced (like raw materials).
Finally, in critical applications – like warfare – the input may even be increased if the output is increased more. That is the case with thee English Longbow (actually Welsh). It required great application to gain the strength to fire the thing and a lot of practise practise to get the range right. But it was so effective at killing that it ended the dominance of heavy cavalry on the medieval battlefield.
(For further study look at the sub-sonic VTOL Harrier in the Falklands War. It was called the Widowmaker because it was so hard to fly. It was deemed obsolete on arrival as it was sub-sonic. But it changed the aerial battlefield from just ‘faster’ to ‘fast and manoeuvrable’)
Stupidity is a form entropy. It just keeps growing naturally. Any pockets of sanity and intelligence are just local, temporary perturbations.
+1
That was the gist of Stephen Pinker’s reply to this year’s Edge question.
Snips:
” An underappreciation of the inherent tendency toward disorder, and a failure to appreciate the precious niches of order we carve out, are a major source of human folly.”
“Poverty, too, needs no explanation. In a world governed by entropy and evolution, it is the default state of humankind. Matter does not just arrange itself into shelter or clothing, and living things do everything they can not to become our food. What needs to be explained is wealth. Yet most discussions of poverty consist of arguments about whom to blame for it.”
“the stone age didn’t end cuz we ran out of stupid…”
The more you look at the Pyramids, the more you realize the guys that built them weren’t stupid. They were superb engineers.
Absolutely true!
Not to mention the fact that all of the geniuses are still scratching their academic dome’s over how they moved the stones.
Professor Mann probably read the speech: “an education system, flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge”. The HORROR, indeed.
Hey Mikey, you will get another grant. Just this time, uh, use more than one tree, and involve someone who understands statistics
Expect a sudden sharp rise in global sea level due to the simultaneous meltdown of vast numbers of special snowflakes.
@ur momisugly act, ++++ many more!!! 🙂
Argh @ur momisugly cat
🙂
State Penn is waiting mikey!
Climate change you can believe in, mikey!
Yes We Can.. 🙂
Yes we did!
The horror has been real for a long time Mr Man – have a look in the mirror.
The scam is up!
The horror for Mann and his ilk has certainly come to pass. The gravy train has just made it’s last stop.
Time to get a real job Mikey. If you can’t avoid lying, I believe ABC or CNN should employ you with open arms.
Perhaps the Circus ?
We’ll remember this is as the day the oceans began to rise…
Good one!
Perhaps also as the day mankind lost control of climate.
More exactly, the day the Progressives lost control of the climate.
One pointed question, Pops–just HOW has mankind been controlling the climate?
If they’ve been doing it and forcing temps upwards on purpose to support their scam, wouldn’t that be a criminal conspiracy of infinite magnitude?
I think you have some serious ‘splaning to do!
I will remember it as the day the tide came in and washed the sand castles and Bull Sh*t away!
Heh. I hadn’t realized that Michael “Robust Debate” Mann had blocked me until I saw this post and checked his Twitter.
He’s probably got a massive database of people he blocked in advance.. Just in case ya know.
Edward Teach was much more formidable. 🙂
@richard Baguley: Did it ever occur to you that blocking people on your Twitter acct is a sign of cowardice? It is the equivalent of turning and running from your enemy in battle because you don’t have the courage (or the weapons) to fight them.
Mann is displaying his cowardice because, deep down, he probably knows that those he has blocked have better science to fight with than he does. Simple common sense–Isn’t hard to figure out.
Oddly enough, I am also blocked by Dr. Mann? And I’ve never once even looked at his twitter feed before reading this post!
He is being consistent. He removes everything he doesn´t like.
He will end up with only one twitter follower called YAD06.
I wonder if Mann has been trolling this site and blocking everyone who posts here. He certainly has a list of all the people who he blacklisted at Realclimate.com. I remember that it took me fewer than 5 questions on Realclimate to be effectively blocked by Mann and Schmidt.
Mann must have quite a database of blockees by now.
Hey, Griff is back with yet a new name!
In other words, Warmists do not like when I challenge them to voluntarily live the life they want to force everyone else to live.
When the spigot is turned off the scam will die.
+0.97
Yes, like a tree whose roots are depending upon the septic system of a recently vacated house.
I have to say… GREAT COMMENT !!!
“Yes, like a tree whose roots are depending upon the septic system”
Certainly, the AGW scam is dependant on the sewage system.
The only thing keeping it alive.
Yes, today the White House web site took down climate change verbiage and put up the President’s energy plan.
Very good sign of improvements to come.
When the spigot is turned off the swamp will drain naturally!
I wonder which is better (or worse): to be TwitterBlocked by Mann and know it or to never have known it?
Definitely one to ponder. I’ve been blocked from an Australian cleric’s FB. Great feeling to have got right up the nose of a posturing SJWanker!
Seems a busy climate scientist would have better things to do with his time….
..like threatening or attacking someone, burning cars, rioting, destroying private property
and not one democrat has condemned any of it
That’s because they are a part of it.
What a pandering dork.
How long will it be before we get to know the revised and unadjusted temperature records, since Climate Science Dinosaurs stopped ruling the Earth?
Great point! That would be a worthy project: to “unadjust” the temperature record.
The original weather station data still exists at most weather stations. It’s the collected data maintained by government agencies which has been corrupted by multiple “adjustments”. With new leadership in the Executive Branch the task of replacing the massively adjusted data with original data can begin. Personally, I would rather not see any adjustments in the collected data, even for UHI, but I certainly would like to see the data classified into categories including true rural and urban as well as the compliant and none compliant sites that Anthony identified.
Steyn is eventually coming with his concurrent countersuit. Mickey, you know you will lose that. Be afraid. Very Afraid.
On the one hand, I have often seen lawyers be wrong about the eventual outcome of cases. On the other hand, Steyn has friends:
That’s an astounding number of amici briefs. There is clearly a lot at stake. If Mann wins, it sets a precedent that makes the First Amendment meaningless. I think he will have a very hard time winning.
Whatever the outcome of the trial, Mann will ultimately lose, which is why he has vehemently opposed discovery requests from Steyn, just as he vehemently dodged FOIA requests in VA and PA.
Win or lose, the truth will come out. Mann is a cockroach and eventually the light switch will be flipped on.
Backed by undisclosed Green money, Mann tried to bully Steyn. His plan backfired and blew up in his face. Mann will be crucified. He knows this.
Steyn hasn’t hidden behind the truth and Mann couldn’t recognize the truth if it smacked him between the eyes like a 2 x 4.
You may laugh at ristvan if you must but I can guarantee nobody is following your lead.
Hi Grif! I wonder how much longer paid trolling will be a good livligood?
No, just knowledge of the law, Steyn’s book A Disgrace to the Profession, and McIntyre’s deconstruction of Mann’s hockey stick and Mike’s Nature trick to hide the decline.
There is this recent decision against Steyn. The disturbing thing is that the court has hung its hat on Penn State’s very flawed investigation that supposedly exonerates Mann.
” LMAO @ur momisugly ristvan, you must be using some kind of climate model to predict the outcome of a lawsuit. Thanks for the laugh.”
LMAO @ur momisugly Richard Baguley, how ambiguous of you?
I’m getting climate models can’t predict the future…….Thanks for the laugh! lol
I suggest a job out in fresh air for Mike – How about a greens keeper at the local golf course = $12 /hr!!!
Or caddy, then his wages can include ‘tipping’ points!
Wow, calling the duly elected 45th President of the USA a “horror”…. That takes some chutzpah….
Friendly reminder for Dr. Mann, having no commercially viable skills the only “boss” you have ever had is the US gubermint. When the leader of the gubermint changes you could attempt (however disingenuously) to curry his/her favor, or you could insult him on Day One…..
I guess Dr. Mann went with the “Insult the Boss” option right out of the gate…….
That usually ends poorly, but it will sure be entertaining to see how this goes….. “You’re Fired” does have a nice melodious tone to it…..
Of course Dr. Mann is a Nobel prize winner (ha ha ha) and is a whole lot smarter than us “common” folks that have simply tried to do something useful that others will gladly pay for.
Perhaps Dr. Mann should have run for President based on a “I’ll save the Planet” platform……
Wonder how that would have gone against a simpler “I’ll save your JOBS” platform….
Cheers, KevinK
The only sure thing he has at this moment is the mouthpiece of the media.
The horror of Mike’s funding being cut.
by blocked you mean you can’t post? Cause if you can’t see it you can just log out and look at it. Not that I’d want to do that on a regular basis mind you..
The real “horror” is Mann’s dishonest deception and deceit in falsely fabricating alleged scientific support for man made global warming which been shown to be completely exaggerated and bogus.
The protection and funding which scumbags like Mann received from Obama’s idiotic government climate fear campaign is now gone.
Have a great day Mann!
He’s crushing Twitter with those 34 likes.
“He’s crushing Twitter with those 34 likes”
that must be the 97% of “climate scientists™”
No its only 34 of the 65 climate scientists making up the 97% (65 out of 67 = 97%). So just over half of the 97%. 🙂
SteveT