Eric Holthaus: Too upset to work because of President-elect Trump

Guest post by David Middleton


Meteorologist opens up about the struggle with fighting climate change

Eric Holthaus revealed his emotional and psychological battle with trying to save the planet.


I’m starting my 11th year working on climate change, including the last 4 in daily journalism. Today I went to see a counselor about it.


I’m saying this b/c I know many ppl feel deep despair about climate, especially post-election. I struggle every day. You are not alone.


There are days where I literally can’t work. I’ll read a story & shut down for rest of the day. Not much helps besides exercise & time



As nearly as I can tell, this meteorologist’s “job” is to blog alarmist propaganda… This and the election of Donald Trump have apparently put him into therapy and is making it difficult fro him to go to “work.”

At least he doesn’t “work” for the EPA or DOE…


Tears, angst as workforce braces for Trump takeover

Robin Bravender and Kevin Bogardus, E&E News reporters

Greenwire: Friday, November 11, 2016

U.S. EPA employees were in tears. Worried Energy Department staffers were offered counseling. Some federal employees were so depressed, they took time off. Others might retire early.

And some employees are in downright panic mode in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s victory.

“People are upset. Some people took the day off because they were depressed,” said John O’Grady, president of American Federation of Government Employees Council 238, a union that represents thousands of EPA employees. After Election Day, “people were crying,” added O’Grady, who works in EPA’s Region 5 office in Chicago. “They were recommending that people take sick leave and go home.”


E&E News

Having gone through four M&A’s since 2001, I can attest that anyone who felt the need to “take sick leave and go home” because they were upset about the new management, would probably find that “leave” to be permanent.

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256 thoughts on “Eric Holthaus: Too upset to work because of President-elect Trump

  1. Like most of the “climate change” community who obsess over climate via the fashionable religion of ‘earth-worship’, one constant remains: *misanthropy* or the hatred of humanity.
    So, in fairness to Eric, I have no doubt he harbours extreme feelings of guilt and shame every time he tweets catastrophe, with his iPhone, upon his elite throne of moral virtue.
    Thankfully for him, he is not alone in his hatred of all mankind, care of a Club that I’m sure he’s a proud subscriber of… The Club Of Rome…
    “The Earth has cancer
    and the cancer is Man.”
    – Club of Rome (premier environmental think-tank, consultants to the United Nations)

    • When did this idea the “planet” needs “saving” ever come from to begin with? It sounds like something out of the mouth of an acid-soaked hippie ca. 1970. Today it’s become cliche’.

      • “Global warming” aka “climate change” is the virtue-signalling religion of our time.
        With the decline of religion, some people need a moral signal to show that they’re good.
        “Global warming” is particularly good because they don’t actually have to do anything. They don’t have to cure leppers, or feed the hungry. All they have to do is yell that the planet is warming up.
        Until they find another way of signalling virtue, we’re stuck with this one!

        • Radical environmentalists started it and One World Government types seeing a possible anarchist army of foot soldiers support them.

      • Yes, the 70ties.
        But everyone is enforced going back to the postmodern future, where facts are faked and ocean that acidificated you can decontaminate your emptied Plzn beer cans in.

    • This fanatical reaction to a United States Presidential election is odd. Odd like the Church of Scientology. Former Scientologist Leah Remini is taking down Scientology on a TV series and showing how corrupt and manipulated the believers of the cult are and how hard it is for them to get out. I can see a TV series appearing in the next few years on the CO2 centrist cult. A possible insider scientist will show how corrupt the leaders of this cult are and how they manipulate and force fellow scientist to tow the CO2 centrist cult line or have their career’s ruined. CO2 went from 0.03% the perfect amount to 0.04% of the atmosphere and the entire World collapsed. lol

    • A lot of these “snowflakes” are pretty unbalanced and border-line obsessive-compulsive. It’s the only thing that explains their blind devotion and complete indifference to facts or consequences.

    • @ Climatism: >>“The Earth has cancer
      and the cancer is Man.”<<
      So why does he himself not the favor to remove himself from the community of mankind?

  2. Trump has made it difficult for him to work ?
    I’m reminded of Dr.Johnson’s response when assured that a violin performance was very difficult.
    “Difficult do you call it, Sir? I wish it were impossible.”

  3. Not much helps besides exercise & time….
    He’s just saying he doesn’t want to do his job…and would rather play

  4. Talk about your snowflakes! Do Meteorologists have to take Thermo or physics? Do they know CAGW is not physically possible?

    • They generally take quite a bit of physics and chemistry… And neither physics, nor thermodynamics *preclude* CAGW. The observations simply demonstrate that the conditions required for CAGW won’t occur under any realistic scenario of fossil fuel combustion.
      Interestingly, the Rolling Stone article about Holthaus includes this:

      Amazingly, according to one study, nearly half of all US meteorologists don’t believe that humans are the cause of climate change. Holthaus has met this contingent at conferences. “The crowd is like 1980s military uniform-type people,” he says. “They’re prominently conservative Republicans in positions of power, and they want to push the message they believe, politically.”

      • “The crowd is like 1980s military uniform-type people,” he says. “They’re prominently conservative Republicans in positions of power, and they want to push the message they believe, politically.”
        Project much?

      • The CAGW model requires that the upper tropical troposphere heats up faster than Earth’s surface, forming a “hotspot”) and then heats the surface. The upper tropical troposphere is -17 deg C and the surface is 15 deg C. Thermodynamics clearly indicates that cold cannot warm hot. Period.
        Furthermore, thousands of measurements of the upper tropical troposphere have failed to find this required hotspot and satellite measurements show that it has been gently cooling up there for well over 35 years. This observation alone is fatal to the whole “greenhouse effect” of CAGW—nothing more is needed to kill this junk science. This failure of their “science” is why climate alarmists refuse to debate the science; they know their science is bogus. In fact, it can be said that they do not have a single piece of defensible science to back up their claim that CO2 can lead to a warming planet.The two hockeystick graphs of CO2 and temperature versus time are fraudulent and the computer global climate models are fatally flawed in multiple ways (lacking over 50 major climate factors) and have failed in all predictions of climate; computer models are not science anyhow as computers do what they are programmed to do.
        A limited range of IR radiation might be absorbed by CO2 and water vapor in the upper troposphere, the rest is lost to space. The IR is then re-radiated in all directions, half up and half down more or less. The upward half is lost to space. The downward IR hit s hotter surface whose equivalent energy levels are already full and thus reflected immediately back upward. There is no heating of the surface.
        Spurious absorption of IR in the lower troposphere during daylight is a wash as CO2 and water vapor are saturated with IR and also both absorbing and emitting IR. It is at night, a condition NOT included in the computer global climate models, that water vapor and CO2, with no energy coming in, actively convert heat energy in the air to IR which is then lost to space, the surface still being warmer than the air. This is why the air chills so rapidly after sunset and why little breezes kick up so quickly in the shadows of clouds on a sunny day with scudding clouds.
        If anything, CO2 and water vapor serve to cool the planet at night and have no net effect during daylight.

      • MarkW, the irony is really really strong with this one.
        Democrats want to set up the question like “do you believe in global warming?” (consensus-I), which, for them, implies “do you believe in man-made catastrophic climage change?” (implied-consensus-II).
        Republicans on the other hand, put the question the other way around: “can you prove the money spent on the mitigation you suggest does any good”. You can call that denial, or just sensible. It depends on how much you believe in the implied-consensus-II. If you believe in the consensus-II, the proving part may be skipped to some extent.
        Democrats appear to miss the logic on how to use money. You don’t fix things by adding money. You fix things by using your money wisely. Wise spending means you think what else you can get with your money. Typical left wing thinking does not include the ‘what else’ part, because money grows in a tree and energy comes from a wall socket. sarc.

      • Every body radiates infra-red energy. The hotter the body, the more it radiates. If a cold body warms up, it will radiate more.
        Therefore if a body is radiating more, it will warm all the bodies around it. The relative temperature of the two bodies doesn’t matter a lick.
        If a cold body warms, it will warm the bodies around it, even if the other bodies are all warmer that it, to begin with.

      • Hugs, liberals tend to view government spending as a good thing, in and of itself. It doesn’t matter that much what it is spent on.

      • Thermodynamics clearly indicates that cold cannot warm hot

        My coat (colder than me) warms me (hot). I’m sure that must be against thermodynamics as well.
        Yeah, don’t get me started on the different meanings of ‘to warm’.

      • “Therefore if a body is radiating more, it will warm all the bodies around it. The relative temperature of the two bodies doesn’t matter a lick.”
        Mark, you obviously have never taken a course in physics or thermodynamics. The Second Law of Thermodynamics states:
        “Heat can never pass from a colder to a warmer body without some other change, connected therewith, occurring at the same time”
        Stand next to a huge block of ice, or go inside a snow cave. The ice is emitting infrared, but I guarantee it will not warm you up one bit.

      • Stand next to a huge block of ice, or go inside a snow cave. The ice is emitting infrared, but I guarantee it will not warm you up one bit.

        It does warm you, but not enough. You warm the ice more than the ice warms you. You loose energy.

    • Hugs: Re: Your coat warms you. Ummm. No. It retains your body heat. Insulation, right? Geez.

      • I’m pretty sure that was his point, Tex. Insulation doesn’t violate the laws of thermodynamics because it isn’t about a cold thing providing more energy to a warm thing, it’s about a cold thing slowing down the loss of energy FROM the warm thing. We just refer to both processes as ‘warming’.

      • Mind if I re-phrase that, just a little more technically?
        All objects radiate, the amount that they radiate is determined by their temperature.
        Unless an object is completely surrounded by a region that is at absolute zero, it will also be receiving radiation from it’s environment.
        An object that is receiving more radiation than it radiates, will warm up. If it is receiving less, it cools down.
        That object will continue to warm up or cool down, until it’s own radiation comes back into balance with what it is receiving.
        Thus, if part of it’s environment warms up, the object will start to receive more radiation. Thus the object must warm until it’s radiation is back in equilibrium.

    • Yes, on occasion very cold things can add a little warmth to their immediate environment. Meet my wife.
      Of course the energy input that is necessary to create the change of state, which then in turn results in the excess radiated warmth, cannot be predicted in consistent manner. Seems that there are way too many inter-related variables and stand alone variables that may or may not even have anything to do with the with the energy inputs.

  5. I watched an interview with Christopher Monckton on You Tube….I have never seen him so happy and radiant. So just as we are delighted, the other side is in misery. What joy!

    • Isn’t it somewhat contradictory to be Tweeting about things like this if you want to be left alone???

      • What he means is that he doesn’t want to hear from anyone who disagrees with him.
        Tweets from the echo chamber are OK.

  6. These people who took time off because they were sad. That would be time off without pay? Oh wait! I forgot. They’re Federal employees. Silly me!

    • We just received a memo, that Federal employees in the DC area will receive Inauguration Day off! (Supposedly because of the massive traffic jam that will ensue.) However, the rest of us poor sods who DON’T work in DC still have to go to work. Personally, I’m just waiting to see when they change to official photo portrait of POTUS that hangs in our lobby. Wonder if anyone will attempt to remove it when no one’s around?

  7. Tell him to move to Alberta, Canada!!! We have had colder than average temperatures since the start of 2017, exactly in line with our new “Carbon Tax”. Apparently the “Carbon Tax” is working ……….

    • I don’t understand how giving the government an extra $300/month will help slow down global warming… I think it is actually to pay for all the government workers salary raises…

    • Darrell,
      The carbon tax is working because when people move out of the province there are fewer folks that breath out that toxic, all powerful trace gas, thus less CO2. Ergo, it gets colder. Heck, it is only – 19.7 C here right now.

    • Actually, I often dream of such elitist snowflakes being subjected to working a McD’s double drive-thru for lunch. A team of therapists, shrinks and life coaches would be insufficient…

  8. ‘Some people took the day off because they were depressed’
    And because they could.
    Where I worked, no one dared leave when the bosses said, “Non-essentials can go home.”

  9. Eric Holthaus is a veritable Climate Crusader and is likely afflicted with PTSD – Pre Trump Stress Disorder. Wait until he gets POST Trump Stress Disorder. What will happen to the poor dear then?
    Of course some of the people who work for the EPA will undoubtedly get PJSD after Trump becomes President – Post Job Stress Disorder. Maybe they will go on to lead productive lives.

    • And thousands will undoubtedly get PTDR after Trump becomes President – Post Trump Disability Retirement ……. @ 85% of working salary, plus yearly COLAs

  10. The problem with some of the comments here is the implication that the co2 hate obsession that leftists / enviro wackos have is contrary to earth worship.
    As most of you know there could be nothing better for the health of all living things than more co2. Cow literally is what plants are made of and the result of plants consuming more co2 is more oxygen and food for animals. Co2 does absorb a little heat and it may keep the planet from going into another ice age and may promote more life.
    We might lose some coastline but maybe not. Even with the constant rising seas during the entire interglacial period that has seen the rise of man and civilization we have survived this and incredibly coastal km has increased in the last 30 years due partly to the fact man can build coastline. At 5″ a century man can cope with it. It’s not the hell we would be told.
    There is strong evidence storms decrease with higher temps. Decreasing difference between polar regions and the tropics regions reduce the energy flow that is the source for most large movements of energy. It shouldn’t have been that surprising that rising temperatures especially at the poles would decrease storms. There is more rain lifting the land as acqifers fill and reducing desserts and glaciers recede slowly as they have been for 15000 years.

  11. I’m sad too.
    I’m sad that despite clear warnings for several decades by the most credible scientists that global warming alarmism was not proven (eg Richard Lindzen) and was in fact false, that trillions of dollars of scarce global resources were squandered on this false alarm – funds that should have been allocated to solving real global problems.
    I’m sad that in the ~three decades that false global warming alarmism has been rampant, about 60 million kids below the age of five have died from contaminated drinking water. That is more people than died on all sides in WW2.
    A fraction of the funds wasted on warmist nonsense would have put clean water and sanitary systems into every village on the planet.
    So I’m sad too, because of the lost opportunities to do real good instead of real harm.
    As for the warmist scammers, I hope they ultimately realize the great harm they have done to humanity, and that they reflect, for the rest of their lives, on their corruption and their folly.
    Regards, Allan
    We published this in 2002:
    “Kyoto wastes enormous resources that are urgently needed to solve real environmental and social problems that exist today. For example, the money spent on Kyoto in one year would provide clean drinking water and sanitation for all the people of the developing world in perpetuity.”

    • Agreed 100%. And proof positive that the Climate Fascists are at their core anti-human, except for themselves, of course.

    • A fraction of the funds wasted on warmist nonsense would have put clean water and sanitary systems into every village on the planet.

      The real problem has always been not finding the money, but to get it past corrupt administrations to where it is actually needed.

      • Michael Palmer – money is also needed.
        Donate if you can to CAWST.
        13.1 million people helped with clean water and sanitation in the past 15 years..
        CAWST | Centre for Affordable Water and Sanitation Technology
        The Centre for Affordable Water and Sanitation Technology (CAWST) teaches people how to get safe drinking water, sanitation and hygiene in their own homes.
        “The statistics are chilling: over 1.8 billion people are drinking fecally contaminated water, while 2.4 billion people lack access to basic sanitation.”
        Regards, Allan

      • A former church used to take up a Christmas offering every year to fund the drilling of wells in India. In the 10 years that I was there, we funded a bit over 100 wells.

  12. The river of salty tears of all those climate alarmists will end up disturbing the ocean streams or something.

  13. He displays both passive aggression and virtue signaling. Perhaps he has mommy and/or daddy issues. Quitting his “job” would appear to be an excellent solution to his predicament. His cohorts should also be shown the door.

    • If passive-aggressive behavior merits removal from the job, we can expect a huge number of job openings in the very near future.

  14. Maybe Eric has just realized that for the last 11 years, he’s been on the wrong side of the issue–that would make anybody depressed.
    It sort of reminds me of the politically-correct California mindset through this past drought: They must have thought it would last forever because instead of upgrading and expanding their water system state-wide, they did nothing even though their population has grown. All this recent abundant precipitation has had nowhere to go but to the ocean.
    For people who are always telling us they’re concerned with the future, their actions are on the level of epic fail.

  15. These people are just so pathetic. He’s just showing he is soooooo concerned about the situation it’s driving him nuts. The subtext being, if you aren’t feeling the same, you don’t care as much as he does

    • The confusion and depression arises because of living inside a bubble for so long. A new term, ‘a failure of Clintonesque proportions’ has entered the lexicon. CAGW is facing such a payday. It turns out that wishing something was true really, really, really hard doesn’t make it true.
      Virtue signalling that you wish it wasn’t true definitely worked for a while, inside the bubble with its shiny psychedelic colours shimmering around. But bubbles have a habit of popping. Out here in the real world where the air is clear, we have to work for a living.
      ‘S’cuse me, mate, you mind picking up one of those shovels?’

      • But with his 11 years of sucking up he’ll have a healthy pension at 35 years old and I am sure he’ll have another job soon.These people should not be in line for that kind of farewell gift.

  16. Is this the same goof that announced he would undergo forced sterilization to save the planet? He may have other un-diagnosed problems. He should be on a list not to be able to purchase firearms.

    • Well spotted, Cold old chap. He’s willing to undergo forced sterilisation is he? Well, at least he’s got that right.
      By the way, how forced is that? You hold him down, I’ll bring the bricks…..

    • Meanwhile, what do you want to bet he ends up with 4 or 5 kids, like so many other hypocrites talking about “depopulating” the Earth of (other, of course) humans.

    • Given his mental state he should start with himself. Lopping his marbles is not only ideologically correct but will trigger a drop in testosterone which should help with his passive aggressive mood swings…

      • Passive-aggressive is not due to testosterone, but rather the lack thereof. It’s a cowardly, whiney way of getting what you want. Words over actions, always the martyr. Testosterone, on the other hand, just says to apply force to the speaking part of the person causing you stress. Very, very straightforward.

  17. Priceless post DM, thank you for that. Fortunately, individual snowflakes fade away quickly so we will not have to endure his whiny voice for much longer. We know also, don’t we, without meeting this individual that when he speaks his voice goes up at the end of each sentence and it sounds as if he is asking a question. It is when snowflakes get together that the problems begin, clogging up the channels to logical thinking and scientific enquiry.
    What an absolutely waste of space this individual is. Almost an insult to actual snowflakes.

  18. Surely this guy and his buddies should be happy – at least now they can clearly see and show the real effects of Climate Change …. unfortunately (for them) the changes are mainly in the Political Climate.
    I think things are definitely going to heat up for a lot of these poor little souls – finally they will have their unprecedented (but local) warming too!

  19. Whenever this “saving the planet” nonsense comes up, I ask two simple questions:
    1) What do we have to do to save the planet?
    2) How do we know when it’s been saved?
    If they can’t answer these questions then “saving the planet” is just a cliche with no meaning.

  20. Which is worse, a faulty world view or depression over being challenged to abandon a faulty world view ?
    Short-term depression is often necessary for building the strength to move through and conquer life’s hardships. You get a divorce, you get over it and move on. You get fired, you move on and try to find another job. Your house gets foreclosed on, you take steps to recover. Bankruptcy, death of a spouse or loved one, …….. There are so many crises in life that challenge us to get stronger.
    My advice to all those feeling depressed over Trump’s election is to examine WHY you feel depressed, and make an assessment of whether the problem is with Trump or with YOU.
    Be honest now. [maybe asking too much]

  21. Poor guy’s work on climate change is in jeopardy. I hope the climate change can survive without him.

  22. I can see why Eric Holthaus is so upset……. because he was blindly following the climate alarmists. Therefore he abandoned his own ability to think things through and instead lived in a world of unreality. When living in a world of unreality crashes with reality, it can cause a psychotic break. That is what the election did for many people. It exposed their blind following. That is can be very upsetting. I blindly followed the Vietnam war advocates and have been sorry ever since. I know the feeling of reality crashing against unreality.
    The politically run, climate alarmist blind following has been weaseling its way onto my college students and they thought Eric’s world was real. They too started blindly following climate alarmists, and then they too got depressed when the newly elected Republicans said,
    “Hey wait, lets evaluate where we are spending environmental money and not throw it away, lets have a well thought out non political environmental policy.”
    Eric went to therapy and my college students skipped classes when Trump won because they were told by leftists he was going to pollute the earth, end all gay marriages and send all people from Mexico home. They felt unsafe. They were just as depressed as Eric. So they decided to do nothing, like Eric.
    Scientist, physicist and philosopher Buckminster Fuller in his book “The Critical Path” said the only way humanity will stay on this planet is if humans each think for themselves. He believes that to get caught up in emotional political movements will end humanity on the planet. Eric’s political reaction of depression and withdrawal from life demonstrates what happens when it is an emotional movement you are blindly following and not your own heart and mind.
    Thanks Eric for showing my students now while they are young enough to change, to get their own facts, not blindly follow a political movement. Your article will inadvertently help them make their own decisions, and not have to be a blind follower. This is how we save the planet, one human at a time.
    41 great comments everyone above

  23. I loved this from the article:

    He covers everything from super typhoons in Hong Kong to walking conditions in Atlanta, tying it all back to the warming planet – which is something many of his colleagues refuse to do.

    Umm … dude … there’s a REASON your colleagues don’ do ‘dat …

  24. This joker is hilarious. Here are some of his headlines:
    From mid-2016:
    … dang … late to the party much? Hollywood has been making lousy climate change movies and gushing over Leonardo’s climate antics for a long time.
    And from June:
    We can see how much good that did.
    Then there is plenty of obligatory “It’s worse than we thought!” nonsense, like this one:
    Finally, my all-time fave …
    Bummer, man … Trump is harshing his vibe …

    • I thought DiCaprio’s flick was almost as funny as Gore’s… I heard Gore is doing a prequel…
      An Inconvenient Truth: The Phantom Menace

  25. My question is: what will be societies loss if he stops working. Will it be a plus or a minus to society? Everything I read hear it will be a big plus if he stops working and giving out false science.
    So let’s all hope he stops working, it will be societies gain and we wish him well in his recovery from delusional science.

  26. In an age where highly scripted realty shows proudly exhibit pretentious melodrama, it’s little wonder these self-proclaimed planetary saviors jockey for most aggrieved status.
    A blowhard lacking imagination invites the contempt of reasonable minds; most notably with celebreties who fail to follow through on promises to leave the country.

    • BUT CANADA IF OFF LIMITS! We have enough self-righteous-save-the-planet “humans”‘ up here, unfortunately they work their way into politics and run the provinces and country!

  27. The funny thing is I went to the polls on Nov 8th expecting a Clinton victory and another 4 or 8 years of loony policy on multiple fronts, including “climate change”. But it never would have occurred to me to boo hoo on social media a seek counseling had Clinton won; just to dig in and continue to support the causes I believe in.
    After Trump’s victory I was warily cautious that we could avoid jumping over the cliff with the rest of the climate lemmings. After his cabinet announcement for EPA, DOE and Attorney General my confidence rose. I won’t say I’m ecstatic, because it is a very big swamp, but events so far are very encouraging.
    But if all the AGW climate warriors are as fragile as this guy I’ll pop the champaign corks tomorrow. We won’t have to get rid of them all because they’ll do it to themselves. Sounds like he should try dating Leena Dunham so they could tweet their shared despair and depression together.

    • No, he can’t go to Moscow!!! For the first time in 70 years, Democrats and the left (but I repeat myself) are in universal agreement that Russia is the Source of All Evil.
      (what, do they mean that Romney was right in 2012?)

  28. I’m starting my 11th year working on climate change, including the last 4 in daily journalism. Today I went to see a counselor about it.

    Admitting one has a problem is the greater part of recovery.

    • Dead right, Roy. This has to be the most glaring case of cognitive dissonance I have ever seen. It’s classic’

    • He didn’t mention what sort of counselor he visited. Perhaps he ought to have spoken with a Guidance Counselor, and sought a more productive career. Unfortunately the guidance counselor might only recommend he attend a seminary.

  29. David,
    Thanks for this article. I am having trouble expressing much sympathy for these folks knowing how badly they would treat us if Hillary won the election.

  30. Supporting climate change alarmism has a real appeal to those who want to elevate their sense of self importance. It makes you feel like you understand science better than others and gives you a Robinhood-like self image because you are advocating shutting down of the big bad oil companies and making them pay for the damage they are doing to “the planet” in the name of science. Labeling yourself as a climate change activists is a much more interesting answer to the question “What do you do?” than saying “I write comments on Twitter”.
    A climate change alarmist is living in feel good bubble so they shut down anything that might burst it, “The discussion is over! The science is settled! I don’t want to hear anything that might disturb this great feeling I have about myself”

    • +97. In many cases it’s also the groupthink behaviour of siding with whichever gang you think will do you the most damage if you don’t agree with them. So there’s an element of cowardice involved as well.

  31. Nothing is so dangerous as being too modern. One is apt to grow old-fashioned quite suddenly.
    —Oscar Wilde, “An Ideal Husband,” Act 2,

  32. Eric Holthaus is an activist as opposed to a Journalist, part of the problem, not part of the solution.
    There are logical standard steps to solving any problem: determine what is or is not the problem, prioritizing the problems, and determine solutions that work as opposed to throwing money away, and so on.
    Fake Climate Science/Fake Journalism/Activism: See climate ‘science’ and reporting of climate science: Objective is to push propaganda, lying is forced/mandatory as the data/analysis does not support CAGW or even AGW.
    Real science/real journalism: (asks and answers questions, acknowledges anomalies and paradoxes, looks at all the data, data is not manipulation, people are fired for lying, press helps keep the system honest)

    Davis and Taylor: “Does the current global warming signal reflect a natural cycle”
    …We found 342 natural warming events (NWEs) corresponding to this definition, distributed over the past 250,000 years …. …. The 342 NWEs contained in the Vostok ice core record are divided into low-rate warming events (LRWEs; < 0.74oC/century) and high rate warming events (HRWEs; ≥ 0.74oC /century) (Figure). … …. "Recent Antarctic Peninsula warming relative to Holocene climate and ice – shelf history" and authored by Robert Mulvaney and colleagues of the British Antarctic Survey ( Nature , 2012, doi:10.1038/nature11391),reports two recent natural warming cycles, one around 1500 AD and another around 400 AD, measured from isotope (deuterium) concentrations in ice cores bored adjacent to recent breaks in the ice shelf in northeast Antarctica. ….

    Greenland ice temperature, last 11,000 years determined from ice core analysis, Richard Alley’s paper. William: As this graph indicates the Greenland Ice data shows that have been 9 warming and cooling periods in the last 11,000 years.
    Trump said NAFTA was the worst deal ever negotiated by the US.
    True or false? If someone lies to you, have they told other lies?

    • I wouldn’t worry about Mexico. They buy from the U.S. as well as sell. It’s trading with the Chinese while they oppress their people, disturb the peace in the South China sea and conduct corporate espionage via government agents that I don’t get.

      • Mexico sends in drugs through tunnels and its people live here illegally. I do worry about Mexico. Maybe not the trade deficit, but overall, the situation seems to merit worry.

      • How many more illegals would be trying to come here, without the economic growth that came about because of NAFTA?

      • Come on man. Let’s have more than 10 minutes thought. Think out of the dang liberal box.
        First, business as usual is not working. The US cannot afford to lose better high paying jobs. As Trump noted in the election, the US has lost 70,000 manufacturing plants.
        BMW and Toyota are currently building plants in Mexica. Volkswagen and Mazda are there now. All of the car manufacturers will move to Mexica if action is not taken.
        Purchase lower labor goods which we now purchase from China, from Mexico such as garments, toys, and so on. China is the number one long term threat to US interests both business and military.
        Require that higher labor goods such as cars be built in the US.
        Europeans will only purchase higher labor goods such as cars that are made in Europe. The US has a skilled, reliable labor force.

      • No matter what we do, those jobs are lost.
        They are either lost to Mexico and other foreign producers, or they are lost to automation.
        PS: Automation is the major reason behind the drop in US manufacturing employment, not shipping jobs over seas.
        PPS: The only reason why such jobs were once good paying is because unions had the political power to force companies to pay more than the jobs were worth. And because the rest of the world took decades to recover from WWII.

    • All of companies that moved to to Mexico, would have gone to Asia had NAFTA not been passed.
      The fact that you focus only on Mexico is like Griff whining over and over about the Arctic but ignoring the rest of the world.

  33. Might Eric Holtaus learn to grow up by studying and applying the Spartan agog military training and understand why it was so successful?

    “The Sparta military system as contrary to the other Greek city-states was not based on the gymnastic and strength superiority, it was more based on the military endurance of soldiers through different physical training, in different conditions; they were trained to sustain hunger, cold, and any kind of dangerous situation. The Spartan military training was known for the high level of discipline and efficiency, the Spartan military education was known as the Agog.”

    What Made the Spartan army as successful as it was. Mimoza Budeci

    • “Santa Clause was not real.” !!!!!
      Don’t talk such rubbish, next you’ll be telling us the tooth fairy doesn’t exist.
      Well I have proof she does…shes collected all my teeth, glued them on a base & put them in a glass next to the bed

  34. Classic virtue-signalling, you see the similar thing when Dear Leader dies and all the women are out wailing in the streets. It’s really quite sad to see people act like this.

    • The women are all out wailing in the streets at the death of the Dear Leader because they don’t want to end up dead too.

  35. I’ve commented before on the epidemic of Climate Alarm neurosis induced by the “PAUSE” a few years ago and of course it was rationalized as fighting on the front saving the planet and their dire warnings being ignored. Egregiously, therapists treated the sufferer’s disorder as if the self diagnosis was correct. The classic psychological term d#nile which has to be faced by the patient in order to recover in such cases was instead enabled by the shrinks. These patients never returned to work (e.g the Edith Spot butterfly exp.) and, peculiarly, a disproportionate number of Ozzie warmer types. With Karlization of the Pause, I was expecting some of these to venture back into their world but trump’s election should forestall this and add the new wave of neurotics
    . Recalling weepy Bill of350. org I’m convinced the shrill ones at least have a background of mental instability without CAGW. Good thing they developed the “safe places” because the demand is going to be enormous!

  36. I’m not an expert in American campaign financing, but do the Republicans have to send out a tax receipt for everyone who seems to be contributing the 2020 Trump re-election campaign?

    • “Steve Fraser
      January 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm
      Not ever. Donations to candidates or parties are not tax-deductible.”
      Ah, perhaps I’m thinking of “equal time” for political ads and stuff.
      I was only wondering because so many Trump haters are doing a better job of getting him re-elected than the Republicans could dream of.

  37. Why it became admirable to be weak and whiny I simply cannot fathom. These people are all losers incapable of dealing with real life. That’s not admirable, it’s sad and pathetic.

    • It has a lot to do with the new crop of Hollywood “stars”.
      If you added them all up, they still couldn’t take on a John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart.

    • Well, “weak and whiny” can also be said of too many Republicans and conservatives (and libertarians) in general.
      My advice to them years ago was “stop complaining and explaining”. You simply can’t reach those who believe you are the Ultimate Evil. Stop trying.
      I think at least a few are listening now.

    • Caligula Jones: I put no political party affiliation nor gender on my comment. It was an equal opportunity comment.
      I hope some are listening now, but I am not optimistic the newly grown spines will last over time.

  38. For his own sake and for every else, Holthaus needs to be kept away from loaded guns…..and butcher knives and baseball bats and……

  39. Here one can see the emotionalism that global warming alarmism rests upon. Silly me, but I don’t remember men (or women) of science getting all emotional about their work. No Dr Spocks around the DOE, apparently. The gravy train may be coming to an end. No more spouting off preoposerous claims that never get challenged by your colleagues UNLESS they don’t demonize carbon dioxide sufficiently. You know your science is in bad troiuble when you have to rename “global warming”
    to meaningless “climate change” because no one can detect any warming.

  40. Let’s get this straight. This guy has been involved with “climate change” for 11 years and is oblivious to the fact that nothing much has changed in those 11 years, but now feels insecure because there is a new President who believes that nothing has changed in those 11 years.
    Yeah, I’d recommend more than a counselor : how about a nice white straightjacket? And a rubber room. And lots of Prozac.

  41. He is the guy who stopped flying in 2013. I hope he is vegetarian and lives in a passive house with no energy supply whatsoever from the outside. However, both web publication and print press, in fact all media has an enormous carbon footprint, so refraining from those would be a truly valiant deed.
    Unfortunately, going to a see a counselor or using any other branch of healthcare is also detrimental to the planet, so he’d better leave those services alone as well.
    He should go back to Ethiopia, that’s the perfect lifestyle for him. With no flight available he could cross the ocean using a pedalo perhaps.

  42. If someone could volunteer up Eric’s home address, I’ll be happy to send him some play dough and crayons. Apparently that’s the new form of therapy for those who are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

  43. Warm milk, a pacifier, and a ‘blankie’ in his safe place might help this child-in-a-man-body cope…..

  44. There is no bigger calling than saving the planet, which is why most rational folk leave it to a few crackpots unfortunately.

  45. Ah, these X-genners, so pampered. If he’d been through the 80s/90s in corporate work, he’d have learned the cry of the middle-manager: BOHICA!
    Let me tell you, no crayons, no Play-Doh. Just a lot of resumés printed in advance of the meeting with HR.
    (Don’t know what BOHICA is? Lucky you.)

    • Not just corporate and that still goes on today. I lived BOHICA in the US Army. Resume buffing is a constant need only where I work, it is about demonstrated performance. BS is easily seen. Metrics are actual profits. Reality rules.

  46. The kooky leftist response to the election has been nothing but spectacularly embarrassing In all areas.

  47. I’m old enough to remember nuclear winter…ok, that isn’t old. But I did see every generation had its own particular fear subject and mine’s was nuclear winter promulgated by Dr Sagan et al. .
    People need fear. Pain is the primary motivator . Since food and medicine have become easy, one either uses religion fear (eternal damnation in Hell for Catholics ) or they make up a new faith based system (manbearpig) .
    Science is a tool, not a religion. The only thing I fear is a government taking my money, land and property. But that is my Jeffersonian side, minus slave owning proclivities as being half Slavic, I know that pain.

    • I’m glad I grew up with good old fashioned 1960’s “the atomic bombs are about to drop, run to your shelters! except even if you survive everyone will be mutants and giant rats will hunt you down” fears. Ahh, the good old days.

  48. If I told my boss I couldn’t work because I was upset about the election (no matter which party won), I’d be out on my ass in the snow (of which we got 8+ inches this past weekend, in the “sunny south”).
    Suck it up, buttercup.

    • LOL – EXACTLY!!! Yay, we finished in seventh place and won a trophy! In my day, this therefore means that you LOST!!!
      Still remember playing catcher as a kid in baseball, coming home with bruises on my face and a bloody nose. My father asked me what happened, I said that I was blocking the plate and got run over. My father then asked ……
      “Well, was he safe or out?”

  49. I find it hard to be sympathetic. The evidence is there, he’s just not looking at it. It’s like people who get bent out of shape because their horoscope is all out of whack or the feng shui of their apartment is messed up.
    How do you help someone who imagines themself into a tizzy?

    • just what we need in an already too cold winter. Not ->
      just what we need in an already to cold winter. Not

  50. I will counsel Eric Holthaus, over the internet, for half of what his current brain-care specialist charges. If my advice doesn’t help his climate-change problems immediately then I will continuously double the price until it does.

    • michael, I’ll do it for a quarter! Gee at that rate ($ 200/ hr ) i would give him the advice he needs at least 2 years of therapy 6 hrs a day1 ( hey i would need the other 2 hrs in a honest work day to recover from laughing)

  51. “Some federal employees were so depressed, they took time off. Others might retire early.” We could only hope that they all would retire. Easy way to put an end to their involvement in promoting the hoax.

  52. Eric Holthaus should have committed himself 11 years ago! Maybe he couldn’t find a psychologist back then who would top laughing at him.

  53. Eric has suddenly triggered this bizarre urge to avoid large crowds and seek out safe spaces. Email me urgently should Eric apply for a truck driving licence while looking for a new career.

  54. Poor little snowflake.
    Facing the prospect of your snout been wrenched from the trough it has been stuck in, for the last 11 years. must be very stressful.
    Here’s my suggestion. Get a real job!

  55. Well at least he is trying to get help . The Democrat leaders are all still in the Denier phase and will be
    as long as they sell out to the green blob now running their party .
    Couldn’t happen to a better group of self dealers .
    At least the union membership finally woke up to how their union bosses were screwing them over .

    • I pray these snowflakes are protected! Haha. Love the comments.

      You can help “save the snowflakes”.

  56. “Eric Holthaus revealed his emotional and psychological battle with trying to save the planet.
    I’m starting my 11th year working on climate change, including the last 4 in daily journalism. Today I went to see a counselor about it.”
    Well that’s the merits when “working on climate change”,
    “I know many ppl feel deep despair about climate, especially” the ones who can’t afford to consult a counselor.

  57. Maybe slight OT, but when the talk is about ‘internal combustion’ and young womens ‘dreams of flying’ over the Copa cabana
    ‘her name was Gina, she was a showgirl …’
    And reality keeps knocking:

  58. No problem to reduce *misanthropy* by exactly the half:
    specialize to *misogyny*.
    As most woman prefer.

  59. Faking facts is nothing new since Jesus was a carpenter like his stepfather Joseph and the term ‘facere’ is the latin root of indogerman ‘fabricate’, ‘fabrication’, ‘fabricated’.
    -> manipulation is post-latin italian and we use that everyday in terms of ‘clean your hands!’
    Or when we’re trying to be polite.

  60. My ex-girlfriend friend was a Gina 2.
    She did computer design for car sub-suppliers in Freilassing.
    We were together some 24 years.
    Left me, the unsportive misogynist.
    really thought I’d never forget ‘Regina’.
    Times they are a changing.

    • What Regina never understood, what I never explained to her:
      I’m not keen to raise a son with surname ‘Wundersamer’.
      I’ve had enough.
      My son will have it better: without me.

  61. Well, Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
    maybe some second hand american speakers belong to nasturtiums too.

  62. See, that’s my real interests. *
    As Karl Kraus said: “it’s our common language that divides us.”
    230 parts PER MILLION or 400 parts PER MILLION.
    When you don’t get the difference between qualities and quantities
    you can’t see the gaps between auxiliary sciences like math and real objectivity in history.
    sci is the indogerman root for scheissen, schneiden, trennen-
    shit, cut, differentiate.
    While mathematicians are Zwangsneurotiker:
    hunted neurotics.
    * my real interests are ethnies, languages, what makes people ticking, and why there’s no way for eternal life:
    Will you sustain a WWII Sherman Tank when there’s a Leopard 2 on the heavy weapons fair.

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