Eric Holthaus: Too upset to work because of President-elect Trump

Guest post by David Middleton

snowflake

Meteorologist opens up about the struggle with fighting climate change

Eric Holthaus revealed his emotional and psychological battle with trying to save the planet.

@EricHolthaus

I’m starting my 11th year working on climate change, including the last 4 in daily journalism. Today I went to see a counselor about it.

@EricHolthaus

I’m saying this b/c I know many ppl feel deep despair about climate, especially post-election. I struggle every day. You are not alone.

@EricHolthaus

There are days where I literally can’t work. I’ll read a story & shut down for rest of the day. Not much helps besides exercise & time

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As nearly as I can tell, this meteorologist’s “job” is to blog alarmist propaganda… This and the election of Donald Trump have apparently put him into therapy and is making it difficult fro him to go to “work.”

At least he doesn’t “work” for the EPA or DOE…

FEDERAL AGENCIES

Tears, angst as workforce braces for Trump takeover

Robin Bravender and Kevin Bogardus, E&E News reporters

Greenwire: Friday, November 11, 2016

U.S. EPA employees were in tears. Worried Energy Department staffers were offered counseling. Some federal employees were so depressed, they took time off. Others might retire early.

And some employees are in downright panic mode in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s victory.

“People are upset. Some people took the day off because they were depressed,” said John O’Grady, president of American Federation of Government Employees Council 238, a union that represents thousands of EPA employees. After Election Day, “people were crying,” added O’Grady, who works in EPA’s Region 5 office in Chicago. “They were recommending that people take sick leave and go home.”

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E&E News

Having gone through four M&A’s since 2001, I can attest that anyone who felt the need to “take sick leave and go home” because they were upset about the new management, would probably find that “leave” to be permanent.

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Like most of the “climate change” community who obsess over climate via the fashionable religion of ‘earth-worship’, one constant remains: *misanthropy* or the hatred of humanity.
So, in fairness to Eric, I have no doubt he harbours extreme feelings of guilt and shame every time he tweets catastrophe, with his iPhone, upon his elite throne of moral virtue.
Thankfully for him, he is not alone in his hatred of all mankind, care of a Club that I’m sure he’s a proud subscriber of… The Club Of Rome…
“The Earth has cancer
and the cancer is Man.”
– Club of Rome (premier environmental think-tank, consultants to the United Nations)

Goldrider

When did this idea the “planet” needs “saving” ever come from to begin with? It sounds like something out of the mouth of an acid-soaked hippie ca. 1970. Today it’s become cliche’.

“Global warming” aka “climate change” is the virtue-signalling religion of our time.
With the decline of religion, some people need a moral signal to show that they’re good.
“Global warming” is particularly good because they don’t actually have to do anything. They don’t have to cure leppers, or feed the hungry. All they have to do is yell that the planet is warming up.
Until they find another way of signalling virtue, we’re stuck with this one!

Steve
markl

Radical environmentalists started it and One World Government types seeing a possible anarchist army of foot soldiers support them.

Johann Wundersamer

Yes, the 70ties.
But everyone is enforced going back to the postmodern future, where facts are faked and ocean that acidificated you can decontaminate your emptied Plzn beer cans in.

Johann Wundersamer

Walking on thin ice.
Never seen that many polar bears while watching all the mammals on discovery channel.
https://youtu.be/gaukPDbZJ9w

Jared

This fanatical reaction to a United States Presidential election is odd. Odd like the Church of Scientology. Former Scientologist Leah Remini is taking down Scientology on a TV series and showing how corrupt and manipulated the believers of the cult are and how hard it is for them to get out. I can see a TV series appearing in the next few years on the CO2 centrist cult. A possible insider scientist will show how corrupt the leaders of this cult are and how they manipulate and force fellow scientist to tow the CO2 centrist cult line or have their career’s ruined. CO2 went from 0.03% the perfect amount to 0.04% of the atmosphere and the entire World collapsed. lol

PiperPaul

+97

john harmsworth

Call the series, “Breathing Deeply”!

Trace gas carbon dioxide controlling every weather event. Hilarious indeed. Though the gullible have bought in lock stock. Powerful tool the “environment” – make ppl believe anything.

Rhee

Dr Judith Curry is doing a bang up job at exposing the church of IPCC

john harmsworth

A lot of these “snowflakes” are pretty unbalanced and border-line obsessive-compulsive. It’s the only thing that explains their blind devotion and complete indifference to facts or consequences.

Wally

I cried for days when I heard there was no such thing as Santa Claus.

Well-said climatism.

marty

@ Climatism: >>“The Earth has cancer
and the cancer is Man.”<<
So why does he himself not the favor to remove himself from the community of mankind?

Trump has made it difficult for him to work ?
I’m reminded of Dr.Johnson’s response when assured that a violin performance was very difficult.
“Difficult do you call it, Sir? I wish it were impossible.”

Trump has (hopefully) made it difficult not to *own* science and use it as a means of moral control to advance a political agenda: earth worship, eco-fascism, power, control, misanthropy.

Carbon BIgfoot

Has anyone heard of Climate Change News? It appears to be a Warmist blog. Who are the actors and the supporting mechanism? Thanks.

Sheri

Carbon: climatechangenews.org or climatechangenews.com?

Hivemind

It is scary that there are both. Judging by their home pages, both are hard-core leftist tools.
Headlines that claim that only 1 out of 9,136 authors rejects global warming, that women suffer as a result of “climate migration” and that the “harassment of climate scientists needs to stop” are good examples.

MarkW

I can just imagine if these guys were in charge during WWII.
Sir, the Japanes have bombed Pearl Harbor.
Oh my God, send in the therapists.

MarkW

Even worse, the Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor.
Or was it the Germans?

Wally

And what do they think now since it’s known that ‘progressive’ Roosevelt knew about in advance?

Gene Selkov

They were. Prior to, during, and after the war. Read this report by Diana West (“American Betrayal”):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BU71BM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

MarkW

FDR knew that the Japanese were planning an attack, but not where. His military advisers thought the attack would be in or around the Phillipines.

The best answer to the question: “Can you play a violin?”
“Don’t know, never tried it yet.”
I am always amazed at what these those lazy conformists call “work.”

Horace Jason Oxboggle

How do you tel when bagpipes need tuning?

Ed Zuiderwijk

Sad news indeed.

Bryan A

Yep, Go Figure, you cut a humOngous hole into a tree and it takes 135 years to kill it sufficiently for a storm to knock it over

Willis Eschenbach

Think it might be related to the giant hole cut through the tree?
w.

Bacullen+1

+1

BillyV

No of course not. This proves the weather is getting much worse as it withstood 137 years and now this storm fell it. /sarc

jimmy_jimmy

that…and the wind

ossqss
Wally

No, the neo-Marxists will blame it on Trump, ….. or the Russians.

hacked by the russians.

radzimir
texasjimbrock

Quick: Plant a sequoia seed!

Sheri

The giant hole was cut through the tree many, many years ago, it seems and only hikers were now allowed under it. As for why it fell, this was probably just the final straw. Trees can only take so much stress. On the up side, we can now find out how old the tree was by counting the rings. Just don’t let the climate change people get ahold of the cross-section.
(I’m sitting here in 40 mph wind with higher gusts. We have no tall trees or old trees whatsoever.)

pameladragon

That poor tree looks dead in the photo, most of the bark appears to be missing. No bark, no cambium layer, dead tree. Very sad, they could not put the path around the tree?
PMK

Rhee

@PMK according an article I ready, it was the National Forest and/or Parks Service(s) which promulgated the hollowing and tunnelling of sequoias in order to create attractions promoting tourism in the parks.

Rhee

oops… ready == read (darn I hate autocorrect)

Was there a National Park Services dept 137 years ago? Can’t blame everything on the Gov.

Rhee , established in 1916

We can always make another one.

Latitude

Not much helps besides exercise & time….
He’s just saying he doesn’t want to do his job…and would rather play

Chris in Hervey Bay

Give him some play doh and a cup of hot coco, he’ll be ok.

bill johnston

And whatever you do, don’t yell at him.

oeman50

Don’t forget the fuzzy kitty.

Vince

Forget the hot coco, give him some baby formula.

Recommended therapy for any depressed CAGW snowflake:
boxful of colouring sheets
http://josephvan.me/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/World-Map-Coloring-Page-Coloring-Book-inside-World-Map-Coloring-Page.jpg
with a basket of red crayons

Wally

Try this for size.
There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/12/16/20161218_trump1_0.jpg

Shawn Marshall

Talk about your snowflakes! Do Meteorologists have to take Thermo or physics? Do they know CAGW is not physically possible?

texasjimbrock

Hugs: Re: Your coat warms you. Ummm. No. It retains your body heat. Insulation, right? Geez.

Sheri

Maybe he has an electric coat?

MarkW

I had a pair of electric socks some years back.

schitzree

I’m pretty sure that was his point, Tex. Insulation doesn’t violate the laws of thermodynamics because it isn’t about a cold thing providing more energy to a warm thing, it’s about a cold thing slowing down the loss of energy FROM the warm thing. We just refer to both processes as ‘warming’.

MarkW

Mind if I re-phrase that, just a little more technically?
All objects radiate, the amount that they radiate is determined by their temperature.
Unless an object is completely surrounded by a region that is at absolute zero, it will also be receiving radiation from it’s environment.
An object that is receiving more radiation than it radiates, will warm up. If it is receiving less, it cools down.
That object will continue to warm up or cool down, until it’s own radiation comes back into balance with what it is receiving.
Thus, if part of it’s environment warms up, the object will start to receive more radiation. Thus the object must warm until it’s radiation is back in equilibrium.

Stewart Finess

Yes, on occasion very cold things can add a little warmth to their immediate environment. Meet my wife.
Of course the energy input that is necessary to create the change of state, which then in turn results in the excess radiated warmth, cannot be predicted in consistent manner. Seems that there are way too many inter-related variables and stand alone variables that may or may not even have anything to do with the with the energy inputs.

Johann Wundersamer

way too many -> way to many

Hivemind

Generally they do degrees in media relations.

Margaret Smith

I watched an interview with Christopher Monckton on You Tube….I have never seen him so happy and radiant. So just as we are delighted, the other side is in misery. What joy!

Ed Zuiderwijk

Would a bed-time story help? Cinders has always been popular with the oppressed.

Sean Peake

I saw the Tweets. I’ll lay off the guy. He has some serious problems to work out

Trebla

These people who took time off because they were sad. That would be time off without pay? Oh wait! I forgot. They’re Federal employees. Silly me!

Mumbles McGuirck

We just received a memo, that Federal employees in the DC area will receive Inauguration Day off! (Supposedly because of the massive traffic jam that will ensue.) However, the rest of us poor sods who DON’T work in DC still have to go to work. Personally, I’m just waiting to see when they change to official photo portrait of POTUS that hangs in our lobby. Wonder if anyone will attempt to remove it when no one’s around?

Hivemind

Perhaps they got the day off so they can protest?

Darrell Demick

Tell him to move to Alberta, Canada!!! We have had colder than average temperatures since the start of 2017, exactly in line with our new “Carbon Tax”. Apparently the “Carbon Tax” is working ……….

Jeff in Calgary

I don’t understand how giving the government an extra $300/month will help slow down global warming… I think it is actually to pay for all the government workers salary raises…

MarkW

If people can no longer afford energy, they will use less energy.

and comfortable pensions which many working people will never see

Joe Prins

Darrell,
The carbon tax is working because when people move out of the province there are fewer folks that breath out that toxic, all powerful trace gas, thus less CO2. Ergo, it gets colder. Heck, it is only – 19.7 C here right now.

Darrell Demick

Dang it, Joe, you have hit the nail squarely on the head.
The science IS settled!!!!!!
: )

MarkW

Last time I hit my nail, I cussed for about 5 minutes.

Darrell Demick

Oh yeah, and cry me a river! Better yet, grow up!

Poor ickle snowflake. Perhaps he can get an unstressful job flipping burgers.

Actually, I often dream of such elitist snowflakes being subjected to working a McD’s double drive-thru for lunch. A team of therapists, shrinks and life coaches would be insufficient…

Gamecock

‘Some people took the day off because they were depressed’
And because they could.
Where I worked, no one dared leave when the bosses said, “Non-essentials can go home.”

3øworth

Eric Holthaus is a veritable Climate Crusader and is likely afflicted with PTSD – Pre Trump Stress Disorder. Wait until he gets POST Trump Stress Disorder. What will happen to the poor dear then?
Of course some of the people who work for the EPA will undoubtedly get PJSD after Trump becomes President – Post Job Stress Disorder. Maybe they will go on to lead productive lives.

Samuel C Cogar

And thousands will undoubtedly get PTDR after Trump becomes President – Post Trump Disability Retirement ……. @ 85% of working salary, plus yearly COLAs

The problem with some of the comments here is the implication that the co2 hate obsession that leftists / enviro wackos have is contrary to earth worship.
As most of you know there could be nothing better for the health of all living things than more co2. Cow literally is what plants are made of and the result of plants consuming more co2 is more oxygen and food for animals. Co2 does absorb a little heat and it may keep the planet from going into another ice age and may promote more life.
We might lose some coastline but maybe not. Even with the constant rising seas during the entire interglacial period that has seen the rise of man and civilization we have survived this and incredibly coastal km has increased in the last 30 years due partly to the fact man can build coastline. At 5″ a century man can cope with it. It’s not the hell we would be told.
There is strong evidence storms decrease with higher temps. Decreasing difference between polar regions and the tropics regions reduce the energy flow that is the source for most large movements of energy. It shouldn’t have been that surprising that rising temperatures especially at the poles would decrease storms. There is more rain lifting the land as acqifers fill and reducing desserts and glaciers recede slowly as they have been for 15000 years.

Darrell Demick

You are 100% correct, 100% of the time – totally annihilated the 97% gang, well done!!!

John in Oz

(after a chuckle) –

Cow literally is what plants are made of

This slip of the keyboard is back asswords – cows are made of plants (and I only eat vegetarian animals).

Jer0me

You don’t like pork?

I’m sad too.
I’m sad that despite clear warnings for several decades by the most credible scientists that global warming alarmism was not proven (eg Richard Lindzen) and was in fact false, that trillions of dollars of scarce global resources were squandered on this false alarm – funds that should have been allocated to solving real global problems.
I’m sad that in the ~three decades that false global warming alarmism has been rampant, about 60 million kids below the age of five have died from contaminated drinking water. That is more people than died on all sides in WW2.
A fraction of the funds wasted on warmist nonsense would have put clean water and sanitary systems into every village on the planet.
So I’m sad too, because of the lost opportunities to do real good instead of real harm.
As for the warmist scammers, I hope they ultimately realize the great harm they have done to humanity, and that they reflect, for the rest of their lives, on their corruption and their folly.
Regards, Allan
References:
https://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/KyotoAPEGA2002REV1.pdf
We published this in 2002:
“Kyoto wastes enormous resources that are urgently needed to solve real environmental and social problems that exist today. For example, the money spent on Kyoto in one year would provide clean drinking water and sanitation for all the people of the developing world in perpetuity.”

AGW is not Science

Agreed 100%. And proof positive that the Climate Fascists are at their core anti-human, except for themselves, of course.

A fraction of the funds wasted on warmist nonsense would have put clean water and sanitary systems into every village on the planet.

The real problem has always been not finding the money, but to get it past corrupt administrations to where it is actually needed.

Michael Palmer – money is also needed.
Donate if you can to CAWST.
http://www.cawst.org/takeaction/donate
13.1 million people helped with clean water and sanitation in the past 15 years..
CAWST | Centre for Affordable Water and Sanitation Technology
http://www.cawst.org/
The Centre for Affordable Water and Sanitation Technology (CAWST) teaches people how to get safe drinking water, sanitation and hygiene in their own homes.
“The statistics are chilling: over 1.8 billion people are drinking fecally contaminated water, while 2.4 billion people lack access to basic sanitation.”
Regards, Allan

MarkW

A former church used to take up a Christmas offering every year to fund the drilling of wells in India. In the 10 years that I was there, we funded a bit over 100 wells.

Darrell Demick

Sir, very well put. So very sad and so very true.

Lucius von Steinkaninchen

The river of salty tears of all those climate alarmists will end up disturbing the ocean streams or something.

tetris

Maybe the salt will counterbalance the “catastrophic CO2 ocean acidification” that is threatening the coral reefs “forevahhh”…

Hivemind

Crocodile tears.

Bruce Cobb

He displays both passive aggression and virtue signaling. Perhaps he has mommy and/or daddy issues. Quitting his “job” would appear to be an excellent solution to his predicament. His cohorts should also be shown the door.

Sheri

If passive-aggressive behavior merits removal from the job, we can expect a huge number of job openings in the very near future.

RockyRoad

Maybe Eric has just realized that for the last 11 years, he’s been on the wrong side of the issue–that would make anybody depressed.
It sort of reminds me of the politically-correct California mindset through this past drought: They must have thought it would last forever because instead of upgrading and expanding their water system state-wide, they did nothing even though their population has grown. All this recent abundant precipitation has had nowhere to go but to the ocean.
For people who are always telling us they’re concerned with the future, their actions are on the level of epic fail.

+10

These people are just so pathetic. He’s just showing he is soooooo concerned about the situation it’s driving him nuts. The subtext being, if you aren’t feeling the same, you don’t care as much as he does

Crispin in Waterloo

The confusion and depression arises because of living inside a bubble for so long. A new term, ‘a failure of Clintonesque proportions’ has entered the lexicon. CAGW is facing such a payday. It turns out that wishing something was true really, really, really hard doesn’t make it true.
Virtue signalling that you wish it wasn’t true definitely worked for a while, inside the bubble with its shiny psychedelic colours shimmering around. But bubbles have a habit of popping. Out here in the real world where the air is clear, we have to work for a living.
‘S’cuse me, mate, you mind picking up one of those shovels?’

But with his 11 years of sucking up he’ll have a healthy pension at 35 years old and I am sure he’ll have another job soon.These people should not be in line for that kind of farewell gift.

Cold in Wisconsin

Is this the same goof that announced he would undergo forced sterilization to save the planet? He may have other un-diagnosed problems. He should be on a list not to be able to purchase firearms.

John V. Wright

Well spotted, Cold old chap. He’s willing to undergo forced sterilisation is he? Well, at least he’s got that right.
By the way, how forced is that? You hold him down, I’ll bring the bricks…..

Harry Passfield

Bricks??!! Does it hurt? (Not if you keep your thumbs out of the way!)

AGW is not Science

Meanwhile, what do you want to bet he ends up with 4 or 5 kids, like so many other hypocrites talking about “depopulating” the Earth of (other, of course) humans.

tetris

Given his mental state he should start with himself. Lopping his marbles is not only ideologically correct but will trigger a drop in testosterone which should help with his passive aggressive mood swings…

Sheri

Passive-aggressive is not due to testosterone, but rather the lack thereof. It’s a cowardly, whiney way of getting what you want. Words over actions, always the martyr. Testosterone, on the other hand, just says to apply force to the speaking part of the person causing you stress. Very, very straightforward.

MarkW

Hulk smash!

John V. Wright

Priceless post DM, thank you for that. Fortunately, individual snowflakes fade away quickly so we will not have to endure his whiny voice for much longer. We know also, don’t we, without meeting this individual that when he speaks his voice goes up at the end of each sentence and it sounds as if he is asking a question. It is when snowflakes get together that the problems begin, clogging up the channels to logical thinking and scientific enquiry.
What an absolutely waste of space this individual is. Almost an insult to actual snowflakes.

Hivemind

I like the term: Oxygen Thief

Eric H

Just another emasculated weeny clutching at “his” pearls. He writes for Slate…

stock

An unexpected effect of the coming global cooling is…….more snowflakes

Dave in Canmore

Ha!

Shytot

Surely this guy and his buddies should be happy – at least now they can clearly see and show the real effects of Climate Change …. unfortunately (for them) the changes are mainly in the Political Climate.
I think things are definitely going to heat up for a lot of these poor little souls – finally they will have their unprecedented (but local) warming too!

Resourceguy

I would suggest a nice relaxing vacation to northern Iraq to get away from it all.

Catcracking

Preferably Mosul, if not there, Syria. Messes all created by Obama

Chuck

Whenever this “saving the planet” nonsense comes up, I ask two simple questions:
1) What do we have to do to save the planet?
2) How do we know when it’s been saved?
If they can’t answer these questions then “saving the planet” is just a cliche with no meaning.

Bruce Cobb

George Carlin had something to say about “saving the planet”; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c
The hubris and self-importance, let alone the insanity of it speaks volumes for where the priorities of these people are.

phaedo

I pity the counselor.

Curious George

A long term guaranteed job is not bad.

Which is worse, a faulty world view or depression over being challenged to abandon a faulty world view ?
Short-term depression is often necessary for building the strength to move through and conquer life’s hardships. You get a divorce, you get over it and move on. You get fired, you move on and try to find another job. Your house gets foreclosed on, you take steps to recover. Bankruptcy, death of a spouse or loved one, …….. There are so many crises in life that challenge us to get stronger.
My advice to all those feeling depressed over Trump’s election is to examine WHY you feel depressed, and make an assessment of whether the problem is with Trump or with YOU.
Be honest now. [maybe asking too much]

Roger Knights

Teddy Roosevelt said, “If you’re going through hell, keep going.”

Johann Wundersamer

[maybe asking too much] -> [maybe asking to much]

Curious George

Poor guy’s work on climate change is in jeopardy. I hope the climate change can survive without him.

mary

I can see why Eric Holthaus is so upset……. because he was blindly following the climate alarmists. Therefore he abandoned his own ability to think things through and instead lived in a world of unreality. When living in a world of unreality crashes with reality, it can cause a psychotic break. That is what the election did for many people. It exposed their blind following. That is can be very upsetting. I blindly followed the Vietnam war advocates and have been sorry ever since. I know the feeling of reality crashing against unreality.
The politically run, climate alarmist blind following has been weaseling its way onto my college students and they thought Eric’s world was real. They too started blindly following climate alarmists, and then they too got depressed when the newly elected Republicans said,
“Hey wait, lets evaluate where we are spending environmental money and not throw it away, lets have a well thought out non political environmental policy.”
Eric went to therapy and my college students skipped classes when Trump won because they were told by leftists he was going to pollute the earth, end all gay marriages and send all people from Mexico home. They felt unsafe. They were just as depressed as Eric. So they decided to do nothing, like Eric.
Scientist, physicist and philosopher Buckminster Fuller in his book “The Critical Path” said the only way humanity will stay on this planet is if humans each think for themselves. He believes that to get caught up in emotional political movements will end humanity on the planet. Eric’s political reaction of depression and withdrawal from life demonstrates what happens when it is an emotional movement you are blindly following and not your own heart and mind.
Thanks Eric for showing my students now while they are young enough to change, to get their own facts, not blindly follow a political movement. Your article will inadvertently help them make their own decisions, and not have to be a blind follower. This is how we save the planet, one human at a time.
41 great comments everyone above

Willis Eschenbach

I loved this from the article:

He covers everything from super typhoons in Hong Kong to walking conditions in Atlanta, tying it all back to the warming planet – which is something many of his colleagues refuse to do.

Umm … dude … there’s a REASON your colleagues don’ do ‘dat …
w.

“It impossible to reason a person out of a position that was not reasoned into” – idk

I hope Trump ultimately makes it difficult for any of them to ‘work’.

Willis Eschenbach

This joker is hilarious. Here are some of his headlines:
From mid-2016:
“HOLLYWOOD IS FINALLY TAKING ON CLIMATE CHANGE. IT SHOULD GO EVEN FURTHER.”
… dang … late to the party much? Hollywood has been making lousy climate change movies and gushing over Leonardo’s climate antics for a long time.
And from June:
“CLIMATE ACTIVISTS: ITS TIME TO JOIN HILLARY”
We can see how much good that did.
Then there is plenty of obligatory “It’s worse than we thought!” nonsense, like this one:
UH OH: ANTARCTICA MIGHT MELT MUCH FASTER THAN WE THOUGHT.
Finally, my all-time fave …
“THIS CLIMATE CHANGE DOCUMENTARY WANTS TO INSPIRE OPTIMISM—BUT IT JUST DEPRESSED ME MORE”
Bummer, man … Trump is harshing his vibe …
w.

Lacrymosity from a grown man.
How unsightly.

SMC

Ah well, he’s in touch with his feminine side. 😂

That’s an insult to all females!

Catcracking

My question is: what will be societies loss if he stops working. Will it be a plus or a minus to society? Everything I read hear it will be a big plus if he stops working and giving out false science.
So let’s all hope he stops working, it will be societies gain and we wish him well in his recovery from delusional science.

rocketscientist

What will the world do with all the superfluous individuals?

MarkW

Soylent Green

drednicolson

Give them all one-way plane tickets to China. Economy Class, Buy Your Own Carbon Credits.
A few weeks in the People’s Republic should disabuse them of their snowflakey attitudes pretty fast.

RobR

In an age where highly scripted realty shows proudly exhibit pretentious melodrama, it’s little wonder these self-proclaimed planetary saviors jockey for most aggrieved status.
A blowhard lacking imagination invites the contempt of reasonable minds; most notably with celebreties who fail to follow through on promises to leave the country.

AGW is not Science

Really…I’m STILL waiting for Alec Baldwin to leave…

Darrell Demick

BUT CANADA IF OFF LIMITS! We have enough self-righteous-save-the-planet “humans”‘ up here, unfortunately they work their way into politics and run the provinces and country!

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7

The funny thing is I went to the polls on Nov 8th expecting a Clinton victory and another 4 or 8 years of loony policy on multiple fronts, including “climate change”. But it never would have occurred to me to boo hoo on social media a seek counseling had Clinton won; just to dig in and continue to support the causes I believe in.
After Trump’s victory I was warily cautious that we could avoid jumping over the cliff with the rest of the climate lemmings. After his cabinet announcement for EPA, DOE and Attorney General my confidence rose. I won’t say I’m ecstatic, because it is a very big swamp, but events so far are very encouraging.
But if all the AGW climate warriors are as fragile as this guy I’ll pop the champaign corks tomorrow. We won’t have to get rid of them all because they’ll do it to themselves. Sounds like he should try dating Leena Dunham so they could tweet their shared despair and depression together.

markl

The swamp has begun draining on it’s own and the siphon will ensure more to follow.

urederra

He could have gone to Moscow, to celebrate the coldest Christmas night in 120 years and spread some of his global warming news. Apparently locals did not get the memo.
https://www.rt.com/news/372902-orthodox-christmas-frost-celebrate/
… or maybe it is just Urban Heat Island vortex weather effect- 😛

wws

No, he can’t go to Moscow!!! For the first time in 70 years, Democrats and the left (but I repeat myself) are in universal agreement that Russia is the Source of All Evil.
(what, do they mean that Romney was right in 2012?)

I’m starting my 11th year working on climate change, including the last 4 in daily journalism. Today I went to see a counselor about it.

Admitting one has a problem is the greater part of recovery.

Harry Passfield

Dead right, Roy. This has to be the most glaring case of cognitive dissonance I have ever seen. It’s classic’

J Mac

Spot On!

rocketscientist

He didn’t mention what sort of counselor he visited. Perhaps he ought to have spoken with a Guidance Counselor, and sought a more productive career. Unfortunately the guidance counselor might only recommend he attend a seminary.

Catcracking

David,
Thanks for this article. I am having trouble expressing much sympathy for these folks knowing how badly they would treat us if Hillary won the election.

Steve

Supporting climate change alarmism has a real appeal to those who want to elevate their sense of self importance. It makes you feel like you understand science better than others and gives you a Robinhood-like self image because you are advocating shutting down of the big bad oil companies and making them pay for the damage they are doing to “the planet” in the name of science. Labeling yourself as a climate change activists is a much more interesting answer to the question “What do you do?” than saying “I write comments on Twitter”.
A climate change alarmist is living in feel good bubble so they shut down anything that might burst it, “The discussion is over! The science is settled! I don’t want to hear anything that might disturb this great feeling I have about myself”

PiperPaul

+97. In many cases it’s also the groupthink behaviour of siding with whichever gang you think will do you the most damage if you don’t agree with them. So there’s an element of cowardice involved as well.

Roger Knights

Nothing is so dangerous as being too modern. One is apt to grow old-fashioned quite suddenly.
—Oscar Wilde, “An Ideal Husband,” Act 2,

Johann Wundersamer

too modern. -> to modern.

Roger Knights

Huh? “. . . too modern” is correct.

stevekeohane

Glen Beck and crew had some laughs over Holthaus this morning.

William Astley

Eric Holthaus is an activist as opposed to a Journalist, part of the problem, not part of the solution.
There are logical standard steps to solving any problem: determine what is or is not the problem, prioritizing the problems, and determine solutions that work as opposed to throwing money away, and so on.
Fake Climate Science/Fake Journalism/Activism: See climate ‘science’ and reporting of climate science: Objective is to push propaganda, lying is forced/mandatory as the data/analysis does not support CAGW or even AGW.
Real science/real journalism: (asks and answers questions, acknowledges anomalies and paradoxes, looks at all the data, data is not manipulation, people are fired for lying, press helps keep the system honest)
http://notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/How-Attribution-Climate-Science-Works-2015-16.jpg
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/davis-and-taylor-wuwt-submission.pdf

Davis and Taylor: “Does the current global warming signal reflect a natural cycle”
…We found 342 natural warming events (NWEs) corresponding to this definition, distributed over the past 250,000 years …. …. The 342 NWEs contained in the Vostok ice core record are divided into low-rate warming events (LRWEs; < 0.74oC/century) and high rate warming events (HRWEs; ≥ 0.74oC /century) (Figure). … …. "Recent Antarctic Peninsula warming relative to Holocene climate and ice – shelf history" and authored by Robert Mulvaney and colleagues of the British Antarctic Survey ( Nature , 2012, doi:10.1038/nature11391),reports two recent natural warming cycles, one around 1500 AD and another around 400 AD, measured from isotope (deuterium) concentrations in ice cores bored adjacent to recent breaks in the ice shelf in northeast Antarctica. ….

Greenland ice temperature, last 11,000 years determined from ice core analysis, Richard Alley’s paper. William: As this graph indicates the Greenland Ice data shows that have been 9 warming and cooling periods in the last 11,000 years.
http://www.climate4you.com/images/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%20CO2%20from%20EPICA%20DomeC.gif
Trump said NAFTA was the worst deal ever negotiated by the US.
True or false? If someone lies to you, have they told other lies?
http://cns7prod.s3.amazonaws.com/us-mexico_trade_deficit-photo.jpg

john harmsworth

I wouldn’t worry about Mexico. They buy from the U.S. as well as sell. It’s trading with the Chinese while they oppress their people, disturb the peace in the South China sea and conduct corporate espionage via government agents that I don’t get.

Sheri

Mexico sends in drugs through tunnels and its people live here illegally. I do worry about Mexico. Maybe not the trade deficit, but overall, the situation seems to merit worry.

MarkW

How many more illegals would be trying to come here, without the economic growth that came about because of NAFTA?

William Astley

Come on man. Let’s have more than 10 minutes thought. Think out of the dang liberal box.
First, business as usual is not working. The US cannot afford to lose better high paying jobs. As Trump noted in the election, the US has lost 70,000 manufacturing plants.
BMW and Toyota are currently building plants in Mexica. Volkswagen and Mazda are there now. All of the car manufacturers will move to Mexica if action is not taken.
Purchase lower labor goods which we now purchase from China, from Mexico such as garments, toys, and so on. China is the number one long term threat to US interests both business and military.
Require that higher labor goods such as cars be built in the US.
Europeans will only purchase higher labor goods such as cars that are made in Europe. The US has a skilled, reliable labor force.

MarkW

No matter what we do, those jobs are lost.
They are either lost to Mexico and other foreign producers, or they are lost to automation.
PS: Automation is the major reason behind the drop in US manufacturing employment, not shipping jobs over seas.
PPS: The only reason why such jobs were once good paying is because unions had the political power to force companies to pay more than the jobs were worth. And because the rest of the world took decades to recover from WWII.

MarkW

All of companies that moved to to Mexico, would have gone to Asia had NAFTA not been passed.
The fact that you focus only on Mexico is like Griff whining over and over about the Arctic but ignoring the rest of the world.

David L. Hagen

Might Eric Holtaus learn to grow up by studying and applying the Spartan agog military training and understand why it was so successful?

“The Sparta military system as contrary to the other Greek city-states was not based on the gymnastic and strength superiority, it was more based on the military endurance of soldiers through different physical training, in different conditions; they were trained to sustain hunger, cold, and any kind of dangerous situation. The Spartan military training was known for the high level of discipline and efficiency, the Spartan military education was known as the Agog.”

What Made the Spartan army as successful as it was. Mimoza Budeci

I vaguely remember the day that I admitted to myself that Santa Clause was not real.comment image
Yeah, it was kind of depressing, but after that, intellectual experience was so much richer.

1saveenergy

“Santa Clause was not real.” !!!!!
Don’t talk such rubbish, next you’ll be telling us the tooth fairy doesn’t exist.
Well I have proof she does…shes collected all my teeth, glued them on a base & put them in a glass next to the bed

Scott

Classic virtue-signalling, you see the similar thing when Dear Leader dies and all the women are out wailing in the streets. It’s really quite sad to see people act like this.

Hivemind

The women are all out wailing in the streets at the death of the Dear Leader because they don’t want to end up dead too.

o

Perhaps the caped crusader can rescue him!
http://blogs.agu.org/mountainbeltway/files/2012/03/scottsmall.jpg

ossqss

Gotta send him some of those boots for the SLR. That’s the ticket. 🙂