Guest essay by Eric Worrall
While Anthony was setting up his exhibit with Willis at the AGU convention, in another part of the conference, Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown has vowed to launch his own satellites, if Trump switches off NASA satellite climate data collection.
California governor: ‘If Trump turns off the satellites, California will launch its own damn satellite’
California Gov. Jerry Brown gave a fiery speech on climate change policy on Wednesday, during which he said, “If Trump turns off the satellites, California will launch its own damn satellite,”according to The Los Angeles Times.
Brown was speaking at the 2016 meeting of the American Geophysical Union, a prominent body of scientists who study Earth and space.
In November, a top adviser to President-elect Donald Trump suggested the incoming administration would eliminate NASA’s earth science programs.
That would mean failing to launch, shutting down, or turning over the suite of satellites that provide the trove of data NASA releases about the Earth and its land, oceans, and air. That data set is critical for tracking hurricanes, coastal erosion, glacial melting, land use, wildfires, and even the approach of solar storms. Scientists across disciplines — and the world — have since told Business Insider that such a move would hurt their ability to do research.
The AGU meeting, not normally a hothouse of news-making political dissent, this year has been the site of public protests and appeals to Trump not to cut back or defund climate research.
I’ve got no problem with a few additional climate satellites. A few state based satellite launches and space missions could be an exciting new addition to America’s space efforts, and would be far more productive use of taxpayer’s money than funding useless wind turbines.
Addendum by Anthony:
Here is Brown at AGU:
Given Brown’s track records on big projects, such as the ill-fated bullet train to nowhere and his idea for water tunnels under the California Delta, the chances of him actually starting his own space program are pretty slim, even if he demands it. That, and all this saber rattling is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to a psychotic episode by Eric Holthaus in the Washington Post:
Readers may recall he is the same guy who vowed to have a vasectomy to save the planet, and to never fly again, then went ahead and had a child anyway, then later lectured us about family size. Holthaus is nothing more than a clickbait generator.
Right outside of where Brown was speaking at AGU16, other heads were exploding on the street as this was being pitched to AGU attendees.
Class act, these people.
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Just a thought… 1 damn satellite is not going to do the job.
How come Moonbeam continues to be elected? Oh wait, California is the land of dreams, millionaire movie stars and fantasy. They should make a movie……oh wait…..
More like ‘the land of fruits and nuts.’
“Americans are considered crazy anywhere in the world. They will usually concede a basis for the accusation but point to California as the focus of the infection. Californians stoutly maintain that their bad reputation is derived solely from the acts of the inhabitants of Los Angeles County. Angelenos will, when pressed, admit the charge but explain hastily, “It’s Hollywood. It’s not our fault–we didn’t ask for it; Hollywood just grew.” The people in Hollywood don’t care; they glory in it…” Robert A. Heinlein, “– And He Built a Crooked House–“
I strongly suspect that nobody in Los Angeles can hold a candle to the residents of San Francisco.
What would the cost be for California to launch and maintain their own satellite? And for what purpose? They are desperate to find some sort of data that supports the idea that California will need to adapt to a changing climate.
Instead of a satellite, how many desalination plants could be constructed along the California coast, with that money, to help satisfy their need for more fresh water? Something that might actually solve a problem rather than desperately trying to find one.
Perhaps those in Hollywood who are so worried abut climate will contribute a good portion of the $millions they made doing their fake stuff. I am sure Gov Brown will tap those generous individuals to pay for his project. I wonder how much the liability insurance would be for any damage caused down range in other states from any failed launch? No problem, once again he can surely count on Hollywood to foot the bill.
Leftists only contribute other people’s money to the causes they care about.
Thomas,
Consider the environmental impact, and the response of California environmentalists, if either high salinity water were to be dumped back into the ocean, or alternatively solid salt would have to be disposed of.
“high salinity water were to be dumped back into the ocean”
“high salinity water were to be dumped back into the ocean from whence it came”,
There fixed that.
Except the salinity is drastically altered.
I see when it comes to irony and hypocrisy they are just clueless. Lovely.
How are Governor Brown’s satellites going to be launched? On rockets running on renewable energy?
Skeptics want to keep the satellite data, we need them as much as we need anything in this world, so I dont know what drugs these people are taking.
Their perception of us couldnt be further away from reality.
Yes, indeed, Mr. Martin.
The AGW cult members such as Chris above are completely fooled.
Brown, et al. are not. They know exactly what the deal is. Enviroprofiteers twist NASA data to bilk the public. Brown & Co want that to continue. So, yesterday Brown, with much pseudo-self-righteous bluster slapped up a giant poster painted in wildly drawn, Clown Nose Red, letters TO FOOL THE DEMOCRAT BASE.
“Trump is anti-science!”
Back us socialists — we’ll keep you safe.
Would I lie? Jerry Brown
Yes, Janice, I, along with the Fortune 1000, along with all the oil and gas companies, are fooled. Rightttttt.
You prove that every day.
MarkW, ouch, I am hurt. MarkW insulted me, my entire week is now ruined.
You’re thinking in connected terms again. But these people only operate in terms of headline PR writing. There is no connected thought process to be found. It is all a collections of single day statements at a time.
i see the believers are starting the campaign to discredit true facts.
Unfortunately for the believers television debates may take place which cannot be discredited .
Or do they need all the help they can get?
This from the guy who came up with the regulating of cow flatulence.
Hey, why not take all that and use if for rocket fuel. Kill two birds with one stone.
Assuming there are any birds left to kill after they finish building all the wind mills that are planned.
“Class act, these people.”
It’s kinda like censoring science just because you don’t understand it, huh?
No, I understand it just fine, and enough to know its bogus. It’s mostly just that you Sky dragon slayer mucky mucks just turn threads into food fights because you keep insisting you are right, and the rest of science is wrong. Feel free to be as upset as you wish- especially since you are too cowardly to use your name while complaining.
I understand science just fine. That’s why I’m a critic of C/AGW. Refresh my memory, which prediction/projection made in the year 2000 happened by 2013 ? Last I saw there were none. If I did that in let’s say physics or chemistry, it wouldn’t be science would it ?
That whole bogus line of ” if we don’t act now, it’ll be too late “. Give up your rights to ” Save ” the World.
Unadjusted data?
No problem!
Tony Heller has it all.
Somewhat bad news for the rest of the states. Those pesky CA expats are already snarling traffic nationwide and doing things like helping to turn TX blue. Which actually means “Red”.
Yes, the leftist ratchet: they break the pendulum. Then break the society.
Why not? I volunteer one centime of a euro to Brown’s damn satellite provided he will be launched in the orbit by the same token. Not that I would mind Californian tax payers financing his damn projects.
As the saying goes, “I can fix a lot of things, but I cannot fix stupid ……”
Either that or the wonderful governor of CA has his snout in the renewables feeding trough. However, given that he is a politician, could go either way on this one.
Embrace the power of ‘and’.
If the science is settled, why do they need to continue to monitor temperatures via satellite?
Where also these posters provided with the white lab coats? https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/12/13/standupforscience-rally-at-agu16-another-manntastic-production/
Thank you Mr. Watts for the reacquainting me with the fact that Mr. Holthaus is a full-blown crackpot and carnival barker.
Naturally, NPR interviewed him yesterday.
Brown is full of himself. He’s spending more of California’s money and his time chasing “Climate Change” than the remainder of the nation. And he’s very proud of it as he travels the world proselytizing his accomplishments. I believe he sent more delegates to Paris than the rest of the US combined. It has become his raison detre and is overtaking the Bullet Train fiasco and California being a “Sanctuary State” as the pinnacle of his legacy. He’s earned the “Moonbeam” handle many times over.
Bread and circus for a gluten free culture. Climate extremism is a great distraction from a $100 billion plus boondoggle.
Who needs NASA ???
New Zealand Rocket Lab is the new option for space launch, with contracts from NASA.
You can even book a space ride.
Seems like the USA, is very passe
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/latest/
Fake news and fake science go hand in hand.
I expect a slow burn, this isn’t on the first 100 day list as a top priority. Then we see a live 10.10 head explosion event;
I don’t think Moonbeam understands that launching satellites use rocket fuel. Can’t do it with windmills or solar power. Can’t fight global warming burning rocket fuel…
The fake news is that Trump is Anti-Climate-Science, the real news is that Trump is Anti-Fake-Climate-Science.
With no hope of mitigating a single micro-degree of ‘climate change,’ this is just another excuse to extort tax money from taxpayers for the government to misuse in a way that will benefit their cronies who donate to their election funds and who set up sham ‘green’ companies to ‘help the earth’.
He’s positioning for a Nobel in climate something or other. The odds are forever in their favor.
Would everyone please stop freaking out. The satellites are up there. They are gathering data. That data will continue being broadcast to Earth. We will continue to record it. The mission support teams will continue to operate. None of that is going anywhere. Now, as far as any new satellites are concerned…. Any new Earth sciences satellite should be removed from the auspices of NASA and be funded and run by the agency concerned. Like the new GEOS-R satellite, that’s primarily a NOAA responsibility – not NASA. Long past time we got NASA out of the climastrology business.
TomB,
And put the USGS back into the business of monitoring the surface of the Earth. And maybe have the US Coast and Geodetic Survey monitor sea level.
Hmmm. The primary symbol of a faascist is someone who will not accept democracy. With all the electoral complaints being broadcast by the Democrates, it is clear that the only faascists here, are the Democrats.
R
And perhaps these educationally deficient protesting Democrats, have forgotten that HitIer was a socialist. And ran numerous socialist politices, like the People’s Car, the Workers Holiday Camp, and the Workers Cruise Liner.
R
Even today, they are still calling for electoral college voters to ignore the will of the voters and elect Hillary instead.
But Mark, the Electorial College is going it ignore the will of the voters. Since more people voted for Hillary as opposed to Donald, the “will of the voters” says Hillary should win.
That isn’t how the American electoral college works. Look at a map of the US with each county that voted Trump, vs Clinton. Far more counties voted Trump, than Clinton.