From E&E Legal:
“We are delighted with President-elect Trump’s selection of Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt to head the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Mr. Pruitt has led the charge in recent years to confront head on the enormous federal regulatory overreach proposed by the EPA as epitomized by the Clean Power Plan and Waters of the U.S. rule. As a litigator, he also understands how environmental fringe groups like the Sierra Club and the NRDC – who are bankrolled by renewable energy tycoons like Tom Steyer and George Soros – use the state and federal court systems to essentially create new laws through such schemes as ‘sue & settle.’
It is also reassuring that President-Elect Trump has chosen someone from the state ranks, particularly a state so important to energy production, since it’s the states and their citizens who are suffering the most by this Administration’s out-of-control EPA.
We encourage Mr. Pruitt to gear up for battle since draining the EPA swamp will be met with the utmost resistance from an entrenched and well-funded green industrial complex. Finally, we strongly encourage him to add a deputy administrator to his team who has significant EPA experience, who shares the President’s vision, and can protect that vision from a hostile agency staff.”
Craig Richardson
E&E Legal President
UPDATE: as I was writing this, I got this press release:
CLCV Statement on Pruitt’s Nomination for EPA Administrator
Oakland, CA – In response to news reports that Trump will nominate Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt as EPA Administrator, California League of Conservation Voters CEO Sarah Rose issued the following statement:
“The naming of a climate denier like Scott Pruitt to head the EPA is nothing less than an effort to undermine the agency’s core mission to safeguard our environment. On the campaign trail President-elect Trump vowed to break America’s commitment to the Paris Climate Agreement, to open our public lands to drilling, and to dismantle the EPA. By nominating Scott Pruitt he’s making it clear he intends to follow through on those promises.
“Pruitt has sued the EPA, has fought environmental protections enacted by President Obama, and has denied the science of climate change itself. He represents the very threats the EPA should protect against, not be headed by. The California League of Conservation Voters calls on our Senators to reject this wrong-headed nomination which puts our families and communities at risk.
“California has a unique role to play. We are the sixth largest economy in the world. The decisions we make here, the policies we create, and how we respond to Trump’s attacks on our environmental protections will determine the pace of progress these next four years. We must organize to defend our hard-fought victories because every Californian deserves clean air to breathe and clean water to drink.”
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It’s like Pearl Harbor Day for them, like somebody made a sneak attack.. Some reactions on Twitter:
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Trump to name Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma attorney general suing EPA on climate change, to head the EPA
I don’t understand what the problem is. (:
http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/images2/trump_-establishment-fear-a/1567367-1-eng-GB/Trump_-Establishment-FEAR-A.jpg
(Republicans to the left of him Democrats to the right)
Great picture! I’m still laughing writing this!
“Stuck in the middle with you.”
More on “Sue and Settle”. Between 2009 and 2012, EPA chose not to defend itself in over 60 lawsuits from special interest advocacy groups. These cases resulted in settlement agreements and EPA publishing more than 100 new regulations – including the recent Clean Power Plan.
There is a lot of money being made on climate change, and so a lot of money backing it. It will be a tough job fighting the avalanche of lawsuits. Will be interesting if Pruitt can find a way to quickly short-circuit the ideological/demagogue/political lawsuits so that valid environmental concerns can be addressed.
At the very least there will no longer be premeditated collusion between EPA and advocacy groups to use lawsuits as a means of creating regulations if not laws.
There should be a congressional investigation of those failures to defend sues by green groups.
Come to think of it, new ad hoc congressional subcommittees should be established to investigate lots of alarmist misbehavior by government employees.
There is a way. The endangerment determination can be used by the POTUS for real public health/enviro threats. It’s a standing law requiring zero congressional approval to fund under certain conditions.
The nonsense SC deferral of CO2 back to the EPA can simply be redirected back to the Science Advisory Board for a wide open soup to nuts daubert quality debate. That approach would tie up the discussion for years as the lack of action oriented funding withers the program on the vine.
To be fair and non partisan we should be rigorous that neither industry nor NGO have undue influence on any government agency.
This is a great opportunity to make the pendulum swing back to a more reasonable middle.
Can the EPA sue itself to get these “judgments” over turned?
Here’s what the EPA should be worried about, pollution dumped into rivers across state lines. Of course NC didn’t see it as a problem. But wait! TENNESSEE votes republican.
http://cwfnc.org/polluter-accountability/pigeon-river/
Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
Good to see Trump following through with his election promises “No more money for politicized science!”
And as for radical eco-activist groups like “The Sierra Club”, whose income stream relies on peddling eco-hysteria and climate alarm (supported by the activist EPA) they took fossil fuel money. Lots of it…
https://climatism.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/the-sierra-clubs-broken-moral-compass/
Sarah Rose’s statements blasting Pruitt and his nomination as head of the EPA are factually true–AND THE REASON I SUPPORT TRUMP’S APPOINTMENT OF PRUITT 100%.
Pardon me, make that 110%!
I particularly enjoy the pee the pants comment from witch hunter Senator White Bread . Yes by all means Senator White Bread ” stay tuned” . That little election thingy you just lost is worth staying tuned in about .
The Deplorables reclaimed the USA and that is a big concept to handle . They just didn’t buy your brand of BS and that must be sad , All that money and wasted media to lose .
Your “scientists ” can expect to be brought out front and centre not hiding behind a cowardly and failed smear campaigh that has become just a little to predictable from the Demo rats .
Now maybe you will shut your mouth and open your ears .
The U.S. government sends politicians, bureaucrats and scientists to climate conferences, IPCC and other. The global watermelons will sh!t blue bricks over President The Donald’s picks.
Knowledgeable people from the various skeptic sites should send recommendations to the upcoming Administration.
So it sounds like they think Pruitt is literally that Austrian corporal. Except they already said that about Trump, and it didn’t work.
Make no mistake… these are desparate times for zealots on the Left. Their religion is at stake.
Desparate times usually result in desparate measures. Now is not the time to rejoice. January 20, 2017 when Trump is sworn in… then rejoice.
Until then, keep an eye out for Roman soldiers.
Let them do their best, Joel. They have lost. And they know it.
Steady on, old chap. Steady on.
TRUMP WON!
All is well.
A bit of seasonal cheer (laughter is a very good antidote to worry, you know 🙂
It’s the Most Wonderful Time in 8 Years IT IS!
(youtube — Dana Kamide)
Rejoice!
#(:))
Well, Dana Kamide (or whoever yanked that video). Your “private” video has been viewed hundreds of thousands of times on youtube. What is your problem with the additional views via WUWT?? I even acknowledged you as the creator. The video itself contains all the relevant credits at the end. Thanks for spoiling my comment.
For the record:
The video was humorous, kitschy but tasteful, and made pro-Trump people smile.
Last laugh is still ours — ha! Even though you changed your mind about making people happy,
it is still THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME IN 8 YEARS! 🙂
Hohohohohohoho!
That’s ok, Janice–people can simply go to YouTube and find it under “It’s the most wonderful time in 8 years”,
Good stuff!
It is really feeling like Christmas this year! 🙂
The left have been screaming bloody murder over the Hill site today because of the Pruitt nomination.
Excellent announcement by President elect Trump.
The extraordinary world of deceit, deception, distortions, lies, etc, etc. by climate alarmists is going to come crashing down upon them under the Trump Administration.
The entire phony climate alarmist campaign is going to be exposed to well deserved ridicule by those that were once called “deniers” with “believers” who created the most flawed and idiotic political manipulation of science in history left to hide and scurry away from the ever brightening light.
It’s a great turning point and long overdue.
After many years of abuse for focusing “obsessively” on the very political reality now realized all over this board. The many pointless and petty spaghetti chart disputes over the most trivial of “science” distractions the basic raw central planning nature of the climate change agenda is exposed and acknowledged.
This is far from the end. I wouldn’t underestimate the agenda even today. My post below might be worth a review.
Still, a very good day, I so worried the climate reform might have been traded off for something else. Having seen both Reagan and both Bush’s enable the entire evil process but this is indeed a great appointment.
Just slowing down the BS Federal climate propaganda would help.
Bernie ..Bernie you have a right to be even madder than normal . Your own party stabbed you in the back .
Certainly you can read their confession . So please rant on . We will tune you out too .
In between rants take deep breaths and self analyze how you screwed up so bad .Enjoy the global warming . Old guys need a little heat . So self righteous and please do more talk shows you are good at comedy .
He particiapted in that stabbing.
He voluntarily agreed to ignore the entire email-gate scandal.
If he hadn’t voluntarily disarmed, he might have had a chance of winning.
Instead he decided that not damaging Hillary was more important than his own integrity.
I hope that Soon and his compatriots get re-instated as well. Let’s not forget about what happened to them on a personal level!
It’s a momentous day for sure!
I certainly hope the long game of climate propaganda funding flowing all through educational funding at every level is targeted as the very culture of “climate change” must be rooted out and destroyed. The greenshirt left will simply retreat back to academic incubation mode where it all started so many decades ago and where is should have been targeted for elimination at that time.
It will take many years for the in pipe (pardon the pun) funding of climate demagoguery to exhaust even with swift current action. We already have lost generations of millennials having been completely green indoctrinated with even more to follow.
Fortunately, there is focus on the central planning educational failure as well. I simply don’t under estimate globalist socialism that is in fact a primary driver of main stream “climate change” agenda.
Having known Trump would win, and having said so, and also having known he would do exactly what he said he would do, and facing withering criticism from many on both sides of the political canyon for most of the past year, I can only say…it will only get ever sweeter as the Trump Presidency unfolds.
I mean…we are not even halfway through the transition period.
It is, I must say, nice to see many here who argued vociferously against Trump just a few short months ago, so quickly jumping aboard the Trump train.
For those who say you expected little of him, fasten your seatbelts…I stand by my prediction of last Spring that he will be one of if not the single most successful Presidents in modern history.
Maybe ever.
And the best part…the very best part of a non-politicians winning the White House?
Presidential elections will never ever be the same.
Ever.
His best legacy will be the end of an endless parade of career politicians being shoved down the peoples’ throats.
And the icing on the cake?
The amazing spectacle of watching tens of millions of people simultaneously jockeying for the title of the sorest loser of all time!
HAH!
BTW, I know it is unseemly to gloat.
But this has been so long in coming, and for some of us longer than others.
When this blog was originated, I was not here, because I had by that time already grown sick and tired of years and years of arguing what seemed to be an unwinnable series of arguments, made all the more galling because…
Trump should’ve waited till after the Electoral College votes were counted in Congress and his status sealed.
I worry now the Left and Obama sees their cherished climate religion is about go up inflames that they are going to go crazy postal on President-Elect Trump and do something very unconstitutional.
Dear Joel,
Fear not. There is NOTHING they can do. That is why they are running around screeching their heads off. The news media (such as Drudge) likes to report suppositionally, “In the case that scenario comes to pass …. this could happen,” citing off-the-ranch “scary” stories so we will “stay tuned.” The renegade Texas elector is a disgusting but negligible exception.
Suggestion: ignore the news until December 20th and you will have a much happier two weeks. You won’t miss anything. Once, I took about a 3-month “news vacation.” Didn’t miss a thing. They were still talking about the same stuff. Anything you need to know, you will hear about from family or friends. The Electors are bound by the law and oath to vote the people’s will. Any recounts will only confirm that Trump did, indeed, win.
All is well.
And any unconstitutional acts will be handled quite nicely by those who have sworn to “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.” They far outnumber any renegades who might try something.
Your WUWT friend,
Janice
My point is (to be clear) Obama and his WH staff still hold the reins of power until Jan 20th.
Desparate they will be to save their religion and Obummer’s (shameful) legacy. After Congress counts the Electoral College votes, then we can relax a little more heading to January 20th.
Keep in mind, very powerful, rich, formidible globalist-Socialist forces have suffered stinging defeats in 2016.
-Brexit.
-Trump
-Italy constitutional referendum.
They will not lightly accept their seeming fate going into 2017.
Given the controversy over transgender bathroom edicts, my wife pointed out Obama’s legacy will be in the crapper. In lots of different areas.
Well, Mr. O’Bryan.
You referred explicitly to the electoral college vote which will be final by midnight, 12/19/16. That was quite clear. Thus, I addressed that concern. It will be okay. Trump IS right to go full-ahead — now.
Don’t worry. DO NOT WORRY. Whatever junk the Puppet in Chief does from now until Jan. 19th, it can ALL be undone. All of it. And with a Republican Congress and Executive, quite easily.
I am truly sorry that you are feeling so much angst that you must pour it out onto the pages of WUWT. I really hoped to reassure you. I see that is an impossible task.
Take care, dear Mr. O’Bryan. And remember, life is short. The more time you spend worrying about what might happen, the less you will enjoy TODAY.
“Worry does not prevent tomorrow’s troubles: it empties today of its strength.”
CHOOSE TO BE POSITIVE and….. REJOICE!
You — can — do — it!
All is well.
All will be well.
Janice
#(:))
A question from the Great White North for my “Merkin” friends. If illegal entry to the USA is a crime, could Obama blanket pardon everyone?
Technically it’s against the law but illegal aliens aren’t charged with a crime…..they are just deported if they can’t meet the political asylum criteria. Or if they are in California they are paid to stay and protected against deportation. California thinks it’s above national law and treats it’s borders with Mexico like they control it
Just speculation, but I think the U.S. President can only make individual pardons. Maybe Mr. Istvan knows?
Anyway, unless their individual immigration status changes, they would be involved in a crime going forward after a pardon.
I think the pardon must have a name on it.
No, dear neighbor to the north. They must first be convicted of a crime. They are guilty of illegal entry, but, have not been tried. They can be summarily sent back to their own countries without a trial, but, they are not “criminals” in a pardonable sense.
Keep warm, up there! Oh, and, yes! You would be a terrific addition to The New EPA. 🙂 You’ll have to become a U.S. citizen, though…. . Hm. I didn’t think so. Most Canadians feel that way — they love Canada and good for them. Say! How about “Visiting Canadian Scholar Emeritus?”
#(:))
Hey! Another fun British English issue came to mind (from your using a southern drawl to say, “‘merkin” for American (that for any non-English-as-first-language readers)). I was listening to a British college professor giving a lecture yesterday. She pronounced “American” — “Amereecan. I had never tuned into that difference until yesterday! The average American pronounces it “Amer ih can.”
And — vive la difference (hat tip to the French! 🙂 ).
Janice Moore, for a bit of trivia you might be to high-minded to have picked up on–a “merkin” is a pubic wig, so the spelling is a rather low pun in print.
Janice, a pardon does not require a conviction. Evidence Ford’s pardon of Nixon.
And Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich.
Janice, and all others–remember that the deep state/shadow government has used the assassins bullet far to often. Trump will constantly need to watch his back, and inauguration is NOT assured until that day in Jan.
Thanks for the correction, Charlie S.. I should have said “arraigned”/formally charged with the crime (as Nixon was indicted). I simply was wrong, though — not merely forgetful. And YOUR point (that the second the pardon has been uttered, that they are, once again, guilty (though not yet again formally charged), thus, requiring perpetual pardons was THE BEST one. Thanks for that good insight!
Janice, slow down; Nixon was not indicted. The House of Representatives was considering impeachment, but had taken no action.
And, again, I was speculating about a continuing crime.
Janice, I apologize: Maybe I had better slow down. Not everybody is old enough to have witnessed Nixon’s downfall. Other than Watergate, a great President; extracating us from Vietnam, opening China, others.
After winning the guerrilla climate wars, Charlie Skeptic went home and resumed his pastoral life.
I was too lazy to change the WordPress account name and have, inadvertently, led to the impression that comments with the charlieskeptic header was somehow still from Charlie Skeptic.
Please excuse me. I’ll make the change – sometime?
Dave Fair
Nixon was not indicted. An indictment for the president is impeachment. Nixon resigned before the house voted to impeach.
Dear Charlie,
1. Nixon was charged by the House:
“On this day {July 27th} in 1974, the House of Representatives charges President Richard M. Nixon with the first of three articles of impeachment for obstruction of justice after he refused to release White House tape recordings that contained crucial information regarding the Watergate scandal.”
(http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nixon-charged-with-first-of-three-articles-of-impeachment )
2. Please re-read what I wrote. I acknowledged that you were correct. “Perpetual pardons” means that the crime would be ongoing. It would be pardoned only so long as the pardon never stopped being uttered.
I was trying to compliment you on your insight.
Thanks for the “slow down” insult. Always good to be reminded that in the eyes of many here I am viewed as a rather dull juvenile. Well, that is the only type of person with whom I would use such a condescending tone. It will help to keep my bad habit of over-bold rebuking in check (for a little bit, heh).
You and I obviously were not meant to converse at length.
Wishing you well and leaving this topic alone, now,
Janice
Janice, please, I have no intention of initiating any conflict with a personage of your sincerity and intellect! My comments have obviously been interpreted otherwise. Please accept my apologies. I meant no disrespect.
I have probably been overly vague in my assertions relating to the process relating to President Nixon’s proposed impeachment. While the House Judiciary Committee recommended articles of impeachment to the full House of Representatives, the House never acted on that recommendation.
You are correct, in precise terms articles of impeachment are analogous to an indictment that initiates criminal prosecutions of private persons. And, in cases of impeachment involving the president, vice president, or other federal officers, the House of Representatives prepares the articles of impeachment, since it is endowed with the “sole Power of Impeachment,” under Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 of the Constitution. Those articles of impeachment are then sent to the Senate for adjudication.
Nixon resigned before the full House could vote to approve the articles of impeachment prepared by the Judiciary Committee. Therefore, no “indictment” occurred that the Senate could act upon.
Ford pardoned Nixon without an “indictment” pending.
Please excuse my ham handed attempts at clarity.
Dave Fair
The charges were never voted on. To compare with the civil process:
Charge brought = Charge given to grand jury
Impeachment = Grand Jury votes to indict
Senate Vote = Jury Trial verdict.
Nixon was not indicted, and no vote on impeachment was ever made.
LOL — HAD to return, Mr. Fair. Fun irony (see my response at 7:33pm just below yours of 7:28pm).
“Not everyone is old enough” (posted while I was typing my response just below at 7:33pm).
🙂
I forgive you.
Please forgive me — for misjudging you.
Janice
P.S. I was about 9 years old. It ruined the whole summer of television that year. THE YEAR WE GOT OUR FIRST COLOR TV. I liked Nixon. I wrote him a letter when I was 8 years old, however, because I wanted to be sure to tell him about Jesus. I had no idea what was going on with his life at that time…. in 1972…. . I thought I had read in Charles Colson’s book Born Again that Nixon was indicted. I need to read that book again! 🙂
Janice, Carter pardoned all the draft dodgers. Most of them were never charged.
Janice, there is no correlation between the House’s action on impeachment, which were never voted on by the full House, and a criminal indictment. The two are not the same concept at all. The actions that are specified in the articles of impeachment, don’t even have to be criminal in nature.
Articles of Impeachment also do not trigger the double indemnity clause.
That is a bad analogy. To be part of the pardon, you have to have been charged with the crime – https://www.justice.gov/pardon/vietnam-war-era-pardon-instructions
MarkW: “No correlation” is not the point. The point discussed above was based on an analogous relationship. Just as a Civil “Complaint” against someone is analogous to a Criminal “Charge.”
That the draft dodgers were “pardoned” is also analogous. Unlike you, I will not assert that your not-directly-on-point example had “no correlation.” It was a good analogy.
Yeah, I’ve been concerned about that as well.
If Hillary can get 38 electors to change their vote, she wins.
People are threatening the electors, and I haven’t seen Hillary condemn them for it.
I agree with you about timing. We could see a coup against the Electoral college to force enough Electors to change their votes to cause real chaos. I would have help d back on the high profile controversial nominations until after 19 December.
Our Founding Fathers Made Damn Sure That The Likes Of A Gore Or A Hillary Would Fail And They Did!
(y)
Ha ha
Explain Obama’s 2012 re-election then.
By November 2012, Obama was clearly a serial liar and a dictator-wannabe, and still enough stupid people voted for him. Did they feel sorry for him enough to give him a 2nd chance do-over? White guilt for slavery still?
Unfortunately the number of people who rely on government for their daily bread has grown to a near majority.
EPA was Obama’s attack dog. They were task with destroying as much U.S. Energy infrastructure as possible as a means of social change.
Karma!!!
If the EPA was Obama’s attack dog, then the IRS was his stealth fighter. Flying fast and quiet, using tax privacy laws to Avoid Congress detection to suppress conservative action groups from participating in campaigns.
If the EPA was Obama’s attack dog, then his Holder/Lynch DOJ was the corrupt cop allowing the Hillary Mafia to run its pay-to-play protection racket in plain sight.
If the EPA was Obama’s attack dog, then his Tom Perez-run Dept of Labor was his dirty accountant who was cooking the BLS monthly statistics on the US economy.
That’s true but consider that Pruitt’s modus appirndi will prevent him from responding in kind.
Tolitarianism has a tactical advantage shorter term. California will escape reform and the desease will go national again if the true swamp drain isn’t coordinated at many levels.
Operandi that is.
“Finally, we strongly encourage him to add a deputy administrator to his team who has significant EPA experience”
Craig Richardson and Chris Horner
I knew it would come to me. Who better to acquaint the new Administration with Richard Windsor’s work.
Perhaps also the EPA employee who issued a dissenter’s report about 5 years ago. His name sounded like Carlin.
This morning the BBC is openly describing Donald Trump as a “climate change denier”. Donald must be doing the right thing then.
Perhaps I should say This morning the BBC is openly describing Donald Trump as a “climate change d****r”. Donald must be doing the right thing then.
The NY Times’s “dissenter” is the mot juste.
I’m late here as usual. But I do feel as thrilled with the news as other commenters have clearly shown. And, to me, it certainly does feel that Christmas has come early.
One small point/question – maybe it’s because I’m British and don’t fully understand the politics in the US – but I thought I read not so long ago that Myron Ebell was going to be the head of the EPA? What did I miss, or get wrong? And, which of the two would be better?
You are almost correct, Luc. Myron Ebell (along with David Schnare and others https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/12/05/trumps-full-epa-transition-team-named/) will head Trump’s EPA transition team.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/science/myron-ebell-trump-epa.html )
And Merry Christmas! 🙂 (early) 🙂
The Trump transition team has a suggestion box. Please consider suggesting to them that President Trump needs to do Presedential sponsored policy debates on subjects like CAGW, and immigration.
Even suggest the participants, say Richard Lindzen, Christopher Monckton, and Craig Idso vs. Gavin Schmitt and two other sacrificial alarmists.
If they refuse to debate, just run an hour special. ( It would be very hard for them to refuse a national forum Presedential debate.)
Here’s the suggestion box’s URL: https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/
“The comments sound as if they had been prepared by a right-wing think tank,” said Molly Diggins, director of the Sierra Club’s North Carolina operations.
Hilarious that is coming from a LEFT organisation … no sense of self awareness!
mmmm, WordPress doesn’t like the syntax … try this, “LEFT”
ok what about this “LEFT”
or >Ctrl<LEFT
Resist we much. Lol
Let’s take green and climate change right out of this discussion for a moment…
Is it really a good idea to put somebody from an industry which stands to gain financially from a loosening on environmental regulations in charge of a regulating industry?
Coal, oil and natural gas do cause good old fashioned pollution – both when burned and during extraction.
Do you really want someone with an interest in fuel industry profits ruling on that?
“Coal, oil and natural gas do cause good old fashioned pollution ”
No they don’t
Modern coal gas, and oil cause very little pollution.
FAR LESS than the manufacture of wind turbines and solar cells.
We need someone with common sense… so that automatically rules out anyone support the renewable scam.
I don’t think manufacture of wind turbines or solar cells need do any damage to the environment.
Certainly they build both in Germany, with no environmental impact whatever, in a country with very strict environmental law.
what you are getting confused about is China making those items – but in China everything built is done with no regard to the environment.
“I don’t think manufacture of wind turbines or solar cells need do any damage to the environment.”
Really, Grifter?
Here’s me thinking you’re a big Guardian reader too.
Rare-earth mining in China comes at a heavy cost for local villages
Pollution is poisoning the farms and villages of the region that processes the precious minerals
And here’s the Daily Mail:
In China, the true cost of Britain’s clean, green wind power experiment: Pollution on a disastrous scale
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1350811/In-China-true-cost-Britains-clean-green-wind-power-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html#ixzz4SNtn6Obl
Then there’s the sulphur hexafluoride used in solar panel construction:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/green-tech/solar/solar-energy-isnt-always-as-green-as-you-think
How might it affect the environment?
Sulphur hexafluoride is not considered likely to harm the environment in the vicinity of its release. On a global scale however, it is a greenhouse gas contributing to global warming. It has an extremely high “global warming potential” (23,000 times that of carbon dioxide), but does not contribute particularly significantly to global warming because of the small amounts released. Sulphur hexafluoride can persist in the atmosphere for up to thousands of years.
http://apps.sepa.org.uk/spripa/Pages/SubstanceInformation.aspx?pid=10
You really haven’t a clue, have you?
This from the guy who has claimed that the air pollution problems in certain Chinese cities is proof that coal can’t be burned without polluting.
If you couldn’t have double standards, you would have no standards at all.
This could be a fair point if it wasn’t for the years of green blob bias in the other direction. This, squire, is what payback looks like and watching the blob explode is going to be priceless.
Agreed! It’s BETTER than we thought!
…years of green blob bias …
It’s a MOB and it’s not a hoax, it’s a scam.
Give it a rest, you aren’t convincing anybody.
Mr. Case — I think your use of “mob” is effective and more accurate than “blob,” given the known malfeasance and known funding corruption of the “blob.”
Al Gore gained from climate change alarmism.
Yes, he is going to uphold the law, not reward big green with even more money.
I wasn’t aware that Pruit was or had been employed by that industry. His previous job was as a State legislator.
He is Oklahoma Attorney General; one of the 13 state AGs who <a href="https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/06/17/ags-striking-back-at-exxonknew-and-rico20-say-we-can-come-after-climate-alarmists-for-fraud-too/"signed the letter criticising the Schneiderman group (“Attorneys General for a Clean Environment”) and their “Exxon Knew” investigation. Pruitt has not worked directly for oil/gas companies to my knowledge, but his job is to represent the state of Oklahoma, where the gas/oil industry is very important.
Yes, Griff! An “industry” that might object to wasting massive amounts of money (resources) conducting an EPA mandated dust-mote chase is actually exhibiting sanity and advocating for consumers. The EPA is regulating ozone down to 70 parts-per-billion and you are worried about “loosening” regulations? That is exactly what needs to happen. Oh yes, the “care” of the leftists…these are the people that borrowed and spent $10 trillion dollars over the last 8 years of Obama with absolutely nothing to show for it. “Oh, but watch out for ‘Big Oil’ and their 5% profit margins.” LOL, how out of touch can you be, Griff? The 2015 NAAQS: Ozone limit 0.070 parts per million (ppm) The new definition of insanity.
That may be so – but any relaxation of regulation benefits the fossil fuel industry and there are some regulations I am sure that both you and I would agree are necessary.
If we put the head of a major drug company in charge of whatever agency regulates drug safety in the US, would that be OK?
No, it does not “benefit” them, it imposes less!
“If we put the head of a major drug company in charge of whatever agency regulates drug safety in the US, would that be OK?”
As opposed to putting politicians such as “Lord” Deben, Ed Davey and Cameron whose father-in-law makes massive fortune with his windfarms in charge of the energy industry?
In any case, Trump has no connections to the energy industry, he is in construction.
So you’re making stuff up again to slur your betters, aren’t you?
“If we put the head of a major drug company in charge of whatever agency regulates drug safety in the US, would that be OK?”
Yes. They would know what the f**k they are talking about, unlike Democrat Party scumbags who know absolutely NOTHING about ANYTHING. Period. Full stop. America’s medical care system is in collapse because the Obarri Admin put stupid c**ts who know nothing about healthcare OR business in charge of both.
Sorry, catweazle, was trying to respond up thread, wordpress tends to make this difficult in long, convoluted comment threads.
Poor little Griffie, he actually believes he has skill at this analogy thingy.
1) The EPA regulates way, way, more than just oil wells.
2) Pruitt is was never the head of an oil company.
3) I would have no problem with a former head of a drug company running the FDA. Unlike you, I judge people on their character, not their associations.
Griff: the IPCC appointed a railway engineer as their figurehead. Need more be said?
Canada has a lawyer as Minister of Environment and Climate Change. She became an expert in one month.
A railway engineer, pronographer and s3x pest to be more specific.
1) Pruitt is a state DA, he never ran an oil company.
2) He has no interest in fuel industry profits. This would be true, even if he were a former head of an oil company.
3) The minor pollution from burning oil and coal was taken care of years ago.
4) The minor problems with extracting oil and coal were taken care of years ago.
5) Is there anything you know, that is actually true?
+1
Griffie gets his data from the MSM – the fake news sites.
“Is it really a good idea to put somebody from an industry which stands to gain financially”
Uh, Griff: Pruitt is not from any “industry”. He’s a public servant and the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the state of Oklahoma. His job is to protect his state and its residents, which includes protecting them from overreach by the federal government, and especially from a semi-autonomous unaccountable rogue agency like EPA. That his state and its residents’ interests may, to an extent, parallel the interests of the fossil fuel industry is what it is. What it ain’t is evil or even unethical.
Griff really does believe his lie that anyone who opposes his handlers schemes must be in the pay of big oil.
Uh, Yea!
Do you want a green in charge when nobody has proven that CO2 causes warming?
“Do you really want someone with an interest in fuel industry profits ruling on that?”
Why not?
He will be infinitely preferable to someone with an interest in “unreliables” industry – such as wind and solar – profits.
Further, he doesn’t believe in your discredited “Green” scam either.
So absolutely no contest.
Further to that, Trump isn’t a politician, thus untainted with the utter putrescence and corruption that the whole egregious breed – especially the Clintons and Kennedys – is steeped in.