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Green outrage is growing that Congress tweeted a link to an article by James Delingpole, which details how global average land temperature has just crashed by 1C (1.8F).
Bernie Sanders Slams Climate Denying House Tweet
Bernie Sanders sent a curt response to a climate change denying tweet from the House of Representatives Science Committee on Thursday.
The initial tweet, sent from an official government account, sends a clear message about how environmental policy will shift under a Republican Congress and a Donald Trump presidential administration.
It links to a climate change denying Breitbart News story that cited a misleading report in the UK tabloid the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail report claims, “Nasa featured a new study which said there was a hiatus in global warming before the recent El Niño.”
.@BreitbartNews: Global Temperatures Plunge. Icy Silence from Climate Alarmists https://t.co/uLUPW4o93V
— Sci, Space, & Tech GOP (@housesciencegop) December 1, 2016
Here’s how the Vermon senator responded.
Where'd you get your PhD? Trump University? https://t.co/P5Ez5fVEwD
— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) December 1, 2016
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Read more: http://www.attn.com/stories/13227/bernie-sanders-slams-climate-denying-house-tweet
Why are climate advocates so upset? The reason is they were expecting global temperatures to keep shooting up. Consider the following statement from Michael Mann, back in March.
Why is 2016 smashing heat records?
… according to Professor Michael Mann, the director of Penn State Earth System Science Centre. He said it was possible to look back over the temperature records and assess the impact of an El Niño on global temperatures.
“A number of folks have done this,” he said, “and come to the conclusion it was responsible for less than 0.1C of the anomalous warmth. In other words, we would have set an all-time global temperature record [in 2015] even without any help from El Niño.”
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As WUWT recently reported, James Delingpole’s claim is correct – the plunge in land temperatures over the last 6 months is the fastest drop on record.
The collapse in global temperature is a bitter disappointment to climate advocates like Bernie, who were apparently hoping that the recent El-nino driven spike in global temperature would be final vindication for all their climate scare stories.
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Griff says: “I am still waiting for a skeptic site to cover the arctic temp anomaly in the last month and/or the record sea ice low level as a main article, let alone offer an explanation from the skeptic viewpoint as to why this is occurring.”
Well, the Arctic always has unusual weather in that it is always much warmer or colder than normal because it is governed by the polar vortex and the extent to which Low and High pressures allow the warmer air from the mid-Latitudes in. Recently the warm air has been allowed in and the cold air has been set-up over Siberia.
There is not a person in Siberia who will say “global warming” out loud right now because they have suffered through temperatures about 20C below normal for two months now. They will get the snot beat out of them if they said global warming. Northern Europe periodically as well.
Right now, the Arctic is -30C. Some parts are above normal but most of it is below normal. Siberia is experiencing the dreaded -40Cs (where sh_t happens and cars don’t start and people get beat up for saying global warming etc).
It is coming over to the North American side in short order and the Arctic will be farking colder than it is right now, -30C or so being warmer than normal or something.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016120218/gfs_T2m_nhem_2.png
Thank you Bill for acknowledging that what is happening is ABNORMAL
Thank you Bill for the info.
I worked in Ft McMurray Alberta and we did see some -40 C weather. Today it is around freezing but is expected to drop about 20 degrees C next week. You are right, I had the company truck freeze up overnight and then overheat on the way to work. I think that was a -40C spell.
Link to weather at the Fort
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/alberta/fort-mcmurray
You would think the temperature drop would be great news for those concerned about global warming. Hmm, I wonder what they are really focused on instead?
Since the climatards got so bent out of shape over Delingpole’s little short-term temperature trend observation, it would be most amusing to see someone in Congress tweet out his we will bury you missive.
I’ve met Delingpole. He’s an A grade nutcase.
[I’ve met Delingpole too, and I think he’s a A grade satirist- Anthony]
“we would have set an all-time global temperature record [in 2015] even without any help from El Niño.” – Michael Mann
As usual, Mann is lying. Global temperature anomaly from UAH satellite:
http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0beta5.txt
1998 2015
0.48 0.29
0.65 0.19
0.47 0.17
0.74 0.08
0.64 0.27
0.57 0.31
0.51 0.15
0.52 0.24
0.44 0.23
0.40 0.41
0.12 0.33
0.25 0.45
1998 average = 0.4825
2015 average = 0.26
Right for the last three of 12 months is close enough for government work!
“As usual, Mann is lying.”
Switching to temperatures in the troposphere is a local way of twisting facts. Mann, like most of the world, refers to surface temperatures when speaking of global.
Nick I expect you’ve read Mann’s work. He’s a deceitful sack of horse pucky. No doubt about it.
Since this gained moderation, please change “you’re” to “you’ve”
Thanks.
“Mann, like most of the world, refers to surface temperatures when speaking of global.”
You mean the “massively altered” GISS surface temperatures? Data manipulation is a form of lying
“Between the years 2010 and 2012 the data measured since 1881 were altered so that they showed a significant warming, especially after 1950. […] A comparison of the data from 2010 with the data of 2012 shows that NASA-GISS had altered its own datasets so that especially after WWII a clear warming appears – although it never existed.” – Dr. Karl Ewert
http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-temperature-datasets-finds-they-have-been-massively-altered/#sthash.Qqhve9Y1.C14bpeCZ.dpbs
Lies, damn lies and statistics
Dr Schmidt told Senator Roberts in letters and emails obtained by Fairfax Media. “The claim that GISS has ‘removed the 1940s warmth’ in the Arctic is not correct.” From the Canberra Times
The Climategate scientists discussed their desire to get rid of the 1940s spike.
From: Tom Wigley
To: Phil Jones
Subject: 1940s
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:25:38 -0600
Cc: Ben Santer
It would be good to remove at least part of the 1940s blip, but we are still left with “why the blip”.
Dr. Strangelove on December 3, 2016 at 3:11 am; etc etc
You mean the “massively altered” GISS surface temperatures? Data manipulation is a form of lying
Dr Strangelove, you are all the time talking about “lies”.
My opinion is that such qualification would give a far better fit when applied to sites like “notricks(?)zone”, and thus, by extension, to you as a willing replicator of that site’s primitive manipulations.
Ewert’s superficial nonsense has been debunked here in Germany since longer time. But his thoroughly unscientific work will stay visible on the Internet for decades.
Here is a comment on the post you refer to, which perfectly reflects Ewert’s lack of technical knowledge:
Everybody has access to the NASA pages (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/history/ & ff) explaining in detail what has happened at transition time from GHCN V2 to GHCN V3.
Thanks for pointing out that NASA and NOAA share temperature data, and Hadley Center too. They are not independent, they are all unreliable as revealed in Climategate. That’s why warmists insist in using surface temperatures. See animation above posted by TA how NASA manipulated data. If you have questions for Dr. Ewert, contact him directly (see Notrickszone article)
Shouldn’t you be comparing 2015 with 1997? El Nino is a 2 year phenomenon, with the first year typically warming towards the end of the year (as in 1997 and 2015) and typically cooling from the Northern spring onwards (as in 1998 and 2016)
What pee’s me off is that the alarmist are up in arms over someone claiming that there is some cooling, while ignoring the numerous claims of warmest for the past year and half. Especially the severe weather claims. Why aren’t they questioning the nonsense of those claims? F’ing hypocrites and I’m getting fed up by it! We need to rise up and take a stand against this crap.
Let’s drag them all into the town square, tie them to a post, and burn them?
Selective Moral Outrage is the defining characteristic of a left-wing political movement. That is why this AGW has no credibility to any thinking person. “Facts” that support the case are celebrated, any disagreements are either ignored or attacked. This isn’t real “science” it is a political movement based upon poorly Cherry Picked data. If they truly wanted to find the truth they would incorporate data from both sides. They don’t, they simply try to silence critics. Real science doesn’t do that.
“Here’s how the Vermon senator responded.”
You spelled ‘venomous’ wrong.
Surely a change either way is climate change so how can they call it change denial unless they are admitting that they still think all change is global warming and have deceived us from the day they started using the term climate change instead of global warming?
I wish one of you ‘experts’ on here would comment on the above post by:
Michael D Nelson December 2, 2016 at 8:51 am.
Maybe Mr Nelson should be encouraged to submit his writings to Anthony for using as an essay, so that his findings could be properly reviewed/discussed?
“the plunge in land temperatures over the last 6 months is the fastest drop on record.”
And who gives a hoot? We don’t have any climate records. Remember? This is just more hysterical noise.
It is beyond belief that anybody and especially a scientist can attribute only 0.1C of the recent temperature spike to the recent El Niño, while in fact most of the spike can be directly attributed to the recent and long lasting high ENSO index.
You can learn more on what is going on with ENSO here http://www.coolingnews.com/the-cause-of-enso
How can temperatures plunge if they are still above average? It does sound misleading to be honest. Temperature now only such and such above normal may have been a more honest statement. But there we go, if you are going to rely on Briebart news, the Daily Mail and National enquirer for your news these problems are going to occur.
Temperature now is only such and such below normal Holocene Climate Optimum. The temperature plunge isn’t so bad to blame Brietbart
http://ice-age-ahead-iaa.ca/1/gisp2-ice-core-temperatures.jpg
How many times does that chart need to be debunked before folks here stop using it?
It says Alley’s GISP2 data series ends 95 years before present, ‘where present is 2000’. That would put the end of the series at 1905 – long before the onset of late 20th century warming.
But even this is wrong. Although Alley’s first paper was published in 2000, ‘present’ in the GISP2 data set means the conventional ‘present’ used in geology and palaeoclimate studies. It means 1950, not 2000. 95 years before 1950 is 1855 (actually, the data end in mid 1854).
Apart from that, the data are from a single location, in this case the top of an ice sheet in Greenland! Even if they stopped in 2015 they couldn’t reasonably be used to infer global temperatures.
“How many times does that chart need to be debunked before folks here stop using it?”
Its wrongness is even pointed out on the WUWT reference page:
How many times will warmists deny the Holocene Climate Optimum? It just breaks their heart that past climate was warmer than today. It’s not just Greenland, it’s global including the Pacific ocean, Antarctica and the Southern ocean. This is common knowledge but warmists are still in denial
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~blinsley/Dr._B._K_Linsley/Indonesia_&_Pacific_Intermediate_Water_files/Rosenthal.Linsley.Oppo%202013%20Pac.Ocean.Heat.pdf
“How many times will warmists deny the Holocene Climate Optimum?”
They don’t and it has a known cause …. look up Milankovitch cycles.
“How can temperatures plunge if they are still above average?”
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According to UAH, global temperatures in the lower troposphere in November 2016 ‘plunged’ to their warmest level for that month in the satellite record: http://www.drroyspencer.com/2016/12/uah-global-temperature-update-for-november-2016-0-45-deg-c/
Will David Rose and the Daily Mail please explain!
LAND temp 1C down. Global avg down a bit. Take a look at NH temp on the sea ice page and note the lobes of bitterly cold air down through both N. Am and Russia/ Asia. Return warm air from the Atlantic has warmed Svalbard east. It is 30C below in the center west
Gary Pearse
“LAND temp 1C down. Global avg down a bit.”
The land only component of UAH hasn’t even been published for November yet, so how can you know that it’s down 1C? As for the global average, this is UP a bit in November, not down (0.45 in Nov vrs 0.41 in Oct).
YEAR MO GLOBE NHEM. SHEM. TROPICS
2016 10 +0.41 +0.42 +0.39 +0.46
2016 11 +0.45 +0.41 +0.50 +0.37
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2016/12/uah-global-temperature-update-for-november-2016-0-45-deg-c/
Holocene Optimum was warmer than today
http://oi53.tinypic.com/sg2wav.jpg
Dr. Strangelove
That chart looks mighty familiar. Where have I seen it before? Looks very like the one produced for an article on GISP2 a few years back: http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/GISP210klarge.png
Funny how, in your version, the upper grey line is marked ‘1855’ yet the cross on the right, which is exactly where the year 1855 should be, is marked ‘2009’. Most odd.
Looking again at the incredibly similar chart I linked to, you can see that in fact the1855 line does terminate at the year 1855, as you would expect. The year 2009 is there too, but it is way, way higher than any other peak in that chart – up at a balmy -28C.
Don’t tell me someone has cut out the original 2009 mark and pasted it where 1855 was, but just wasn’t sharp enough to notice that this completely contradicts what the upper grey line is telling us. That would just be pitiful, wouldn’t it?
Dr. Strangelove on December 3, 2016 at 4:15 am / December 3, 2016 at 7:12 pm
Temperature now is only such and such below normal Holocene Climate Optimum.
Dr Strangelove seems to appreciate manipulations, as show the graphs (s)he publishes.
Such persons mostly you can’t convince – independently of the matter discussed, and independently of the position they choose to defend, sometimes even ad hominem if “necessary”.
Nevertheless, a hint on a paper presenting ideas counterbalancing an opinion based on ideology often is useful 🙂
https://www.blogs.uni-mainz.de/fb09climatology/files/2012/03/Pages_2013_NatureGeo.pdf
The paper’s abstract
« Past global climate changes had strong regional expression. To elucidate their spatio-temporal pattern, we reconstructed past temperatures for seven continental-scale regions during the past one to two millennia.
The most coherent feature in nearly all of the regional temperature reconstructions is a long-term cooling trend, which ended late in the nineteenth century. At multi-decadal to centennial scales, temperature variability shows distinctly different regional patterns, with more similarity within each hemisphere than between them.
There were no globally synchronous multi-decadal warm or cold intervals that define a worldwide Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age, but all reconstructions show generally cold conditions between ad 1580 and 1880, punctuated in some regions by warm decades during the eighteenth century.
The transition to these colder conditions occurred earlier in the Arctic, Europe and Asia than in North America or the Southern Hemisphere regions. Recent warming reversed the long-term cooling; during the period ad 1971–2000, the area-weighted average reconstructed temperature was higher than any other time in nearly 1,400 years. »
Funny that Bernie makes a crack about Trump university when his wife ran a diploma mill.
This chart from Climate4You explains the warming patterns far greater than CO2. H20 near the surface has increased due to a greening of the planet and more solar radiation reaching the earth. H20 has fallen at 9km, which would explain the lack of a “hot spot” and actual stratospheric cooling. Once again, if you simply break this problem down to the most significant variables, H20 being one of the most, it starts to make sense. Only when you try to blame CO2 do the arguments turn to nonsense.
http://www.climate4you.com/images/NOAA%20ESRL%20AtmospericSpecificHumidity%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1948%20With37monthRunningAverage.gif
You know those awesome pictures put out by C/AGW ? I’m sure you’ve seen them of a plant supposedly releasing co2. What they are showing is the other greenhouse gas in much greater amounts, water vapor. They’ve even showed, in error, cooling towers from nuclear power plants.
From that above chart, I think we can estimate the max temperature range for the earth. It would be about 28°C , which would occur is the earth was totally a rain forest.
http://image.slidesharecdn.com/climateintherainforest-100517033815-phpapp02/95/climate-in-the-rainforest-7-728.jpg
Looking at the geological record, the earth never gets above 22°C. That makes sense, even though CO2 has been as high as 7000ppm.
Once again, if you focus on H20, things start to make sense.
Hivemind: I like your chart. Even a warmer can understand it.
A focus on temperature spikes (either direction)that are obviously related to el ninos is data mining.
Data mining is an outrage.
Just looking at climate data from 1880 to 2015 is data mining too!
How can one look at 0.0001% of Earth’s climate history and have any idea of the long term trend or what kind of climate is normal, assuming “normal” could even exist on a planet not in thermodynamic equilibrium.
I wish there was some way to eliminate el nino and la nina effects from the average temperature data since they are obviously not CO2 related.
I suppose one could eliminate the grids in the Pacific Ocean where the el nino effect is strong and calculate a global average excluding those areas.
But I see several problems with that:
– I’m not convinced a one0number global average temperature represents “the climate”., and
– “Adjusting” data again, that has already been “over-adjusted” by goobermint bureaucrats, is not real science.
Richard Greene on December 3, 2016 at 1:18 pm
I wish there was some way to eliminate el nino and la nina effects from the average temperature data since they are obviously not CO2 related…
1. Your idea of calculating temperature anomalies excluding the ENSO kernel area unluckily has few sense, as ENSO modifies the anomalies in areas very far away from its own backyard.
More surprising to me: as I extracted an UAH time series restricted to the Nino3.4 area, it showed less harsh peaks for 1982/83, 1997/98 and 2015/16 than was visible for the UAH time series concerning the Tropics or even the Globe. A kind of “Not in my backyard!” 🙂
2. Though subject to (sometimes very unqualified) critique, I propose that you read
https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/89054
where the authors extracted out a temperature series (RSS3.3 TLT) not only ENSO signals but also volcanic activities (a similar exercise was made by Grant Foster and Stefan Rahmstorf in 2011).
Santer, Bonfils & alii computed in 2014 a residual warming of about 0.85 °C / century for the satellite era (the original RSS trend for 1979-2013 was 0.125 °C / decade).
Now, what this residual was originating from, wether or not CO2 based: no idea, it’s a boring, actually fruitless discussion.
Convert Vermon to “Vermin” and you have Burning Bernie’s middle name !
But the good news is (The absolute “worst” news (Thing) to/for virtually anyone/everyone else?) for Burning Bernie is that soon Old-Man-Nut-Job will soon have all of the Global Warming he could ever imagin !!
Up to the Top of his balding Head a “pit” is waiting for him come last breath day (Which fortunately is not far off!) completely filled with Warming (Make that Scalding) and Burning Bernie will have eternity to enjoy (Suffer) it !!!
And not only was it prepared solely (Soul-ly) for Burning but at the top of his pit (Cage) his name is written saying, “Here burns Burning Bernie, a renown wannabe Climate Scientist (And Senator ???) who “lies” every chance He gets” !
So every time you see Burning, refer to him as “Mr. Burning” reminding him of his desolate future !
LieOn Burning Bernie
Why is it that whenever I see a picture of Bernie Sanders I think he should be wearing a propeller beanie cap? — Eugene WR Gallun
Maybe this is why:
That looks like strip mining and clear cutting all in one. What ethanol is doing to the rain forest is even worse. Where is Daryl Hanna and Jim Hansen when we need them?
The Clean Energy Scam
Ethanol increases global warming, destroys forests and inflates food prices. So why are we subsidizing it?
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725975,00.html
I guess that if Bernie Sanders said it, it must be correct????????
Maybe the Millennials will get it. Forget the rest of the demographics Vermont.
Simply do the math, the Δ°C/ΔW/M^2 is highly variable for ΔCO2. The added energy attributed to ΔCO2 can result in warming, cooling and stagnation of temperatures. Above 400ppm additional CO2 does very very very little to alter the energy balance.
Where did you get your journalism schooling?? Trump University?