Guest essay by Eric Worrall
TV Cosmologist, Astrophysicist and climate advocate Neil deGrasse Tyson wants to “grab Trump by the Crotch” when he meets the President-elect to talk about science, to get his attention.
Neil deGrasse Tyson: I’ll grab Trump by the crotch when I meet him
Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson says he wants to use an unusual greeting when he meets President-elect Donald Trump.
“When I meet President Trump, I may first grab his crotch — to get his attention — then discuss Science with him,” Tyson tweeted Friday afternoon.
When I meet President Trump, I may first grab his crotch — to get his attention — then discuss Science with him.
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) November 18, 2016
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Sadly Tyson seems to have chickened out and deleted the original crotch grab tweet. Rather a shame really – Trump seems to like people who have the character to stand by what they believe. Having said that, I strongly suspect if and when President-elect Trump meets Tyson, Trump would prefer a traditional handshake rather than a crotch grab.
The following is a video of Tyson explaining why he thinks electing climate “deniers” represents the downfall of democracy.
Tyson probably didn’t pay attention, or maybe he heard a corrupted version from JournoLists, but without Trump’s consent it would be considered assault.
I can not find this statement on twitter. So, is it real or has it been deleted. If you’re going to post stories like this you need to at least have a screen shot. (The internet is full of stories that are not true, partially true, half true, mostly true and completely true ….. always verify).
Has the original post been edited, or did you miss this bit?
“Sadly Tyson seems to have chickened out and deleted the original crotch grab tweet”
Apparently this is the link to the deleted tweet: https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/799682831823859712
Does Twitter not report “this once existed, but has since been deleted”?
Same link on several different reports, I’m assuming since the link doesn’t work anymore that means the tweet was deleted.
Remember David ” I would be ok if Trump was shot.”
He learned quickly after David Bellamy was pissed off from the B.B.C. (taxpayer money)
that propaganda matters not science.
He should wait until after Trump take office. I want to see the Secret Service response when he lays his hands on the president.
Trump has had Secret Service protection since last March. Now that he is Pres-elect, his security detail is almost the same as Obama’s.
Non-president specific comment:
I would think the president elect would need a bigger security detail. The current president has the advantage of the White House with it’s built in security features.
You say he thinks it represents the downfall of democracy. He actually says “the end of an informed democracy”. Why mislead your readers (90% of whom won’t watch the video and walk off with the impression you’ve just given them) instead of quoting what he actually said? We can then decide for ourselves what a berk he is. We don’t need your help to shoo us in that direction.
The downfall of democracy means tyranny, anarchy or all-out war. An uninformed democracy just means idiots electing more idiots to do their
bidding. Hardly the same thing, even if there’s a chance the consequences will cause great harm. One is guaranteed mayhem and misery; the other is just mighty inconvenience but nowhere near as bad. He’s being alarmist enough without you putting words in his mouth.
Just because I don’t agree with NDT and have no time for him or global warming doesn’t mean I should sit here and lap up spin on WUWT. I’ve picked you up on it before and I’ll do it again. You simply can’t play the spin game like they do.
When is democracy NOT a sugar coated form of tyranny? Maybe, when relevant issues are honestly debated?
How do we determine what is relevant?
How do we determine what is an honest debate?
How can an uninformed democracy NOT be the downfall of democracy?
“An uninformed democracy just means idiots electing more idiots to do their
bidding.”
You mean like the idiots who electied Obama – TWICE – and tried to elect Hillary?
Isn’t Neil deGrasse Tyson the guy who insists Pluto isn’t a planet because it’s a dwarf planet? Not very sensitive to the feelings of dwarfs.
Is a red light not a light? Is a small dog not a dog?
Then how can a dwarf planet not be a planet?
This is one of the things that infuriates me (in a casual way) about the IAU’s language in this matter. The idea that there might be “too many planets out there for school children to memorize” if they didn’t do something seems to me to be a poor excuse to implement such a poor definition.
Never wrestle with a wrestler. Never box with a boxer.
Trying to take on The Donald using his own techniques is beyond stupid.
I think his Secret Service protection detail would body slam NdGT to the floor and pile on him and put a nasty chokehold on him.
I suspect he’ll get a Secret Service call now though warning him to calm his language.
He’s black.. he is allowed to assault white people. !
Let’s not go there.
If I ever met Donald Trump, I would shake his hand and congratulate him.
I don’t feel I would know him well enough to start grabbing his crotch.
Its seems N. Tyson has a man-crush going on.
the male on male gets double travel air miles
They used to say everyone talks about the weather but no one does anything about it.
Because of course they could do nothing. What ever happened to weather? It seems to
have been consigned to the taboo bin replaced by climate which we now think we can
do something about.
LOL – you need to keep up. ‘Weather’ is what it is whenever it gets cooler when it is supposed to be warmer, or when the extra and extra violent storms don’t happen. (4000+ days since high level (Cat 3 or above) hurricane made USA landfall anyone? 😀 )
Climate is whenever it’s a warm day, a king tide occurs, there’s heavy rain, heavy snow, no rain, no snow, or when summer starts the ice melting, or a new computer model promises we’re all doomed in 2020, 5 years, 2030, 2040, 2100, 2150 etc.
Gut response
https://youtu.be/xCc-RWIp7XU
Isn’t this a photo of John Kerry?
My only comment to John Kerry.
I just realized he is the guy on TV that “explains” the “cosmos” to little kids. He should stick with that, as long as he doesn’t screw that up for kids as well. We turn the channel whenever he “pollutes” the airwaves. ( Neil? Have you ever figured out how much C02 pollution the production your TV program generates btw? you know, the lights, the studio, the make-up etc for every single person that is involved?)
He’s not very good at Cosmology either. Plus he spends significant amounts of show time talking AGW as well.
Him and Brian Cox added together would almost equal a high school graduate in Science.
Tyson reminds me of what someone once said about the book “The DaVinci Code”. When you finish reading it, you are dumber than when you started.
I loved his moronic defense of “climate change,” stating that scientists have been talking about it for decades! And what do they have to show for it, besides billions of misappropriated dollars? What an ignoramus.
I’m really surprised Anthony is allowing Eric to drag this thing to such pathetic depths.
Lets talk about anything except this:
Any explanations?
El Nino-released heat content being released by ice-free water into the dark, Arctic skies.
IOW, Feedback operating as it has for countless eons.
We had an exceptionally nice November until yesterday. If that is how we do it. i hope we do it again.
Except this year is different.
1 yr < 39 yrs <<< 1 eon.
Maybe you should change your bed sheets?
P.S. Been reading my latest hardcopy Science magazine this weekend. I find it fascinating that Erik the Red could found colonies in Greenland in the 10th Century AD. Those colonies lasted for almost 350 yrs before they were frozen-out, starved, and cut off from Iceland and European ships by growing sea ice in the early 1400's.
How could West Greenland colonies have flourished in 1100 AD on land that for the last 500 years has been ic bound? Only to today have the remnants of those colonies being uncovered by thawing permafrost? (Much to those bedwetting archaelogists' lament that these now thawing Norse midens are now decaying.)
tony mcleod November 20, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Except this year is different.
Possibly now look again at your little graph and check out weather conditions world wide down to 30 Latitude.
It has been a early winter everywhere.
This happens with a large El Nino. you know that.
Now there have been reports that the ahem, “Polar Vortex has slipped it’s leash again. If it has moved farther south and stays there it is going to be a nasty winter. With both the AMO and El Nina flipping at the same time things could get interesting.
I don’t think your graph means there is going to be an early spring.
michael
Walter,
Tony would prefer you have a skyhigh heating bill, b/c as Obama said in 2007, his policies are designed to make electricity prices skyrocket. Elite libs don’t have to feel the consequences of their policies, only middle and lower income classes feel the effects of those policies, is basically the learning point.
It has been a early winter everywhere.
Mike, it’s been brutal in central Asia and Siberia and was you say the PV seems to have slipped it’s leash. But none of that makes the sea ice extent any less anomalous. Sea ice was pretty close to average for several years after the ’98 Nino.
We’re all gonna die!
Any explanations? The sun is out.
Doesn’t really explain much, does it TCE? The sun has been “out” since 1978. Anything else you can think of?
“The sun has been “out” since 1978”
That is a manifest LIE… and you KNOW IT !!
While cycle 19 was the highest in 600 or more years, cycles 21, and 22 were 2nd and 3rd highest I 600 years
Its like turning an amplifier down from 11 to 10. !!
What is your explanation for the glaring anomaly on that graph Andy?
You mean the WEATHER EVENT that has trapped the heat in the Arctic and sent the cold to northern Russia.
Look at the WHOLE globe instead of cherry-picking the Arctic anomaly, then you might have at least idea about reality.
Note, that if you average them out, the world is cooling. The HUGE drop in the last 8 months in RSS shows that to be the case. Largest, steepest drop in the whole satellite record.
I’m pretty sure it means “less sea ice”.
Explanations?
Even the NSIDC experts admit they don’t have an explanation.
“At NSIDC, we generally frown on the practice of looking at the global sea ice extent,” said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center, “the reason being that ice in the two hemispheres tends to behave rather differently; while Arctic extent shows clear downward trends in all months, the pattern for the Antarctic has been much more complex.” Serreze and several other ice experts I contacted agreed that there was no obvious explanation for why sea ice extent would suddenly dip in unison in both the Arctic and Antarctic when the two processes are typically so uncorrelated. Previous record-warm years didn’t behave this way. Could some previously dormant or absent connection be popping up just now? If so, it’s not an obvious one. NSIDC’s Ted Scambos: “I’d say that to link the two poles with a single causality chain at the seasonal/annual level is probably about a decade of research in the future.” (Bob Henson-Wunderblog)
And really, NDT is the one who took this the whole crotch grabbing the President to pathetic depths. Eric just pointed it out. If you don’t like what is posted here, don’t come here and read it.
i used to have a sweater knitted from yarn similar to that
I bet it came unraveled easily….pa dum dum CHING! 🙂
It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature. The decline was in anticipation of Billary being elected. Look for a sharp uptick soon. Meanwhile, if subjugation to Trump is inevitable, you might as well relax and enjoy it. 😉
Here Tony….
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/arctic.sea.ice.interactive.html
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/antarctic.sea.ice.interactive.html
Oops..my bad….forgot about the problems with that source…please ignore…
Try this Ben:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
Find the ‘shohttp://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/ all’ button. Then same for the Antactic.
The chart I posted is the sum of the two.
That should read:
Find the ‘show all’ button. Then same for the Antarctic.
The chart I posted is the sum of the two.
tony STILL doesn’t know that for the first 3/4 of the Holocene, Arctic sea ice was often zero or near zero in summer. If it drops a bit further , all it is is a RECOVERY to the levels of the LIA and before.
Ignorance ==> brain-washed PANIC, from a poor little ignorant puppy.
Thank you Tony…
look at the north pacific? a huge zone cooled by 4-6 degrees in 2 months time….
Nope. That was what I thought too, it does seem to be quite a departure. The graph is based on easily verifiable NSIDC data corroborated by Japan’s Aerospace Exploration Agency, which also tracks polar ice.
Instrument malfunction? Someone compare with a picture from last year?
No malfunction Ed. More like a tipping point.
Show me that tipping point next March and I might give it more credence. As Mr. Bastardi puts it, the waiting (and the weighting) is the hardest part.
No malfunction Ed. More like a tipping point.
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LOL…..
Spare a thought for all the snow and cold around the rest of the world.
https://iceagenow.info/
Well,Tony, if it was my division responsible for this I’d want to know a few things too. Like, what happened in Sept? Has something happened to the measuring equipment? It certainly looks that way in mid-November. As the measurement is so far from the norm I would start to suspect an error in the means of measurement….satellite failure, for instance?
PS: Paul Homewood explains it so much better.
Of if it were merely an equipment error Harry. But it aint.
Tony: How do you KNOW it’s not an equipment malfunction? Do you have details?
No Harry I don’t “know” it. But I have no reason to think it’s a malfunction. I’ve been tracking the ice here http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
for months. The data here https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent corroborates it. You can eyeball it on the sat pics of the last few weeks. https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1759.0;attach=38519;image
Or look at this circumstantial evidence from Danish Met Institute: http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh197/ktonine/FDDs_11_20_2016.jpg
Ice-free poles on Earth are not rare but changes this rapid certainly are.
Perhaps the earth has started to resume its warming after the LIA.
Perhaps we have entered another dust cloud.
Perhaps there is a virus in the algorithms.
Perhaps there are two different errors in the Data.
Perhaps someone tried to homogenise data but omitted to log the fact.
Perhaps the data is correct and we need a new verifiable testable hypothesis to explain climate,
with clear predictive character which may be tested in human lifetime frames.
tony mcleod: “Any explanations?”
Yeah.
It’s called “WEATHER”
Google it.
This looks nothing like DMI or Jaxa. I’m no expert on this, but could this be an operational problem?
Compare these three images.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.color.000.png
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ARCHIVE/20151121.jpg
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ARCHIVE/20141124.jpg
Am I wrong in observing that the Nov 20 2016 ice is way more extent than in both the Nov 24 2014 image. and the Nov 21 2015 image? That’s not what the arctic ice plot tells us. (The current image has no snow added).
Is the cryosphere website fubar?
” Neil deGrasse Tyson wants to “grab Trump by the Crotch””
I would wager that the Secret Service would look askance at that.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an affirmative action scientists and it shows.
Tyson is crotch-grabbingly dumb.
Methinks Neil is too far past his teen tendencies ?
Very professional Neil. Do you really think that you can command respect with such gutter language? I’m sure that Carl (a real gentleman) would be ashamed to call you his protege.
It would seem that our pal Niel prefers total corruption to at least some degree of honesty.
Perhaps some of Niel’s income is in jeopardy.
Maybe Tyson should get a job with the TSA.
My guess is that this dumas was immediately informed by legal Eagles he knows that such a tweet, one that indicates a desire to assault a President of the United States, would not be seen kindly by the Secret Service. I would not be surprised if they actually contacted him as well. What a blowhard. People like this have no class, ethucs, nor morals.
LMAO – I notice NDT doesn’t say WHO he is going to get to talk the Science. After all, NDT is so bad at Science he thinks computer models are data instead of just tools.
Then again, maybe NDT is trying to promote himself and other tools into the new world he sees coming?
But at a guess, grabbing Trump’s balls would probably bring a right cross as an instant reaction. 😀
NDT is just looking to keep himself relevant. Like the other AGW losers.
One wonders if Neil knows what bathroom he is told to use. Just sayin…….
He and Nye can grab each others.