Gavin Schmidt Warns Donald Trump Not to Interfere with the NASA Climate Division

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Gavin Schmidt, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, has “warned” President-elect Donald Trump not to interfere with their climate activities. Schmidt maintains the GISS global temperature series, arguably the most adjusted of all the global temperature products.

‘Global warming doesn’t care about the election’: Nasa scientist warns Donald Trump over interference

Senior Nasa scientist suggests he could resign if Donald Trump tries to skew climate change research results.

A senior Nasa scientist has told Donald Trump he is wrong if he thinks climate change is not happening and warned the President-elect that government scientists are “not going to stand” for any interference with their work.

Mr Trump has described global warming as a “hoax” perpetrated by China, vowed to unratify the landmark Paris Agreement and appointed a renowned climate-change denier to a senior environmental position in his transition team.

The science community and environmental campaigners in the US have already begun efforts to persuade Mr Trump that climate change is actually real before he takes office next year.

Dr Gavin Schmidt, the director of Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, signalled they would have allies among the federal science agencies.

In an interview with The Independent, Dr Schmidt, who was born in London, said: “The point is simple: the climate is changing and you can try to deny it, you can appoint people who don’t care about it into positions of power, but regardless nature has the last vote on this.

Asked if he would resign if the Trump administration adopted the most extreme form of climate change denial, Dr Schmidt said this was “an interesting question”. It would not cause him to quit “in and of itself”, he said.

“Government science and things generally go on regardless of the political views of the people at the top,” Dr Schmidt said. “The issue would be if you were being asked to skew your results in any way or asked not to talk about your results. Those would be much more serious issues.”

But he added: “Trump is obviously unique. It’s not just the same as Bush again.”

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nasa-global-warming-climate-change-denial-donald-trump-interference-science-a7421416.html

President-elect Donald Trump has already stated that he intends to refocus NASA on its original mission of space exploration.

“I will free NASA from the restriction of serving primarily as a logistics agency for low Earth orbit activity… Instead we will refocus its mission on space exploration.”

Read more: http://www.inquisitr.com/3710152/forget-mars-trump-wants-nasa-to-visit-jupiters-moon-europa-and-explore-the-solar-system/

The needless duplication of climate work between multiple federal agencies has been noted before – in 2015, Lamar Smith (R-Texas), Chairman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, introduced a bill calling on NASA to spend more of their time and effort exploring space.

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Jeff (a different one)
November 17, 2016 3:45 pm

I suppose civil service rules make it almost impossible to fire Schmidt, but surely there’s a weather station in Alaska that needs a new attendant.

MikeN
November 17, 2016 3:47 pm

Don’t these guys know not to get into a fight with him? If he notices, he is more likely to cut the funds.

Chimp
November 17, 2016 4:53 pm

Gavin and his cronies in crime should not just be fired with cause, but join the Clintons in orange jump suits at Club Fed.

November 17, 2016 6:53 pm

It’s manipulations again, folks, he’s getting it into the minds of the true believers that that skewing of results might actually be intended. That way, when the fr@ud is uncovered, he was wave his little hands in the air and cry out, “See what he did?!”
He’s making ready to cover his rear-end, that’s all, passing all blame for all wrong-doing over to evil deplorables.
Either that or he’s trying to scope out what is intended so he can decide if he can carry on manipulating as is, or whether it’d be better to make for the airport before January.

November 17, 2016 6:58 pm

Perhaps the 90% or so of GISS that contribute no significant value will be eliminated.

Brooks Hurd
November 17, 2016 8:55 pm

Gavin actually called what he does “government science”. As we have seen Gavin’s “government science” has little to do with real science. I would really like to see NASA focused once again on exploring space, not creating trends that do not exist in the data.

November 17, 2016 10:02 pm

Mr. Schmidt, I want to thank you for bringing your important role to my attention. Unfortunately, your job falls outside of NASA’s primary mission, space exploration. Please make plans for an exciting new position more appropriate for a person of your abilities and temperament. You may send your resume to the soon to be formed government funded reality TV show, Overpaid Propagandists Posing as Government Scientists.

Amber
November 17, 2016 10:44 pm

The Deplorables have spoken . It must be terribly upsetting to see your whole world crumble .
Imagine your company just got taken over and a top executive goes to the media and says the new owners better not mess with his department. He wouldn’t have to worry about his department much longer is a safe bet . .
Everyone knows climate changes and we can be happy the long term warming trend continues . There is no need to spend $$ Billions telling us what every Grade 3 grad knows . Climate science is not settled and until the elephant in the room , natural climate variables are better understood scary pronouncements about a trace gas , CO2 , are highly speculative .
Sure hope all that bullet proof adjusted scientific data doesn’t disappear in the next two months , tax payers own it and have every right to a second or third opinion if Congress wants it .
Look what happened to the CRU’s data once Climate gate showed up ? Gone . IS that real science at work ?
What happens when the protective cover of the White House disappears ? Elected officials messing with the science will be the least of NASA’s concerns . There is a lot of explaining to do and it would make no sense to fire the people who have created the data while the investigation continues .
After all $Trillions of tax payer money has been spent on the basis of climate models with doom and gloom “record” temperature claims used in scary global warming propaganda . The public has a right to the heaviest most detailed audit possible without even a whimper . Get that before anyone leaves the country to spend more time with their family .

Rob
November 17, 2016 10:51 pm

Warns???( Oh, I’m going to love these years).
NASA GISS is the most unless, adjusted, “fudged” temperature series in the world.
It’s worse than NOAA’s manipulated garbage!

Amber
November 17, 2016 11:36 pm

If there are ANY climate model makers left at NASA there are almost no weather stations in Antarctica .
Considering it is a chunk of ice bigger than the USA and Mexico combined any remaining NASA climate
scientists should be moved there to get up front and personal with – 40 F . You know study the impact to penguins of the – 40 to -38 degree F warming . Drowning penguins perhaps ?
Taunting Congress and the next President to get fired , how convenient . Clearly there is a misunderstanding of who is paying salaries here . No where to run no where to hide .

Just some guy
November 18, 2016 1:18 am

Gavin should be in prison for scientific fraud. Maybe he can share a cell with Hillary.

Marcus
November 18, 2016 8:12 am

President Trump will have no problem firing Schmidt, Directors at NASA have been fired before…They are political appointees, and have no protection from the next president…
http://nasawatch.com/archives/2014/06/nasa-smd-heliop.html

JasG
November 18, 2016 9:21 am

Actually you can sample everywhere Nick S. Via the satellites..

Chimp
November 18, 2016 3:22 pm

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Begin constructing the wall along the Southern border.
Highly important
Somewhat important
Not important
No opinion
Repeal and replace ObamaCare.
Appoint a strong constitutionalist to the Supreme Court in the mold of the late Justice Antonin Scalia.
Sign into law the Senate’s existing bill to build the Keystone Pipeline.
Introduce an infrastructure package to modernize our country.
Unleash the Middle Class Tax Relief and Simplification Act, which will cut taxes for middle-class families and simplify the tax brackets in order to streamline the process.
Announce our official withdrawal from the TPP.
Renegotiate NAFTA into terms that protect the American worker.
Propose a constitutional amendment to impose terms limits on all members of Congress.
10. Lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars worth of American energy, including shale, oil, natural gas, and clean coal.
11. Cancel billions of dollars in payments to U.N. climate change programs, and use that money to fix our own country.
Allow Americans to deduct childcare and eldercare from their taxes.
End all federal funding to sanctuary cities that circumvent the law in order to provide protection to illegal immigrants.
Begin removing the more than two million criminal illegal immigrants.
Suspend immigration from regions compromised by terrorism and where vetting cannot safely occur.
Introduce plan to defeat ISIS.
Set the standard for an “America First” foreign policy that ends regime-change, nation-building, and instead focuses on a motto of peace through strength.
18. End bans on offshore drilling in order to end our dependence on Middle East oil and make America energy independent.
Cut the government regulations that lead businesses to leave our country in the first place.
Enact a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.
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Pass the Restoring Community Safety Act in order to reduce crime, drugs, and violence in our cities, and provide funding for programs that train and assist local police.
End Common Core and bring education supervision to local communities.
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Let veterans receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice.
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Pass the Clean Up Corruption in Washington Act in order to “drain the swamp” that has polluted our capital for decades.
Cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum, and order issued by Obama.
Highly important
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No opinion

willhaas
November 18, 2016 3:33 pm

Rather than mess with it, the division should be eliminated altogether. After all, the science is settled so there is nothing new that can be learned about it. The federal government is alreasy deep in debt with huge annual deficits. The federal governemtn needs to cut spending where ever it can. Considering the current adminiatration, the President is years late with the budget cuts that were suppose to go along with the tax hike on the rich and the ACA taxes as part of the President’s balanced approach to deficit reduction. Such useless organizations should have already been eliminated.

Chimp
Reply to  willhaas
November 18, 2016 3:46 pm

And if he can’t be fired for cause, then reassign Gavin to collect data for polar bear and sea ice computer models in the high Arctic, especially in winter. The necessary work could take years. Even decades.
Or temperature readings and modeling as permanent computer gamer in residence at the South Pole.

co2islife
November 19, 2016 5:04 am

“The true story is that the troposphere warms more or less as expected by the model average, whereas the stratosphere cool much faster.”

1) The CO2 concentration in the stratosphere is the same as the troposphere.
2) The stratosphere is void of H2O, the major GHG
How could an increase in CO2 possibly lead to a cooling of the stratosphere? If CO2 was the cause, you would expect a warming of the stratosphere through a shifting down of the temperature gradient. CO2 according to MODTRAN has no impact on the energy balance in the lower 3km due to H2O overwhelming the system. Only as H2O drops out of the atmosphere does CO2 demonstrate an impact on temperature. CO provides a floor for temperature, it doesn’t appear to lead to warming. 13 to 18µ IR is consistent with a black body of -80°C.

Reply to  co2islife
November 19, 2016 6:02 am

CO2 according to MODTRAN has no impact on the energy balance in the lower 3km due to H2O overwhelming the system. Only as H2O drops out of the atmosphere does CO2 demonstrate an impact on temperature. CO provides a floor for temperature, it doesn’t appear to lead to warming. 13 to 18µ IR is consistent with a black body of -80°C.

You can see that cooling at night is nonlinear, and it’s somehow related to water vapor being converted to water. But is you watch the cooling rate when rel humidity goes up, cooling slows.
And I wonder is anyone runs MODTRAN with a changing water vapor profile, cause as it cools, rel humidity changes!

co2islife
Reply to  micro6500
November 19, 2016 8:02 am

You can see that cooling at night is nonlinear, and it’s somehow related to water vapor being converted to water. But is you watch the cooling rate when rel humidity goes up, cooling slows.

I’m pretty sure that as H2O precipitates out, temperatures will cool more rapidly.
1) Concentration is an exothermic process, so it released heat in the upper atmosphere as it condenses. Once it releases that heat, it is gone.
2) A comparison to the cooling at night in a rain forest vs a desert at the same latitude pretty much proves CO2 doesn’t trap much heat Sleep naked in a desert and you freeze to death, sleep naked in a rain forest and you are very comfortable.

Reply to  co2islife
November 19, 2016 8:17 am

But it doesn’t at night unless the air is already dry.

co2islife
Reply to  micro6500
November 19, 2016 8:57 am

But it doesn’t at night unless the air is already dry.

What are you saying? That the air doesn’t cool rapidly as the H2O condenses out, and then level off? Condensation is a rather rapid exothermic process. There is no phase change related to CO2.

co2islife
November 19, 2016 5:10 am

Congress needs to form an independent oversight and review body to analyze scientific findings by tax- payer funded entities. A double-blind analysis of this data would expose the fraud. No real scientist would accept “tricks” intended to “hide the decline.” The other way to address this would be to have an “Open Source” temperature reconstruction like “Linux” and “Bitcoin” where all information is made public, and a panel selects the best code/date for the final version. There is complete transparency. Right now you have a small group of biased, corrupt, dishonest and deceitful people controlling the entire process. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

co2islife
November 19, 2016 5:16 am

William Astley,
After Spencer and Christy’s infamous “Cadillac calibration”-cherrypick, when merging the MSU and AMSU instruments, UAH v6 TLT suffer from a significant divergence from real thermometers carried aloft by balloons.

This makes my case for an “Open Source” Temperature Reconstruction. The one-side points the finger at the other-side, and the other side points the finger right back. That is the old Saul Alynski trick of blaming the other of what you are guilty. Only one side is telling the truth, so the deceitful side has no option but to blame the other for their crime. Criminals do that in trials all the time. The political left writes books about this tactic. Anyway, sunlight is the best disinfectant. Transparency will bring all this global nonsense to an end. As long as we allow it to degenerate into he said she said arguments, the truth will never be known. Only transparency will expose the truth.

Reply to  co2islife
November 19, 2016 9:20 am

This makes my case for an “Open Source”

All my stuff (well what’s finished) is on sourceforge
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gsod-rpts/

co2islife
November 19, 2016 5:26 am

The RAW temperature data should be published. Public comments should be accepted on how and why the data should be “adjusted.” If there is agreement and a well-documented reason for adjusting the data, then the adjustment is made to the open source data reconstruction. That way everyone can know what the real data is, what the adjusted data is, and the reasons the data was adjusted. Once again, transparency is the greatest weapon against this global warming nonsense. No open source group, exposed to public scrutiny, would ever pass “tricks” to “hide the decline.” That only happens behind closed doors among a group of like-minded dishonest and deceitful activists. We need a “Sunlight Law” like the activists are demanding for Exxon Mobile.
[the RAW data IS published by NOAA, publicly available via FTP -mod]

co2islife
Reply to  co2islife
November 19, 2016 9:04 am

[the RAW data IS published by NOAA, publicly available via FTP -mod]

That is true, but public policy is based upon the “adjusted” data. Was there ever any public testimony as to the construction of the “Hockeystick?” Single individuals are allowed to “adjust” the data as they themselves seem fit. Michael Mann created an entire reconstruction effectively by himself that single-handedly repealed all data reconstructions before it. How is this possible in any real “science.”comment image?w=420

Reply to  co2islife
November 19, 2016 9:23 am

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/
I use
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/gsod
it’s all here. Now my data is QA’d, I think mostly clerical errors, but I’m not 100% sure.

co2islife
November 19, 2016 5:40 am

Take a look at this chart. One thing people are missing is that the first IPCC Meeting was in 1990. I assume that the chart before 1990 was based on actual data, and then post 1990 are forecasts. If these models come from the 1995 IPCC meeting, there is clear fraud. Look how the data is curvilinear up to 1995, and does a good job modeling the temperature. The R^2 looks to be above 70 for the early period of this chart. After 1998, however, there is a complete meltdown, and the chart goes from curvilinear to near linear, and the R^2 drops to near 0. Just from an eyeball observation, those IPCC models are a joke. They have and model curvilinear data, and then transition it to a linear model. That makes no sense what so ever unless you are trying to produce a result that isn’t supported by the data. That divergence is also why the data has to be “adjusted” upward to make the models appear valid. This is clearly an example of Orwellian forces at work.comment image

co2islife
November 19, 2016 9:17 am

Once again, look at this chart. The “Forecasts” are linear, the actual modeling is curvilinear. why would any forecast model take curvilinear data and forecast a linear outcome? 1983 to 2000 is clearly a wave or curvilinear, post-2000 is linear. That is a complete joke of a model. In the financial world that would be prosecuted as fraud.Where are the disclaimers of past performance is no guarantee of future results? We need an SEC type body to oversee this field of Climate Change.comment image

November 19, 2016 9:52 am

Gone on January 21, 2017.

R. Adam Wagner
November 19, 2016 10:43 am

Congress, please enact this one-sentence law: Any and all climate change laws or regulations enacted by the Government of the United States of America shall state how many years the habitability of Earth will be increased by the law/regulation and shall provide scientific proof substantiating the stated increase in habitability.
This will take the onus off climate change deniers and place it on the scientists promoting climate change legislation where it belongs.
It doesn’t take a scientist to know that Earth will only be habitable for a finite period of time. Even the most astute scientist knows that it is foolish to try to make that an infinite time period thru climate change laws.

Roderic Fabian
November 19, 2016 2:07 pm

Telling Trump not to do something is a great way to make sure it gets done.

November 19, 2016 7:42 pm

Dear Gavin,
We won’t interfere with your important work, nor your ability to publish your conclusions.
We won’t pay for it anymore, of course, but we certainly wouldn’t dare interfere.