Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Gavin Schmidt, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, has “warned” President-elect Donald Trump not to interfere with their climate activities. Schmidt maintains the GISS global temperature series, arguably the most adjusted of all the global temperature products.
‘Global warming doesn’t care about the election’: Nasa scientist warns Donald Trump over interference
Senior Nasa scientist suggests he could resign if Donald Trump tries to skew climate change research results.
A senior Nasa scientist has told Donald Trump he is wrong if he thinks climate change is not happening and warned the President-elect that government scientists are “not going to stand” for any interference with their work.
Mr Trump has described global warming as a “hoax” perpetrated by China, vowed to unratify the landmark Paris Agreement and appointed a renowned climate-change denier to a senior environmental position in his transition team.
The science community and environmental campaigners in the US have already begun efforts to persuade Mr Trump that climate change is actually real before he takes office next year.
Dr Gavin Schmidt, the director of Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, signalled they would have allies among the federal science agencies.
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In an interview with The Independent, Dr Schmidt, who was born in London, said: “The point is simple: the climate is changing and you can try to deny it, you can appoint people who don’t care about it into positions of power, but regardless nature has the last vote on this.
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Asked if he would resign if the Trump administration adopted the most extreme form of climate change denial, Dr Schmidt said this was “an interesting question”. It would not cause him to quit “in and of itself”, he said.
“Government science and things generally go on regardless of the political views of the people at the top,” Dr Schmidt said. “The issue would be if you were being asked to skew your results in any way or asked not to talk about your results. Those would be much more serious issues.”
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But he added: “Trump is obviously unique. It’s not just the same as Bush again.”
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President-elect Donald Trump has already stated that he intends to refocus NASA on its original mission of space exploration.
“I will free NASA from the restriction of serving primarily as a logistics agency for low Earth orbit activity… Instead we will refocus its mission on space exploration.”
The needless duplication of climate work between multiple federal agencies has been noted before – in 2015, Lamar Smith (R-Texas), Chairman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, introduced a bill calling on NASA to spend more of their time and effort exploring space.
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Seems to me that with Trump this attitude will almost guarantee the shutdown of the global warming section of the climate division at the least. YEA!
“You’ll have a national Philosopher’s strike on your hands!”
Next, it’s get all the school children to cry out, “Help Mister Gavin! Help Mister Gavin!! AGW is REEEEUUUUHHHHLLLLL”
“I DO believe in fairies!
(youtube — Peter Pan with Mary Martin)
Plan C
Al Gore (groans from the AGWers)
“I’m SUPER cereal”
(youtube — South Park clips — manbearpig)
lolololololol
Janice Moore — Mary Martin was the best Peter Pan ever. Oh, for lost youth. — Eugene WR Gallun
Join the greens and never grow up!
‘Global warming doesn’t care about the election’?
Curious – the election didn’t care about global warming, nor did the voters.
We should start a campaign
“Gavon Schmidt: Not My NASA Director!”
In an interview with The Independent, Dr Schmidt, who was born in London, said: “The point is simple: the climate is changing and you can try to deny it, you can appoint people who don’t care about it into positions of power, but regardless nature has the last vote on this.
Did Gavin just admit that climate change is natural? Seems to me that you could appoint people who care, dont care, believe , dont believe, it doesnt matter, nature has the last say!
Did Gavin just admit that climate change is natural?
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Absolutely!! Great catch.
Hello everyone. My name is George the Fox, and I along with some of my fox friends are in charge of the hen house here at the Old McDonald family farm. We take good care of the chickens here at Old McDonald. I realize you may have heard reports that some of the chickens in the hen house may have been predated on. I can assure you that those reports are false—there is no truth to them whatsoever.
So now you can just move along folks, there is nothing to see here….
Correction: Should have called him Gavin the Fox.
Gavin Schmidt retweeted Michael Mann on the morning after the election:
Climate scientists more vulnerable than ever in new political environment. Consider donating to the @ClimSciDefense: http://climatesciencedefensefunddotorg
If your research is so unbiased and providing a good service to the public, why would you be so worried about defending yourself from political attack?
Hey! I just went out on the end of the pier and took a leak, and …wow!…I caused the tide to come in!!
ROFL 🙂
Dr Schmidt, who was born in London, said: “The point is simple: the climate is changing
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The earth has been warming since the Little Ice Age, long before CO2 could have . No-one has ever shown why the earth cooled during the LIA, or why it warmed after. It is simply assumed to be due to CO2.
The argument that the LIA is regional is a nonsense argument, because the current warming is also regional, being mostly confined to the Norther Hemisphere Arctic regions.
The LIA lowered global average temperatures because it was not offset by warming in other region. The current warming has raised global average temperatures because the warming in the Arctic has not been offset by cooling in other regions.
A large part of the problem is that science has been mislead by the use of averages and anomalies. This has masked the underlying statistics of natural variability, giving a false impression that current temperature deviations are somehow not consistent with past deviations.
In point of fact, there are multiple examples of past natural variability on timescales as short as a single decade far in excess of current warming. As such there is no statistically significant evidence that current warming is anything unusual.
I’m a “government scientist” who directly works on these issues (air quality and climate change NEPA analysis for BLM). I for one welcome some adults in charge for a change. Who know’s, might even see some real science again from these agencies instead of social engineering masquerading as science.
Love to hear more about what its like to work in the bowels of the beast – please consider submitting a story to WUWT.
“Senior Nasa scientist suggests he could resign if Donald Trump tries to skew climate change research results.”
They evidently don’t like competition.
Cut off the funding for GISS. After all the science is settled. We don’t need anymore.
Civil Service rules make it nearly impossible to simply can Schmidt, however it does not impede “reassignment” of him to the North Slope of Alaska or Puerto Rica. That management technique is known as an “executive firing” and would be well-known to Trump.
You can certainly slash public funding for any GISS activities not related to the study of space and use this to help with the $20 trillion debt.
Why should the public fund GISS to maintain REALCLIMATE.ORG, or was Gavin posting exclusively outside of office hours on his free time?
It seems implausible that NASA spent $$ billions developing a scientific way to measure global temperature with satellites. Also, NOAA spent $$ billions designing and building a modern network of USA weather stations to measure CONUS temperature. In addition, NOAA spent $$ billions building and maintains a global balloon temperature measuring system.
NASA and NOAA rarely show the results from these systems in a press release describing temperature changes. Therefore, I suggest that they show all the facts on their reports to the public, such as;
1. The raw temperatures as originally recorded.
2. The adjusted NOAA and GISS temperatures.
3. The Radiosonde temperatures since inception (59 years).
4. The UAH and RSS satellites temperatures (37 years).
5. When showing USA temps, show the USCRN results from inception (~13 years).
The data can be shown in actual or anomalies, as appropriate.
A few skeptical websites show some of these data on one chart indicating the stark difference in measurement techniques. I believe the public should be aware of these differences.
Anomalies skew the data and hide peak to peak real information.
They should collect and record the data including error bars…no adjustments.
Then we would see that the temperature isn’t any worse than it’s been throughout this interglacial.
Gavin Schmidt, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, has “warned” President-elect Donald Trump not to interfere with their climate activities.
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Goddard Institute for Space Studies
their climate activities
So Goddard is getting money to study space, and they are using this money to study climate, using data from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
While it seems that NOAA certainly should be studying climate, why is GISS studying climate? Shouldn’t they be studying space?
It appears to me that NOAA is improperly using the public’s money to engage in activities outside their charter, and should have their climate budget slashed to zero, to help pay off the $20 trillion public debt.
correction:
It appears to me that GISS is improperly using the public’s money to engage in activities outside their charter, and should have their climate budget slashed to zero, to help pay off the $20 trillion public debt
+ 100
I agree.
‘Global warming doesn’t care about the election’: Nasa scientist warn.
‘US voters don’t care about global warming’ Jeff in Calgary warns.
More than you think know that global warming is a scam and a waste of tax payers money. After awhile you notice these guys are divorced from the reality that climate changes very slowly and that there are things that threaten the American way of life, i.e., disappearing jobs, that are occurring a lot faster.
Bill Illis November 17, 2016 at 6:42 am
Hi Nick,
Can you give us a step by step instruction on how to get the GHCN unadjusted and I mean fully raw data.
How’s that coming Nick?? Have you found it yet? It’s so easy – right?
What I find curious is that Bill asked how to get something that you apparently have access to (that he doesn’t) that should be readily available to everyone. That data is being collected on MY tax dime, not that I would know how to interpret it or use it, but others here would. AND isn’t THAT what has been said here and other places before that would solve the problem? Provide everyone easy, free access to the raw, unadjusted data (from ANY source and used as the basis for ANY study) and then have OPEN, on the net, “peer” review. And let the chips (temperatures) fall where they may. It’s been asked here before but I will again – Why should anyone have to file a FOIA request for data collected on the tax payers dime?
Suggestion to President-elect Trump: Day one write an executive order that ALL scientific data collected using tax payer money either directly or via Gov. funded grants, is now available FREE (with instructions on where to find it & how to interpret it) to anyone who wants it.
“What I find curious is that Bill asked how to get something that you apparently have access to (that he doesn’t) that should be readily available to everyone.”
That is absolute nonsense. I responded above (at 8.11am local time) to point to where the data is made available to anyone who bothers to try to find out. If it helps, I keep a list of links on my data page. There have been a lot of posts on it at WUWT. Why such helplessness?
milwaukeebob November 17, 2016 at 10:10 am
Bill Illis November 17, 2016 at 6:42 am
Hi Nick,
Can you give us a step by step instruction on how to get the GHCN unadjusted and I mean fully raw data.
How’s that coming Nick?? Have you found it yet? It’s so easy – right?
You do know that Nick lives in Australia?
In any case he posted a reply.
I did as well:
Phil. November 17, 2016 at 8:56 am
Bill Illis November 17, 2016 at 6:42 am
Hi Nick,
Can you give us a step by step instruction on how to get the GHCN unadjusted and I mean fully raw data.
This would appear to be the link you need:
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/ghcnm/v3.php
I have downloaded and used more climate data that just about anybody.
The GHCN database and the instructions on that page lead absolutely nowhere.
And they certainly do not lead to the raw data.
What comes out is a pile of useless garbage.
It is the modern age and I want to know where the real useable database from the NCDC/NCEI that Nick uses and GISS uses is held at. This is what I was saying about insiders seem to be able to get a hold of different database that is more functional.
This is what it says about the software needs to run this database.
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# This package runs on most versions of Linux or Unix. See below for some of the
# required components. The user should have an intermediate or advanced level
# knowledge of this type of operating system in case their configuration needs work.
#
# Scripts are Bash, Several utilities used are Gawk, Sort, and Make,
# Source Code has been compiled with both gfortran(v4.1.2) and lf95(vL8.10b)
#
# For execution the example requires 400Mb for your-run-directory
# and about 3.6Gb RAM + 3.8Gb Virtual memory
# and an hour for execution at 2.9GHz
# To fully expand the phav52i_results file requires another 400Mb
#
# ——————- Install and Run the Test Package ———————-
#
# The User must be able to create and use two directories:
# your-source-directory – destination of the source codes and the benchmark data
# your-run-directory – destination of “make install”
#
# For instance if:
# your-source-directory is ~/pha_src
# your-run-directory is ~/pha_v52i
# 1) Untar/gunzip the phav52i.tar.gz in your-source-directory
cd ~/pha_src
tar -xzf phav52i.tar.gz
# This will make a subdirectory
# NOTE: Do not untar the testdata/benchmark.tar.gz –
# the next step will do this into your-run-directory
# 2) Install current PHAv52i test:
cd phav52i
make install
# NOTE: You can change the place to install the Project with
# make install INSTALLDIR=~/your-run-directory
# NOTE: If the MAKE errors for any reason, then the test package will not work.
# 3) Execute the test package
cd ~/pha_v52i (or your-run-directory)
nohup ./testv52i-pha.sh world1 tavg raw 0 0 P > runlogs/testv52i-pha.log &
# 4) To check the execution, you may download the data results from our run
# Download the phav52i_results.tar.gz and:
tar -xzf phav52i_results.tar.gz
# This will expand into a ./data-results directory containing our results
# including all of the data files and the output logs
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After you do all that perfectly, you get a pile useless garbage and Nick and Mosher saying you used it wrong.
“And they certainly do not lead to the raw data.”
This gets silly. As I said above, there are many articles at WUWT on GHCN and ERSST. I don’t usually agree with the analysis, but the authors had no trouble downloading the data. It is the raw data that I download and process daily. I keep a log of all datafiles downloaded here. That’s all I use. You just have to gunzip and untar. The R code I use is equivalent to:
require("R.utils") f="http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v3/ghcnm.tavg.latest.qcu.tar.gz" g="tmp.tar.gz" download.file(f,dest=g,mode="wb") gunzip(g,"ghcn.tar",overwrite=T,remove=F); untar("ghcn.tar",exdir=".");That gives a 52 Mb text file – one line per station.year.
There is a facility in the data portal here for getting individual GHCN (annual) station data. Click on GHCN stations, top radio button. You see a long list of 7280 GHCN stations. Choose one, click the radio button, and data (raw and adjusted) will pop up in table or CVS format.
Everyone in every govt agency that has anything to do with agw ought to be getting their resumes up to date.
That could be a large amount of unnecessary effort – far simpler to learn off by heart “would you like fries with that?”
SteveT
Nature has the last vote on the climate, and we are fine with that. No signs that she will do what has been predicted, by the clim-astrologists.
The taxpayers have the last vote on how much climate propaganda we are willing to fund, and spend our precious private time refuting. We voted for your new boss, when he declared his position on the matter. If you think whinning about it will be effective, get a sign and join the rent-a-mob. It may be your true calling is mal-content crybaby. The taxpayers are the ultimate customer’s of your service, and they are not satified with the quality of your work.
I wonder if Gavin as installed a “safe space’ in back of his office to hide from his responsibilities.
Using NASA funds to support a propaganda website (realclimate) doesn’t seem legal to me. Schmidt knows the truth will emerge. That is why he is preparing his exit.
I’ve had my posts, critical of AGW, censored from the website. A website that my tax dollars help pay for.
Maybe I should become a whistle blower. Isn’t it illegal to use public funds to advertise a false emergency in order to get more public funds?
Schmidt should have been fired long ago for blogging on the public dime.
Apparently he was given permission by the head of NASA.
Then they both should be fired. NASA should be sued by citizens in a class action lawsuit.
Obviously all the warmist pols and scientists are desperate, because of Trump and the sun’s lower activity.
It’s not as though inside their thought-bubble they aren’t aware of the sun’s low activity creeping in on their action, at a particularly bad time for them. Under no circumstances would they dare draw any attention to the sun’s temp influence, so they focus exclusively on Trump & CO2, Alinsky-style, to distract the public.
After the election we’ve all heard from all the top warmist politicians, Obama, Gore, Kerry, Moon, et al, and all their sycophants around the world, how we just have to all kowtow to their phony treaty, their Paris ‘agreement’, in order to avoid ( theoretically ) that awful 1.5 degree limit, now down from 2 degrees – as their dramatized sense of urgency needs to be continually updated, hyped & scare-mongered.
In the warmist’s theory, warmer temps mean more extreme events, property damage, etc from more and more powerful tornadoes, hurricanes, and flooding. 2016 came closer than evah to their new T limit, but we saw no such effects from the supposedly record warm temps in 2016. Case closed. They are wrong.
Gavin is behaving politically here. His very telling comments weren’t particularly constructive.
Schmidt’s comments are consistent with the Democrat disruption strategy aimed at overturning the election.
Let’s hope Hillary’s & Soros’ purple color revolution fails to sway enough electors on Dec 19, and Trump has Gavin Schmidt replaced in January.
The warmists are desperate and dangerous. The sun and Trump are ruining their plans, and they didn’t see it coming because they understand nothing about how the climate operates or the people.
The sun causes warming, cooling, and extreme events, not CO2!
Don’t interfer with our interferring. We have the monopoly on interferring.
The biggest threat to ‘climate change’ NOT being eviscerated by Trump is the potential for huge lawsuits from affected industries. Imagine the fallout if it’s proven that government agencies were fraudulently adjusting data, on the back of which entire industries were trashed into oblivion. Would any president admit such liability and see his country face ruinous financial consequences or instead quietly kick the can down the road on his watch?