Tom Barr writes: The BBC is up to its old tricks, using any old snap to support its warmist position.
Apparently desperate to support the Marrakech Alarmist Junket still reeling from the election of Trump; in its “news” (using the term loosely) piece “2016 ‘very likely’ to be world’s warmest year” it originally illustrated its assertion “2016 has seen high temperatures lead to devastating droughts in many parts” with a photograph of numerous dead cattle:
Archived here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161114131317/http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37949877
The trouble is that this picture is Getty Images # 57127741 which was, in reality, was taken over a decade ago on March 16, 2006.
See it at: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/57127741
Perhaps somebody at the BBC has done something for their £4bn a year and pointed out that misleading the public like this, and not giving a fig for the facts, is lazy journalism and is bound to get spotted, for free: The picture and its caption have now magically changed to a Massai lady with a water drum balanced on her head along with the incisive claim “High temperatures can lead to devastating droughts”. Genius reporting.
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The dishonesty and corruption of the misleading liberal media should be considered a crime…IMHO
SNAP – is any MSM outlet taking this climate diatribe seriously?
AD revenue and or politically defined revenue is the issue for MSM.
Cut off the pay-to-play and we’re likely to get learned / properly researched journalism.
The BBC is THE most influential world media outlet, I think you’ll find -trusted for its impartiality
Anthony,
With eyes and ears wide open – now is the best moment in time to post solutions.
After all your commitment – decades – swing the insight!
Where should “WE” go from here is the fun …..
Griff,
The BBC can’t exist without taxation. Thus, they are head in hands survents.
It used to be Griff, it used to be. It’s now nothing more than a rabid leftist propaganda mouthpiece and about as reliable a source of news as the Guardian or Independent. I have recently noticed signs that things might be slowly changing at the BBC though which shouldn’t really be all that surprising since their brand was something highly valuable and once it becomes generally known that it’s as biased as any tabloid rag the golden goose is dead in the water.
Jeremy Clarkson talking about his problems with the BBC. The interesting part starts at about 1:05
Griff – I remember Gavin Scmidt on Radio 4’s P.M. programme proclaiming 2014 the warmest year ever. Eddie Mair was clearly aware that David Rose had already pointed out that there was only a 38% chance that this was true and asked “How confident are you of that?”. Gavin Schmidt hesitated and then replied “We’re pretty confident”. Eddie Mair laughed and said “Ok then” but declined to point out the disingenuous nature of Schmidt’s statement. I’ve been paying for the BBC my whole adult life but, over the last ten years, have come to realise that it’s an institutionally green/liberal organisation and can’t be trusted to be impartial on many issues.
What’s the probability that 2015 was the warmest year ever? 2016? Does a 38% probability simply mean that the signal is swamped by the uncertainty because there has been next to bugger-all warming this millenium? How’s La Nina looking?
Cephus0,
Sorry, your nick reminds me of a bowl cleaning agent.
I’m long in tooth – remembers me of punks dying now – poisoned by passion dying their hair in their own toilet.
The BBC brand is owed by taxation.
Love Doctor Who – never trust BBC news
Sandy,
Clarkson and Monckton would be a “gas” – “dream team”
Griff – “The BBC is THE most influential world media outlet, I think you’ll find -trusted for its impartiality”
You don’t live in the UK, do you. Those of us who have to pay for it know better than you.
Grif is 97% sure that the BBC only lies 97% of the time …. Further it is 97% likely that things are unprecedented and 97% likely that its worse than we thought!!
Mr Green Genes, I thought Griff was being sardonic! Maybe he really does believe that BS he has written. The BBC is a joke, a terrible, terrible joke. I’m 57, English. When I was a boy, we looked to the BBC for independent comment and news. When I got older, I loved their correspondent’s reports from around the world. Then I started to see bias creeping in (probably around 2000-2005). There was some anti-Jewish stuff, some pro-Palestine stuff. And of course, all the climate change nonsense. Now, I NEVER look at the BBC news. The anti-Brexit reporting was the last straw. For an experiment, to show my wife, I went to their search box a few weeks ago and typed in ‘Brexit’. We worked out that 80% of it was anti-brexit (like moaning about Nissan’s warning), and 20% was neutral. NONE of it was pro-Brexit (like pointing out anything to Britain’s benefit). The BBC is truly awful, and it’s an awful shame. It used to be wonderful.
Everybody Griff knows trusts the Beeb. Therefore it is the world’s most trusted government mouthpiece.
Who is this Griff dude? A comedian? No news organisation is impartial. There is always an agenda. Some are just more honest than others and declare up front what they regard as axiomatic.
More likely The BBC is THE most flatuential world media outlet…
Griiff, that must be why they changed the image. 😉
The BBC is run by people who are far from impartial. They no longer simply report the news and increasingly set there own strongly left wing agenda. Listening to the stuff they turn out on their monopolistic news radio coverage is like reading the f…..g Guardian which they always quote on ‘what the papers say’. They increasingly see themselves as the official opposition to the Conservative government in view of the largely anonymous Labour party leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.
Griff. So the BBC is impartial is it? Listen, if Al Beeb told me it was raining, I would still go outside to check. I trust the Beeb as far as I can throw it with two broken arms whilst sitting in a wheelchair.
Hello Griff…fancy seeing you here! The Groan CiF team banned you from commenting or something?
Griff, you missed this sterling example of the BBC impartiality:
“The trouble is that this picture is Getty Images # 57127741 which was, in reality, was taken over a decade ago on March 16, 2006.”
You are as usual pathetic.
For those of you who don’t know who Griff is, he is/was a prolific commenter on all things related to Climate Change at the Groan (the UK’s Guardian).
Griff knew everything about the climate. https://profile.theguardian.com/user/id/4149361
The BBC quotes and promotes the Guardian at every opportunity and still nobody reads it. In coffee shops and store cafes with complimentary newspapers available to read, the one that’s always left in the rack untouched and in pristine condition is the Guardian.
Thanks, Neverready, that explains everything. Nobody reads the Guardian – yes, I know I could stop right here but – to learn anything as it is a knowledge free zone. It would be bankrupt if the BBC didn’t buy 97% of the copies to distribute to the news teams. Nothing makes the broadcasts without Guardian approval. When Cherie the Blair Witch got into trouble using a con man to buy flats there were only two ‘news’ outlets that didn’t think this was news. Guess which two? It was all over everywhere else.
The OZ ABC has also repeated the claim , its freezing where I live in northeast Victoria so where is this hottest evah ?
“Based upon this chart, it would require strong cooling for the next two months to avoid 2016 being a new record-warm year (since the satellite record began in 1979) in the UAH dataset.” Roy Spencer
El Niño years tend to have warmer temps. Nothing new here. Nor is it related to CO2 or anything else humans do. See No Tricks Zone on the 14th., and on the 10th about cooling.
It has been warmer than usual where I live (central Washington State), but cooling starts Wednesday. It’s been cold in other parts of the world; north central Europe, for one. Just weather.
The license fee is a crime! They take money from you with menaces and deliver very little in return.
“They take money from you with menaces and deliver very little in return.”
Not from me, they don’t. I don’t have a TV and don’t use iPlayer. When they asked why I refused to pay, I pointed out that the money was being used to broadcast propaganda. Which, I did not want to be a part of.
The nice thing about the net is making it rather more difficult to lie.
I see no sign of that!
Its a web of lies!
Having sat through the Nine O’Clock news for over three years, I guess you haven’t been paying attention.
Or are you a Beeb Troll?
Griff, Re your BBC comment above you missed off the sarc tag
To which the BBC is a MAJOR contributor
So says the one of the biggest liars on this site.
Mark, it’s not clear that Griff knows enough to lie.
It’s not allowed on the internet if it’s not true!
Media Matters corrects everything in real time as you submit your posts, and before anyone reads it. Of course, for you leftists, they correct YOUR thoughts right there in your brains before you even begin to type.
Hi Griff!
No , it has obviously had zero affect on stopping your lies.
Griff, the perpetual LIAR !.
Griffypoo leaves lies and falsehoods everywhere he comments.
To Griffypoo, every day is opposite day, where he contradicts all statements of fact or truth.
http://digitalnomad.nationalgeographic.com/files/2015/09/kenyas-chyulu-hills-kilimanjaro-590-590×443.jpg
Is that near latitude zero, Latitude?
What is the snow-capped mountain? Is it Kilimanjaro? It used to be claimed that the glacier and the snowfields on Kilimanjaro are declining because of global warming. I think it is now generally agreed that the decline is indeed at least partly caused by man made climate change – but the change in question is local, not global. Precipitation on Kilimanjaro has declined because many of the trees that formerly covered the low land around the mountain have been cut down, creating a more arid local climate.
The lies are just getting silly. It’s like something out of Monty Python.
Eugene WR Gallun
Except Monty Python was fiction and unfortunately, this stuff is put forth as fact.
Not much of a cheese shop then, is it? 🙂
jimmaine — more like a dead parrot skit — Eugene WR Gallun
More like a takeoff on The Life of Brian, the aqueduct scene.
Green zealots sitting in agitprop meeting dressed in hemp togs: Leader, “What have fossil fuels ever done for us!?” Meek voice from the back, “Well, there’s the clean piped-in water.” And so it goes. …
That’s right up there with the usual images of white “pollution smoke” (i.e. condensate) being emitted from some industrial facility we see with so many green articles.
And yet even the BBC had to report the “Rise in CO2 has ‘greened Planet Earth'”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36130346
Now why couldn’t they have used an image portraying that instead?
Haven’t you heard? CAGW can reach back in time!
/snark
Now that’s what I call a tele-connection.
CAGW can reach back in time!
===============
Every year the past gets colder and colder, according to government funded scientists at NASA/GISS. only a massive carbon tax can stop this process, which threatens to irreparably harm people today by killing off their parents before they were even born. the past has now become so cold that it is unlikely anyone alive even a few hundred years ago could survive to this day.
I’m not sure how many people born 100 years have survived till today, even without the past getting colder.
The net may save our lives in more ways than one. It probably saved this last election for the good guys of the world. 🙂
Dead right. Oh, this one is for Griff – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql4YDKaKqVA
A person becomes a liberal (er, now “progressive”) when truth itself becomes malleable an plastic. Truth thus become “truth” that only exists to advance a higher agenda of advancing the post-modern Secular Utopia. In the case of this photograph, it is vividly re-imagined to portray a current danger in the context of climate that humans can somehow mitigate.
Likely to be 0.05 degrees hotter +/- 5 degrees.
Not to be out done – or ‘under done’? – the Grauniad comes with the following statement
Last month was only just over the previous record, coming in at a razor-thin 0.004C above the previous high for the time of year, reached in September 2014.
Stunning piece of equipment that has that kind of accuracy……
I watched the BBC News reports this afternoon with the 2 “experts” – one from that illustrious seat of scientific eminence and integrity: the UEA Clime Change Ministry of Truth!
She babbled on about the highest average temperature since records began, somewhere in the 1850’s. That was enough to make me fall over in laughing. In the 1850’s, and up to well into the mid/late 20th Century, all around the world, there were nothing like the present number of temperature recordings, the distribution of actual weather stations was very concentrated, largely in western Europe, there was no standard method of measurement or instrument location/enclosure, no agreed weighting adjustment factors for location, land/sea/altitude etc etc were available, heat island “adjustments” were not even thought about, and the accuracy and reliability of measurements taken had no universal standards. All this makes any forecast or trending of annual temperature increases of the 0.15 degree centrigrade per decade target set for a 2 degree temperature rise by 2100 totally fraudulent and massively discredited. It also fully identifies that the $trillions of consumers’ and taxpayers’ money already spent, allocated or planned a grotesque waste of unaffordable money for the whole world. Even then these green zeolots of the true religion and faiths still need to provide even a scientific basis and evidence of a CO2 rise/temperature rise correlation, let alone a causal link, or splitting and separating out the effects of natural and man-made CO2 emissions, or scientifically and consistently allowing for other man-made inputs which have generated CO2 increases such as de-forestration and massive waste heat from the massive increase in power and energy production other than fossil fuels including waste heat from all electrical appliances, and even the temperature increases from the 1950’s onwards generated by the western reductions in solar gloom due to the Clean Air Acts and Anti-Acid Rain massively reducing particulate carbon and sulphates and other aerosol gases – etc. etc. etc.
We all must feel like poor Galileo before the Inquisition: knowing full well that scientific observations and evidence fully identifies that, contrary to scripture, the Earth orbits the Sun and not vice versa, and yet the powers that be simply sit back and repudiate any such proof and depend simply on some long established conformity, ideology and Act of Faith!
The other interesting thing about the BBC article and the WMO “news” is why the WMO pick the years 1961 to 1990 as their baseline comparator as in “The whole of 2015, which broke the previous record by a significant amount, was 0.77 above the 1961-90 average”. Could it have something to do with the fact the period from the 1940’s to the mid 1970’s was of course a cold period (as the German 6th army found out to their cost) which led the proliferation of books and articles in the 1970’s about the impending ice age: see for example http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html. To those that deny that happened I can tell you I studied meterology in an evening class in 1980 and we were all told to read Nigel Calder’s The Weather Machine and the Threat of Ice: see https://www.amazon.co.uk/Weather-Machine-Threat-Ice/dp/0563126469/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479143937&sr=8-1&keywords=weather+machine+calder
Of course if the WMO/Al Gore were right about the general direction of global warming (and its cause), their cause would have been better evidenced by picking say 1910 to 1940 as their baseline comparator.
You can fool some of the people all of the time. We call those people ….fools.
It is pretty obvious that the CBC (Canadian Broadcorping Castration) has quotas for certain topics. They actually have someone whose job is to promote LGBTQ issues. He was interviewed on-air so we know that he exists.
The result is that, on all programs, global warming and LGBTQ are mentioned even if that’s not what the program is about. For instance, the host will take any excuse to mention that she is aboriginal and has a female partner.
It’s obvious and disgusting.
What is more disgusting is the fact that none of the political parties do anything about it. Both here in Canada and in other countries.
PBS in the US is very much the same as far as politics. The Republicans have occaisonally threated to defund it, but always failed.
Just yesterday on CBC radio:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/president-elect-trump-the-truth-class-letters-media-and-foreign-policy-1.3847616/dear-president-elect-climate-change-is-not-a-hoax-and-we-re-all-in-this-together-1.3848332
PBS is not totally funded by the government. They’re supported largely by private interests.
It is likely to be a slightly higher GMT in 2016, that’s what El Ninos do.
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2016/11/05/el-ninos-hottest-year/
These debunks are still nice but not really necessary anymore, because the left and the media lost all credibility during the election, and they won’t get it back. Climategate just wasn’t a big enough attention grabbing topic I guess, it took a whopper like a presidentical election to wake everyone up to the lies. The left and media are as dead as a 10 point buck just shot through the boilerroom, the may run a bit but they are dead they just don’t know it yet.
“These debunks are still nice but not really necessary anymore, because the left and the media lost all credibility during the election, and they won’t get it back.”
Oh, if only that were true. If anything, the left & the media have become embolden to get “the truth out”. It’s almost as though they believe the problem is that they weren’t loud enough.
“Global Warming” changed to “Climate Change” in order for the “scientific research” financed mostly by tax money to continue thriving. The Climate always changes so how they could go wrong!? We had a mini ice age and then we warmed up. Now we have variations of climate that are naturally occurring and have nothing to do with human activity.
er… no
The change in terminology was promoted by a Republican govt advisor to make the issue seem less threatening
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/04/28/fox_news_global_warming_versus_climate_change.html
Seriously? A partisan blog is your “proof”?
You really, really don’t understand the point do you?
Not just a partisan rag, but a hack like Phil Plait, who actually describes himself as a ‘Climate Evangelist’ and literally makes a living giving speeches promoting it.
No wonder Grift cites him. Kindred souls.
stale.com insults?
That is your facts, griffypoo? Crapola from an elitist crapist; who is known for writing contradicting articles within weeks of each other?
Well, no wonder you worship bbc and grauniad. Short circuits between the ears with endless echoes of the sparks.
The picture has been replaced, but has the “journalist” been replaced?
Ha! All this talk of the BBC and “sacking” reminds me of the opening credits to Monty Python’s Holy Grail.
The BBC broadcast on the news this morning that the growth in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has all but plateaued. That is eerie less than a week after the US election. I just have this horrid suspicion (I have no evidence) that selective reporting of CO2 concentration may be a way of putting climate change into cold storage until the next US election (or the one after that, or the one after the one after that…). You can see the headlines a week after a Democrat victory “CO2 on the rise again – time for more climate action”
Or it might be because various climate groups are making announcements to coincide with the Marakesh conference.
Spooky how the Us arranged the election to distract from that 🙂
Or they are building for a strike against Trump Policies by placing forth the IDEA that CO2 WAS Plateauing prior to his inaguration then informing the public that His policies are again driving up CO2. A short lie to back the “PROOF” behind the Great Lie
Spooky griffypoo?
The USA has a very long term schedule of elections every four years, on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November. Oh, for a hundred and seventy one years.
Spooky?
Yes, given your vast echo chamber of wrong knowledge, where even the shadows echo.
I think the story is actually that CO2 emissions are believed to have plateaued for the third year in a row. Atmospheric CO2, on the other hand, continues to grow, albeit at a lower rate than ealier in the year now that the effects of El Nino are wearing off.
Nope, the next story will be that climate change has been slowed because of the heroic efforts of the sandal wearing, tofu chomping liberal lefties.
All they have to do is fiddle a bit of data and eh voila! The AGW disease is averted.
Then, when they get the sandal wearers back in power, they’ll just resurrect it by claiming the damage done by the evil Trump empire is only now beginning to manifest itself……once again!
Fiddled data, yada yada yada and were back at square one.
These people are serious AGW religious fanatics, they will never go away.
“The BBC broadcast on the news this morning that the growth in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has all but plateaued. That is eerie less than a week after the US election.”
Certain politicians… finally stopped talking?
I’ve just made a complaint to the BBC regarding one of their ‘hottest years eva’ stories where the nice lady from the University of East Anglia had taken time away from her poolside bar in Marrakesh to inform us all of how greater levels of CO2 were causing the hottest year since records began and El Nino had nothing really to do with it. The BBC then showed pictures of a smog blighted far eastern city (in China I guess?) and people wearing face masks to protect from from…… the CO2? My complaint focused on their misrepresentation of the issue by their images but also of their bias of having no-one to challenge the view. The woman from UEA even had the cheek to claim that President elect Trump would probably see the sense of many of the business opportunities presented by the renewable energy industry without mentioning that he has made it clear he sees the whole AGW issue as total c**p.
After numerous similar email complaints to the BBC – only to receive their bog standard “we offer a fair and impartial…..etc etc” – I decided the only thing they would properly understand was the removal of my licence fee money and promptly cancelled such.
I urge others to ‘vote’ the same way.
Yep, we have, too. Just bought an Amazon FireStick…absolutely brilliant!
I would be careful, but I support your action as an ex-UK TV tax payer, some ~200,000 people are convicted every year for non-payment, and of those some ~1000 go to prison for repeat non-payment offences. CRAZY!
Nothing makes me more mad than the claims that going Green are a good economic opportunity. There is nothing more wrong than that claim, usually “backed up” by figures for jobs. It is simply turning economics upside down. Jobs are a cost, not a benefit.
“That is eerie less than a week after the US election.”
http://s16.postimg.org/b00ljn9rp/trump_hair_MYSTERIOUS_POWERS.png
O.T……But a very good clue to the next four years of President Trump….
“Trump nixes presidential salary” ..Fox News
Trump said he didn’t even know what the salary was, before CBS’ Lesley Stahl told him.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/14/trump-nixes-presidential-salary-may-spend-time-in-new-york-florida.html
Missed a good deed and a great PR opportunity there in my view. He could have had that paid into a veterans charity.
Or just reduce the deficit by the same amount.
On the plus side, Trump will take a tax deduction of his non-salary as a business expense and use federal fund to put a huge eliminated “Trump” sign on top of the White House. He will use the taxpayer funds to upgrade the White House as a rolling tax deduction for two generations of Trumps.
Just because Trump is better than Hillary, do not mistake that to mean that he is above reproach.
Lorcanbonda – if you had ever paid taxes you would know you don’t get a deduction for income you don’t receive. There is simply no income to be taxed. And no one can take deductions for taxpayer funded upgrades for anything.
If you can’t come up with an actual abuse of the taxpayer wrt Trump’s turning down his salary, then afa you know, he is above reproach.
Jtom — are you serious? Of course I paid taxes. And I know that you are not supposed to deduct income that you don’t receive.
Either way — whether you like Trump or not, his tax situation is pretty dodgy. He lives like a billionaire, but pays taxes like a pauper.
lorcanbonda:
1. One may carry losses in a given year forward to offset losses in future years.
2. Trump pays taxes like a billionaire. Paupers pay no taxes.
Ignorance is no excuse.
offset gains
David — no kidding. You get the “Captain Obvious” award.
That has nothing to do with what I wrote. Trump has taken billions out of his corporations while declaring losses for tax purposes. Are you saying that there isn’t anything dodgy about that? Doesn’t it bother you that Trump is living like a billionaire while paying less taxes than you?
What is eerie, will be the absence of USA participants at Marrakesh; they know it will be their last party with their climate tools.
..It has become a very sad state of affairs when the only place to find honest reporting on the things that matter is from websites and their contributors like WUWT and Breitbart ….MSM is dead in the water for rational people….
The BBC can’t help themselves. Question on Radio 4 ‘Round Britain Quiz’ this afternoon based on ‘Obamacare’ (I’m not making this up!). They have been campaigning against Brexit since 24th June. Their reaction to the news of Mr Trump’s election has been extremely entertaining. Radio 4 is for the bien pensant Guardian reading classes, ‘Round Britain Quiz’ is a niche programme even for Radio 4 with teams of regional eggheads (Midlands v Northern Ireland today).
Fraud spotting is the new sport. This is why Americans are wary of NPR and other public bias.
Estimated temps-
“Because the data with respect to in-situ surface air temperature across Africa is sparse, a one year regional assessment for Africa could not be based on any of the three standard global surface air temperature data sets from NOAA NCDC, NASA-GISS or HadCRUT4 Instead, the combination of the Global Historical Climatology
Network and the Climate Anomaly Monitoring System (CAMS GHCN) by NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory was used to estimate surface air temperature patterns”
…Sooo, in other words, they just made it up….again ?
Yes, but the important point was the headlines in today’s BBC news…
2016 will without doubt be the warmest year ever, warmer than 2015, El Nino only made a minor contribution to that and 16 of the warmest years have been this century.
A straight and accurate and factual report, backed by quotes from leading scientists about the need for climate action.
So never mind Trump: the real story is still going out… and Trump looks foolish for his denialist position.
..Sorry Griffy, but YOU are the denialist of reality…
Griif you missed mentioning that in the pacific the sls was an incredible 30 mm higher , see even you cherry pick.
Sorry not sls , should have been SLR and Griff of course
At “best” it could only be the warmest year in the last 200, that’s statistically nothing. The Earth has endured millions upon millions years where the temperature was far warmer.
Griff: The dyslexic lyer. Go and read the BBC website again. Clue:
I think with lying like that, Griff almost certainly works for the BBC. It is, after all, a huge employer, and everyone in Britain knows someone who works for the BBC, so the odds are good that someone on here works for the BBC…and my money is on Griff. If it looks like a liar, and sounds like a liar, it probably works for the BBC.
The huge spike caused by the El Nino, that even as we speak is disappearing had no impact on the year’s average temperature.
What is it about Griff and his willingness to shred whatever credibility he may have left in order to pass on even the most absurd of lies?
Wow! Griff,is back with more misleading crap.
The superior Satellite temperature data was not mentioned in the article at all. It warmed ONLY when El-Nino showed up in late 2015,with the Blob already in place in the Northern Pacific early in 2015. Now that El-Nino and Blog go away, it stopped warming, imagine that!
You are a bald faced liar!
Griffie, temperatures bouncing along a plateau for almost 20 years is not a reason for “climate action.”
As usual Griff, shows his ignorance about what causes warming trends:
Since 1982, Temperature Records Show No Warming Other Than That Due To Natural El Niño Warmth-Inducing Events
http://notrickszone.com/2016/11/14/since-1982-temperature-records-show-no-warming-other-than-that-due-to-natural-el-nino-warmth-inducing-events/#sthash.KRMsWwny.dpbs
Griff,
Didn’t you get the memo?
You’re fired!
Really?
I hope you’ll forward a generous redundancy settlement?
In fact I think you’ll find that the ‘hottest year’ and ‘record low sea ice’ reporting is what is the actual, factual mainstream reporting for the next few days.
and climate fact won’t go away during a Trump administration.
Trump’s govt is going to be hard put to explain away the facts over next 4 years.
How exactly does anybody know what contribution was made by the El Nino?
You simply skate over the actual, real problem – claiming knowledge where not only there isn’t any, but there cannot be any.